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Why? Why not

I've heard both sides of the argument and to a certain extent, they both make sense more or less.

Thoughts?

If you know technical analysis you would know that the bitcoin is being manipulated especially in the 5-30 mins chart because these financial institutions wants to take the price down so they could buy more before the great bullrun happen so it means we shouldnt sell our holdings in panic or else we could lose a lot more.

Yup, every market is continuously and presently being manipulated; this isn't unique to crypto.

Unfortunately I think it is being manipulated some how. I wouldn't be able to say how exactly, but I think it is...

I personally believed that the markets arent fully manipulated for the reason that they were so down right now. It has to do with the economy and the real stock markets but with this happening, the FUD and everything who wants to benefit from this downfall had slightly manipulates the crypto markets, they take advantage of the downfall. But no worries. Bitcoin will rise again.

Purely manipulations,and only those financial institutions like CME and Wallstreet could be the ones behind these bloodybaths it needs atleast 10 of billions of dollars to manipulate a single chart of bitcoin that is why it is the big players who are doing it for sure,and we small players should learn how these people move so that we can prevent losses.

Pump and dump of the market occurs constantly. This is a known fraud, the purpose of which is the rapid appreciation of a certain asset with the subsequent sale of it for profit from a price jump.  Such methods are illegal and regulated by the legislation on securities and stock exchanges.  But such manipulations are extremely popular in the market of crypto-currencies and digital assets.  To protect investors from market manipulation, CTFC representatives gave several recommendations: Avoid buying virtual coins or tokens on the recommendation from the outside, especially if advice is given by unknown people in the social network.  Do not trust ads or websites that promise quick enrichment.  Avoid participation in fraudulent schemes.  Manipulation by the market is illegal, so it can lead to negative consequences for many participants.  There is no absolutely successful and universal trading strategy.  Therefore, if someone claims that certain investments are free of risks, then this is a fraud.  The lack of regulation and protection of consumers in the crypto currency market still opens wide opportunities for the implementation of fraudulent and manipulative schemes.  Therefore, it is always better to conduct an independent independent analysis of the assets that you intend to invest in.  At the same time volumes should be acceptable, and failure should not have a significant impact.

I'm totally sure that market is manipulated. I think that it's quite easy to manipulate crypto market. People react on all news and the newsmakers are definitely controlled. So just publish that EU ban crypto and market will go down even if it's fake.

By who is manipulated?

Of course it is why would bitcoin's value will fall bellow again ? because these giants are selling off their profits that is why the market is dumping too hard so we need to know when will these people start buying more cheap coins in the market,usually these people are just waiting for the market to start to recover so that they can buyback from there resulting for another pump.

Yes i think so? especially the bitcoin's value because the candle is + - $300 each coin and it only means big players,financial institutions are doing it because you will need billions of dollars to manipulate bitcoin's value! dont convinced yet? learn some basic technical analysis so you would easily know the chart's movements of bitcoin.

There is something i have come to understand about life, most especially when it comes to business and has the dealings of man, is prone to manipulation. Most especially to make it suit their purpose. Since the value of cryptocurrency is determined by traders through buy and sell, surely, a buyer who wants to buy can manipulate the price buy trying all techniques that will bring the price down and vice versa.
Manipulation can also occur during competition between two coins trying to gain relevance. The other competitor will try all means possible to bring the other coin down.

How many players are in market? Aim all of them is profit, huge profit. Anything wouldn't be manipulated from the very begining but now, market is manipylated of course. For example let's see bitcoin, ether, litecoin and etc. What do you think, these coins can bring big commercial benefit and will BIG players just close their eyes?

It's definitely manipulated to some point. But you have to also consider the low total crypto market cap right now is caused by normies who got burned hard with 20k Bitcoin and now have sold their alts and BTC holdings to compensate the heavy losses.

Might be because google, twitter and the other social media companies banned ICO advertisements or... something nobody talks about... It might be Bitmain.

After halong mining announced its new miner DragonMint T1 (https://halongmining.com/shop/dragonmint-16t-miner/), Bitmain's monopoly over Btc mining business has been threatened. To keep HalongMining out of business Bitmain might be dumping its stash to keep bitcoin mining unprofitable. Recently Bitmain started make discounts on their S9 miners too. They are now below $2k price tag which makes Halong's T1's overpriced.

Maybe It was just google but nobody can deny that this bear market benefits Bitmain the most. If things were going well and we were in a bull market, Halong would become a serious threat to bitmain but now I am not sure because Bitmain has made more profits even than Nvidia last year. That means they can survive a bear market longer than anyone can which is very bad news for halong.

Why not ? because these financial institutions are being manipulated it all the time,people should know that these players are here to take control the cryptocurrency market while they can because if the market has trillion of dollars marketcap it wont be possible to manipulate it,that is why they are taking advantage the situation.

The market currently is being manipulated. And with various news flying around about crypto ads ban, that's enough reasons for this whole dump being faced everyday. Also the Mtgox Bitcoin sales is crashing the market as well.

Yes for the past week I feel as though there is a negative been peddled around that warrants panic selling hence the drastic  plunge in coin prices

Yes it is ,and it always been like this ! big players such as financial institutions like CME and Wallstreet have been manipulating it since last year and we should know that this is just the start of the further dips.Always put cutlosses so that you wont be losing everythign whenever the market has started to crash everything can happen so stay alert!

I don't think market manipulation really happens with regards to bitcoin, the market volume is so huge that it would take a superwhale to really manipulate it. The only thing that could be happening is if there is a mass sell-off from one of these whales, slowly dumping their BTC onto the market every day, leading to a sustained dip that we see now.

Personally i think markets are hit by severe bears and at the moment the market has found some support, from now on accumulation phase has started that can last from some days to some weeks and then we can expect a good bull run.

This market is being manipulated all the time, but I think in about a year the manipulations will be less serious.

Not only now ? but most of the time the market and bitcoin's price is being manipulated doesnt want to pin point this but the big players are doing it everytime the market is failing,technical analysis wont be so accurate because these people can easily made the market very unpredictable compare to the previous years which only us are here!

I'll tell you a secret — markets are always manipulated. The FUD and world News can turn everything upside down. What, in fact, we are witnessing right now.

100% sure that it's somehow manipulated!

Most of the time the market is being manipulated,it started last year when most of the people in the forex and stocks have joined our party,cme and wallstreet gang are the ones that we should be afraid of because they can easily manipulate bitcoin's value  so we need to be two steps ahead from these people so we cant be affected by their manipulations.

