Title: When will the bubble pop? Post by: bitwhizz on November 06, 2013, 11:05:35 PM Disclaimer - OP is a long term bull and holder of bitcoins Op wants the price to keep going up Op understands we are in an unsustainable bubble right now Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: TheJuice on November 06, 2013, 11:06:51 PM what bubble?
Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: BitChick on November 06, 2013, 11:08:30 PM The last "bubble" did not last. The next "bubble" will do the same. Sure there will be some volatility but over the long run the price will just continue to go up.
Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: bitwhizz on November 06, 2013, 11:11:32 PM what bubble? the 100 dollar rise in bitcoin value in ten days - generally known as a bubble - looks at a two year chart on bitcoin and see the other two instances this occurred, and no this time isn't different. THe price is irrational right now , however i do believe in longterm value appreciation for bitcoin Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: rocks on November 06, 2013, 11:15:17 PM what bubble? the 100 dollar rise in bitcoin value in ten days - generally known as a bubble - looks at a two year chart or bitcoin and see the other two instances this occurred, and no this time isn;t different. THe price is irrational, however i do believe in longterm value appreciation for bitcoin The only "bubbles" with bitcoin have been rapid > 10x price movements. The first in 2011 from 0.01 to ~30 and the second in 2013 from ~10 to 266. Going from ~130ish to 266 is not a bubble by this metric. We will be in bubble land if the price rapidly moves to >1,500. Until then this is a stable rise. Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: Elwar on November 06, 2013, 11:19:13 PM When it doubles for the fifth time it will crash to the 3rd double and then even out to the 4th.
Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: TERA on November 06, 2013, 11:22:46 PM The bitcoin economy suddenly grows from a single major (incompetent) exchange to several high volume highly liquid exchanges plus etfs, second market, etc. The price goes up 80% over an entire month to a level that its already visited during the mtgox era. This is a bubble?
Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: jojo69 on November 06, 2013, 11:23:51 PM 404
bubble not found Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: bitwhizz on November 06, 2013, 11:25:47 PM considering this rally is being led by solely by the chinese, i would call it a bubble
Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: Tirapon on November 06, 2013, 11:27:42 PM considering this rally is being led by solely by the chinese, i would call it a bubble You sir, are racist! ;) Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: jojo69 on November 06, 2013, 11:28:12 PM bubble would be if we went to 400 tomorrow and 720 on an intraday spike the following day
there will be a correction, I am sure, but the current price is close to long term trends Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: Don007 on November 06, 2013, 11:28:23 PM I'm sure it will decrease in price again, but no one knows when. And, when the price has fallen a bit, it will increase again. This pattern keeps coming back in my opinion. Allthough I don't think it will decrease to a price less than $200,-.
Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: cambda on November 06, 2013, 11:37:48 PM The only "bubbles" with bitcoin have been rapid > 10x price movements. The first in 2011 from 0.01 to ~30 and the second in 2013 from ~10 to 266. Going from ~130ish to 266 is not a bubble by this metric. We will be in bubble land if the price rapidly moves to >1,500. Until then this is a stable rise. What characterize bubble is fast price increase, near the bubble pop is often even higher price increase. Im pretty sure we are in a bubble now, only question of time when the bubble pop Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: TERA on November 06, 2013, 11:47:27 PM After the real bubble begins and the chart rescales, October/November will be seen as the "steady rise period" like march. Anyone who thinks 4%/day is fast is new to bit coin.
Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: jojo69 on November 06, 2013, 11:48:32 PM After the real bubble begins and the chart rescales, October/November will be seen as the "steady rise period" like march. Anyone who thinks 4%/day is fast is new to bit coin. this Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: bitwhizz on November 07, 2013, 12:09:02 AM After the real bubble begins and the chart rescales, October/November will be seen as the "steady rise period" like march. Anyone who thinks 4%/day is fast is new to bit coin. i'm not new to bitcoin, i've seen 4% rise a day before, and i've seen the outcome Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: sgbett on November 07, 2013, 12:23:19 AM After the real bubble begins and the chart rescales, October/November will be seen as the "steady rise period" like march. Anyone who thinks 4%/day is fast is new to bit coin. i'm not new to bitcoin, i've seen 4% rise a day before, and i've seen the outcome Yeah, after about a month they eventually gave way to 10% a day gains ;) Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: zedicus on November 07, 2013, 12:53:57 AM Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: Wekkel on November 07, 2013, 07:49:04 AM Then 4% a day it will be :o
Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: simplydt on November 07, 2013, 07:53:13 AM I think to have a real bubble it must pop and never recover, so a price correction would probably be a better term. If ever bitcoin goes to below $1, that will be a bubble pop! (imho)
Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: wobber on November 07, 2013, 07:56:15 AM I think to have a real bubble it must pop and never recover, so a price correction would probably be a better term. If ever bitcoin goes to below $1, that will be a bubble pop! (imho) If it goes to $10 it's not a bubble? Or to $50? Or to $100? It'd say everything retracing more than 33% is a bubble. Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: simplydt on November 07, 2013, 08:09:30 AM I think to have a real bubble it must pop and never recover, so a price correction would probably be a better term. If ever bitcoin goes to below $1, that will be a bubble pop! (imho) If it goes to $10 it's not a bubble? Or to $50? Or to $100? It'd say everything retracing more than 33% is a bubble. What I meant to say usually you don't recover from a bubble. Judging on the drop to $64 a few months ago, and the current recovery, that was not a bubble. Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: phlogistonq on November 07, 2013, 08:39:46 AM considering this rally is being led by solely by the chinese, i would call it a bubble No, that is just increasing adoption. More people join the fun, and there will be more to come. This growth it just the rapid but natural growth of a new thing being embraced by many people. It makes sense that is should occur in bursts, as we are seeing now. Ofourse, we'll overshoot a bit and then settle down at a new temporary stable value, my guess it will be in the $300-500 range. Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: JakeGold on November 07, 2013, 10:54:02 AM After the real bubble begins and the chart rescales, October/November will be seen as the "steady rise period" like march. Anyone who thinks 4%/day is fast is new to bit coin. i'm not new to bitcoin, i've seen 4% rise a day before, and i've seen the outcome Then I hope you also see this as a huge opportunity. Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: JimboToronto on November 07, 2013, 11:04:52 AM So many bubbles.
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv10/JimboToronto/suds.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/JimboToronto/media/suds.jpg.html) Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: Flashman on November 07, 2013, 11:25:59 AM considering this rally is being led by solely by the chinese, i would call it a bubble No, that is just increasing adoption. More people join the fun, and there will be more to come. This growth it just the rapid but natural growth of a new thing being embraced by many people. It makes sense that is should occur in bursts, as we are seeing now. Ofourse, we'll overshoot a bit and then settle down at a new temporary stable value, my guess it will be in the $300-500 range. Yes, but this is being driven by a relative handful of Chinese, a really really tiny fraction of the Chinese population... if this is the spark that "ignites" the Chinese market, we're in for a hell of a firestorm. Seriously, I've tried running some "What if" calculations and the numbers just go into orbit, past the moon, intergalactic and halfway to the edge of the freaking cosmos... everything comes out completely unbelievable. It would be "nice" if something would tell me that we're only going to a thousand or two, I can comprehend that. Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: TheQuin on November 07, 2013, 11:35:27 AM Bubbles pop when there is no one left to get long and everyone is sure it will keep going up forever. I think we are a long way from that at the moment, but I would expect some big pullbacks along the way.
Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: Zarathustra on November 07, 2013, 11:42:41 AM So many bubbles. http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv10/JimboToronto/suds.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/JimboToronto/media/suds.jpg.html) Yes, Bitcoin is not a bubble, it is a foam party, where bubbles are popping all the time, endlessly until the end. http://rockymountainroll.com/images/Foam%20Party.jpg Title: Re: When will the bubble pop? Post by: jojo69 on November 07, 2013, 04:09:49 PM log scale people, log scale
nothing to see here http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=1080&m=mtgoxUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=&i=&c=0&s=&e=&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=1&p=0& |