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I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.

sometimes it is fun to cheat, as long as you are not harming anyone I don't see any problem with that. like when you are playing a friendly card game at home with a bunch of people you know, it may not even be for money ;D
I have never done it but I have to admit I have thought about doing it.

but when it is fixing games and stuff like that which can harm others and also when it can be considered thievery, then that is it right at all.

I have never cheated but it is very difficult to cheat if you play in big online or even land-based casinos. I remember doing it as home as @Pursuer says, when I was a kid and was no money involved, but for the sake of winning.

I can understand people up to a point if they try to cheat for huge sums of money. Money drive people crazy.

Ethics matter everywhere, you aren't ethical if you just pick and choose the circumstances where you decide to be ethical or not.
You are either practice good morals or you do not, there's no in-between, at least not according to me.

The same with gambling, for me it would not be okay to cheat, whether you're playing with friends or at a big casino.

Now I do see a gray area if you're just using skill to get an extra edge in the game.
Counting cards in blackjack is an example.

I don't see any good things that I can keep from cheating unless the winnings that I am getting, still if you have that winnings, it is like you rob them and not really won them since you are cheating them, right? I am gambling because I am hoping to win some big cash that I don't really get in a short time in my job though I am also having fun gambling since I don't really want to keep myself used in betting and always losing since that will really make me pissed. Before that happens, I will stop myself.

Never managed to cheat an online game nah!

The security is too damn high normally. But I thought about a rather simple way to cheat on poker:
You enter a table of 8 with 7 accounts in total. The last seat will be taken by someone else.

Then it means you have 7 hands as information while your opponent has only one hand of information.
I don't know how it could work but that means you would have 7 times more information than your opponent!

Well, you are not far away from truth.

In online poker it is hard to prove anything, and you could end up on table playing against group of friends which can lead only to your loss.

While I was playing cash games in the past, I noticed at some poker sites strange behavior on certain tables, for example 5 players are sitting off and as soon as someone join table they all become active, and you can't play poker against whole table.

It is not that they want to win but the main problem is their EGO which is why they tempered the ball to win the game. When the EGO comes in game you can expect any illegal way of winning it. That is why it is told that play fairly and dont let EGO over come you.

In online gambling it is hard to cheat only the site developer can cheat as they have control over the site program.

That was cool and I don’t consider it as cheating. That is using your brain when it is required. If you have the opportunity to take seven seats, your opponent has also the same chance. But he does not look at things the way you do. Everything is fair in this game. It is pointless to care about ethics in an unethical game. Yes, gambling is definitely not appreciated in any part of the world. A gambler should only aim at winning the game to save himself from loss.

This is a quite bad attitude from the reputed team captain. You need to win the game by cheating.

I gamble very less only sometimes sports betting and play short while a dice game but never think about cheating to win. Also, I gamble for just for fun not so desperate to make money from these games so never think about to cheat the person or a system win my bet.

I honestly cheated many times but it with friends or family members. lol. We all just having fun and the money I won, I will simply buy food like pizza for everyone. But as far as in landbase casino's or if I'm playing with others, no. I'm afraid that I will be caught and you will that you will end up something you will not like.

Yeah, there's some unwritten code for us gamblers not to cheat because you don't want to be cheated as well.

Edit: I remember a group of people who always cheated, they are like a syndicate. They would target rich folks, but one day we all arose from a group of police raiding one house. Well, its those criminals who cheated someone, however, he has some kind of connections to the police that's why the group was busted and we don't know what happened to them up to this day.

The cricket game is totally a different scenario, which I totally believe is highly unethical. However, in gambling, forget ethics bro, even the casino owners, both online and offline cheat, so if you have the chance to get back at them and get away with it, good for you.

Moreover, not like one can easily achieve such aim anyway, looking at how these places or platforms are fashioned to always be in the favor of the house edge. Nevertheless, I do not see anything related to ethics in gambling; since you are being robbed most of the time and you gladly allow yourself to get robbed ;D. So, if you have a chance to gain all that you have lost back and be smart about it, hmm... ethics can go perch for the mean time.

