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Update 2013-12-11 - Chilis and Sunzis back in stock. At this time only twin turbo and rackmount version are available.

One of my associates has assembled multiple "Sunzi Miners", each consisting of 6 Chili miners on a stainless board, or a rack mountable frame. He is also willing to part out the individual Chili miners.

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200gh/s Sunzi Miner - Includes PSU - 6.6 BTC

2 options available

6 units on Rack-mountable frame:

https://i.imgur.com/omAiYHTl.jpg

--or--

Individual chili miners with Twin Turbo cooling - 1.10 BTC per unit


All units fully assembled.




Payment address:
1K5tRbAtfKgJ999jew5Y1uRcn4h1VUaETr
Free Shipping to Continental US

Packed "Sunzi Rack"

https://i.imgur.com/PA0us93l.jpg

Ill offer 1btc each .. more realistic =)

You got it, give me a day to remove 5 of 8 ASIC chips from each board and they are all yours ;)

What's power usage? What's chips are used in it?

Can you paste cgminer results from p2pool? I would like to see it's is designed properly and it's stopping on LP/work restart signal as it should.

Price lowered with exchange rate. These are BFL chips. Haven't tried p2pool with them. ~180 watts should be the average, although I haven't tested with a killa-watt.

Thanks. Can you please point them to lenny.dnsd.me:9332 any user any password for couple of minutes?

ill put in an offer of 1.75

Sorry, price is firm.

Can you please check it on p2pool for couple minutes, please? Using link I provided earlier on.

You could also use nastyfans.org:9332 and use your Bitcoin payout address as your username if you wanted to get paid for your P2Pool testing. ;)

I'll set up a local node shortly.

Local p2pool node for about an hour.

https://i.imgur.com/9hX2cVBl.png (http://imgur.com/9hX2cVB)

Just set it up so I haven't verified the whole p2pool chain yet, not sure if that matters...

https://i.imgur.com/tATyaeRl.png (http://imgur.com/tATyaeR)

hmm, the numbers don't add up with your HW errors.  are those just not even submitted to the pool?

i would like to see it on an existing p2pool node, lenny's is fine

if the latency is too high there, you could try nogleg.net or zevus.nogleg.com and I'd give you any BTC back if it actually did take a fee, those are in US rather than Europe

Firmware on the Chilis enables engines that BFL would not. This produces a higher hashrate but more HW errors. I'll hit someone else's node tonight.

OK.

Price now 1.69 a piece with free shipping. I let my node download all verified shares and have been running against p2pool for 2 days. Here's the latest screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/6NdiHwll.png (http://imgur.com/6NdiHwl)

https://i.imgur.com/IkAkeCUl.png (http://imgur.com/IkAkeCU)

hmm, i remember talking to you about that avalon unit before, but I don't remember where you said you were located...  for some reason I'm thinking it was in the dallas area?

i might be interested in all four if it was pickup in person (obv would want a discounted price)

I will offer 3 Bitcoins for 2 units delivery to Portugal

hi i am interested in 2 sends from the European Union?

I can do local pickup in Dallas area.

I've lowered the price and added a new offering. "Sunzi Miner" - 6 Chili units mounted to a board.

What is special about the sunzi? It cast 6x the price, and basically you just get a few hex spacers and a drilled shett of stainless steel for mounting? any psu included?

I will offer 1BTC for a single chili, plus the shipping to Toronto, Ontario

OK .... for a fully assembled Sunzi how many coins today?  Then ... after that, how many coins per Chilli?

H@shKraker

PSU is included with the Sunzi. 6.9 BTC + shipping. Price is firm.

There is no minimum purchase amount. You can buy just one chili for 1.15 BTC + shipping or you can buy them in groups of 6 on a board, "Sunzi Miners", with a free PSU included.

how much is shipping to 97206? If its good, count me in for one of these!!!! 200gh/s?
Whens soonest they can be shipped?

Also, what PSU comes w/ them and how are they controlled?

Still no sale outside the U.S. ?

There shouldn't be any problem shipping these outside of the US, we'll just need to work out shipping costs.

can I get a reply to my pm or post on this ? ...

you can answer my question?
shiping eu?

I'll post shipping prices shortly. Shipping will be flat rate for continental US. Local pickup in DFW is also an option.

Rack Mountable Suzi Miner is now an option. Shipping is .05 BTC per unit for USPS priority.

https://i.imgur.com/omAiYHTl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PA0us93l.jpg

PM-ed u / please reply

Shipping now free to continental US

Hey,

I'd like to order an individual, shipping to Toronto, Canada.

