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Title: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: mandelbaum_mandelbaum on November 08, 2013, 11:48:29 AM
Hi guys. I'm Jan, from Sweden.

Have a bit of an issue.

Yesterday I sent 0,1 to Satoshi Dice but it was set to no-fee on blockchain.info (I'm new, had no idea it would be THIS BAD).

I played on Satoshi Dice with it for a bit and made 1BTC from it. I got really excited, wanted to withdraw and saw the initial 0,1 is still unconfirmed. It's been 24 hours.

Now normally, I wouldn't be this worried - but today I lost my job.

That 1 BTC will pay my rent. I'll be in a heap of trouble if I lose that 1 BTC because of the initial 0,1 which is still unconfirmed.

What can I do? There has to be a way to fix this. Satoshi Dice is not helping. I don't understand why it's not being confirmed. The warning to no-fee was "several hours" but it's been 24 hours and it doesn't seem to be advancing, it keeps going from 1% to 10-15% and then back to 0% and so on and so forth.

I really need that BTC, how can I fix this? Please help.

This is the transaction in question: https://i.imgur.com/RCK5gBm.png
This is my address: 1GiCm9NRB1La1cPUjD8rnZUeko62A74Hrv
This is the transaction on blockchain: https://blockchain.info/address/1EoBx8yQNiMJqWVwmQWQwPenGuiUou9B7Z
This is the hash: https://blockchain.info/en/tx/80fb75c2d03c2f71a6fe9de37672a049528e41e22ebd891ae872ff9498b89dd2

Please help. I had not anticipated getting fired and now I'm really worried about that unconfirmed transaction.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: CIYAM on November 08, 2013, 11:51:06 AM
Unfortunately there is nothing you can do (assuming the 0.1 BTC unconfirmed tx has *appeared* in say blockchain.info).

There is a large backlog of low or zero fee transactions, blocks have been recently solved slower than the average and the last two blocks only included 120 odd transactions each.

There are quite a few people waiting for confirmation (I am one of them).


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: vnvizow on November 08, 2013, 11:54:07 AM
Tough luck mate, I had a transaction without fees once and it took around 5-6 days for it to be confirmed. I wouldn't blame the miners, they're just trying to make the most out of their devices.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: birkomester on November 08, 2013, 11:54:32 AM
You only can wait


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: fildza on November 08, 2013, 12:08:39 PM
The transaction link cant be open. I think you only can wait and hope


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: goldentowns on November 08, 2013, 12:14:00 PM
What online bitcoin wallet are you using ?


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: leepsteer00 on November 08, 2013, 12:20:54 PM
I think you can only wait in this case.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: exstasie on November 08, 2013, 12:34:36 PM
 I made a similar mistake when I first started too. Obviously no one wants to pay fees, but I didn't realize that it would 4-5 days for it to settle. But I did get confirmed and it wasn't too bad, but going forward I set the option to the most preferred one.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: mandelbaum_mandelbaum on November 08, 2013, 01:31:18 PM
Just wait, there is still hope.

Here is your current estimated confirmation time    13 hours.


I had a transaction yesterday which was sent without a fee, and it had an estimated time of 28 hours. I checked it today and it was confirmed :)

It's been 24 hours and that estimated time keeps changing. It's now up to 15h.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: mprep on November 08, 2013, 01:44:06 PM
Just wait, there is still hope.

Here is your current estimated confirmation time    13 hours.


I had a transaction yesterday which was sent without a fee, and it had an estimated time of 28 hours. I checked it today and it was confirmed :)

It's been 24 hours and that estimated time keeps changing. It's now up to 15h.
It really depends on whether a generous miner will decide to include your transaction in a block. So the estimated time is really, REALLY estimate.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: gemologist on November 08, 2013, 02:16:30 PM
This is precisely why I will never allow someone to do a service for me for free. It either takes forever, or isn't done properly. It's is so interesting that BTC mimics reality in this way.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: Charlie.Portman on November 08, 2013, 05:13:48 PM
Your going to have to wait Days because u didnt pay fee.. miners dnot work for free  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: der_markus on November 08, 2013, 05:39:28 PM
I made the same mistake.

I sent a small amount of bitcoins in February this year.
But the transaction is still pending and not confirmed.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: Charlie.Portman on November 08, 2013, 05:41:31 PM
I made the same mistake.

I sent a small amount of bitcoins in February this year.
But the transaction is still pending and not confirmed.

LOL its still unconfirmed to this Day??? THATS FUNNY AF


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: mandelbaum_mandelbaum on November 08, 2013, 05:45:24 PM
I made the same mistake.

I sent a small amount of bitcoins in February this year.
But the transaction is still pending and not confirmed.

LOL its still unconfirmed to this Day??? THATS FUNNY AF

That's not funny. It's really scary. Sometimes it's really important, even if it's such a small sum.

I really need to find a way to fix this issue. If confirming this is not working, then figure out a way to re-send the same transaction somehow to SatoshiDice and get them to accept it, or... I don't know.

Someone was saying that some "tx" might disappear and then I can resend it? How do I do that?
Someone else said that I should double spend this with a fee, which will go through. How do I do that?