Jokes apart now! In general though, being ethical pays 100% of the time and if you cannot imbibe an ethical culture in little things, no matter how tempting cheating can be, then you can end up embarrassing yourself for an action that was not worth it.

To me ethic remains important even we are in the world of gambling. By maintaining ethics, I hope others will treat me in the same way including casino owners. If I feel that I get unfair treatment, of course I will not go back to that place again. Even for example I am able to cheat the game, I will tell the bug to the site owner instead of exploited it for my own advantage.

Don't ever cheat because if you do this thing, its a sign that money controls your life.
That's greed and it can really ruin your reputation, better to just play the game win or lose at least you are happy that's what gambling is.
I've never cheat and have no plan to do it, well you might got caught and be in prison for good so be careful.

I've never heard about the news about Captain Smith until now. I haven't cheated in gambling, only did it in video games. I agree with btcdevil we have provably fair in online gambling it's hard to rig the outcome of any gambling game just to win there are a couple of users who pulled it off (hufflepuff) but now it's unlikely to happen again and huge withdrawals are always processed manually so if someone wins big they'll always check the user's activity.


There would always be a certain person that would cheat in gambling because money is involved.

Well since the question is highly subjective, the answer is expectedly varying.

As for me, I am always guided by my principles no matter where life takes me. Hence, gambling or not, the principles I have learned all throughout are always taken into consideration before I even embark onto something. So it is a YES. Yes, ethics count in winning/gambling because were it not ethical on your standpoint, you would not have gambled in the first place. You must have believed in it because you decided to pursue it, right?

You can cheat as long as you not get detect means that you have done it in good place with a good time.
It's very rare to see it happen , yes indeed ! because every match always make a better improvement for fair game

~ethics is everything !

IMO the essence of winning is defeated when you cheat. Who are you truly fooling when you cheat? Aren't we just fooling ourselves. It may give you a sense of satisfaction because you may have thought that you have fooled all the other people by winning through the means of cheating but really you're only just cheating yourself. Sadly, many still cheat even in gambling. There are some rigs that can be put so that one may easily win the game.

in fact ethics is very important, even if in gambling or whatever to get the honor of each person it is for me very pleasant with good ethics can establish good relationship every gambling, cheat is not good tips but it stupid can not think with his own head no matter what's the risk, it's just looking for victory, even if it does not hurt others, I hope with good ethics can get a pure victory.

I don't think we can relate cheating in sports to cheating in gambling. In sports the player can be the one cheating or be bribed at to intentionally lose the game, but in gambling cheating is a harder thing to do as the casino or the site always have the edge. Cheating here sometimes involves a lot of people or lookouts for the cards or if it is a machine then you need some kind of program to hack into their system. Not to mention that cheating inside a casino is considered as a crime compared to cheating in a sport which will only result into fines and penalties, or a permanent ban as its worst penalty.

All things that have been attained thru cheating isnt really right at all. Even you do make money but deep inside your conscience will really put you in stress.I have already experience or have the chance to cheat but i didnt want to do such thing because i do really like to play on a fair way but we cant really remove for those people who are doing all cost just to make money without minding other players too and wouldnt know on the word ethics.

Sometimes in online gambling, I have always wished I could. Honestly, unless we want to lie to ourselves, these online gambling sites cheat with their acclaimed provably fair platform because I wonder I would ever end up having 23 streaks of losses on a normal day if the house edge did not just program it for me to lose. So in this case, for an online casino, it would be more like a revenge tactics. Nonetheless, it is not even possible.

As much as I would have loved to say screw ethics, I would just be on the neutral side. Ethics is very good, do not get me wrong, and what Captain Smith did was highly unethical, but most times in gambling, with the way house edge have always dealt with us, I am sure almost everyone, most especially in online gambling, would have tried as much as possible to find out how they can cheat the house edge. I have been there, but at the end, they are always one step ahead anyway.

Winning is important but cheating your way to winning makes your winning less valuable. Not all gamblers are ethical though, ethics has more to do with someone personality, nothing else. I always try to keep my integrity and ethics in every activity, from competition to even gambling.

