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Title: CoinIndex.org
Post by: Scott J on November 01, 2013, 08:52:08 PM
This thread is to announce the launch of my website

www.coinindex.org (http://www.coinindex.org)

Its aim is to list every relevant Bitcoin website on a single page and rank them in order of quality.

The nature of this website makes feedback invaluable - please e-mail suggest@coinindex.org with:

  • suggestions for websites that should be included
  • reasons why a currently listed website shouldn't be included
  • categories that I have forgotten (or not got round to doing yet)
     
I hope that CoinIndex.org will be somewhere where you would link newbies to as an introduction to everything Bitcoin.

Also, please report any bugs/typos/broken links.

Many thanks  :)


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: Martijnvdc on November 01, 2013, 09:15:07 PM
Nice!

That's actually a pretty useful website.
You could add faucets, but that would overwhelm the list quite a bit...


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: Barnacle_Ed on November 01, 2013, 09:19:03 PM
I really like the look of this. Very well done.


A suggestion: Might be worthwhile to add "job boards" or something similar as a category, since I don't believe sites like workforcrypto (http://workforcrypto.com/) fit into any of the current categories.


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: Vod on November 01, 2013, 09:42:01 PM
Nice!  I like the directory a lot!

If you are looking for advice, I'd suggest trimming vertical just a bit, so it fits on a standard monitor (1050 or 1080px) without vertical scrolling.  Right now it scrolls just a bit to display the footer, which is a shame.


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: Otoh on November 01, 2013, 09:59:37 PM
Excellent! Added it to my intro info site, good work!


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: Scott J on November 02, 2013, 06:11:11 AM
Thanks for the kind words.

I think I will add a small section for the best faucets and also try to find a way to include sites like workforcrypto  - Free BTC & Earn BTC categories could work.

Thanks for the tip, Vod, I will look into that.

Cheers, Otoh  8)





Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: b!z on November 02, 2013, 08:54:54 AM
The CoinIndex.org design looks very organized. Have you added Bitcoin Reviewer (http://bitcoinreviewer.com/) yet?

It's a free site which provides unbiased & accurate info on Bitcoin gambling sites. Hopefully, we'll be able to prevent readers from losing Bitcoins to rogue casinos, and scams.

I think News or Reference could be a good category, although we don't have many news articles up yet.


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: Scott J on November 02, 2013, 02:30:23 PM
The CoinIndex.org design looks very organized. Have you added Bitcoin Reviewer (http://bitcoinreviewer.com/) yet?

It's a free site which provides unbiased & accurate info on Bitcoin gambling sites. Hopefully, we'll be able to prevent readers from losing Bitcoins to rogue casinos, and scams.

I think News or Reference could be a good category, although we don't have many news articles up yet.
Thanks, that's a really useful website.

I will find a category for it.



Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: playtin on November 02, 2013, 03:13:02 PM
Everything at a glance, very very nice site :)
Can you please add our casino? https://playt.in (https://playt.in)
Thanks


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: lclc on November 02, 2013, 04:57:13 PM
Hi, looks good.

Missing websites:

coinmap.org
bitmine.ch
btclook.com
fetchtx.info
bitcoinaverage.com
coined.com
letstalkbitcoin.com
bitcoinexaminer.org
justcoin.com

 :)


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: mobile on November 02, 2013, 05:31:50 PM
Nice, well done. Bookmarking this, tweeting this & adding this to delicious  8) This is robust.
I like how you included all the icons. Did you hard code this or did you borrow a framework? Nice work to say the least. Cheers...


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: Scott J on November 02, 2013, 05:41:04 PM
Yet again, thank you all for the nice comments and suggestions  :)

Nice, well done. Bookmarking this, tweeting this & adding this to delicious  8) This is robust.
I like how you included all the icons. Did you hard code this or did you borrow a framework? Nice work to say the least. Cheers...
I appreciate the support!

I hadn't made a website for over four years and I was a complete newbie then, so it was fun learning!

I used a very basic template (header, body and footer) and then did the rest in notepad. I borrowed the idea for the tables/icons from another site of a different genre - as soon as I saw it I knew Bitcoin could do with something similar.

I plan to update this regularly keeping it relevant and I'm always open to suggestions or ideas.


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: Scott J on November 02, 2013, 05:54:20 PM
I thinking flagging sites as "warning" is a very opinion based and not what a directory should be. If the site is clearly a scam then why would you have it on your site anyway?
This is something I was hoping people would debate.