No matter which thing you would go either stocks,forex,crypto then talking about this manipulation on the market isn't really new or surprising at all. Price manipulation is always there specially when theres big players but we cant really completely traced out on the activities which do involves such manipulation but we can obviously tell that theres something behind it when we do hear about news which is roaming around.

The probability of manipulation is very high since there are no existing law prohibiting the group of individual pumping and dumping of certain coins. Then if this is the case should we discourage to invest in crypto? My answer in no! If these are the case we can use it to our advantage using the pattern used by whales. We need to learn when they invest and when they exit. If these happens we can outsmart their fund manager.

Crypto market is highly manipulated market I ever seen. Even a small news makes lots of difference . Like recent some news decreased 150 billion marketcap . Even there was no scope for that news .more than that news were good for crypto currency . Even market dumped.

Yes it's possible and applies to all coins, there will always be whales from any coins, some of these are dev's of that coins or early investors who want to make a profit by manipulating the market, this happens because of not equally distributed coins in the market, it will go on because this is what trading is all about.

I don't think this market be manipulated 100%, yeah it's very difficult to doing that. Maybe 50% pure be manipulated and 50% it's pure not manipulated. This crash is caused by google, twitter and facebook they have decission to ban cryptocurrency. And if you say this market is 100% manipulated I think some investor or the user of cryptocurrency will feel is not well and very risk.

Looks like that.
Maybe somebody want to earn a lot of money

If every hour and every minutes you monitor the graph of all coins maybe you'll have an clue or hint if it being manipulated or control but like me as a student i don't have enough time in this kind of industry i can't monitor the price and graph of the coins cause i only see in once a week. i hope that the others opinion will give a big help and explanation if it is true

yes it is, there are some people who wants to manipulate it, and they already did. because they want to buy on lower prices. they manipulate it by spreading false information about bitcoin and other cryptoccurrencies.

There is no manipulation at the moment. but the investor is a bit cowardly, so we see these values.  ??? ???

Yes governments of the strong countries like USA & CHINA are trying to manipulate the market. As now these countries are getting themselves ready to go for trade war. So currently they want manipulate the market so that they can make themselves stronger than any other country.

Manipulations are always present, even in a bull market, not to mention the current situation. And not only whales and governments but investors themselves also begin to manipulate the price in this way.

Of cause, this all is just manipulations with BTC and whole market. BTC price was pumped so high - a good chance to sell. Now price is dumped for one purpose only - buy cheap BTC and then punp it again. Crypto always was manipulated.

I don't think the markets are being manipulated right now just because of the cryptos currencies price went down, it is just fluctuation in the price because of the bad news about the cryptos currencies advertising will be banned by Google on june 2018, the people were panic selling, but i am sure the price will be back again and today is good time for buy and holding them.

Manipulate and still as. The big players that do not leave a chance for small traders to rise. They do not control the rate, but when the rate rises, they drain a huge amount of currency to go into plus, and the rate falls because of this.

What do you people mean by manipulated?
It's a free market, whoever can move it will move it as he pleases.

And you can bet he isn't going to move it in your favour. Talk about market manipulation is on the same level as bears shitting in the woods and getting burned if you play with fire.

I really don't know about this but it might be manipulated by some groups or any people which want to see bitcoin price is down. I see that every time bitcoin price is going to higher, in a few hours later, the price is down again and it seems difficult to reach higher. I think it is related to much negative news about bitcoin and any country that doesn't like bitcoin and they want to push bitcoin to go down again although I am sure that they have bitcoin too.

Any market depends on its participants and regulators. The influence of regulators on the market is obvious. As for market participants, there are large ones among them. Naturally, their influence on the market is great and with cooperating they can manipulate it.

i heard that issues a lot too, it makes sense, but who knows if it's true?
we just can wish that the price of altcoins will getting better again soon, so we can earn much money from it.

Maybe it's just paranoia but there hasn't been any important FUD or anything like that as far as I know, so I think it's the whales that the markets are down for so long now.

I wouldn't say it is being manipulated in the artificial ways. I mean the market is getting manipulated but it is all happening naturally. The downtrend surge was the first reason to get people nerve wrecked about the whole situation and then later on people started realising that they are loosing the money. In the long run this chain reaction started growing slowly and as we can see it has ended up badly and now BTC is moving up and down near to 7-8K USD. I think what happens from now onwards is simple, those people with big bucks in the hand will start buying huge quantities of the bitcoins and will push the market upwards. Thats easy output that we will see now.

Yes, it is surely manipulated. But who are the manipulators and what is their goal?

Yes, major reason is banning ads Facebook, Twitter and after few months Google.
There are so big restrictions for going well of cryptocurrency.
Today I saw bitcoin rise slowly.  It can go slowly,  if bitcoin up then altcoin will be up I hope.
Market manipulation also good but people's who are holding coins, they are in tension.

There will always be market manipulation in this industry. Coins with low volume are easily manipulated specially by whales. You just need to know how to thrive.

Whales making more money for themselves? ;D

A lot of people like to cry and complain about whales but if I had to guess they just want more money so.

yup, what he said^^^

I believe there is a possibility for that, the big players might make use of this chance when the global markets have some unstable news that will terrify the smaller investors from investing and go out of the market with net loss. At the same time they can make use of this chance to buy potential tokens/ eth at a all time low price and also having a greater profit margin.

US government is trying to manipulate the crypto platform but we have another supporting country is ready to survive the crypto platform because Russian government is more supported in Crypto platform so currently some issues are created in Big whales and Big MNC companies. It is just a temporary rumour but no one should manipulated in crypto market.

All markets are being manipulated even stock exchange, you are just not aware of it.  If you can see the chart, there is a huge demand in bitcoin but new whales are preventing it to  jump high because they also need to accumulate in order for them to manipulate the market better.

Sometimes, the prices of crypto increase or decrease suddenly within few minutes then it turn back into it's normal trend. This would be a result of market manipulation. Whales or organizations who hold a great deal amount of that coin want the price of crypto to move.

How do you define manipulation? Every market participant naturally want the market to go their direction and do their best to affect the market in certain ways so that they make more profits. Where do you want to draw the line for manipulation or not manipulation?

This is a familiar thing for the crypto world. Because manipulating the market is a strategy, to attract investors buy or invest in bitcoin prices are down. Investors who have bought bitcoin at a high price, do not panic and do not rush to sell it because one day bitcoin prices will rise again. Be patient if we do not want to lose ..

