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Which of these companies would you NOT Trust little BabyTodCoon with (Vote for the least reliable company)?

Looking for a BTCsitter  ;D

Thank you

This poll only needs one option  ::)

Hmmm I'm gonna have to take option 4

and with your quick and accurate decision making skills you should probably be working for them  :)

It's not looking good ATM for butterfly labs .......but it's still a very small sample.

Sounds like someone's a little butthurt. Where did Josh touch you?

any more suggestions  ???

it was a compliment haha yes i know the way it sounded though

Heh saw options pressed 4 it was unanimous, then again if you leave a baby there he will learn the ways of the gangstas and become his own movie lol.

Uhhh surprise, surprise, BFL least reliable. What a big surprise xDD

Don't worry BFL, the duration of the poll is just "two weeks"™

MT GOX

their not doing to bad considering they used to be a card trading exchange

Oh look, Josh voted for Hashfast!   ;D

Mt Gox and BFL are certainly the most well know rubbish bitcoin companies.

Something tells me BFL is going to win this. 94% so far.

At least Butterfly Labs eventually delivers. Other companies simply run off with the money, no product delivered. Then change their name and  move on to start it all over again.

https://cryoniks.com/#!/home/

https://terrahash.com/ 

voted bfl, based on number of threads about them

yes, "two weeks" plus a year :)

I truly think he voted for BFL!

True, Please let me know if should add any others?

Dont forget to vote  ;D

@OP
This thread belongs to mining hardware not service discussion.
Btw why are you more interested in the least reliable rather than the MOST reliable ?

aaaaw good question grasshopper? im more interested in whos NOT than who is reliable? but i will make another post concerning your question :?) or you can make one up :)

Fellow brothers in the BTC race dont forget to vote :) Thanks

There seems to be a consensus here. :D

So Butterfly Labs is voted least reliable even though they shipped units? ??? And Terrahash is more reliable even though they are dissolving the company without shipping a single unit? KNC is tied with Terrahash yet they have some of the best gear shipped within a month of the due dates???

I respect all life forms, including you. That must be the beneficial influence of buddhist teachings that I can only recommmend you to follow.

thank you for votes, Dont forget to vote   ;D

why MtGox is not on the list?

 ::)

sry only doing companies that make bitcoin miners.

  +1  ;D ;D ;D !

    Why do you think MTGOX is fraudulent company? I have some money to Mtgox and I intend to raise them so I wonder.

Read the damn title, it says "least reliable"

Then change your OP....

No where you mentioned bitcoin miners only.

True!

Vote for the least reliable company?

Vote for the least reliable company? ;D 8) ::) :o

No Avalon? What the hell... give them some love.

True :) ok ill add them to our list.

Classic!

True, Please let me know if I should add any others?

I don't think you need to, the results are pretty clear.  ;)

Coooool! Please keep on voting! any Post against Butterfly Labs can be used in a Court of Law  8)

Would be nice to be able to view poll results.

Question:    Vote for the least reliable company?
Cointerra   - 0 (0%)
Kncminer   - 4 (2.6%)
Hashfast   - 4 (2.6%)
butterfly labs   - 126 (81.8%)
Terrahash   - 10 (6.5%)
Avalon   - 10 (6.5%)
Total Voters: 154

What for? For vote what people votes? I think is better hidden.

BFL has to win the award for stringing people along for the longest time.

It was two months away from delivery for over a year!  ::) That's gotta be some kind of world record?

I wonder how many buyers sued for loss of production?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consequential_damages

Butterfly is in the lead!  :o

Vote for the least reliable company? Cointerra  0 (0%)
Kncminer  4 (2.3%)
Hashfast  6 (3.4%)
butterfly labs  144 (82.3%)
Terrahash  10 (5.7%)
Avalon  11 (6.3%)
 
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Any more votes ???

Vote for the least reliable company? Cointerra  1 (0.5%)
Kncminer  5 (2.7%)
Hashfast  6 (3.2%)
butterfly labs  152 (81.3%)
Terrahash  11 (5.9%)
Avalon  12 (6.4%)
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Total Voters: 187

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Where is that cockroach Incubus?

I humbly submit that the company that is the least reliable in this poll does NOT do the following things... in fact in most cases they do the exact opposite.

Build Trust - Establish and maintain a positive track record in the marketplace.

Advertise Honestly - Adhere to established standards of advertising and selling.

