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March 26, 2018, 09:36:56 AM
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I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
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March 26, 2018, 10:41:01 AM
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sometimes it is fun to cheat, as long as you are not harming anyone I don't see any problem with that. like when you are playing a friendly card game at home with a bunch of people you know, it may not even be for money Grin
I have never done it but I have to admit I have thought about doing it.

but when it is fixing games and stuff like that which can harm others and also when it can be considered thievery, then that is it right at all.

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March 26, 2018, 10:47:33 AM
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I have never cheated but it is very difficult to cheat if you play in big online or even land-based casinos. I remember doing it as home as @Pursuer says, when I was a kid and was no money involved, but for the sake of winning.

I can understand people up to a point if they try to cheat for huge sums of money. Money drive people crazy.

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March 26, 2018, 11:33:09 AM
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Ethics matter everywhere, you aren't ethical if you just pick and choose the circumstances where you decide to be ethical or not.
You are either practice good morals or you do not, there's no in-between, at least not according to me.

The same with gambling, for me it would not be okay to cheat, whether you're playing with friends or at a big casino.

Now I do see a gray area if you're just using skill to get an extra edge in the game.
Counting cards in blackjack is an example.

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March 26, 2018, 12:38:19 PM
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I don't see any good things that I can keep from cheating unless the winnings that I am getting, still if you have that winnings, it is like you rob them and not really won them since you are cheating them, right? I am gambling because I am hoping to win some big cash that I don't really get in a short time in my job though I am also having fun gambling since I don't really want to keep myself used in betting and always losing since that will really make me pissed. Before that happens, I will stop myself.
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March 26, 2018, 01:01:35 PM
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Never managed to cheat an online game nah!

The security is too damn high normally. But I thought about a rather simple way to cheat on poker:
You enter a table of 8 with 7 accounts in total. The last seat will be taken by someone else.

Then it means you have 7 hands as information while your opponent has only one hand of information.
I don't know how it could work but that means you would have 7 times more information than your opponent!

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March 26, 2018, 01:56:50 PM
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Never managed to cheat an online game nah!

The security is too damn high normally. But I thought about a rather simple way to cheat on poker:
You enter a table of 8 with 7 accounts in total. The last seat will be taken by someone else.

Then it means you have 7 hands as information while your opponent has only one hand of information.
I don't know how it could work but that means you would have 7 times more information than your opponent!
Well, you are not far away from truth.

In online poker it is hard to prove anything, and you could end up on table playing against group of friends which can lead only to your loss.

While I was playing cash games in the past, I noticed at some poker sites strange behavior on certain tables, for example 5 players are sitting off and as soon as someone join table they all become active, and you can't play poker against whole table.
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March 26, 2018, 03:03:32 PM
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I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.

It is not that they want to win but the main problem is their EGO which is why they tempered the ball to win the game. When the EGO comes in game you can expect any illegal way of winning it. That is why it is told that play fairly and dont let EGO over come you.

In online gambling it is hard to cheat only the site developer can cheat as they have control over the site program.
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March 26, 2018, 09:03:27 PM
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Never managed to cheat an online game nah!

The security is too damn high normally. But I thought about a rather simple way to cheat on poker:
You enter a table of 8 with 7 accounts in total. The last seat will be taken by someone else.

Then it means you have 7 hands as information while your opponent has only one hand of information.
I don't know how it could work but that means you would have 7 times more information than your opponent!
That was cool and I don’t consider it as cheating. That is using your brain when it is required. If you have the opportunity to take seven seats, your opponent has also the same chance. But he does not look at things the way you do. Everything is fair in this game. It is pointless to care about ethics in an unethical game. Yes, gambling is definitely not appreciated in any part of the world. A gambler should only aim at winning the game to save himself from loss.
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March 27, 2018, 09:25:26 AM
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I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.


This is a quite bad attitude from the reputed team captain. You need to win the game by cheating.

I gamble very less only sometimes sports betting and play short while a dice game but never think about cheating to win. Also, I gamble for just for fun not so desperate to make money from these games so never think about to cheat the person or a system win my bet.
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March 27, 2018, 09:34:01 AM
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I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.

I honestly cheated many times but it with friends or family members. lol. We all just having fun and the money I won, I will simply buy food like pizza for everyone. But as far as in landbase casino's or if I'm playing with others, no. I'm afraid that I will be caught and you will that you will end up something you will not like.