I am no expert when it comes to the market or the values of the digital currencies although i know that there are certaon factors that greatly affect its values and some of which would be the supply and demand ratio of the coin. I haven’t thought of the market as being manipulated but maybe, this is pretty much possible but we can never be sure about such possibility.

At some point, I want to believe that bitcoin really got manipulated. Probably the whales has the power to make sudden changes in the price. I stiill believe that bitcoin has decentralized feature, and no one can actually intervene on its price. There is no denying that there were still big holders that can actually make a big effect on price, but surely this effect will not take to long. The price will still go on according to the trend of demand.

Of course it is being manipulated, if it wasn't then no one would be able to earn on it. They need people to invest, so they could earn. Trading and all of the markets, will be always manipulated by speculative big whales, so they could earn more money!

It all depends on how one defines manipulation because the market can be manipulated in many ways. Take for example the Facebook announcement of banning all crypto re!ated ads which later followed by Google's announcement for the same purpose all these and other FUD have affected the crypto market negatively. Simply put all these news have manipulated the market, so,if this market bleeding is actually manipulated based on these points you can see that it have now provided opportunity for those behind it to buy at a very cheap price .

There is a judgement that this manipulation is directed to extrusion of small-sized miners. Now their income was also so reduced and if the situation with the prices proceeds further, then mass draining of video cards and asik will go. As a result, in the market there will be only large players who will drive the prices up. So it is only necessary to wait this negative period and then again everything will turn green.

Everyone always manipulates someone if it is profitable for someone. Manipulation of people's consciousness with the help of fake news from the world of cryptocurrencies contributes to the growth or fall of prices for all coins and the market as a whole, on which those who have millions of dollars at their disposal earn. It's simple, where there is an opportunity to earn money, there will certainly be someone who will take advantage of this moment.

"Price manipulation is not something new. You see it in mainstream markets as well. We are in a very nascent, growing phase of our industry and these things are unavoidable," Lon Wong, president of NEM, told CNBC. for more information go to https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/13/cryptocurrency-price-manipulation-is-unavoidable-nem-president-says.html

One thought we have to keep in mind is: "Indenpendent of studies, graphical analysis and fundamentalists we are subject to manipulations, this is the reality and the only factor that can change in relation to that thought is financial power, the higher, the less we are subject, fact.

Cryptocurrency transactions are still tax-free in South Korea due to a lack of tax regulations.

Here the author not bad tried and analysed the reasons of the current sitation in the cryptomarket. Of course, this his personal opinion. Anyway, such detailed analysis and comparison with other markets gives additional information to own reasonings.

https://medium.com/@super.crypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-can-it-be-burnt-no-way-c53de65c166a

Plus the additional analysis on investments.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ICOAnalysis/comments/7t2xdg/ico_analysis_financial_approach/

And after that it becomes clear that if the cryptomarket easily gives in to manipulation, then as it is still absolutely small and young

Like every other government made up of people.Self interest will always win out.The third party fiduciary system works against self interest and inevitably fails when the pressures become too great. Decentralization works with that tendency to insure a fair market.The greater the pressure, the more it works. Never panic selling when that's about Bitcoin, just buy the dip.

Yes. I agree that the market is manipulated.

Yes, if I refer to it like that. But certainly not all manipulation. Those in power do strategy by making panic holders through negative and false news. As a result, the market becomes bloody as many investors panic and release their own crypto.

Some crypto with low volume can be manipulated by any party, but BTC and ETH has big volume and market cap so its hard to manipulate. Only possible to manipulate by make many fake news and FUD, and many trader sell panic and dump the price.

I'm not a specialist and can't how exactly but yes, it is being manipulated;

I already heard this kind of word "bullrun". And it will soon to happen, some of the big whales are manipulating the price of bitcoin,  to affects all coins in the market,  meaning when all coins are in the dip, a lot of new holders are getting panic to sell their coins most probably bitcoin,  then whales slowly swallow all cheap bitcoin price for their future purposes.  After this "bullrun" all coins will pump,  and regrets shows to exist to those who already sell their coins while in the dip.

in fact, the market is not being manipulated. because the market is the reality of the condition of coins that are up and down. so many people say that it is being manipulated.

Whales are selling their coins gradually and keep their money to save for the dip price. While all the beginners holder also sell their coins because the price is keep falling. We cannot control this situation and all we need is follow the market.

The crypto market is so easy to be manipulated. Remember what already happened when mtgox trustee was dumping a lot of bitcoin to the market and the little shrimps and whales just follow it and that makes the price of bitcoin down a lot. That gives a real evidence about the market can be manipulated by a party which hold a lot of coins or it can be considered as more than whales.

Yes, i agree that there has been a strong manipulation going on from past few months till there is a record high is printed on the cryptocurrency price charts and now i can clearly see that after the high is printed the manipulation is still going on and i feel that buyers are buying on the deeper correction so that they can benefit for the long term , but the move has not been started as the big WHALES (pro traders) are still ruling the market.It is better to enter in the market when there is a strong trend.

You have to accept the fact that the cryptocurrencies are not controlled by any organization or government, but are easily manipulated by people who have the money we usually call whales. They invested a lot of cryptos to manipulate the exchange rate, causing the market to fall continuously. So if you decide to invest then invest in Bitcoin and ETH then hold and do not care about the exchange rate anymore.

Sir, this is for sure. The stock market will also be manipulated. The cryptocurrency market policy is not perfect, it will be manipulated.

They're not manipulated. The market is now unattended. I don't know why there was a decline, most likely because of the bears. But at the moment he is free. I guess the bears did not expect that dropping a course, no one will take.

Yes surely it was manipulated by the bigwhales to buy bitcoin at the bottom level and the manipulation is done by the ad bans in the reputed online platforms like twitter,google and facebook.So we also can use this condition in our favour just bu now and there is a little bit price bump from yeterday price so hope it will continue.

Yes, crypto trading will be like the forex markets imo

I think that this is pointless reasoning. We, after all, most likely will not know how things really are.

I think people in the market right now is confusing to see the price in every coin because every coin is not increased or decrease and only stay at the price now. only one or two coins that is increasing but it's not too high and the bitcoin price tend to decrease more and more without giving a signal to increase back. people which trade bitcoin pair usdt is not believed that the price decreases only and cannot increase back and some of them make a lost huge money.