To have a possibility to cheat in on-line gambling you have to be a top notch hacker in the first place and I'm not the one so I've never contemplated the idea. Hopefully you don't consider bluffing in poker to be cheating because that's what I do all the time. :)

Actually I'm glad that there come times when it doesn't matter whether you want to cheat or you don't, you just can't do that because of the architecture and algorithms of the game. Bitcoin is a good example of that.

I think ethics is very important and needed in gambling, but most of the  people dont care about the ethics when come to the money problem, people willing to do everything to get the money, for me winning with honest makes me proud, and if you asked me to gamble with cheating, I will refuse becauae I am afraid to get caught and embarrassed to be known as cheater

Gambling is based on luck and luck only , speculations might be a bit helpful but it's up to the luck for at least 90% to decide whether if we loose or don't .
As for manipulated results , who knows ? Maybe luck will turn things around and maybe you got the opposite of what'll happen from your source ? There is no cheating when the possible outcome is not fully controllable .
I did once bet on a manipulated game but i didn't really place a lot of money on that bet since i didn't think such things existed , yet it happened (i'm still not sure it was really manipulated or it was luck ).
Gamblers certainly have no code ,but anyone gambling is doing it for a sole purpose which is getting profits . Some games/casinos are already cheating and manipulating the machines for their favor's , so why not make some dirty moves ourselves ?
And it won't even be eye for an eye compared to what the exorbitant amounts of money they are stealing out of gamblers's pockets ..

Good point, there's difference between the actual players who deal with game fixing to cheat and allow the game to lose from the system or some sort
of dishonest activity inside the casino house, both is unethical but we can't deny the fact that most of the gamblers who really engaged with this activity
are really doing everything just to earn money, to the point that they will try every resources even try to cheat just to win.

Cheating is a cheating whether it is done in gambling or sports or in any other places. Punishments may be different because of the rules but the intention is same they want to win so they are cheating. Those players cheated the whole country because of their unethical behaviour.

No I wasn't actually, thanks for alerting though. Just read up on it. I'm not much of a sportsperson myself, though I played football/street football every day for many, many years (til I got old heh heh) and nothing got to me more than cheaters... divers, those unsportsmanlike fouls. I never learnt how to even roll on the ground if I fell, instinctively my mind was just on the ball and on the game. Match fixing is on another level, since that's greed and not a "winning at all cost" strategy.

I have hussled plenty though when gambling cards! My favourite is to play at the same table with an "assistant" who helps me look at my cards and "advises" and "accidentally giving me away". Always among friends, and always for the banter, but sometimes getting the desired result. I'm not sure that qualifies as cheating, especially when playing poker and they all know I do that.

There's always a code with gamblers. Murky as mud, blurry as hell. But there's definitely a code.

Reading the news about the cricketers sends a message and that is if you must win, win according to the rules. They have just successfully ended their careers because of their greed. In societies where there are rules and high ethical values, you are allowed to break the rule, but when caught, the hammer will hit very hard which has happened to those individuals.

For us the gamblers, I think ethics should be about those making the platforms available. For someone like me who is only interested in soccer form of gambling, I don't know any ethics I have to comply with than to place my bet and wait. But for the gambling site that are quick to devise several means to rip me off should be the one sticking to ethical codes.

Ethics always matters i wouldn't make any move just for the sake of earning more money because this would show that how narrow minded i am and what all i could just for earning that little extra funds , what they did was really bad instead they could have practiced more and improve their performance as cheating is never a solution to problems

In my opinion, cheating is fun because you manage to outsmart your opponent without him realizing. However, sometimes, it is sad to cheat against an opponent who is trying his best to win and having fun on the game. I really find it bad to cheat and perhaps that is related to my ethical background. I cheat when it depends on the opponent. If he is a good guy, I will not. If he is malicious, I will try to outsmart him.

We should be fair in everything even in gambling, ethics will reflect our identity, tho there are really bastards that don't even know what their doing so dont try to follow them at least have the guts to be smart enough to do what is right.

As of my understanding, ethics applied in gambling is how you play by the rules with a positive attitude or manner and I think it is admirable that someone plays with ethics. Cheating is not much of an issue in gambling and I think it adds up the fun and makes you feel the game and I do not see anything wrong about cheating some time. I think let us just view ethics as being a sport if someone or you happen to lose in a game, you still play by the rules and never start a fight when losing.