Tell the Truth - Honestly represent products and services, including clear and adequate disclosures of all material terms.

Be Transparent - Openly identify the nature, location, and ownership of the business, and clearly disclose all policies, guarantees and procedures that bear on a customer’s decision to buy.

Honor Promises - Abide by all written agreements and verbal representations.

Be Responsive - Address marketplace disputes quickly, professionally, and in good faith.

Safeguard Privacy - Protect any data collected against mishandling and fraud, collect personal information only as needed, and respect the preferences of consumers regarding the use of their information.

Embody Integrity - Approach all business dealings, marketplace transactions and commitments with integrity.

He does not want none this!!  8)

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Please keep on voting :) your vote counts :!)

Wonder why one company draws so many votes?

Avalon was the only one that delays caused me to lose out. BFL actually came through for me enough to make my ROI, but in no way do I condone their highly unscrupulous business practices at all.

How is terrahash not winning this poll?  BFL shipped, Terrahash can't even refund half of customer's money.  We're talking about reliability here, not lateness.

Not everyone bought terrahash... did they?

Given that though seems like BFL is winner for any number of failings.

Shipping dates, failed specs, rma issues, refund issues, lack of ethics etc etc etc and pretty much the general discord they have sown in the community literally makes people want to click that radio button for them more than others right?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=323857.msg3670426#msg3670426 <--- some areas to consider in terms of reliability beyond the hardware and more to do with the company over all.

I didn't buy Terrahash, but here's the outcome if I had:
Hashrate delivered

Company	Hashrate delivered and running
BFL	540GH/s
Terrahash	0GH/s

So, it comes down to what "reliable" means.  LOTS of BFL customers are hashing with their hardware, and ZERO Terrahash customers are hashing with their hardware.  Sure, BFL was super-late, possibly lied through the process, produced a few duds (I have a slow one myself), produced and shipped units REALLY slowly, but in the end, they did deliver, and I'd say that's more reliable in the end than a company that goes under and can't even fully refund everyone.  Of course, you're right that there's just more BFL customers, so maybe proportionally Terrahash customers are more upset about Terrahash than BFL.  All of my BFL hardware has more than ROI'ed in USD (yeah yeah I know it will never ROI in BTC opportunity cost).

Of course, you could say Terrahash's statements were more reliable than BFLs - I agree there.  It's just that one of those statements was "we're done and you don't get your money back."  That is a pretty reliable statement.

The shipped very late with both the FPGAs and ASICs and they are still months behind in shipping.
Their products specs were changed many times and missed their power numbers.
They have not provided refunds to their customers who wanted them contrary to FTC regulations.
Their customers service can best be described as unreliable.


And the list goes on.

That would be a clear indication why the majority of people voted for BFL being the LEAST reliable. Makes perfect sense.

Here is where you want to go to SING the praises of BFL... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=342455.0

Funny they have 0 votes there.. and 200 here... I guess there are lot more people willing to voice opinion about their LACK of Reliability here than those "satisfied" like you are.

I'd still rather get what I ordered late than half my money back.  And they gave refunds until June and very publicly stated that they were stopping refunds to enter production.

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Darin M. "Bicknellski" Bicknell has tried to run several companies.  After being turned down legally in his native Canada to start a school and being unable to hold down a job for more than a year, he was forced to flee to Indonesia to create an illegal "school" for children.  He is currently actively trying to scam people with his bitcoin mining companies, lets take a look at them according to his list:


Was completely unable to deliver on his first attempt, even though all parts were supplied by someone else.  This is an infinite delay.
Is now currently delayed for his new "modular" junk miners that don't even function and you have to build it yourself, though he's still trying to run a pre-order scam.

Failed to delivery a single working device after numerous promises.

Advertised for working mining devices, failed to deliver a single one.

Has no customer service people.

Maintains open line of communication, which is required to run a scam such as the Hive & Wasp, as well as the "Big Picture Mining" scam.

Finally refunded people after it was clear he was completely unable to deliver on his "Big Picture Mining" scam.  Held on to peoples funds for a period of time, using those funds to enrich himself through trading and arbitrage.


Failed to set a clear shipping date, but even without setting a clear date was unable to ship a single product.

Who knows?

I'm sure those people who finally got a refund after losing the opportunity cost of "purchasing" from Darin M. Bicknell are happy as clams.