Thinking out loud....
Den Larimen creates a rival eht in the form of EOS, and collects from sale of its tokens eth, imagine how much eth he has in his hands, and how he can manipulate the price

Markets are definitely manipulated, whether by design or outlying factors, each plays a crucial role to the same effect.

I would not believe this to be the case earlier but I started to believe nowadays. causing the market to reduce the volume of money and sell people at a loss price.

Yes now more people are confused and they think that selling is a good choice. When it should be when conditions like this then we should be patient. With patience then we can make the right decision. Just imagine when we all do panic action in a lot of intensity then it will only lower the level of confidence in Bitcoin. So continue to use Bitcoin and when we can intensely use Bitcoin in our financial transactions then it will help the Bitcoin price get better.

The crypto markets have been manipulated from the start. And you wouldn't get this kind of volatility you see in crypto markets without any manipulation. In fact I would say that this manipulation is good for the markets as this is what attracts everyone to the crypto world.

It can be , because if someone were holding a huge amount of bitcoin that is enough to control the price it can be happen , they will sell and convert it to fiat and it they want to pump the price they will buy more coins .

Yes, the liquidity of all cryptocurrencies are relatively small. 2000 btc selling is enough to influence the market. Many whales has a lot of btc that can influence the market. But for smart people they can get advantage in any condition.

Yes , this is the truth currently that what going on in the market of cryptourrency  and also we can see that it is a type of the pump and dump that was done by many channels in the past but now that trend of pump of altcoins gone and now big whales of bitcoin holders are doing Thier work to dump bitcoin and making lots of profit .
But in Actual in my opinion we should not see such types of dump and also we should not go with dump sell Beca and in this way we will only face loss and nothing  , so why not we should hold our bitcoin until we got profit instead to get loss .
Such types of manipulation were not common in old times but now this is much common which is truth because in these days no negative news about cryptourrency are coming but still dump is going on , so we should remain careful from manipulation .

Yes i thik it always been like this! Big players in financial institutions like CME and wallstreet have been manipulating with various News flying around about  Crypto ads ban that's enough for this whole dump being faced every day

Personally i think the markets are being manipulated. Markets are always manipulated. Perhaps now these are shareholders Google, Twitter, Facebook and Yandex.
RACIB along with industry associations in Korea and China are planning to sue Google, Twitter, Facebook and Yandex for refusing to place cryptocurrency advertising in May. The actions of these four tech companies have negatively affected the crypto market.
That's what they write:
“We believe that this is a use of the monopoly position of these four companies, which have entered into a cartel agreement with each other in order to manipulate the market. The ban from these four organizations has led to a significant drop in the market in recent months.”

i don't have valid proof that the market of crypto are being manipulated by some people but on my predictions yes it could be manipulate that some of people who have big capital of amount can be do that and usually they can take the advantages from technical issue regarding crypto related

I learned from a mentor, that volatile in the market are the point of it volatile are the reasons investor and trader take profit, and every market always have up and down time. always enter in dip position. at least we have try.

Seeing the coin graphs, it appears almost all the cryptocurrencies rise together and when falling, do so together. But seeing it from a technical point of view, the price is influenced by the demand in market and the recent rise in threats from governments.

Of course, it's manipulated. The crypto market will be under manipulations until it won't be regulated by the strict laws. This happens on any unregulated markets. One of the main reasons why rich investors buy the media is to use them for their own purposes, one of them is manipulation.

As long as there is Tether they will be manipulated.

Yes, crypto market is definetely manipulated by big players. They even spread positive/negative news due to buy/sell coins for the price they like.

 
Yes, when we talk about market specially marketing side of the people.The is the commodity will be the government of the market owner and it depends on what market competition. And also people will tend to buy the product in the market even though prices high and supply is low.

I think it might be. But whatever the impact is, when the cryptocurrency market is well known and traded, it is certain that the crystalline market will grow and grow stronger. The media is a useful tool, strongly influencing people and people who will refer and use for their own purposes when participating in investing and trading in the cryptocurrency market.

It might be. But if you going to review what's going on to bitcoin they are implementing lightning network and soon to be implemented on all exchanges and wallet. Will just wait before it goes live.

I personally seen it by myself because i am in marginal trading in bitmex that is why i know how bitcoin's value is being manipulated by these financial institutions,each candle is being manipulated averagely $50-$80 that is why im sure that these financial instutions are the ones who are trying to put the bitcoin's price down so that they can get as much as they can,because you will need millions of dollars to manipulate these candles.

Bitcoin is manipulated, others not so much, but silly people look at bitcoin price and sell the alts.

maybe not but this could happen yes of course that is doing it is a world investor that currently plays a price on the market so I think if it really happened then there is great hope for altcoin users to get more profits than ever before.

The anti ethereum that collected huge amount of eth and its platform will launch this year, by the way in my personal opinion the whole market can be manipulate by a bigwhale (holding a huge amount of altcoin) if they sell all their token its surely create a big dump to the market from the start of crypto world its manipulated by big investor.

But bitcoin is proven centralised, alts not.

It is 100% manipulated by whale and giant holders, they were always doing FUD and the cause is panic selling then it is their time to buy at the bottom then repeat.

I think the market is in constant manipulation. unfortunately it is the nature of the beast at the moment.

Of course it is,if you are using technical analysis you will see the chart is so much manipulated that is why i suggest that you should stay away from your computer and wait for these people to stop what they are doing,its killin the market probably these banks has started to take actions against our growing community that is why they are doign this!

Hello!The markets are manipulated 100% Big vales only waits for the moment to get they rewards,they dump and pump when want i think vitalik and another big persons is controled.Look on market graphics u can see all the way looks like someone draw it,crypto needs to get regulated or big persons with crypto can speculate always when they want..

I think the market is now dominated by whales in part, partly because of the influence of policies applied in the BTCs of some countries. Thus, BTC prices are falling sharply. The market will go through this period of crisis in the next few months. So do not worry too much, do not sell our BTC. Hold on to them.

Perhaps we do not know much, but I believe that yes - some communities of rich people can influence the market. This is a minus the decentralized system. We must accept this.

I'm sure that we are being manipulated so that we sell our coins and in the future the market sharks will deploy the market with a large amount of investments  :P

I definitely think that the markets are being manipulated; mainly by the media. It is worrying that most of the crypto currency news outlets are own by entities that have deep ties to traditional banking establishment that fears BTC. When I browse through them, nothing by FUD. You have to ask yourself, whose side are they on.