Whats next?

Add .05 for international shipping, send payment to the address in the original post, and PM me your shipping address.

u should lower your prices imo ... ~7k USD for 200 GH ... what am i missing here ? ???

What you are missing is out, but only if you don't take advantage of the offer. A 200gh/s miner will likely generate 8-12 BTC ($8-12k at today's price) over the next 3 months. Prices are in BTC as the unit will mine a relative amount of BTC, regardless of the value of BTC.

when can we buy (meaning when will they ship??) ... also whats the power usage roughly?

They are available now. Shipping immediately.

Ok, what do I need to do to buy one from you?

Hello crazy - I would love to buy one shipped to europe ! - Can i have your email or i can private message you

yeah, Im interested as well but never bought anything from crazyguy so I have no idea of the procedure and noones getting back to me about it =/

Pay to the address in the original post. 1.15 * the amount of Chilis you want. Each Sunzi is comprised of 6 Chilis. Free shipping to continental US. Add .05 BTC per chili for international shipping.

and how do you know where to ship them??? and how do you know that 6.9btc was from me?...

You'll need to PM me your shipping address. You provide the transaction ID for the bitcoin transaction. You need to be prepared to sign your sending address in the event I ask for the signature.

Can you ship today if I order now?

Also Im interested in the non rack version, any chance you can pm me some more detailed pictures of it... hard to make out exactly what it is in the picture in OP...
Whats the temps w/ the particular coolers on the non rackmount version? Thanks

No, post office closes shortly and it will also be closed tomorrow for thanksgiving. Any orders tonight or tomorrow will be shipped Friday.

What method do you ship and where from?

How much for the whole rack.  Local pickup in Dallas. Coins on Delivery in person.

? (The contents of the rack.  You can keep the actual rack...)

can an rpi run one of these 6.9btc rigs?

I bought two of these Sunzi racks from CrazyGuy. Transaction was smooth as silk.

I brought them home and plugged them into a PC thats got other miners on it and it found the devices to be Bitforce SHA256's, downloaded its own drivers and all was well. Started BFGminer and all was working as noted. I wasnt getting quite 200gh's at first but it came around after a while.

I did end up flashing them to the latest firmware version and they seemed to speed up a bit.

This is the wattage usage from one rack.

https://i.imgur.com/IBtdnFm.jpg

Heres the rack.

https://i.imgur.com/An2vTf3.jpg

Couple of screenshots of BFGminer

https://i.imgur.com/Nit5WQM.png
https://i.imgur.com/MvVImVS.png

FWIW I second guessed this purchase after seeing that email from KNC. But, I thought that I could save a few BTC now and hope to get the miner from KNC 2nd quarter next year or spend the BTC NOW and get the hashing power NOW.

I'm very happy with my decision to buy now. I will be buying more from CrazyGuy for sure!!

Matt

very cool.... I wonder how many of these things are left =/
Sucks the HW error rate is so high, all wasted energy right there =(

Really need an update, Need to buy!

Same here....

Hey guys, plenty of Chilis left. Did you have specific questions?

Just got my other 6 Chili's online... Flashed them, power cycled them and up and hashing in BFGminer.

just sent payment for a sunzi miner... sending you pm w/ details

Do these miners use the regular BitForce_SC firmware? Or basically the same but just modded to run all engines?

Is this some type of bad joke? He offerent .15 less btc than what they cost... how is that equal to 5 asic chips? I wouldnt send money to someone who doesnt understand customer service honestly...

Settle down now.. Check the date in your quote.

Sunzis are sold out for now fellas. Thanks for your orders. I will update if more become available.

Does this mean that the miners will not last as long?

No HW errors just means a particular engine is less reliable in spitting accurate results.... but such errors should not degrade the actual physical chip.

my 4 boards arrived today.

sadly i only have 1 cable to power these  :'(    sabatoshed all the others in the past fpga days


have 3 on the way that i thought would have been here but seem to be stuck in Idaho at ups


the board that is up and mining seems to be doing just fine

Had a chance to put the two Sunzi's I bought into the retired sound rack that I plan on using....

I know that BE's aren't worth a hill o' beans these days but I figure any more hash power the better. What else would I do with em? eBay? LOL!

Getting close to 450gh's with this rig.... Too bad that WinBox gets pissed if it has to reset. WTH???

https://i.imgur.com/juZXEbD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6aUsfBZ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HsKnGkS.jpg

Very nice setup, time to move to Linux!

Yeah, working on it. I need to figure out two things...

