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Title: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: TheGer on July 28, 2011, 05:05:49 PM
WASHINGTON — The United States said Wednesday it was reviewing a request by Libya's rebels to open an embassy in Washington, following Britain which expelled diplomats from Moamer Kadhafi's regime.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jJMQe64dz1C1VAD2IXJJN_9Wsz7Q?docId=CNG.b8ddcd45fb4de7570a444013d5b8e3ad.9d1

Are we seeing the reprogramming of an entire nation before our eyes(A-la 1984)  where Al Qaeda is no longer the enemy?  Or do they just hope it slips under the radar that Al Qaeda members are rife within the ranks of these so called Rebels in Libya?


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: Explodicle on July 28, 2011, 05:49:30 PM
What the hell! Someone tell those insurgents that there are only two sides!

By the way, if they get an embassy, it is no longer U.S. soil.


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: TECSHARE on July 28, 2011, 05:54:22 PM
This is the whole mosque at ground zero debate all over again. The only reason it is being given mainstream coverage is because they are attempting to get people behind the war via peoples outrage in having an enemy front on US soil. This is another example of the US government allowing its people to be affronted and attacked in order to push thru a radical globalist agenda.


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: timmey on July 28, 2011, 05:59:37 PM
Quote from: thread title
US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
*implying Libya's rebels are Al Qaeda*
....wtf?


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: TheGer on July 28, 2011, 06:05:50 PM
Lol someone hasn't been keeping up with the details of the new Peace called Kinetic Action.

Quote from: thread title
US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
*implying Libya's rebels are Al Qaeda*
....wtf?


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: GideonGono on July 29, 2011, 06:53:23 PM
Quote from: thread title
US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
*implying Libya's rebels are Al Qaeda*
....wtf?

The Libyan "rebels" are just a bunch of defectors from Qaddafi's regime, Al-Qaeda radicals and other assorted opportunistic malcontents


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: speeder on July 29, 2011, 06:57:54 PM
Quote from: thread title
US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
*implying Libya's rebels are Al Qaeda*
....wtf?

The Libyan "rebels" are just a bunch of defectors from Qaddafi's regime, Al-Qaeda radicals and other assorted opportunistic malcontents

Although seemly the most important defector was not a defector (rebels called him for investigation, seemly thinking he was a double agent) and was killed en-route to talk with judges.

His tribe is getting ready for rebel civil war. Seemly the rebels are double agents and Al-Quaeda, and Al-Quaeda found about the double agents, and now the two will fight.


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: Babylon on July 29, 2011, 07:09:20 PM
This is the whole mosque at ground zero debate all over again. The only reason it is being given mainstream coverage is because they are attempting to get people behind the war via peoples outrage in having an enemy front on US soil. This is another example of the US government allowing its people to be affronted and attacked in order to push thru a radical globalist agenda.

it's not,  the ground zero mosque is protected by the first amendment.  The Libyan rebels should not be setting up an embassy until they take control of the country.


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: TheGer on July 29, 2011, 09:43:16 PM
Even though the so called "Rebels" backed by Globalists have oodles of Al Qaeda in their ranks?  Look at the timetable of everything that's happened their.  It's a complete setup to take over another Middle Eastern Country.  2+2=4


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: Tasty Champa on July 29, 2011, 11:34:55 PM
shit, from what i can tell the republicans just got their way with the ISP IP data logging.
so 1984? Fuk yeh!


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: joulesbeef on July 29, 2011, 11:54:15 PM
nothing to see here, just some scared shitless republicans being scared shitless of some brown people. WHats crazy is they are supporting an enemy of the US by being against the rebels.

Just as the relatives of flight pam am 103 how much they love republicans hating on the rebels.



AS for calling the no fly zone which the US is taking the 3rd seat behind the brits and the french>. WHICH NEVER FUCKIGN HAPPENS.. tell me did bush start a war in iraq or where we always at war in iraq? How many wars happened under clinton? Just seems like a new right wing meme to pretend that suddenly this is a new war when they never called the iraqi no fly zone a war.. tell me when bush sent drones into pakistan... was that a third bush war?


This kind of hyperventilating fear mongering is what gave us the mass killings in norway.

Wake up and smell the coffee and see who is really making america less safe.



Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: TheGer on July 30, 2011, 12:43:14 AM
You mean the Pan Am 103 flight where Major Charles McKie who worked for the US Defence Intelligence Agency was blown out of the sky before he could whistle blow on CIA drug running in the Middle East?  That Pan Am 103?

Libya was coerced into taking the blame for the bombing to appease US interests.  Just as he got rid of all his WMD's to appease US interests.  Just as he ARRRGG  THEIR STABBING ME IN THE BACK!!!!  Damn those US interests!

"Just as the relatives of flight pam am 103 how much they love republicans hating on the rebels."

No Fly Zone?  You mean Bombardment don't you?  That's what it is.  No Fly Zone = Bombardment, Kinectic Action = War.  War, It's the new Peace, now get on the bandwagon.  Here's your Nobel Peace Prize Sir, good work!


nothing to see here, just some scared shitless republicans being scared shitless of some brown people. WHats crazy is they are supporting an enemy of the US by being against the rebels.