Has no engineers and can not even deliver a product where all components are designed, programmed and manufactured by someone else.

Has no product, so reliability isn't a concern.  Has no engineers, so no engineering has been done.


Has no shipped product, so no additional hours are required.  His new Hive and Wasp require extensive engineering capabilities to even get functioning (Supply your own chips!).  LOL

....

Wow, so Darin can't even satisfy a single point of his list, and he's run two failed ventures so far and he continues to scam people out of BTC.  Yep, real upstanding guy there, that Darin M. Bicknell. Quality fellow!  Runs an illegal school in Indonesia and runs BTC hardware scams on the side, all the while trolling his "competition" with lies and misinformation.  Awesome guy!

I think the poll results are wrong.  BFL is highly reliable.  I know I can rely on them to be about 6 months late delivering any new product line.

I'm sure I'll be able to rely on them again when it comes to Monarch delivery.

KnCMiner has 8 votes? What did they ever do?

Avalon has 24 votes.. Probably because this turned into another BFL thread. There are people that got robbed by Avalon. BFL is nothing compared to Avalon and Yifu the scumbag. May I suggest you guys do some research and focus on real scammers https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140974.480

There is plenty of scam in BFL. Just ask those waiting still on refunds. As someone that barely escaped the Avalon Chip Buy fiasco I can agree that Avalon is just as bad or worse than BFL. However neither company are reliable and could easily share the title. The difference being Inaba being an utter tool towards most of his customer base as evidenced clearly in this forum often drives or pushes people to vote more often against BFL. They are still to garner a single most RELIABLE vote either. I wonder why?

I see your point but most of the BFL customer where lied to and could not get a refund ~ They have terrible customer service and have NO respect for any of their costomer (your just a number to them). Everyone who invested into this BFL ended up losing moneyBTCBTCBTC$. We were promised a two week turn around (I don’t know of any one that received their rig in two weeks ??? ) Every one waited 6 to 1yrs1/2 to receiver their rigs :(

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Question ???
When will the Monarch be Delivered  ??? :)

Nope! just The Facts of Life  8)

That’s great that you have Faith in BFL ~ I truly DO hope they deliver on time but they already punched it a month later from the original date ~ If they were truly Confident in their delivery date they would offer some sort of refund IF they dont deliver on TIME or your money BACK! Keep your customer happy! :0)  :P

please keep on voting  :o
Cointerra   - 5 (1.7%)
Kncminer   - 9 (3.1%)
Hashfast   - 10 (3.5%)
BUTTERFLY LABs   - 221 (76.7%)
Terrahash   - 15 (5.2%)
Avalon   - 28 (9.7%)

dont for get to vote  ;D :) 8)

why are you spamming your post on all the bfl posts?

Amazing... the low road KING is posting about taking the high road!  And here I thought Bickski couldn't stoop any lower.

How's that FRC investment doing Bick old boy?  Looks like it's lost over 1/2 it's value in the last 24 hours.  My Monarch order is still worth $2800 and still only cost me 2.03BTC, so looks like I still win.  Course, I happened to sell at $1000 and bought back at $550, so now I even have the BTC I spent back.  Win/Win for me :D.

Vote for the least reliable ASIC company?
Cointerra   - 5 (1.7%)
Kncminer   - 11 (3.6%)
Hashfast   - 10 (3.3%)
BUTTERFLY LABs   - 231 (76.5%)
Terrahash   - 15 (5%)
Avalon   - 30 (9.9%)
Total Voters: 302

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I love this... It's like talking a poll at the Republican Caucus asking which party is the worst and then pointing at it and saying "Scoreboard Bro!".  Don't mean shit cause the results are skewed.  Too bad you fail so much at understanding life "BRO".  Maybe once you figure out how to take a truly UNBIASED poll it might means something.

I also notice you have clammed up on your tapeout whine... is that because you realize you've been had?  Your constant rant about 17 weeks from 'today' was funny and kept the BFL name at the top of this forum, but now you've dropped it and I notice it happened after the post Josh made on the BFL forums and quoted here about the Feb delivery dates.  I'm just curious if you actually did a backwards calculation and figure out that the tapeout had to have already occurred ~2 months ago to meet with your "17 weeks from tapeout" rant in order to be delivered in Feb?  Regardless, keep up the good work.  I know I can count on you to keep BFL's name at the top of the forums.

