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Title: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Mt.Fun on July 29, 2011, 03:08:30 PM Why is Mybitcoin.com advertised all over the place like they are some sort of reliable bitcoin service? I sent them a little over 2 Bitcoins and they appeared in my account very fast. I then withdrew them from Mybitcoin.com and sent them somewhere else only to find they never got there. I tried using their internal messaging system and no reply. It has been almost 24 hours and my Bitcoins are still missing. The balance on Mybitcoin.com is back to 0 and the transfer history shows they were sent, however, the address I sent them to does not appear in the block explorer. I am sure they were never sent and Mybitcoin.com has my balance at zero. I ask again: Why is Mybitcoin.com treated as a legitimate business? Once this happened I searched for info about this company and all I found was several people saying they were robbed too. Mybitcoin.com deserves to get sued and the Bitcoin community needs to blacklist them publicly so newbies don't get discouraged after being robbed.
Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: rampa on July 29, 2011, 03:29:15 PM Why is Mybitcoin.com advertised all over the place like they are some sort of reliable bitcoin service? I sent them a little over 2 Bitcoins and they appeared in my account very fast. I then withdrew them from Mybitcoin.com and sent them somewhere else only to find they never got there. I tried using their internal messaging system and no reply. It has been almost 24 hours and my Bitcoins are still missing. The balance on Mybitcoin.com is back to 0 and the transfer history shows they were sent, however, the address I sent them to does not appear in the block explorer. I am sure they were never sent and Mybitcoin.com has my balance at zero. I ask again: Why is Mybitcoin.com treated as a legitimate business? Once this happened I searched for info about this company and all I found was several people saying they were robbed too. Mybitcoin.com deserves to get sued and the Bitcoin community needs to blacklist them publicly so newbies don't get discouraged after being robbed. Strange. i am using mybitcoin as a payment gateway and had no problem with them. Quote the address I sent them to does not appear in the block explorer was it a valid address? Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Mt.Fun on July 29, 2011, 03:38:22 PM Why is Mybitcoin.com advertised all over the place like they are some sort of reliable bitcoin service? I sent them a little over 2 Bitcoins and they appeared in my account very fast. I then withdrew them from Mybitcoin.com and sent them somewhere else only to find they never got there. I tried using their internal messaging system and no reply. It has been almost 24 hours and my Bitcoins are still missing. The balance on Mybitcoin.com is back to 0 and the transfer history shows they were sent, however, the address I sent them to does not appear in the block explorer. I am sure they were never sent and Mybitcoin.com has my balance at zero. I ask again: Why is Mybitcoin.com treated as a legitimate business? Once this happened I searched for info about this company and all I found was several people saying they were robbed too. Mybitcoin.com deserves to get sued and the Bitcoin community needs to blacklist them publicly so newbies don't get discouraged after being robbed. Strange. i am using mybitcoin as a payment gateway and had no problem with them. Quote the address I sent them to does not appear in the block explorer was it a valid address? So you have sent Bitcoins from Mybitcoin.com to a local wallet successfully? It was a previously used address but as far as I can tell those addresses are valid forever, right? If it were invalid would the Bitcoins return to Mybitcoin.com? Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: rampa on July 29, 2011, 04:05:52 PM Quote So you have sent Bitcoins from Mybitcoin.com to a local wallet successfully? every day! :-) i got payments on mybitcoin and send them to my local wallet. also sometimes paying directly from mybitcoin for goods or services. Quote It was a previously used address but as far as I can tell those addresses are valid forever, right? If it were invalid would the Bitcoins return to Mybitcoin.com? i think they last forever.... but the strange is it is not showed in blockexplorer. dont know what happens if you send btc to an invalid address... Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Mt.Fun on July 29, 2011, 04:15:11 PM very depressing as that was my first mt. gox transaction. spent $30 and I can't justify losing money to bitcoin. seriously considering forgetting about bitcoin entirely.
Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: rampa on July 29, 2011, 04:37:03 PM very depressing as that was my first mt. gox transaction. spent $30 and I can't justify losing money to bitcoin. seriously considering forgetting about bitcoin entirely. consider starting a new thread asking what happens if somebody send btc to an invalid address.... may be somebody can give light about this. may be the transfer will return, but i dint know.... Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: SgtSpike on July 29, 2011, 04:46:40 PM Mybitcoin is a scam. I have no idea why anyone would still endorse them as a legitimate service after how many people I have seen losing BTC through it. I refuse to use it, and I will refuse to pay any website through it. I hope others do the same, and help get the word out about how mybitcoin is a scam.
http://bitcoinfeedback.com/viewuser.php?un=MyBitcoin%20LLC&id=195 Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: dancupid on July 29, 2011, 04:47:28 PM What's the address? Just check it on http://blockexplorer.com/. Maybe there is a problem with your bitcoin client.
Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: nefanon on July 29, 2011, 04:53:22 PM Mybitcoin is a scam. I have no idea why anyone would still endorse them as a legitimate service after how many people I have seen losing BTC through it. I refuse to use it, and I will refuse to pay any website through it. I hope others do the same, and help get the word out about how mybitcoin is a scam. http://bitcoinfeedback.com/viewuser.php?un=MyBitcoin%20LLC&id=195 Wow, that's really disturbing. One of the 1st things I did was sign up for MyBitcoin because I thought I saw it on a "beginner's guide". I'll have to inform whomever wrote it to remove it! Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Mt.Fun on July 29, 2011, 04:58:51 PM What's the address? Just check it on http://blockexplorer.com/. Maybe there is a problem with your bitcoin client. Doesn't appear on blockexplorer. Leads me to believe it was never sent and mybitcoin just kept the BTC and set my balance to 0. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Xephan on July 29, 2011, 05:02:44 PM very depressing as that was my first mt. gox transaction. spent $30 and I can't justify losing money to bitcoin. seriously considering forgetting about bitcoin entirely. consider starting a new thread asking what happens if somebody send btc to an invalid address.... may be somebody can give light about this. may be the transfer will return, but i dint know.... It's lost permanently if the address is valid but non-existent. If invalid, the client won't even send it out I believe. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: SgtSpike on July 29, 2011, 05:31:00 PM What's the address? Just check it on http://blockexplorer.com/. Maybe there is a problem with your bitcoin client. Doesn't appear on blockexplorer. Leads me to believe it was never sent and mybitcoin just kept the BTC and set my balance to 0. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Lord T on July 29, 2011, 05:52:08 PM It's lost permanently if the address is valid but non-existent. If invalid, the client won't even send it out I believe. Interesting. Won't it just wait until the wallet comes back online. In the case of someone sending to a valid address not yet created would it not suddenly gain that amount when it was created? I thought it's a bit like a text message. Waits till it turns on then sends it. If not people need to leave their wallets on all the time and we know that isn't true. So maybe if there was a time limit of X days/weeks/months? Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: SgtSpike on July 29, 2011, 05:57:29 PM It's lost permanently if the address is valid but non-existent. If invalid, the client won't even send it out I believe. Interesting. Won't it just wait until the wallet comes back online. In the case of someone sending to a valid address not yet created would it not suddenly gain that amount when it was created? I thought it's a bit like a text message. Waits till it turns on then sends it. If not people need to leave their wallets on all the time and we know that isn't true. So maybe if there was a time limit of X days/weeks/months? You can send to a bitcoin address that is in no one's wallet, which is what Xephan was referring to. In this case, the bitcoins are effectively lost (it would take billions of years to accidentally stumble on the private key related to that bitcoin address). Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Oldminer on July 29, 2011, 05:59:06 PM I suggest staying away from mybitcoin. As I speak, their page doesnt even load...
Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Lord T on July 29, 2011, 06:11:14 PM It's lost permanently if the address is valid but non-existent. If invalid, the client won't even send it out I believe. Interesting. Won't it just wait until the wallet comes back online. In the case of someone sending to a valid address not yet created would it not suddenly gain that amount when it was created? I thought it's a bit like a text message. Waits till it turns on then sends it. If not people need to leave their wallets on all the time and we know that isn't true. So maybe if there was a time limit of X days/weeks/months? You can send to a bitcoin address that is in no one's wallet, which is what Xephan was referring to. In this case, the bitcoins are effectively lost (it would take billions of years to accidentally stumble on the private key related to that bitcoin address). Makes sense. If it does not exist the key has not yet been created so it should be detected at send. So it should not send to an invalid address. Does it though? If it was valid but the wallet was offline, it would have a valid key and be sent. Wouldn't it then wait till the wallet was online? If not I need to leave my wallet online all the time to wait for the millions I am being sent. That doesn't sound right. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Xephan on July 29, 2011, 06:56:22 PM Makes sense. If it does not exist the key has not yet been created so it should be detected at send. So it should not send to an invalid address. Does it though? An invalid address is not the same as a non-existent address :D Something like this "mywalletaddress" would be invalid and non-existent Something that looks like this "186q9YUW3x8TVHC5aYBEqgZZYMxft8Cw9f" may be valid but non-existent. Quote If it was valid but the wallet was offline, it would have a valid key and be sent. Wouldn't it then wait till the wallet was online? If not I need to leave my wallet online all the time to wait for the millions I am being sent. That doesn't sound right. No, all transactions are pushed into the network and recorded in the blocks regardless of whether the address is online. When you bring your wallet online, it will scan the newer blocks for addresses that you are using, then update itself accordingly. So in theory somebody could fire up their wallet 50 years from now and immediately receive some bitcoins from a mistaken transaction done today. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: dayfall on July 29, 2011, 07:20:54 PM Does it show up in http://bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/?
Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: edd on July 29, 2011, 08:23:25 PM If the destination address has been used before, shouldn't it show up in blockexplorer even if this transaction was somehow invalidated?
Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Mt.Fun on July 29, 2011, 08:55:36 PM If the destination address has been used before, shouldn't it show up in blockexplorer even if this transaction was somehow invalidated? yes the original transaction with that address is in the block explorer but not the one from mybitcoin. they were for different amounts and made on different days so it is obvious. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: hank on July 29, 2011, 11:01:22 PM Also having trouble with MyBitcoin...
Transfer was confirmed on their website, but no trace in block explorer. Even stranger is that the incoming transfer from another mybitcoin user with which I funded the outgoing transfer is not present in block explorer either! It seems I never had the money I never received. ??? Now the mybitcoin site is down and I'm wondering if I will ever see that currency again. Maybe (hopefully) they took the site down after noticing these problems and the outstanding transfers will be initiated when (if) it comes back online. This is a huge headache. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: strigona on July 29, 2011, 11:25:39 PM Why is Mybitcoin.com advertised all over the place like they are some sort of reliable bitcoin service? I sent them a little over 2 Bitcoins and they appeared in my account very fast. I then withdrew them from Mybitcoin.com and sent them somewhere else only to find they never got there. I tried using their internal messaging system and no reply. It has been almost 24 hours and my Bitcoins are still missing. The balance on Mybitcoin.com is back to 0 and the transfer history shows they were sent, however, the address I sent them to does not appear in the block explorer. I am sure they were never sent and Mybitcoin.com has my balance at zero. I ask again: Why is Mybitcoin.com treated as a legitimate business? Once this happened I searched for info about this company and all I found was several people saying they were robbed too. Mybitcoin.com deserves to get sued and the Bitcoin community needs to blacklist them publicly so newbies don't get discouraged after being robbed. I know it's been several hours since this thread was started but... it can take some time for transactions to be processed and appear in Block Explorer and your wallet. If you haven't downloaded all of the blocks on your computer then you won't be able to see your incoming transaction. You have not provided us with the address that you sent your bitcoins to and have left us no way of verifying your claim. I'm just covering some of the basics and I'm not defending MyBitcoin at all. I just checked and their site is down, who knows why or when it'll be up. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: JoelKatz on July 29, 2011, 11:28:09 PM If you initiate a transaction, wait a few hours, and the transaction doesn't appear in block explorer, then the coins weren't sent. Placing a transaction in the public hash chain is essentially the definition of "sent" in this context.
Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: casascius on July 29, 2011, 11:31:24 PM ...Even stranger is that the incoming transfer from another mybitcoin user with which I funded the outgoing transfer is not present in block explorer either! It seems I never had the money I never received. ???... This particular detail is consistent with how it is advertised. MyBitcoin-to-MyBitcoin transfers are done on MyBitcoin's records and not on the block chain. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: hank on July 30, 2011, 12:05:45 AM ...Even stranger is that the incoming transfer from another mybitcoin user with which I funded the outgoing transfer is not present in block explorer either! It seems I never had the money I never received. ???... This particular detail is consistent with how it is advertised. MyBitcoin-to-MyBitcoin transfers are done on MyBitcoin's records and not on the block chain. That's good to know, especially when searching block explorer - coins involved in a transfer might come from some other address. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: hank on July 30, 2011, 12:10:18 AM If you initiate a transaction, wait a few hours, and the transaction doesn't appear in block explorer, then the coins weren't sent. Placing a transaction in the public hash chain is essentially the definition of "sent" in this context. Exactly, for Mt. Fun and I MyBitcoin is deducting funds from our accounts but not initiating a transaction to the recipient. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Ryuguy on July 30, 2011, 12:45:04 AM Good to know. Thank you!
Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: dancupid on July 30, 2011, 01:42:05 AM The site does appear to be down.
Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Mt.Fun on July 30, 2011, 01:59:36 AM If you initiate a transaction, wait a few hours, and the transaction doesn't appear in block explorer, then the coins weren't sent. Placing a transaction in the public hash chain is essentially the definition of "sent" in this context. Exactly, for Mt. Fun and I MyBitcoin is deducting funds from our accounts but not initiating a transaction to the recipient. Exactly correct. The funds sent appear in the block explorer and arrived in Mybitcoin. Then I sent them from Mybitcoin to another wallet and they never got there and the transaction is not in the block explorer but Mybitcoin records the payment as sent. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Mt.Fun on July 30, 2011, 02:03:02 AM If you initiate a transaction, wait a few hours, and the transaction doesn't appear in block explorer, then the coins weren't sent. Placing a transaction in the public hash chain is essentially the definition of "sent" in this context. Dude, terrible picture by the way. Not trying to be offensive; I just don't like looking at that face on my computer. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: NothinG on July 30, 2011, 03:25:06 AM If you initiate a transaction, wait a few hours, and the transaction doesn't appear in block explorer, then the coins weren't sent. Placing a transaction in the public hash chain is essentially the definition of "sent" in this context. Dude, terrible picture by the way. Not trying to be offensive; I just don't like looking at that face on my computer. Anyways, stick on-topic. PM's work amazingly. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: heliosxx on July 30, 2011, 03:44:52 PM It's been nearly a month since they stole one from me, I stopped using them the next week after several messages to them and no response. I've been back to see if the coin showed up, or a response given. Neither have happened. (FYI it's a payout from Slush, shows in coinexplorer, with correct wallet, doesn't show in account).
Now it looks like the site is down. I believe the site has decayed due to negligence, rather than outright scam, but it seems like there's no point in doing business with them anymore. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Optonic on July 30, 2011, 04:03:30 PM Until today I had no problems when using MyBitcoin. Sending and receiving BTC worked out the way it should. What I am trying to say: maybe it was just a bug, not a scam. Not answering to support requests–which you said they haven't–is a sad thing nevertheless. At the very moment it appears the site is down for some reason but I guess it'll be up in a few <insert-guess-here>.
Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: dancupid on July 30, 2011, 04:18:06 PM Did they have a terms and condition on their site? Did they give their business address? A quick look a google cache seems to show nothing like that. Why would anyone trust such a site?
Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: rampa on July 30, 2011, 04:44:00 PM Until today I had no problems when using MyBitcoin. Sending and receiving BTC worked out the way it should. What I am trying to say: maybe it was just a bug, not a scam. Not answering to support requests–which you said they haven't–is a sad thing nevertheless. At the very moment it appears the site is down for some reason but I guess it'll be up in a few <insert-guess-here>. yes. two weeks ago they had a problem with all the passwords and also nobody told nothing to the users. i hope the come back online, as (as far as i know) there is no other payment gateway.... Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Optonic on July 30, 2011, 04:59:16 PM yes. two weeks ago they had a problem with all the passwords and also nobody told nothing to the users. Haven't heard of this problem. What was it exactly about?Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: rampa on July 30, 2011, 06:16:38 PM yes. two weeks ago they had a problem with all the passwords and also nobody told nothing to the users. Haven't heard of this problem. What was it exactly about?last month, (after the mtgox incident) on a weekend) http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=25652.msg319047#msg319047 on monday, all was fine.... Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: hank on July 30, 2011, 10:30:34 PM I tried to call the phone number listed in mybitcoin.com's whois file and found out it's disconnected.
Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: incraft3817 on July 31, 2011, 01:11:58 AM Why is Mybitcoin.com advertised all over the place like they are some sort of reliable bitcoin service? I sent them a little over 2 Bitcoins and they appeared in my account very fast. I then withdrew them from Mybitcoin.com and sent them somewhere else only to find they never got there. I tried using their internal messaging system and no reply. It has been almost 24 hours and my Bitcoins are still missing. The balance on Mybitcoin.com is back to 0 and the transfer history shows they were sent, however, the address I sent them to does not appear in the block explorer. I am sure they were never sent and Mybitcoin.com has my balance at zero. I ask again: Why is Mybitcoin.com treated as a legitimate business? Once this happened I searched for info about this company and all I found was several people saying they were robbed too. Mybitcoin.com deserves to get sued and the Bitcoin community needs to blacklist them publicly so newbies don't get discouraged after being robbed. Strange. i am using mybitcoin as a payment gateway and had no problem with them. Quote the address I sent them to does not appear in the block explorer was it a valid address? Mybitcoin doesnt send to invalid address. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Mt.Fun on July 31, 2011, 02:28:19 AM I tried to call the phone number listed in mybitcoin.com's whois file and found out it's disconnected. They absconded with our Bitcoins. :'( The pain and suffering introduced into the world by Mybitcoin.com will be returned to Tom Williams-operator of Mybitcoin.com-by God. We will be avenged seven fold. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Xephan on July 31, 2011, 03:49:41 AM I tried to call the phone number listed in mybitcoin.com's whois file and found out it's disconnected. They absconded with our Bitcoins. :'( The pain and suffering introduced into the world by Mybitcoin.com will be returned to Tom Williams-operator of Mybitcoin.com-by God. We will be avenged seven fold. Seems like it, their site appears to be down. How much bitcoin did they hold to make it worth running away? Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: done on July 31, 2011, 03:56:08 AM I tried to call the phone number listed in mybitcoin.com's whois file and found out it's disconnected. They absconded with our Bitcoins. :'( The pain and suffering introduced into the world by Mybitcoin.com will be returned to Tom Williams-operator of Mybitcoin.com-by God. We will be avenged seven fold. Seems like it, their site appears to be down. How much bitcoin did they hold to make it worth running away? They were one of the original sites for the community. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: pizzaman on July 31, 2011, 08:57:35 AM Whois mybitcoin.com
The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and Registrars. Registrant: MyBitcoin, LLC Main Street PO Box 556 Charlestown, Nevis KN Domain name: MYBITCOIN.COM Administrative Contact: Williams, Tom abuse@mybitcoin.com Main Street PO Box 556 Charlestown, Nevis KN +6499518329 Technical Contact: Williams, Tom abuse@mybitcoin.com Main Street PO Box 556 Charlestown, Nevis KN +6499518329 Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: dancupid on July 31, 2011, 09:46:00 AM There was a big sale of 10000 btc that seem to have been dumped at the cheapest price (5am UTC). It looks like an odd sale to me.
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg2zvztgSzm1g10zm2g25 Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: NothinG on July 31, 2011, 09:53:56 AM There was a big sale of 10000 btc that seem to have been dumped at the cheapest price (5am UTC). It looks like an odd sale to me. If it was the owner of MyBitcoin, wouldn't he used the Darknet (or darkpool...etc).http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg2zvztgSzm1g10zm2g25 Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: toddbethell on July 31, 2011, 12:56:52 PM 1000btc frozen, lost or stolen by MyBitcoin?
By Todd Bethell On 12 July 2011, 1000btc MtGox to MyBitcoin. On 28 July 2011, 1000btc MyBitcoin to MtGox. 28 June 2011, payment notification was received. 8hrs later (the site was still up) visual verification was done in account history of the transaction and correct address. 48 hrs later still no coins. This is where I need a block explorer expert. 21 minutes after MyBitcoin received the btc block explorer shows the coins from that wallet being split and transmitted hundreds of times all the way down to 1 Satoshi. Question: 1. Is this normal or a sign of fraud making it impossible to track? 2. Are all wallets effectively used as ‘pool wallets’ for payouts? 