Taking Mt.Gox as an example, I would hate to refer someone to them, only for them to make a fiat deposit and been unable to withdraw it. This is something I feel they should be warned about.

As BFL are shipping and Virtex's ToS are quite clear then I can see an argument for removing those warnings.

The warnings on securities and derivatives can be easily justified, I think.

If a site is a scam, I wouldn't list it - I don't think any of the sites on there are scams.


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: gweedo on November 02, 2013, 06:01:17 PM
I thinking flagging sites as "warning" is a very opinion based and not what a directory should be. If the site is clearly a scam then why would you have it on your site anyway?
This is something I was hoping people would debate.

Taking Mt.Gox as an example, I would hate to refer someone to them, only for them to make a fiat deposit and been unable to withdraw it. This is something I feel they should be warned about.

As BFL are shipping and Virtex's ToS are quite clear then I can see an argument for removing those warnings.

The warnings on securities and derivatives can be easily justified, I think.

If a site is a scam, I wouldn't list it = I don't think any of the sites on there are scams.

So this is a review site, not a directory, you are talking about two different sites now. Cause I could say something about most of those sites, that should be a warning. Also people should do their own research, as you claim this is a directory, if it was reviewer then I can see the warning.


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: Scott J on November 02, 2013, 06:12:58 PM
I thinking flagging sites as "warning" is a very opinion based and not what a directory should be. If the site is clearly a scam then why would you have it on your site anyway?
This is something I was hoping people would debate.

Taking Mt.Gox as an example, I would hate to refer someone to them, only for them to make a fiat deposit and been unable to withdraw it. This is something I feel they should be warned about.

As BFL are shipping and Virtex's ToS are quite clear then I can see an argument for removing those warnings.

The warnings on securities and derivatives can be easily justified, I think.

If a site is a scam, I wouldn't list it = I don't think any of the sites on there are scams.

So this is a review site, not a directory, you are talking about two different sites now. Cause I could say something about most of those sites, that should be a warning. Also people should do their own research, as you claim this is a directory, if it was reviewer then I can see the warning.
In that case then maybe it is a hybrid.

It is definitely not going to be a simple directory that adds every site that wants to be listed. Quality is important. 

Of course this is always going to be subjective, but I am always open to feedback. Ultimately I would make the final decision unless other people get involved with the website.

In terms of the warnings - I guess I should come up with a methodology that brings as much consistency as possible. 


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: mobile on November 02, 2013, 06:42:16 PM
Yet again, thank you all for the nice comments and suggestions  :)

Nice, well done. Bookmarking this, tweeting this & adding this to delicious  8) This is robust.
I like how you included all the icons. Did you hard code this or did you borrow a framework? Nice work to say the least. Cheers...
I appreciate the support!

I hadn't made a website for over four years and I was a complete newbie then, so it was fun learning!

I used a very basic template (header, body and footer) and then did the rest in notepad. I borrowed the idea for the tables/icons from another site of a different genre - as soon as I saw it I knew Bitcoin could do with something similar.

I plan to update this regularly keeping it relevant and I'm always open to suggestions or ideas.
Well it looks great, ive tested in a number of different browsers & it displays flawlessly. Are you continuing to code in notepad? In my early days (and im not saying im a vertern or anything :P) I was using notepad but then I found Sublime text. http://www.sublimetext.com/ Check it out, you will be glad you did. Free version is the full version except about every 5-7 saves on a file you have to decline donating. Anyways good job and keep up the good work.

I thinking flagging sites as "warning" is a very opinion based and not what a directory should be. If the site is clearly a scam then why would you have it on your site anyway?
This is something I was hoping people would debate.

Taking Mt.Gox as an example, I would hate to refer someone to them, only for them to make a fiat deposit and been unable to withdraw it. This is something I feel they should be warned about.

As BFL are shipping and Virtex's ToS are quite clear then I can see an argument for removing those warnings.

The warnings on securities and derivatives can be easily justified, I think.

If a site is a scam, I wouldn't list it = I don't think any of the sites on there are scams.

So this is a review site, not a directory, you are talking about two different sites now. Cause I could say something about most of those sites, that should be a warning. Also people should do their own research, as you claim this is a directory, if it was reviewer then I can see the warning.