Bick has rapidly supplanted PuertoFailbre as my most loved and useful minion.  I am pleased as to how easy he is to manipulate... makes PL and the Clown Crew look like certified geniuses by comparison.

The scoreboard is awesome.  Out of 40,000 customers, 231 have voted negatively... so by Bick's and LittleD(umbass)'s logic, over 39,000 people are happy and satisfied with BFL.  39,000 satisfied customers... no other vendor even has that many customers, satisfied or not. 

BOOM!  Scoreboard, BRO! 50x the satisfied customers as any other vendor!

Just a suggestion, why don't you make your own poll with just one question: "Are you a satisfied customer of BFL"?
Do it on your own forum only for customers who have actually bought something from you.
Then, come back to report ;)

Fail again. How many customers does ASICMiner have?

Like I have said many times before... Most of our customers stay as far away from the forums as possible. See, most people are civilized, respectful individuals who don't want to associate with people such as Bicknellski, etc. Normal humans don't like rabid animals who can't control their behavior so they avoid people like that. Since the majority of this forum is filled with emotional teenage ego girls (or at least you would think so by the way they act), normal people stay far away.

The BFL forums suffer from that as well, though to a much lesser extent. Most people don't give a shit about the forums or talking to a bunch of rabid nerds.

Bitcointalk mining hardware subforum is composed a a few hundred individuals. Completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, especially when a handful of those, like Bick, Sake and Pl chase the rest away with their constant steam of hate and lies. This forum matters not one whit to anyone important in the mining industry. Everyone who actually accomplishes anything has their own channels of communication and only use bitcointalk as a secondary, largely irrelevant communication channel.

Just make a poll on your own damn forum Josh if you think for the slightest reason why BFL should not be one of the least reliable ASIC vendors out there.  Gather the data, crunch it.. and then tell every one it'll take two weeks for the results to show and finally release it in 12 months.

You think you have 40k satisfied customers? That's the funniest thing I've ever seen online. Thousands of people who paid a year earlier just getting their seriously underpowered machines in the last two months. Do you think you provided a quality experience for them? Do you really think they are happy with how it all went? You're a delusional liar, and in my opinion a thief. You borrowed money interest free for a year to develop your underperforming products, called customers names, lied about the status of orders and fought as hard as possible to avoid refunds.

"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
-George Bernard Shaw

FTFY

So, you've successfully dodged a polite suggestion.
Seriously, why not poll your customers?

I think they already did when we received all those call-center calls asking if we were satisfied customers.

Think BFL will be sharing the results?

Slok would then have to ban anyone that voted they were the least reliable company and their forums would be even more of ghost town. I wonder why there is less of focus on the obvious problems with BFL customer relationship management and more on denigrating people and other companies in the forums? The best course of action might be find ways to be a better company. You don't simply acquire thousands of angry customers by accident you really have to work at it.

There is another poll for most reliable company where are those 40 thousand happy BFL customers? Why is BFL still at the bottom of that poll.

LOVE it +1

Are you ever going to apologies or are you just going to acted like a kid and put the blame on your customers Huh

So true good info please read !

... and got filthy rich in the process, which was the goal all along, and nothing anyone here says or does really matters.

Money doesn't come out of thin air. In order for one person to get $1,000,000 you need 1000 fools to give you $1000.

The real question is when will the well of fools dry up?

sad, no wonder your still in businesses  :( Like a lion preying on newbs :( sad but true!
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Preying and praying for new sheep!
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Cointerra - 5 (1.5%)
Kncminer - 12 (3.6%)
Hashfast - 10 (3%)
BUTTERFLY LABs - 256 (77.3%)  Terrahash - 16 (4.8%)
Avalon - 32 (9.7%)
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Total Voters: 331


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Hey Inatard! That's because your customers are people who find your website thought searches and who are too idiot to search for reviews or anything about your company. Whoever gets to your website takes it as legitimate and reasonable, but by the time they realize it isn't the case it's way too late and they are screwed. I can bet that you have very low low re-order rate at your shitty products and i'm talking about a true re-order not for the forced upgrades and bullshit that you offer to your customers. I think at this stage even AM with it's ridiculous prices has bigger re-order rate than your shitty lying company!