Yeah, there's some unwritten code for us gamblers not to cheat because you don't want to be cheated as well.

Edit: I remember a group of people who always cheated, they are like a syndicate. They would target rich folks, but one day we all arose from a group of police raiding one house. Well, its those criminals who cheated someone, however, he has some kind of connections to the police that's why the group was busted and we don't know what happened to them up to this day.


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March 27, 2018, 10:02:09 AM
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The cricket game is totally a different scenario, which I totally believe is highly unethical. However, in gambling, forget ethics bro, even the casino owners, both online and offline cheat, so if you have the chance to get back at them and get away with it, good for you.

Moreover, not like one can easily achieve such aim anyway, looking at how these places or platforms are fashioned to always be in the favor of the house edge. Nevertheless, I do not see anything related to ethics in gambling; since you are being robbed most of the time and you gladly allow yourself to get robbed Grin. So, if you have a chance to gain all that you have lost back and be smart about it, hmm... ethics can go perch for the mean time.

Jokes apart now! In general though, being ethical pays 100% of the time and if you cannot imbibe an ethical culture in little things, no matter how tempting cheating can be, then you can end up embarrassing yourself for an action that was not worth it.
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March 27, 2018, 10:46:31 AM
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To me ethic remains important even we are in the world of gambling. By maintaining ethics, I hope others will treat me in the same way including casino owners. If I feel that I get unfair treatment, of course I will not go back to that place again. Even for example I am able to cheat the game, I will tell the bug to the site owner instead of exploited it for my own advantage.

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March 27, 2018, 12:21:13 PM
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Don't ever cheat because if you do this thing, its a sign that money controls your life.
That's greed and it can really ruin your reputation, better to just play the game win or lose at least you are happy that's what gambling is.
I've never cheat and have no plan to do it, well you might got caught and be in prison for good so be careful.
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March 27, 2018, 12:56:23 PM
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I've never heard about the news about Captain Smith until now. I haven't cheated in gambling, only did it in video games. I agree with btcdevil we have provably fair in online gambling it's hard to rig the outcome of any gambling game just to win there are a couple of users who pulled it off (hufflepuff) but now it's unlikely to happen again and huge withdrawals are always processed manually so if someone wins big they'll always check the user's activity.


I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
There would always be a certain person that would cheat in gambling because money is involved.

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March 27, 2018, 03:43:44 PM
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Well since the question is highly subjective, the answer is expectedly varying.

As for me, I am always guided by my principles no matter where life takes me. Hence, gambling or not, the principles I have learned all throughout are always taken into consideration before I even embark onto something. So it is a YES. Yes, ethics count in winning/gambling because were it not ethical on your standpoint, you would not have gambled in the first place. You must have believed in it because you decided to pursue it, right?
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March 27, 2018, 03:51:24 PM
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You can cheat as long as you not get detect means that you have done it in good place with a good time.
It's very rare to see it happen , yes indeed ! because every match always make a better improvement for fair game

~ethics is everything !

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March 27, 2018, 04:01:31 PM
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IMO the essence of winning is defeated when you cheat. Who are you truly fooling when you cheat? Aren't we just fooling ourselves. It may give you a sense of satisfaction because you may have thought that you have fooled all the other people by winning through the means of cheating but really you're only just cheating yourself. Sadly, many still cheat even in gambling. There are some rigs that can be put so that one may easily win the game.

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March 27, 2018, 04:46:28 PM
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in fact ethics is very important, even if in gambling or whatever to get the honor of each person it is for me very pleasant with good ethics can establish good relationship every gambling, cheat is not good tips but it stupid can not think with his own head no matter what's the risk, it's just looking for victory, even if it does not hurt others, I hope with good ethics can get a pure victory.
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March 27, 2018, 04:58:15 PM
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I don't think we can relate cheating in sports to cheating in gambling. In sports the player can be the one cheating or be bribed at to intentionally lose the game, but in gambling cheating is a harder thing to do as the casino or the site always have the edge. Cheating here sometimes involves a lot of people or lookouts for the cards or if it is a machine then you need some kind of program to hack into their system. Not to mention that cheating inside a casino is considered as a crime compared to cheating in a sport which will only result into fines and penalties, or a permanent ban as its worst penalty.
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