I think that the current dips in the market are artificial and result of some manipulation, They doesn't seem natural. I dont have a hard reason but I can say from my trading and TA experience that this is not what it used to be.

After the huge marketcap in the end of 2017, lots of brokers and analysts entered the crypto world, since they saw the opportunities, for sure. So yes, the market is manipulated and as the marketcap increases, the number of manipulators increases, too.

Which I fear all nations that disagree with the existence of crypto they join and agree to price manipulation so as to make the price of bitcoin and altcoin weaken.  ;D But it seems like this is not possible, given the many benefits of the blockhchain system.

Yes, crypto isnt really widespreaded yet, normal people are scared to jump in because the volatility. So most of the crypto holders are whales that surely have a big impact to the market if they buy or sell coins, and it can be called manipulation if they do it on purpose.

I think they are but only in the long run will we able to say who benefited from this manipulation. Smaller investors need to be very careful and alert to any changes and how these can impact their investments.

Yes, nowadays there is a lot of market manipulation for bitcoin investment especially nowadays there is an investment war between developed and developing countries.

price manipulation can happen, but doing it also needs big funds. if I think the current Cryptocurrency turbulence is due to the large influence of Cryptocurrency ads ban on Google, Facebook and Twitter, so many people are selling their coins, and causing the price of coins to drop drastically

Of course its so obvious because the candles has $50-$100 difference that is why i can confirm it ,we should stay away from the market until the maket has been stabilize probably when these people are done buying from the bottom they will going to push the market up and then repeat the cycle,selling from the peak dumping the market again and again.

Of course, the market is manipulated. The only question is who does this? It can be large players to extract their profits, but can be bankers and countries to neutralize the economic threat from bitcoin. In the second case, bitcoin can be fixed at a very low level for a very long time.

Of course it is if yo are using technical analysis with your trades you cannot do anything about the market situation right now you cant even know how will you trade about bitcoin's charts because it is obvious and you cannot join the ride because you will only get rekt especially those people who are doing marginal trading right now.

I think it is the work of both manipulation and last year correction. The market is correcting itself from last year pump and as a result manipulation is very easy since it drops frequently.

It looks like it is still being manipulated by the big players,today we saw that these candles are having a $50-100 window per candle that is why we can confirm that the big players are still enjoying the manipulations that they have because they can easily make money from it! we shouldnt be worried about these regulations but we should be more worried about these manipulations because it could make us rekt easily if we dont know what we are doing.

Yes it is being if the market isnt manipulated we are probably in a bull season now,these big players are easily manipulating the market of bitcoin because we still have less than a trillion marketcap,financial instutions are going to rekt most of the people by these manipulations that is why we need to be more alert with bitcoin's movements so we will know when will these people are going to pump or dump bitcoin's value.

I also think that the market is being manipulated. Not directly, but indirectly. Through news, etc. Now the government of some countries has interfered, which has opposed the crypto currency. But I still think that she has the right to the future.

Of course it is why wouldnt manipulated? its obviously manipulated the way that bitcoin's candle are doing it is much easier to turn off the computer and do something outdoor so we can stay away from these manipulations so we can avoid getting rekt witht these traps! We should be more vigillant because the market seems to be getting harder today.

Yeah, that's a possibility. It is profitable for large investors to buy cheaper. So they can push the price down.

Yes, it is definitely being manipulated. Bitcoin would not have hit $16,000 and dropped to $7,000 without serious manipulation from big players.

Yes it is,the way bitcoin's movements shows it is very manipulated and it could make us rekt if we dont know what we are into,most of the people will say its just a simple correction but if you know how to trade with technical analysis you would say it is very manipulated ,bitcoin's value is being compressed by some institutions so that they can buy more cheaper bitcoins as of the moment!.

  In the market of crypto currency since 2017 works cartel, and it was not avoidable.
Think for yourself, capitalization and popularity of the crypt industry for the last year so has grown, that it began to threaten the monopolies of banks and stock markets, and these spheres are controlled by fairly intelligent people.
  Therefore, their primary task today is to take control of the new industry - at any cost.

Yes i do think so because bitcoin's value is being compressed few days back that is why most of the altcoins in the market suffered enough,bleeding too much that most of them have fall beyond the limits that is why i can confirm it to you it is manipulated by the financial institutions because they are the only one who can do that because you will need billions of dollars worth to manipulate the market.

They are always manipulated, the crypto market is very small and is always held in a few powerful hands that play with the price at their will. Still, it is possible to take advantage of that.

Funny enough, I was in a discussion about this the other day. Long story short, yes, I do think the markets are being manipulated. I feel it's to allow other big investors who might have missed out the first time around to jump onboard, so I expect to see a surge in prices in the next couple of months or so. Stocks are manipulated, precious metals are manipulated. It all is. It certainly helps to hop on the rollercoaster at the right time.

Theres no doubt it is ,technical analysis wont work with these manipulations because these big players are doing it very carefully so that people wont notice it,bitcoin's charts is too manipulated because we can see some patterns on it, $40-80 windows are being created each candles in a 5minute chart and it needs a lot of money to be able to do that probably milliions of dollars.

Markets have been manipulated for a hundred years now. Since the formation of the stock market in America. And even now, the stock market is built on insider trading, despite all attempts by the SEC to stop this.

What to say about the market of crypto currency. A small group of people moves the price to the level they need at the moment.

Yes, I am sure the market is manipulated right now because those who are holding most of the coins dictate the market

Obviously yes,bitcoin's movements is being manipulated and these big players doesnt want to push the market up that is why we are still in bearish trend,normally these whales are going to put the market down and buyback from the dips that is why we need to wait them to buyback from the bottom so that the market will surely recover and we can take our profits too.

If you are trading with technical analysis you can easily notice it and you wont try to trade with these times because these big players are going to suck up your money for sure,sometimes staying away from danger will be the best move. As for now it doesnt matter it its manipulated or not because you shouldnt be trading today because the market is still unpredictable because of these manipulate movements.

Yes it is,bitcoin's movements confirms it these candles are just bull traps because the trend isnt yet reversed,not single breakouts happen and its just these big players who are giving the market a little green candles so those noob people will get trapped whenever they want to dump the market again and as usual ! this is how the market works and we should adopt to it.