#1. How to make BFGMiner start at bootup on its own.
#2. Install VNC or some other remote control software so I can get into it from another computer.

I already have the linux (Ubuntu) machine up and running. Just need to figure out those two things above and I'm all set.

And wouldn't you know it Windows installed new updates this morning (3AM) and the computer was hung in a reset loop. Stupid machine.

#1. probably make a daemon or startup script for it.
#2. SSH =)


Im anxiously awaiting my sunzi ... got the stainless steel version and I will have to assemble it all when it arrives ... wanted safer shipping method hehe
Ill take pix!

LOL! I have no idea as to what either of those are nor how to create them. :)

I'll figure it out.

My sunzi arrived today, well half of it... waiting on the metal display piece still =P .. damn usps!

Got them all put together and working great at work...
Avg hashrate is 203GH pool side .. and seeing only bout 5.5% HW errors .. after couple hours!
Temps are between 55-60C as read by bfgminer .. and this is a reasonably warm room... cant wait to see what it does in my place which is ambient of 47F =P
These things rock!

+1.

Mine have been running great since I got them connected to a PC that wants to behave!

quick update here, got the rig home(still waiting on 2nd shipment for the display piece...rofl) anyways, its set up in the cold room.
Its hashing @ 225GH avg, consumes around 1280w @ wall - HW 7%
Each chili is doing between 35-39GH/s - temps in the 50-60C's

Its fucking beautiful!

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z384/GenTarkin/Mining/sunzi_zps9e38b5d0.jpg

Sunzis and Chilis are back in stock. Free shipping to continental US.

Same price?

How many available?

Lowered to 1.10 BTC per chili, 6.6 BTC per Sunzi

I'll post when we're running low.

man, Id love to grab another sunzi but given the latest diff increase and a week of previous diff, made all the difference in the world between a fair pricepoint original 6.9btc and the now ripoff price of 6.6btc....
Id offer 4btc for a sunzi...

Come on now General, I know you didn't make 2.9 BTC in the last week. Now drop and give me 50.

In all seriousness, this is still a great deal. I wish I bought a pre-order Jupiter a few months ago and I wish I bought a few thousand bitcoins when they were worth a few pennies. You can't invest in the past, but you can still invest in the future.

I'm with GenTarkin on this one. I understand what you're saying, based on the last 90 days.. however, I don't expect the price to jump the same 10x factor again any time soon.

200GH is roughly 0.09 btc/day at today's diff. Assuming you get the whole month of December without any adjustments, that's still only 1.82 btc. Way too much hardware is dropping in the next 60 days to make 6 BTC a good price.. that's roughly $28/GH.. (Which is still WAY better than the $100/GH people are paying for USB sticks, I'll give you that)

http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/a/b635d89f05

Value of Bitcoin doesn't make a difference. If Bitcoin is worth $10,000 next month, you still paid 6.6 BTC for a Sunzi which would get you
.1107 BTC per 24 hours at today's difficulty
.0914 per 24 hours at 1.1 Billion
.0745 per 24 hours at 1.35 Billion

Now I'm not saying that those are the next 2 difficulties, I have no idea how many companies are going to hit their targets. That would put you at half payoff in a little over a month though.

yeah I probably didnt, that was counting my other ASICs but.... this was simply an offer =) meeting in the middle is fair.
Heres a diff projection which I used based on being able to guestimat a shelf... and I can tell you 6.9btc last week including before the holiday was very fair. 6.6btc 10days later after a 25% diff increase ... is not remotely close to fair. Thats a 5% decrease in price on something that became 25% less valueable =P

Heres a hopefull projection on it:
http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=908350862.43702&dcosts=6600&diff_mincrease=30&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=200000&diff_mincreasedecrease=5&btcusd=1000&dpowcon=0&btcusd_mincrease=1&pcost=0.11&calcweeks=32&dleadtime=0&action=calc#

6.9btc last week didnt look nearly as bad ...(first miner purchase) ... w/ same settings.

That's prob a bit more accurate than mining.genesisblock, which assumes never ending exponential growth. I'm still not sure we'll be adding a billion difficulty per month per jump by May but I'd say that's a worst case. In that event, 6 months break even is nothing to scoff at.