I never think of cheating my way to win in gambling.  I always believe that playing fair is a must for a player. This may not count as a winning when it comes to money, but the feeling of assurance that there will be no problem if the time comes we have to withdraw a huge amount of money if we hit a huge price.  Unlike, if we cheat and win, there will be lots of what if and we troubled ourselves instead of enjoying the winnings.

When it comes to gamblng cheating is not fun and it is not harmless as you say it is. It maybe fun for you but it is unfair for your opponents and i am sure if it happens to you you will not like it as well. Anything that we dont like done to us is not fun.

I am not a sportsman, not by a long shot. I am a recreational gambler who bets for fun. Gambling is like a hobby to me with the added perk of winning some cash here and there. However, there are very competitive people out there, professional athletes and even amateurs and hobbyists, for whom winning is everything. Would you, for example, bet on a fixed match knowing you are going to defraud the sportsbook? Or your ethics and conscience wouldn't let you do it? Surely, free money could be a very strong factor for persuasion. Winning + winning money at that is a very strong combination.

Insider knowledge that the game is rigged is probably hard to acquire and you'll likely spend a lot of money to get it or make it happen, so probably it is just a business decision for some and ethically wrong for many. I would say that it would be hard for anyone to do this, there would be little chances that a lot of people will be in on the scheme. Though if I had the chance, I would avoid the game probably.

I never cheat on any gambling games, but sometimes I used the only strategy and I think it's not cheating. I think even if I cheat, my chances to win the games is the same, I will only get lost the money. so whenever I play the games, cheat or not cheat, the result is the most time in the games, I only get lost. but I don't think that if we cheat the games, we can win the games. maybe it will work for one or two times but the next, I am sure that the owner will know.

When it comes to sport its basically about win or lose, and these sports men and women will do anything to make this happen for financial benefits or pride but the sad part about sports is not everyone is doing an honest job and that's why punishments have put should should anyone break the rules, Thats why personal discipline and good sportsmanship is needed to uphold good sports ethics.

OP explained a situation in sport event, and it`s not ethical what that sportsman did. He sold his team, fans for some money.Ethic is everything we do, this sportsman decided to put money over dignity and that is not ethical. You can apply ethic in every action we make, we can gamble in fair way or to cheat, we can be good or bad people. If you lose you can handle loss with proper manners or you can start to curse and make  threats, its not ethical. Basically ethical or unethical depends from person to person, some are some not, I think I`m fair in everything I do, when I win and when I lose in gambling and other aspects of life.

Firstly everyone aim is to make money not win or lose so they will do anything to make money but most of the people won't do shady activities of it comes to games between nations but still some people so.

By the way what he did? is he fixed the match to win or lose?

Apparently, using your skills to give yourself an advantage is not cheating, it is just part of the game. In as much as a lot of us even wish we could cheat in gambling, this is something that is not possible since there are monitoring spirits (that is what I call them anyway) everywhere looking for a scapegoat and in that case, I would rather just respect myself.

In the real life sense, it is appalling to cheat when you know in that case, you are hurting the person, I always just prefer life to take its cause.

Everyone mostly plays to make money and this is the reason they get addicted or play for so long that they keep losing money and thus casinos keep making money and due to which today we can see that they still exists because they are running in profits.

People who are in loss may do some wrong things to make up their losses.

With how things happen this one is a good example of unethical way just to earned a quick money inside gambling, he did things like this
just to received his rewards, they been paid to play and do their obligations for their respected teams but he did the other way around to
earn for its personal benefit.

Never in my life I cheated in gambling ,I want to play fair and square. I hate cheaters and I don't like to play with that kind of people, in my place we already knew who have that kind of atittude so we avoid our selves to play with that person and they will always be rejected.

It's very difficult to cheat in online gambling, but in real life, in casinos, it's possible. I think if the stakes were high enough I might get tempted to try cheating. Before you condemn me think about it for a second.
You are sitting next to someone at the table and see that he's not covering his cards well enough so that you're able to peek. Would you tell him, or try to ignore what you see? Or maybe you'd play along and call it luck? If it was a game with friends I'd tell him, but if those were strangers playing for money, i'd take advantage.