A couple of thoughts on this. Gweedo, Im not coming at you. I see your point in defining a review site versus a directory site. But if this guy wants to think outside the box build a site geared towards being a high quality directory site and then he wants to add his own research & assessments in the form of a review then so be it. Its his contribution to the community. A good one at that.
I feel as if this is a relevant example:btct.co listed questionable securities but placed a warning stating to trade with caution & to do your due diligence because there was a general consensus that agreements were not being upheld or scammy behavior or what have you.And we all know that btct.co didnt cross the line as a hybrid review site / stock exchange. (i just noticed i reiterated a few things that were already mentioned :-\)
On coinindex I see that there is a warning next to Butterfly labs. This is with good cause. Is BFL a full blown scam? Well in my opinion, no. A percentage of people have received their purchased items but a percentage of people that have not. Anyways, this has turned into a full blown rant so im closing this  ;D Im just saying nothing wrong with thinking outside the box, not building something typical and adding a "warning" is opinion based as we all have opinions and as a webmaster of the site they are entitled to display their warning.


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: mobile on November 02, 2013, 06:46:36 PM
Gweedo, I just saw that you have a BTC related directory so it makes sense why you have strong opinions on the matter and perhaps a more developed idealogy behind running a directory then myself but my above post remains the same. Cheers gentlemen have a good weekend ;D


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: gweedo on November 02, 2013, 06:55:05 PM
A couple of thoughts on this. Gweedo, Im not coming at you. I see your point in defining a review site versus a directory site. But if this guy wants to think outside the box build a site geared towards being a high quality directory site and then he wants to add his own research & assessments in the form of a review then so be it. Its his contribution to the community. A good one at that.

He didn't think outside the box, we have so many directory sites, it is an over created market in this community. I am just pointing out a flaw in what he said and how the site works.

Gweedo, I just saw that you have a BTC related directory so it makes sense why you have strong opinions on the matter and perhaps a more developed idealogy behind running a directory then myself but my above post remains the same. Cheers gentlemen have a good weekend ;D

*Disclaimer I don't run the site in my sig. I just developed it, and as part of the contract to build it, I decided to put it in my sig. It is actually getting replaced by another url soon. ;) *

Also I again I could care less, just pointing out a flaw in the thinking. This is what forums are about talking out problems and debating views.


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: mobile on November 02, 2013, 07:26:09 PM
A couple of thoughts on this. Gweedo, Im not coming at you. I see your point in defining a review site versus a directory site. But if this guy wants to think outside the box build a site geared towards being a high quality directory site and then he wants to add his own research & assessments in the form of a review then so be it. Its his contribution to the community. A good one at that.

He didn't think outside the box, we have so many directory sites, it is an over created market in this community. I am just pointing out a flaw in what he said and how the site works.

Gweedo, I just saw that you have a BTC related directory so it makes sense why you have strong opinions on the matter and perhaps a more developed idealogy behind running a directory then myself but my above post remains the same. Cheers gentlemen have a good weekend ;D

*Disclaimer I don't run the site in my sig. I just developed it, and as part of the contract to build it, I decided to put it in my sig. It is actually getting replaced by another url soon. ;) *

Also I again I could care less, just pointing out a flaw in the thinking. This is what forums are about talking out problems and debating views.

Valid point on the over-saturation of web directories as a whole . Google even specifically stated the suggestion of if you run a web directory, you should be focusing on a specific "genre" pointing to strong sites as the OP seems to be doing. I only said "thinking outside the box" because the OP was including his opinion (or general consensus opinion) along side of a site versus a straigh up directory. At the end of the day I guess its just null and small talk. 

Kudos on your contract dev gig. Looks good too. Ahh yes the beautiful of the internet and internet forums in debating in search of logic. Will look forward to see you around the forums then and see your new work. Cheers...


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: Scott J on November 02, 2013, 07:38:04 PM
I am glad of the debate as it helps me understand how to make the site as useful as possible.

I've just added:

-BTCLook
-BitcoinAverage
-Bitcoin Examiner
-Plus500


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: lclc on November 03, 2013, 08:18:43 AM
I am glad of the debate as it helps me understand how to make the site as useful as possible.

I've just added:

-BTCLook
-BitcoinAverage
-Bitcoin Examiner
-Plus500


How do you choose which ones you add? I don't think one of those I listed are less relevant than these.


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: Scott J on November 03, 2013, 05:22:42 PM
How do you choose which ones you add? I don't think one of those I listed are less relevant than these.
There is no set criteria yet, though I may develop some basic framework.

Some reasons to not immediately include a site: potential scam; other listed sites do the same thing better; don't currently have a suitable category; I don't currently have the time to properly assess the website...