3. While I am not accusing MyBitcoin of theft, itn’t plosible that 97fa1e8f85... Block 135867 (2011-07-12 07:06:54) 1000 Received: Address • 1DeAkzL1MBriA37pHS46Nu1xcCzJ5sPupH 1000 80641db425... Block 135870 (2011-07-12 07:27:05) 1000 Sent: Address • 17e8zfFzVkKtx4ofdeoYHhdvu1cTKCpv2r • 1NgjsaazumvjaR3WZuLqqKEed79RneQy2Q 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- MyBitcoin Payment Notification MyBitcoin Robot [nobody@mybitcoin.com] toddbethell@fastscanning.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, This is a payment notification from MyBitcoin. You have sent Bitcoins! Transaction Number: 245107 Transaction Date/Time: 2011-07-28 22:30:02 To: 18jsFKuKZ4w8mhdTYy9bZKKHmkZNSZrRUC From: 19vKB489Lx1rxqS366f63mKDLXp6q3v3Ct Amount: -1000.00 Payment Note: MtGox businessaccount1 Thank you. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MBC v1.0 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOMeLqAAoJEJ+5g06lAnqF2ZYH/0FYDSmSxQa4l8+Q50e+1qEN r9D6GXVPo5A4jXzgjtXTs2Rj2WmbLnsm2I8vc+fQFvniUiZT3nSbixVAU9wPm0w6 cTD8gNvEe+P9aNttZqGxa9xnCOVkE4ypF+n4jEmE/e3H5yh6Ix0oCI50luIeQZir e0/5sF7ZbWDWhNta9+A6yvWYEI7KLZK+zke8EbLmB3YIDZ+EpaegrT74H6s7fHRR cSopmnyDXX1biS8Mao7GSoTgXuPOTaMRae+4SN4pL1aoRZahWX/SsLXDj2Skjc/4 jtLBq7RLb8x3wo23IiURyzKZJr1Cw75cTULdLcNoUZajewapxIqA9DhFJK8HlSk= =EFK8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Approximately 8hrs later the coins had not been credited to my MtGox account. MyBitcoin was still up. My account history showed the coins had been sent and the sent to address was verified correct. Security Note: The instant before clicking the send button (perhaps when my mouse hovered over it) I notice a screen blink or something changed, but it was too late to avoid clicking the button. Q1. Has my computer been compromised such that the send address was swapped at the last instant? Q2. If this is so, how could the correct address be recorded in the MyBitcoin data base? Q3. Is it coincidence that the MyBitcoin service has gone down for 48hrs with nary a peep from its owner? A person who was very proactive and vocal during the MtGox incident. Q4. I’m hard pressed to think of a technical reason how or why a transaction confirmation bot would send confirmation of btc transmission before such a transmission had actually occurred. Let alone consciously programmed in this way. It would seem that the bot was part of the book keeping data base and not confirming actual transmission from a ‘hot’ wallet. Q5. It seems that the way MyBitcoins was using the wallets of its members (pooling them as a matter of operational efficiency or draining them as a scam??) this makes it impossible to track coins or analyze if they are insolvent? Q6. Was my 1000btc withdrawal lower to water level in his 'hot wallet' enough to show Tom was swimming without a suit? In other words, for whatever reason, he was operating insolvent? I would not normally keep so many coins in an on-line wallet but this was in preparation for a business transaction that was delayed. I am preparing a blog and forum post or lessons learned and recommendations going forward: If anyone has further information please post it here and send to my email also, or give me a call. Skype: toddbethell Email: toddbethell@fastscanning.com Cell: 1-949-394-5932 ----------------------------------------- Action taken: Phone: +6499518329 (always busy) Emailed: enquiries were sent to abuse@mybitcoin.com It is well know that Tom… only replys to ‘in-mail’ on his site. Tom Williams Main Street PO Box 556 Charlestown, Nevis, KN Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Optonic on July 31, 2011, 06:06:19 PM There was a big sale of 10000 btc that seem to have been dumped at the cheapest price (5am UTC). It looks like an odd sale to me. If it was the owner of MyBitcoin, wouldn't he used the Darknet (or darkpool...etc).http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg2zvztgSzm1g10zm2g25 There is no darkpool at Mt. Gox anymore. Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: Bitportal on August 01, 2011, 08:16:54 AM Lol 1000btc. :o
Title: Re: MyBitcoin stole 2 bitcoins from me Post by: SgtSpike on August 02, 2011, 05:34:29 PM Before anyone else starts ANOTHER thread about this, please realize that the UABB is already spearheading a legal and unbiased investigation into MyBitcoin.com but needs your support. Discussion about MyBitcoin.com is very healthy for the sharing of ideas and suggestions on how to tackle this very serious and difficult problem, but nothing will be done about it through forum posts. I thought previous spammers were bad... 20+ posts saying the SAME THING?Please start contributing to the actual investigation by adding your affidavit, attaching evidence of funds lost, and contributing to the fund to pay for international investigators. Thank you. http://uabci.org/redmine/projects/mbci (http://uabci.org/redmine/projects/mbci) Stop, just stop. Anyone and everyone who cares about their bitcoins stuck in mybitcoin has seen or will see your post. They don't need to read it two dozen times. |