Same here, I don't like cheaters at all. Playing fair games is my favorite thing. About cheaters, I think people who manipulate Live game results. I think sometimes in any place in the world, there are some players which they play football or some sport activities, they can manipulate the games and choose the right bet, so then, they can earn a huge amount of that, It's something shameful indeed.

There is not really a point to cheat when you gamble, because no matter what you do you will always get a bad outcome, if you win you will get more money that is true but you will always know that you won because you cheated, and if at some point someone discovers that you have been cheating you will get in a lot of trouble you could even end up in jail.

Being a footballer for years will never give you the same fun in any other activity of the world because football is life, not just a game. In front of this, gambling is a way too low but as you have got old, it is not that much easy to continue street football. Forme, gambling is just a useless game, it won’t give anything valuable. I also think that mostly gambler are seeking money because there is actually no fun is sitting at a chair and waiting for random outcome.

I'm so proud to be part of this community who has decided to never cheat in gambling while I can't quote each and every post I liked, I'm really happy that each and everyone was ready to loose than cheat. They may call us by whatever names they want, tell us we're messing our lives, but they can't call us cheaters. Though occasionally you see people come here and complain they were cheated or sell fake scripts these are the few rotten apples that shall be chucked out of the system as I feel we'll have our ethics guard up.

Any form of cheating is still cheating regardless of its nature. Once you performed an act that has an advantage over the other illegally then it is considered as cheating. In adherence to gambling, even though the nature of the act is based on odds, cheating would result to an individual's persona non-grata on the said casino or may be even held criminally liable.


Generally, people around the forum have respect and morals over their works and acts. People who mainly cheat are usually the ones who are suffering from financial needs or problems. Most individuals gamble for the purpose of entertainment; cheating would totally destroy the purpose of having fun. Nevertheless, ethics must be properly followed like what is mandated on the laws and rules.

Well i never actually tried to cheat in gambling because i never thought it is possible to cheat, i mean i know for a fact that in real life casinos you can somehow cheat, like counting in card games, but in online gambling is that even possible, anyway, cheating is always bad whether you are a gambler or not ,some people are ok with it, others are not, but wining with cheating does not have the same feeling when you win with your hard work.

Having ethics on gambling is good but consider this thing to be applied on all sorts of our daily living and would really give a peace of mind since we are talking about gambling then I would also choose on losing than on tending to cheat and same as you said once you act or do have motive to cheat then its already considered illegal once being caught then suffer the consequences but if you are a greedy man or do really seek for money then you wont really matter about ethics and do things on all sorts as long you can make money which isn't really good.

I don’t believe in any kind of ethics when you are already doing an unethical thing. How can you save yourself from sin when you are living in sins? If someone is involved in gambling, firstly he is doing an unethical act and if we insist him to be ethical while playing, does it make any sense? I am sure not. Gambling isn’t good for your health and wealth so try to become unhabituated of this.

I don't think that it would really be a good thing to do something unethical because that's who you are and that would be what you do especially if others see you doing that kind of things. It's definitely needed to be ethical, but probably some people go over that line for something that is not worth too much to gamble. It's only yourself that would be responsible for it and to blame.

We are all sinners and doing unethical things is sometimes cant really be avoided but it shouldn't really be tolerated by someone.We do know it isn't right to make advantage to others but as you said if someone is already having the habit on being unethical then advising him would be pointless.

Once people do have those kind of impressions towards you then it would really remain forever.In my side I don't like for people to see me that way.

To cheat is a helpless, I try to warn him/her of someone cheating, I certainly do not agree with him. If I ignore the trick, it is a trick against me.

I really don't think ethics counts in winning, or gambling, this is a competitive environment, so any unfair advantage you can get to win should be taken.

So long as you are playing by the rules, it shouldn't matter how you win, whether by using sneaky tactics, loopholes or tricks, this is gambling. You need every advantage you can get since you're playing against stacked odds.

That being said, when playing with friends, you should be ethical, as it's not right to screw people over.