I went through all of your suggestions to some extent, here were my initial thoughts:

  • coinmap.org - Good, useful site. Need to add a category for it... other sites may do the same job better? I would need to research. Added to my 'to be reviewed again' list.

    bitmine.ch - Mining company so suitable category for it. I need to check how reputable they are. Added to my 'to be reviewed again' list.

    btclook.com - Very impressive site, suprised I hadn't seen it before. Added.

    fetchtx.info - Good at what it does, but lacks features of traditional block explorers. Not sure if it has any benefits over currently listed sites. Could be advised otherwise?

    bitcoinaverage.com - Good niche site. I anticipate that space will be at a premium before too long and there are other quality sites for market data at the moment.

    coined.com - Similar to the last two sites in some ways, but may be able to find a suitable space as it certainly useful. Added to the 'to be reviewed again' list.

    letstalkbitcoin.com - Looked like an interesting site. I will have to listen to the shows and find a category for it. Added to the list to come back to it.

    bitcoinexaminer.org- Regularly updated with good content. Suitable category. Added.

    justcoin.com - An exchange that I know nothing about so will have to research properly and see if it can be included. Added to list.

As you can see it's not an exact science and my limited time can make things a bit slow, however I plan to work on the site daily  :)


Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
Post by: lclc on November 03, 2013, 05:56:07 PM
    fetchtx.info - Good at what it does, but lacks features of traditional block explorers. Not sure if it has any benefits over currently listed sites. Could be advised otherwise?
    Well I think it's useful for developers to analyze a transaction (not available so detailed on the traditional block explorers).
    Maybe add a new category anyway with links to Bitcoin libraries, websites etc. relevant for developers?

    bitcoinaverage.com - Good niche site. I anticipate that space will be at a premium before too long and there are other quality sites for market data at the moment.
    Looks like you've added this one.

    coined.com - Similar to the last two sites in some ways, but may be able to find a suitable space as it certainly useful. Added to the 'to be reviewed again' list.
    I'd add it to market data, as it shows marked data.

    letstalkbitcoin.com - Looked like an interesting site. I will have to listen to the shows and find a category for it. Added to the list to come back to it.
    Quite famous I think.

    justcoin.com - An exchange that I know nothing about so will have to research properly and see if it can be included. Added to list.[/li][/list]
    Mostly known in Norway afaik, but interesting since it has zero fee.
    As you can see it's not an exact science and my limited time can make things a bit slow, however I plan to work on the site daily  :)

    I've added my opinion in green. Thanks for you work :)

    BTW: Does such an index also exist for local communities? So everybody can check if there is a local Bitcoin group meeting regularly and how many people meet, that would be cool.[/list]


    Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
    Post by: Scott J on November 03, 2013, 06:06:29 PM
    Thanks for your comments, I like the idea of a category for developers.

    I forgot that I added bitcoinaverage.com! :-[

    I'm going to go ahead and add coined.com too, as they are both equally useful IMO. Maybe there will be a different category for them in the future so they can stand out.

    I've never seen an index for local communities, that would be cool. If I had the information, I could have a category for them and then list US,EU,etc., and then use a pop-up box for the list of communities in that area.


    Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
    Post by: Scott J on November 03, 2013, 08:20:10 PM
    I've just added:

    -DiceNow

    Also made a post to reddit:
    http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ptl54/coinindexorg_a_list_of_every_bitcoin_related/


    Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
    Post by: mobile on November 03, 2013, 09:43:49 PM
    I am sure that you already considered this but for sake of discussion:
    With your limited time, perhaps in the future you would add a site submission form (with a captcha) to streamline things. Although of negative side of this is having to weed out submission of sites that are unrelated and/or low quality. Cheers...


    Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
    Post by: Scott J on November 04, 2013, 07:15:06 PM
    I am sure that you already considered this but for sake of discussion:
    With your limited time, perhaps in the future you would add a site submission form (with a captcha) to streamline things. Although of negative side of this is having to weed out submission of sites that are unrelated and/or low quality. Cheers...
    This would definitely streamline things, but would remove the editorial side if the sites were added immediately.

    If they were added to a pool that would be reviewed and then automatically listed if accepted.... this would be a really cool feature and it would certainly save me a lot of time! Something to think about for sure  :)



    Title: Re: CoinIndex.org
    Post by: Scott J on November 04, 2013, 07:18:05 PM
    Sites added:

    -Bitcoin Video Casino
    -Coinboard

    At someone's suggestion, I have created a twitter account.

    I will tweet when I add new sites/categories and when there is other site news :)

    https://twitter.com/CoinIndex