Yes, I think so. Rigth now someone who hold a huge amount of bitcoin doing dump to get small price for buying more coins. Then they will do all to pump for converting coins to fiat on top of prices. But there are another peoples who has resist of it because have own interest. As result we have huge volatility.

I totally agree,markets are being manipulate by these giants decades to decades that is why right now they are try ton take over the the market by putting it downa and then acquire more bitcoins from the bottom so that those weak people in the market will lose their money instantly especially those panic sellers in the market.

Of course, this is nothing more than manipulation, because now the situation looks as if someone wants to stop crypto-currencies and their development by different methods. Think about the Tether project, I think that this project brings only harm as a vampire.

i have read somewhere that MT GOX people are dumping their 200k btc into the market so this is the reason of dip. if there is any other then i may not know that.. but i strongly believe that in the long run holder will get rewards they deserve

That is just a rumor because if they do that they are going to face a lot of charges from the people who used their exchange back then,because clearly they werent hacked,they are just keeping it for themselves and that is cheating and it could be the reason why the founders will be incarcerated if they are just fooling their users.

Manipulation happens very often now & then every time in the crypto market. There are many whales out there who hold coins with large volume to manipulate market price. If you are holding a potential coin then don't panic & don't sell your coin if you see many sell orders in an exchange, because that what the whale wants people to do, start panicking & selling their coins at a low price so whales can buy it. If you believe in the coin project then HODDLLL. The whales are not doing trading this is a type of gambling they are doing. Secondly, now the market is also being manipulated by investors who are doing betting in Bitcoin Futures contract whether the price goes up or down in future on a specific date. If they bet that bitcoin price will be low in future on that date so they use to spread FUD news in the market, so people start getting panic & sell their bitcoin, as a result, the price will drop & hence they win the bet.

For sure the market is manipulated by the people which are on the crypto's world top. I think they dictate the waves

There is a judgment that this manipulation is directed to displacement of miners of the small "size". Now their income has also been so reduced and if the situation with price earnings further, the mass desiccation of graphics cards and asik will go. As a result, there will be only large players in the market who depend on prices. Thus, you only need to wait for this negative period, and on the other hand everything will be green.

I have just read russian article about bank-syndicate that manipulate and destroy cryptocurrency :-\ I hope this is not true and my lambo is still waiting for me, but everything seems to be very close to hard manipulate by very big players.

Yes it is manipulated i can confirm it with the technicals of bitcoin the way it is getting dumped? financial institutions are doing it slowly and it seems they are into something that is why they are dumping bitcoin so that they can buyback from the dips and those people who will sell in panic will lose a lot of money so be careful wait for some reversals so that you will be safe from these bulltraps.

Yes, the market is going on the problem. That's because the price of Bitcoin has decreased so much in now. When Bitcoin's price increases again, then hopefully everything will be okay again. Because people are worried about Bitcoin's value now too low. When Bitcoin's price increases, it will be all right again. Then people plan to invest on Bitcoin. So we may have to wait a few days.

Obviously yes,bitocoin's value is being dumped by the financial institutions so that most of the people will cut their losses,not knowing these giants are going to buyback from the dips to get more bitcoins that is why they are doing this to trap those weak hands of yours,so we need to hold our bitcoins for use to get save from these market manipulations.

I suspect market manipulation with ethereum and coin from the blockchain but I think the bitcoin price is beyond market manipulation. I am always disappointed with how ethereum is reacting to the market.

There is a judgement that this manipulation is directed to extrusion of small-sized miners. Now their income was also so reduced and if the situation with the prices proceeds further, then mass draining of video cards and asik will go. As a result, in the market there will be only large players who will drive the prices up. So it is only necessary to wait  and bitcoin  will be take new hights.

Its purely manipulation from the big players i am talking about the financial institutions CME and Wallstreet because these candles cannot be manipulated without using millions of dollars! and we should know how these people thinks so that we can prevent further losses when they want to dumo the market,safest thing to do is to hold your coins until the market has finally got bullish trend.

I do think the same as based on my technical analysis,bitcoin's value is being dumped by these big players so they can buy more from the bottom because compressing bitcoin's value will trigger most of the people sell their coins in panic giving these big players some advantage to fully control the situation that is why we need to have some reversal first before we can say it is safe to get in.

Of course it is that is why bitcoin's value cannot break the current resistance line,most of these financial giants are doing it because they can easily buyback from the bottom,giving them more bitcoins at the end of the day that is why i can assured you you wont get anything good with these manipulations that is why it is better to logout from your computer or do something different!

It is indeed manipulated, in my humble opinion bitcoin's value is being manipulated by the big players so that they can buyback from the bottom of to get more bitcoins more than to what they have used to put the market down.That is how the market works and these people wont stop doing this until they have the most of supply of bitcoin,keep holding would be the best move to counter these big players.

I am sure the market is manipulated.
I am wondering why do you thing it is manipulated just now?
The big pumps are also manipulations.
This market is manipulated by the whales like every other one.

I agree with this statement, because in my opinion it is the whales that have been manipulating the market recently.

Of course it is manipulated,you seems to be aware too! technical analysis shows that bitcoin's movements has $50-$80 difference within the candles that is why it only confirms that these financial giants are the ones who are manipulating the price,because he is indeed right you need millions of dollars for you to be able to manipulate a single candle of bitcoin.

this is possible for a short period of time especially bitcoin has an insane growth over the years and possibly the reason for that is they want to buy during dips to collect more bitcoin in order to sell for relatively high price point especially during ATH but in a sense they can't control bitcoin's price for a long time but rather they can only influence it, mostly influencers are big financial institution and personalities.

Yes of course. The market is definitely being manipulated by certain groups in order to direct the market into the direction in which they have planned. At a certain time of the year, strategies in order to decrease market values are being put into place so that these groups could scoop up huge amounts of coins at a lower price. Now if this is not manipulative, I don’t know what is...                

These manipulations will soon come to and end,if these people has already got what they wanted,cheap bitcoins that is why we need to take one step ahead so that these people wont affect our portfolio too much,buying from the dips could have save our asses from these market manipulations that is why i am sticking with my plan,never sell in panic buy more from the dips hold it until the market has recovered and im sure you will get plenty of gains afterwards.

Yeah of course it is,obviously when you have your TA you will find out how bad these manipulations are,you cant even make any move when these people are trying to put bitcoin down and then will buyback at the very bottom so that they can maximize their profits when most of the people are starting to buy cheaper coins  which they are going to dump most of their coins.