I think you're confusing something card counting in blackjack is not cheating, it is just a strategy nothing else, the reason why casinos banned that practice is because it gives the player advantage over the casino, so you can get an idea of how powerful that strategy really is, however things like marking the cards or looking at the cards of other players that is cheating.

I agree. There are some times that I have done some things just to want to play smart or you know that idea of winning is going to make you somehow feel special. In the general world, like you said, when it may end up affecting the opponent badly, it is highly unethical and a screwed up behavior. I would not lie though, I have tried to look for ways to beat online casinos before but all ended up inconsequential. However, in the real world, I have done this for few times.

Beating a house had become possible when observing some similar patterns. I spent long hours for analysis and also big money to frequent those gambling houses. I am not sure it all was being covered by ethics of general world or gambling world. Honestly I never mid them. I made some profits and I spent them again for gambling and got enough entertainments and satisfaction.

I must say when we are not harming anyone then all our activities must be covered under some ethics for sure. Even though, we need to be careful for following few basics of being a human then everything will be fine as per my experience.

I think I will try to tells the employee that there is one person that trying to cheat the games. I think if I tell him, it will be a little debate because I am sure that he will defend his self and say that he doesn't did that. so it will be better if I can meet the employee and tells about this by a secret so that person will get the time with them.

Personally I will not do anything like that but I will simply leave off that place for sure. Because I just want not to create any problem for myself and for the on-going environment of others rather than finding a solution for cheats. It may sound selfish but that is the reality actually I am believing in to. It may against the general ethics of human being still I do follow this for my peaceful life.

I will not blame for your way of thinking and doing when you are finding someone cheats. I have seen many people are like you that is the reason some misbehaving people are enjoying their action so far. You need to go legally so that you will not lose your peace at the same time you can find chances to get punishment for those people. Different people will be having different opinion moreover I cannot force anything to you.

People always cheat and you can’t even stop them. Either in the case you are a boss and your employee have cheated on you or if you are the employee and your boss have cheated on you. Reasons is no one agrees to accept that he has done anything wrong. Until and unless there are some evidences or some physical bodies that can be shown to prove your cheat. Still things are always confused.

I do follow all human morals while gambling. Even my first priority is making money still I never hurt nor cheat anyone. When we are afraid of God then we will never make any such mistakes. Gambling can be used for anything like for money making or for entertainment but only when we gamble by following ethics then only we can lead a good life without any feeling of guilty.

Well I would say I have never cheated on gambling as well, but it kind on depends on how far your ethics go. For instance I played soccer when I was younger. Not a very high level, just regional and school level, but they were official competitions, and there was money and prizes involved, etc. So it wasn't just a game with some friends.

Like I said I never cheated in a grand scale, like arranged matches etc, but for instance let's say you make a foul and the referee does not see it. Even though you know you made the foul, isn't it unethical or considering cheating not saying anything? It's kind of a gray area, because it's not your decision to make, but you know you are wrong, and you are not even trying to do anything to change it, so maybe that's cheating as well.

I have always believed ethics count in everything, and as tempting as it would be, I would rather just look away or tell him to please cover his cards well.

Yeah, it sounds ridiculous and it takes a lot of principle and discipline to be able to do that, but it can be done. However, it totally depends on how some people see it, some may think it is part of the game, but the last time I checked, peeping into someone's card is cheating and cheating is unethical.

I know a lot of people are going to be saying this. Personally, gambling is a game and every player should know better to keep their cards out of the opponent's eye but in the real sense, it totally depends on each individual and how they perceive cheating in general. While some may find it amusing and as a bit of luck opened for them, some will count it as a very bad thing to consider doing. This is totally about the person in question being ethical in their response to things generally.

Maybe for some people, they could afford to let go of their life principles on the premise of earning in the process. This is not new, however, as there were many times in the past that people would sell their principles just so they could earn something bigger, as they think, in return. Hence, I can say that it would depend on the individual. The latter holds the cards as to whether they would take into consideration ethics when gambling or trading per se. Because as odd as it may sound, people that greatly values ethics would not even think of 'gambling' if we meant gambling in the local sense of the word. Because generally, gambling is frowned upon by most religions and conservatives.