Just as the relatives of flight pam am 103 how much they love republicans hating on the rebels.



AS for calling the no fly zone which the US is taking the 3rd seat behind the brits and the french>. WHICH NEVER FUCKIGN HAPPENS.. tell me did bush start a war in iraq or where we always at war in iraq? How many wars happened under clinton? Just seems like a new right wing meme to pretend that suddenly this is a new war when they never called the iraqi no fly zone a war.. tell me when bush sent drones into pakistan... was that a third bush war?


This kind of hyperventilating fear mongering is what gave us the mass killings in norway.

Wake up and smell the coffee and see who is really making america less safe.




Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: TECSHARE on July 30, 2011, 08:53:57 AM
This is the whole mosque at ground zero debate all over again. The only reason it is being given mainstream coverage is because they are attempting to get people behind the war via peoples outrage in having an enemy front on US soil. This is another example of the US government allowing its people to be affronted and attacked in order to push thru a radical globalist agenda.

it's not,  the ground zero mosque is protected by the first amendment.  The Libyan rebels should not be setting up an embassy until they take control of the country.

My point was not to make claims of legitimacy or illegitimacy of any of the arguments, but to point out the fact that the argument itself is being brought to mainstream attention in order to serve the purpose of sewing division, much like the ground zero mosque issue was.


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: GideonGono on July 30, 2011, 09:54:13 AM
What I don't get is why the hell the Chinese and Russians even allowed the "no-fly zone" to begin with. They can't be that stupid, can they? Or they are in the charade as well and Libya was already divvied up in some smoke filled back room?


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: AyeYo on July 31, 2011, 02:40:34 AM
Hey, moronic OP, if you forgot your history already, I'll remind you that we've had this kind of on again/off again love relationship thing going on with pretty much every terrorist group that's existed in the last hundred years, Al Qaeda included.  We support and supply them to oppress their own people, then cry and go kill them when they attack us too.

For review:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/handshake300.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan



Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: TheGer on July 31, 2011, 04:47:29 AM
Now that you're done looking like a complete idiot, I'll thank you for supporting my original post and the hypocracy of the White House in giving terrorists an Embassy on US Soil. 

That being said...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/Lannister/mcdonalds_fail-12853.jpg


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: AyeYo on July 31, 2011, 01:54:11 PM
Now that you're done looking like a complete idiot, I'll thank you for supporting my original post and the hypocracy of the White House in giving terrorists an Embassy on US Soil. 

That being said...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/Lannister/mcdonalds_fail-12853.jpg


It's not hypocritical when it's a known and accepted fact that that is how the US operates.


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: GideonGono on July 31, 2011, 03:03:52 PM
Hey, moronic OP, if you forgot your history already, I'll remind you that we've had this kind of on again/off again love relationship thing going on with pretty much every terrorist group that's existed in the last hundred years, Al Qaeda included.  We support and supply them to oppress their own people, then cry and go kill them when they attack us too.

For review:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/handshake300.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_in_Afghanistan



This guy is clearly a troll-bot of some sort. Programmed to automatically oppose anything anti-govt, even when his response makes no sense.


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: TheGer on July 31, 2011, 04:06:55 PM
Ya, you notice the same group of people comes out of the woodwork in those situations to argue with you.  Even when no argument is possible, or valid.


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: lemonginger on August 01, 2011, 03:59:44 AM
Al Qaeda is no longer the enemy?  Or do they just hope it slips under the radar that Al Qaeda members are rife within the ranks of these so called Rebels in Libya?

In the list of entities I'm scared of, the US Government is a lot higher on the list than Al Qaeda


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: Mageant on August 04, 2011, 05:04:09 PM
The newest idea is that Gaddafi is now cooperating with the Islamists, if you wish to believe the MSM.


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: RodeoX on August 05, 2011, 01:45:40 PM
You have got to stop getting your geopolitical information from Gaddafi's fax machine.
The events in Libya show how irrelevant the base is not an example of it's growing power.
 Gaddafi is a corrupt dictator who's crimes have caught up with him. Nothing more.


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: GideonGono on August 06, 2011, 07:55:00 PM
Gaddafi is a corrupt dictator who's crimes have caught up with him. Nothing more.

I wonder when the corrupt white houses crimes are gonna catch up to it.


Title: Re: US to consider terrorist Al Qaeda Embassy on US soil
Post by: cpunks on August 07, 2011, 09:58:38 PM
Firstly, Libyan rebels are not Al Quaeda. The are Libyan rebels, of a rather mixed composition, which means that they might have a few Al Quaeda operatives among themselves too... just like the US armed forces are likely to have, as if it matters, since it's pretty unavoidable! :P

Second, the Libyan rebels are certainly a promising candidate for states to establish diplomatic relations with, since the ports which happen to be located in areas controlled by rebels, do export a few barrels of oil... which sort of makes other states want to get cozy with them...

...and third: they are certainly a bit more legitimate on whatever scale (even my anarchist scale) than a dictator who has ruled 40 years.

Thus, what's the biggie?

And finally, a specific question to TheGer... do you have an ulterior political motive in depicting them as Al Quaeda? What benefit does a mis-characterization of this magnitude bring you? Where's the catch?