Meanwhile looking at http://www.bitcoindf.org/ i see that you still have 48.3% to pay from your stupid bet and i don't think you will ever pay them in full (not at this prices for sure)

Please keep on voting :)
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Cointerra - 5 (1.4%)
Kncminer - 14 (4%)
Hashfast - 10 (2.9%)
BUTTERFLY LABs - 268 (77.2%)
Terrahash - 16 (4.6%)
Avalon - 34 (9.8%)


don't forget to vote!

On a side note: According to Josh's "ingenious & fool-proof" logic.. he is claiming there are 39,xxx out of 40,000 "satisfied" customers out there who purchased BFL hardware simply because none of the other 39k people voted on this poll.  So if your customers can care less about forums, why don't you hire some solicitors from India (like you did with the BFL 10-20% off coupon phone calls so many of us received) and let them ask your customers rate they're experience with BFL.

I will wager 2000BTC that more than 75% of your customers will give BFL a 1 out of 10 (1 being they rather be pissed on than go through the same experience they went through with BFL's delays and BS).  If I do happen to lose this wager, I'll just donate it to a charity of my choice.

I will take you up on that bet.  Find and escrow and send the 2000 BTC and I will do the same.

You would think he would first pay off the other 3 or 4 bets he hasn't paid first before taking on more? Wonder how the IRS is going to like reviewing them books.

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You can smell the hypocrisy from here and the IRS audit is coming.

Dude "Inaba", Just look at all the negative reviews Butterfly Labs has. Why can’t you just apologies to ALL customers and reimburse customers with some BTC. We The BTC community feel abused by you and your colleague! You promise 2 weeks but then you changed it to 3 months, 6 months and 1 yrs. We trusted your Company with our hard working BTC and this is how you repay us, with lies and promises you can NOT keep.

Some of us invested 500BTC (500 = $321,524) in your company (your wallet), hoping/praying for a goooood return :( Some of us will never see 500 BTC again. Dude we believed in you. This is why you are the number 1 Least reliable ASIC company! Polls don't LIE!

Question "Inaba", ???
How rich have we made you (BTC Customers) and how rich have you made us?

Instead of making this bet (2000 BTC), Please Give some of those BTC back to the people who made your rich. You come in here flaunting ALL your BTC, when some of us are trying to reach for 5BTC and can’t because of the high Difficulty. This here show how arrogant and foolish YOU look! and then you expect us to bow down and worship you, like if you where the “ASIC God” ??? come on!

"Inaba", Stop playing the victim and DO what’s Right! That’s ALL we are asking!

Another Question ???
When is the Monarch going to be delivered?

 
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Please dont feed tards jayeeyee! Inaba already lost a 1000 BTC bet and he didn't honor it. His words=zero coming from a scumbag like him. He will say anything just to get more tards to buy his idiot hardware.

"Inaba", You were quick to reply and take the 2000BTC bet! Why aren't you Quick to reply back to me ???

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Vote for the least reliable ASIC company?

Cointerra - 5 (1.4%)
Kncminer - 16 (4.4%)
Hashfast - 12 (3.3%)
BUTTERFLY LABs - 280 (76.3%)  
Terrahash - 19 (5.2%)
Avalon - 35 (9.5%)
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Total Voters: 367

That sure is some significant margin there.

If you would like to file a complain against Butterfly Labs  with the State of California,
Here are the Links,
http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/

https://www.dca.ca.gov/webapps/cru/gencomplaint.php

http://www.ftc.gov/about-ftc/bureaus-offices/bureau-consumer-protection

I still find it funny that they can't seem to produce a few units... Complaining of lack of supplies... Then sell reels of chips, that could have been used to build the units people already paid for.

Now they are out-sourcing, because I see the new stuff uses personalized versions of "Coincraft A1" pcie-cards. Next they will resell KNC boards, re-branded as a new mini-jali II.

I think it is safe to say that BFL is dead as a MFG, and is still barely a distributor. Since it is cheaper to get individual items, or QTY items directly from the MFG they are getting the units from.

I wouldn't be surprised if they start hoarding all the knock-off Avalon II's, re-branded with a BFL logo on them.

This is what happens when CEO's attempt to rape a market, under the ploy of helping them. They always help themselves, and just screw everyone-else along the way. Old habits die hard. You don't steal from the poor to make yourself sort-of-rich... That is just a bad business model.

The one good thing, is that all this loss is making the value of BTC rise more. Since we have to raise our prices to cover the losses. I honestly hope they cashed-out ASAP, so they don't get any of this additional loss-reward.