We cannot so sure but the probability for this assumption is very high. Anyone who holds huge volume of bitcoin can really manipulate the price and no wonder they can make easy money. Hope, they will start to pump bitcoin again so we can also enjoy this great technology.

That is not an assumption is the fact,the rumors has been confirmed by the insiders from the financial giants,cme and wallstreet are the ones who are the main players in our market,which is why its very easy to conclude who has billions of dollars to manipulate each candles in bitcoin? well of course the financial institutions they might have some plan that is why they are doing this all the time,they might use these supply of bitcoin to manipulate the whole market.

I am 100 percent sure that the whole situation that we are seeing now is created artificially, in order to throw excess people off the ship. As soon as alarmists sell their assets, we will see new peaks!

Yes it is,its obviously manipulated by the these financial institutions  why? because you need millions of dollars to manipulate a single chart of bitcoin and only those giants who has millions of dollars who can do that,CME and Wallstreet and other bigplayers are indeed dumping the bitcoin so that they can buyback from the bottom and only those weak people who does panic selling will lose their money.

I think some of them are but not all of them. We still can fid the right one for us to buy.

With this current market performance i could say it was not manipulate but this is the real current demand of Crypto currencies investment which is very low. I believed that the Market will only be manipulated if their is a sudden spike of the price performance in which in reality it was pump up by the big whales in order to attract real demand investment to help the price to become more stable.

It might be yes but moreover no, because if it is really manipulated then this downfall will not take longer than we are thinking of. But no one really knows what is going on the crypto currency, what we can do is to think of the brighter side so that everything will be back to the way it was.

For me it is yes, the markets are being manipulated right now. I don't know, but in my mind i have a feeling that the market is manipulated.we know the dropping price is continue and continue. The price from the falling down up to rising up. They control the dropping rate and then attract more investor and then more newcomers are come.this is my opinion

I think so because now altcoin prices are down and with altcoin, we can buy altcoins, and we can wait until bitcoin prices go back to stable prices

of course we can all reallize the market is being manipulated now, it is easy to know because the price drop and rise with no pattern at all, the dumps are always stronger than the pumps recently, and everytime te rise reach to an important milestones, it is always be dumped more powerful than the pumps, such as when btc reached nearly 7k$ last few days, it has been dumped heavily down to 6k5$ and took a hard time to rise a gain. We are suffering from the manipulations of big whales that the market will need a long time to recover in the future.

any industry has its own pressure from competitors
and the crypto industry is a danger to paper money, the so-called CORTELL. believes that this is a great danger for paper money and will in every way influence the destruction of the crypto industry

Manipulation comes from everyone, even from ordinary investors. Reducing the emission of the ether, fear for their money from large whales, the summit all this affects and not for the better. The market in this state is very easy to shake up both the worse side and the better.

yes, I thought the same as you and besides that, the dropping is not too fast but slowly its down and then back to high like you said. they make a lot of profit by doing this and they can buy a lot of bitcoin from the down of the price. I cannot imagine how desperate people which buy bitcoin at a high price and I am sure that they still waiting for the increase in the price. but I still believe that the price will increase again.

what makes that manipulation? please explain from which angle you think.
I do not see any major manipulation, but this is a clear scenario planned by some countries and internet giants. one by one began to ban it, this made a big accident. but I think bitcoin can survive. I do not know what will happen later. but if all this has passed, crypto growth will never be stopped.

Only "blind" traders and investors didnt see how invisiable hand try to make price of btc lower and lower. There are a lot of fake news, and bitcoin continue its fall. I believe that there are some "cryptocartel" consists of big banks, social media and politicians which manipulating the cryptomarket.

Its hard to tell if the market is being manipulated by billionaires or group of billionaire. We need some evidence to make our suspicions believable.

I think yes, because the view of the price movement is not normal. like there is a big agenda that will happen soon. the worst is there are people who want crypto destroyed.

I do think so. Someone is behind every crash of market. If you think about it way back few years market is very quite and discreet but suddenly it become mainstream. A very big group of rich people is actually pulling the trigger when and how they will control it. It just like the central bank controlling the economy worldwide.

It is obvious that is being manipulated. Altcoins as a special mention are more manipulated than bitcoin because bitcoins has more widespread in terms of holders. Majority of altcoins are being pump up by whales that is why it is more risky than bitcoin.

There's so many evidence that the market is being manipulated out there, it's a group of billionaire and you can imagine that people with really strong power unite to control something it's really possible, especially if the whole market cap is still below that grup's resources.
Also, recently leaked that some whales dumping btc every 15 minutes so it's real, just read it on medium or steemit, if I recall someone has already addressed this and write it down to their private blog and it's really interesting story to read.

yes it is, there's a lot of people wants to manipulate it, some of it are from government who wants to enter the crypto world. by spreading false information they manipulate its price, and it opens an opportunity for them to invest at a lower value.

I don't care if the market is being manipulated or not.
As long as there are more and more people like me who truly believing in cryptocurrency, it will grow.
Manipulation can only have control of the market for a short period.

absolutely, they're spreading a lot of bad news and they're trying to lower the market value.

For me, yes the market is being manipulated right now. Especially by the big investors, they will going to hold the altcoins in order to control its price. They will let the price to go down, then the small investors will going to panic so they will going to sell even if they were loss. Thats the time for the big investors to buy and sell at a higher price.

I actually think they're indeed. People are using all this fud to push the prices down but there is not really a good reason for mood to be getting worse with crypto regulations coming...

of course all prices go up and down there is manipulation from certain parties to take advantage. therefore they can make a profit for them and make the price changes

Absolutely, they keep manipulating the market through the Pump and Dump, fake news, also the FUD, they are using the supply of Bitcoin to manipulate other coins.  I just hope things become back to normal before its goes out of hand.

The market has been manipulated for a long time. Large tycoons want to dominate this market since they realized that bitcoin can make them very rich. Unfortunately we can not resist this, just to adapt...

I think the market is now in control of the so-called Whales, So it's frightening to invest now because big investors are gaining profit. The best thing to do is to get along with them and also feel what their end points are.

My opinion is that the market is always manipulated. Whales are turning the market around the way they need to make more money from us.

I also feel that way, something weird with the price of crypto now.
as its price is deliberately dropped for a particular interest, then returned to normal

I do not think of conspiracy theories like that, but if what you think is true that obviously needs a lot of money for it.