Here's a link for some of you folks looking for more traditional investments. ;) "Zions Direct" is offering a 1% 6 month CD with $10k minimum deposit.

http://www.bankrate.com/funnel/cd-investments/cd-investment-results.aspx?ic_id=CDI_compare_rates_module:cd.aspx:14&local=false&prods=14

hehe nice one ... but traditional investment margins dont exactly apply to bitcoin mining ...
Diff will definitely be near what you stated, if not way before then, given that cointerra has a working prototype now and hashfast is right around the corner.. diff will skyrocket soon enough.
Im willin to bet u and/or who ur selling these for are getting all the profit you can now and reinvisting to up and coming hardware. Im just sayin it would be nice to see a more fair price tag on these.
I might be willin to do like 5btc... =P
But, Im sure there will be others sucking them up at the prices you are wanting.

4.25 is more reasonable as that is what the Antminer S1 is selling for at this time.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=364342.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=364342.0) The antminer has the same hash rate as 6 chilis, takes up less space and uses less power, and are currently shipping.

I'd be in for one Sunzi @ 4.25-4.5. The antminer doesn't come with a power supply.

the antminer is an awesome system, i own two. and if 4.25BTC is 'fair' for that (I think 3.75BTC would be ideal), then a sunzi cannot be worth more than 4.00BTC considering it draws about 2x the wattage, even if it comes with a PSU

Price is firm. Sunzi comes with 1300 watt power supply and custom built rack mountable frame.

You are calculating for a decreasing diff?  With 4-6 Asic companies trying to ship out massive amounts of hashing power in the next 1-24months? 

Yeah, because 30% increase infinitely can only be sustained so long, at some point there will be a "shelf" for a while. And while it may seem like a "massive" amount of hashrate... each 30% increase the required hashrate increase is a substantially larger amount of hashrate required to meet 30%
In other words, in time 1TH/2TH machines wont even put a dent in diff...

This is another way to look at it ..
http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=908350862.43702&dcosts=6600&diff_mincrease=50&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=200000&diff_mincreasedecrease=15&btcusd=1000&dpowcon=0&btcusd_mincrease=1&pcost=0.11&calcweeks=32&dleadtime=0&action=calc#

That's a very interesting way to look at it.   Also since we know there are fabrication limits and power to ghash limits the ability to create infinitely faster and more efficient miners has real limits which could cause diff decreases as old equipment is removed. 

As CrazyGuy pointed out the usd/btc ratio is completely irrelevant to purchasing gear with BTC:

http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=908350862.43702&dcosts=6.6&diff_mincrease=50&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=200000&diff_mincreasedecrease=15&btcusd=1&dpowcon=0&btcusd_mincrease=0&pcost=0&calcweeks=32&dleadtime=0&action=calc# (http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=908350862.43702&dcosts=6.6&diff_mincrease=50&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=200000&diff_mincreasedecrease=15&btcusd=1&dpowcon=0&btcusd_mincrease=0&pcost=0&calcweeks=32&dleadtime=0&action=calc#)

I dont really pay attention to the USD / btc price ratio... I just make sure the price per btc & the USD I enter ... equals the amount of BTC Im paying, so I pick easy numbers like $1000/btc  ... that way makes entering 6.6btc easy, cuz then its just $6600 =)    ...
The only time I would pay attention to the btc price is if Im buying something in fiat.
ha, I guess the same thing is achieved when u put price @ 1$ =P .. didnt even think of that before... .. its all the same to me anyways =)

ha, I didnt previously realize the btc price / jump increase of 1% was affecting ROI window.... bleh, now I do...shit now it looks even uglier when u put "no change" =P

Expecting hashrate to quickly triple or even more in coming months, but have a reasonable shelf after that... , I think this is pretty close:
http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=908350862.43702&dcosts=6.6&diff_mincrease=40&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=200000&diff_mincreasedecrease=15&btcusd=1&dpowcon=0&btcusd_mincrease=0&pcost=0.25&calcweeks=48&dleadtime=0&action=calc

Love this! I completely agree with this model. Thanks!  :)

Do note, this doesnt account for unnannounced products coming later next year and hashrate the year after that... expect more so adjust the curve accordingly ... and in a couple years another block reward halving is coming. So... many unknowns past current announced hashrate projection. So, I suspect the next 6 months are reflected well in this calc, but beyond that its a crapshoot.

Or the 5PH Hong-Kong mining project..... or the 10k chips a month Cointerra has committed.. or or or..

I like that calculator, thanks for sharing General.

If you are interested in waiting until December 30th, you can get BFL's version with the same chips(possibly on long boards) for $11.875k(13.45 BTC)

https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage/250-gh-s-rack-mount-bitcoin-miner.html


For those of you ready to start mining now, we have a few Sunzis left.

200-220gh/s(220 if you live somewhere really cold like the general) rack mountable miner for 6.6 BTC

https://i.imgur.com/omAiYHTl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PA0us93l.jpg