Can someone write a formal complaint that I and everyone else can just copy/paste? Don't feel like spending the time to write a formal complaint yet I would love it if BFL imploded yesterday.

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Vote for the least reliable ASIC company?

Cointerra - 6 (1.6%)
Kncminer - 18 (4.8%)
Hashfast - 12 (3.2%)
BUTTERFLY LABs - 284 (75.9%)  
Terrahash - 19 (5.1%)
Avalon - 35 (9.4%)
 

Why are bitmain  and bitfury on the voting list? I believe both have proven themselves.

edit: also knc miner? Seems like they were possibly the most reliable.  Besides the whole exploding circuit board thing.

sound good ~ I will remove :)

 Voted for the least reliable ASIC company.


     BUTTERFLY LABs - 284 (75.9%)  

 ;D

 
 

You know what's more fucked up? TigerDirect.com is going to sponsor BFL soon... http://www.tigerdirect.com/bitcoin/indexus.asp?cm_re=Homepage-_-Spot%2001a-_-CatId_campaign_bitcoinTakeover, click Mining tab and scroll down an inch.

WHAT!!!!!!!!!! NO Way! I will stop buying from them if they do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(

Tell me about it... I was on my merry little way to TigerDirect to order a full tower case, then I stumbled upon it and I just raged quit.

bro, I couldn't believe it when I saw it but TigerDirect will see why butterfly labs is the least reliable ASIC company.

All we can do is email tiger direct and let them know they are hurting their own reputation by selling products from scammers.

I already did and I posted it on twitter to.

here the new thread for TigerDirect and BFL.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=430931.0

Newbies please look at te stats and dont waits you BTC on BFL or Tiger Direct.

LOL,your slipping bro  :D  Spellcheck is your friend LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

I think you meant:

Newbies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please look at the stats and don't waste your BTC on BFL or Tiger Direct.  ;)

Glad to help  8)

lol i know bro :(

I left positive feedback for ya...keep the torch lit  8)

Thanks Unacceptable   :)

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I'd prefer if you have done biz with me before that you leave me feedback. Thanks. I'd prefer not to skew the trust rating I have positive or negative because of BFL's negligent behavior.

Got it :)

Thank you for the thought and having my back I appreciate that LittleD.

Clearly BFL is the least reliable... let us hope the judges in their numerous lawsuits against them also agrees.

Vote for the least reliable ASIC company?

Cointerra - 6 (1.6%)
Kncminer - 18 (4.8%)
Hashfast - 12 (3.2%)
BUTTERFLY LABs - 284 (75.9%)  
Terrahash - 19 (5.1%)
Avalon - 35 (9.4%)
Black Arrow - 0 (0%)
Bitmain/Antminer - 0 (0%)
Technobit - 0 (0%)
Ninjatech - 0 (0%)
Alpha Technology - 0 (0%)
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It's a telling sign when BFL actually wins out over Hashfast which just recently declared bankruptcy and REALLY screwed people that invested in them.  lmao

Hashfast was just as douchy, they just didn't douche out on a large scale like BFL did. BFL fucked everyone over. Hashfast fucked over some people.

Haha, the graph looks almost like a middle finger.  Wouldn't that be great, BFL giving us the bird.  I'm bumping this just so all the new people flowing into hardware might see this.

Why do they still have the jalapeno on their website for $250? It's a blatant scam at this point. I could see some new bitcoiners coming into the minning scence and purchasing this and then realizing they will never ever ROI. BFL should take that off their website.

I don't think many of us would object to them selling an in-stock jalapeno for $250, or even $10k. It's the fact they hold your money hostage for years and refuse to give you a refund that is the point of contention.

If a fool has $250 to spend without doing even the slightest bit of reading for 5 min they didn't need the money anyway. 

Yeah ScamFast was probably run worst than BFL....but the amount of damage they have done in total dollar/bitcoin value is 10x that of ScamFast.

The $250 for a Jalapeno may actually be coming from Tiger Direct, or Walmart. I am pretty sure you can order a Jalapeno, for $250 from either one of them. I don't know if that's "new" or "used".

HashFast was a pretty quick burn out, so to say... BFL are doing their thing now for at least 2 years!!! They don't appear to go down anytime soon. It's amazing to see how they lure more and more beginners into buying their products. Even their website looks the same as a year ago, people falling for the same promises and cleverly engineered marketing and advertisements!