Certainly, I think that the manipulation process is taking place today. I am worried that the big investors are in business in some states aside. The market has come to such a situation that it is almost impossible to manipulate some crypto currency with one person or three to four people. Certain types of crypto coins can be manipulated by controlling very low budgets, but knowledgeable investors do not fall into this trap easily.

the only thing that crosses my mind about markets being manipulated is what is by big whales to gain their profit. their big funds are used to buy coins when the prices are down that makes the supplies are decreasing and the prices are increasing. by this time, they sell their coins, then the prices will be increasing again. they also use news in what they are doing.
prices manipulations.

market loneliness of the transaction is caused by several factors, especially the issue of bitcoin will collapse because many countries can not accept its existence.

If you would say the market now is manipulated by a single or a group of people, then I would disagree.
What I think is that the market is indirectly affected by malicious news about regulations, scam accusations and fraud. Maybe if the case is a group of people making these news, then, it's another story.

I'm sure that the market manipulates the crowd, and makes it so that people sell their coins in a panic  :(

I would like to say most probably the altcoins but not to wholeness of the market place. One altcoin can be manipulated by the big whales. Just incase it is unexpectedly happened that all altcoins were manipulated by the big whales holders then it can be the market will turn to red or it can also be in green in some ways.

I think the crypto markets have been manipulated from the start and u wouldn't get this kind of volatility you see in crypto markets without any manipulation. In fact I would say that this manipulation is good for the markets as this is what attracts everyone to the crypto world.

I think it's true, the market of course can be manipulated, because as we know when google, facebook and twitter do banned ads ico, then all market prices drop drastically, it means it could be google, facebook and twitter do something new that supports crypto so the market price will jump up again

I think there's are some people, who are trying to manipulate the market and some are trying to regulate the market for their own benefits. But, how much they try, they cannot totally take control the market.

Many coins/token grown in right time and cannot bring down easily.

I am sure that the market is very much manipulated by large players, and they are trying to shake the newcomers

the coin market is huge and needs a lot of money to manipulate this coin market so I think this is only part of the factor that causes the coin price is not good right now and I think this condition will soon be over and the coin prices go up again

The markets are always manipulated, and those of the cryptocurrencies more than the others: firstly, because there are whales that alone can move prices at will, and then because the investors of the crypto are inexperienced and tend to believe all the statements.

I do agree with you. All the markets are always manipulated including the market of crypto. You cannot do anything with it. Just be patient and wait for the time when the currencies will start going up.

There is a high probability that markets are manipulated. I know traders who will confirm this.

Probably being manipulated from the ballers club ;) or let's call whales. The market will continue to manipulated but if it's become regulated and market cap might be reaching to 4 -5 trillion USD easily in a very short term. The coin market has a very big potential. It will recover end of the year. Try to invest more and stay ready to fly to the MOON !

I think the markets are not manipulating prices. but a group of people may well manipulate prices on the market

Somehow the guys on top have the power to manipulate the prices and the market since they owe most of the coins

i thought the market is manipulated the most of the time. it is an unregulated market. the big whales can play with the market so they want, or?

of course it is manipulated, but not 100%. those manipulators know very well the psichology of the mass. now they wait before most of weak hands sell their coins and then start again!

I think that yes, there is a place for manipulation, a lot of negativity is on simple news that turns out to be a fake.

Yep! I believe every market is manipulated and cryptocurrency is no exception.
What we can do is promote our projects, and try and be appealing to them, and try to influence them with product.
So that the market manipulator will be on our side.

Yes, I am sure the market is manipulated right now because those who are holding most of the coins dictate the market

In one way or another, but a certain manipulation is naturally present. Foreign policy and domestic policy play a role here. Banks, currencies, markets..everything has a connection, hence the manipulation.

I agree with you. I consider that the last months happen manipulations in the market. Such big falling is favorable to someone. But I hope that the situation will improve in the nearest future. Today is good time for buy and holding them. After such falling there has to be growth!

Of course, the market is manipulated, now when the crypto currency is not official in many countries of the world, it does not yet have a global value - it's just the manipulation of large players. While these manipulations happen you can earn good money and no longer work at your life. Invite all your friends take part at this big "party" while we have time

I think its manipulated of some whales that have a huge amount of coin it's easy to them to manipulate the market. And also market are manipulated if exchanges that we use.

Do you know any market that is not manipulated lol?
Crypto is ideal for manipulations.

but the possibility of this manipulation makes the price affordable for new investors / whales, so there is a strong trigger for them to buy more, although it seems to hurt us, but the effect is the possibility of bitcoin rising higher in a shorter time, I believe the positive symptoms will start at in April because the bagholder also began to saturate with the situation continues to stagnate downwards.

Of course they are manipulated, but that is the case 90% of the time. The probability of this is so through the roof, especially with the hype that crypto has gained for the last year.

The market is manipulated not only through speculation but also through marketing mechanisms. The "war with the crypto" that unleashed the whales of social media is also one of the factors

The most obvious example of market manipulation is Bitmain's influence and movements. It becomes very obvious if you watch the movements of wallet holdings and addresses associated with Bitmain.

I am thinking that crypto market cannot be manipulated by the few of individuals or even groups or organizations so therefore some articles were trying to prove that there is a possibility that the crypto market were being manipulated in so many ways until today.
And Yes, I do believe there are some players somewhere in between each points.
I don't think they're trying to sell into lower value intentionally but they could manipulate the crypto market by exploiting the investors reactions through FUDs, like publishing fake news just recently India is banning Crypto Exchange while they're actually not.
situations like that is also an act of market manipulation, I believe.

the majority of the crypto investors are more sensitive in most cases just like exploiting the reactions of dropping Bitcoin's price value through publishing fake news and articles on mainstream websites where people subscribed the most.
recently, they published that India is banning Crypto Exchanges while they're actually not so days before the correct publication - Bitcoin had dropped dramatically and today Bitcoin struggles to get back up as it's lying on around $7,000 for more than 6 weeks now.

Cryptocurrency is so volatile that every factor and aspect plays a role in the movement of the values of its assets. At the same time, it also controls the trends and movements of the market. So, it is hard to actually if there are people or entities behind the market that controls, although I think every market has those people who has the capacity to control the market because of the amount of asset they hold, I think that it's a different case for this market because it can't be controlled by only a few like in some markets. So even if it is being controlled, I think a majority of it is still being affected by other things that is out of one's control even if he has a large amount of coins or even money at his disposal.