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: vervolioman on November 08, 2013, 05:49:00 PM
Someone else said that I should double spend this with a fee, which will go through. How do I do that?

You could try it, but you would lost the 1BTC from satoshi dice if you successfully double spend your initial 0.1 BTC  :)


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: Wipeout2097 on November 08, 2013, 05:59:40 PM
Just wait, there is still hope.

Here is your current estimated confirmation time    13 hours.


I had a transaction yesterday which was sent without a fee, and it had an estimated time of 28 hours. I checked it today and it was confirmed :)

It's been 24 hours and that estimated time keeps changing. It's now up to 15h.
It really depends on whether a generous miner will decide to include your transaction in a block. So the estimated time is really, REALLY estimate.
How could I do such if I wanted to?


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: mprep on November 08, 2013, 06:08:39 PM
Just wait, there is still hope.

Here is your current estimated confirmation time    13 hours.


I had a transaction yesterday which was sent without a fee, and it had an estimated time of 28 hours. I checked it today and it was confirmed :)

It's been 24 hours and that estimated time keeps changing. It's now up to 15h.
It really depends on whether a generous miner will decide to include your transaction in a block. So the estimated time is really, REALLY estimate.
How could I do such if I wanted to?
Well, mine and generate a block including all transactions. Solo, I mean.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: escrow.ms on November 08, 2013, 06:16:41 PM
"1EoBx8yQNiMJqWVwmQWQwPenGuiUou9B7Z"

That's satoshidice's address?

I thought their address starts with "1dice" prefix. :P


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: Wipeout2097 on November 08, 2013, 06:26:28 PM
Just wait, there is still hope.

Here is your current estimated confirmation time    13 hours.


I had a transaction yesterday which was sent without a fee, and it had an estimated time of 28 hours. I checked it today and it was confirmed :)

It's been 24 hours and that estimated time keeps changing. It's now up to 15h.
It really depends on whether a generous miner will decide to include your transaction in a block. So the estimated time is really, REALLY estimate.
How could I do such if I wanted to?
Well, mine and generate a block including all transactions. Solo, I mean.
In other words, impossible with my very low hash rate 


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: Birdy on November 08, 2013, 06:34:11 PM
Yesterday I sent 0,1 to Satoshi Dice but it was set to no-fee on blockchain.info (I'm new, had no idea it would be THIS BAD).

I played on Satoshi Dice with it for a bit and made 1BTC from it. I got really excited, wanted to withdraw and saw the initial 0,1 is still unconfirmed. It's been 24 hours.

I don't really understand that, does Satoshi dice allow playing&withdrawing with unconfirmed Bitcoins? That would be so easy to abuse.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: mandelbaum_mandelbaum on November 08, 2013, 06:58:50 PM
Yesterday I sent 0,1 to Satoshi Dice but it was set to no-fee on blockchain.info (I'm new, had no idea it would be THIS BAD).

I played on Satoshi Dice with it for a bit and made 1BTC from it. I got really excited, wanted to withdraw and saw the initial 0,1 is still unconfirmed. It's been 24 hours.

I don't really understand that, does Satoshi dice allow playing&withdrawing with unconfirmed Bitcoins? That would be so easy to abuse.


Allows playing, doesn't allow withdrawing.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: mprep on November 08, 2013, 07:00:25 PM
Yesterday I sent 0,1 to Satoshi Dice but it was set to no-fee on blockchain.info (I'm new, had no idea it would be THIS BAD).

I played on Satoshi Dice with it for a bit and made 1BTC from it. I got really excited, wanted to withdraw and saw the initial 0,1 is still unconfirmed. It's been 24 hours.

I don't really understand that, does Satoshi dice allow playing&withdrawing with unconfirmed Bitcoins? That would be so easy to abuse.


Allows playing, doesn't allow withdrawing.
But if you lose, you just double spend your transaction before it's confirmed. That can be worrying as it might break the whole balance of casino.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: torry28 on November 08, 2013, 07:35:58 PM
But if you lose, you just double spend your transaction before it's confirmed. That can be worrying as it might break the whole balance of casino.

This. But double spending is not easy, you need some serious hash at disposal. I guess when you try double spend even with a fee, miners reject doublespending attempts


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: MAbtc on November 08, 2013, 07:47:18 PM
Still showing unconfirmed, but at least you don't have a warning that says "less than recommended fees." I have been waiting for 2 days for a no-fee transaction to confirm related to the inputs.io refunds.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: mandelbaum_mandelbaum on November 08, 2013, 07:51:37 PM
Still showing unconfirmed, but at least you don't have a warning that says "less than recommended fees." I have been waiting for 2 days for a no-fee transaction to confirm related to the inputs.io refunds.

I do have that warning.


Title: Re: Unconfirmed transaction - losing a lot of money because of 0,1 BTC
Post by: Ricke on November 08, 2013, 07:53:55 PM
Once when I sent a transaction without a fee although a fee was required, I had to wait over one week to confirm.

Lesson: Don't be tight with money if you can't wait.