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Title: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on November 10, 2013, 06:10:00 AM
Seriously?  ???

Now I'm disappointed. This has got to be the most anticlimactic bubble ever. Less than 50% price gain over the last bubble, followed by a crash not only smaller in % terms, but smaller even in flat $ terms. Gox didn't even get DDOSed, for god's sake. Worst. Bubble. Ever.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: beetcoin on November 10, 2013, 06:20:31 AM
what do you expect? BTC is a lot more stable now.. more infrastructure, new market in china and with possible major players coming in from china. every bubble and crash should get smaller and smaller.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: freequant on November 10, 2013, 06:22:57 AM
Seriously?  ???
Now I'm disappointed. This has got to be the most anticlimactic bubble ever. Less than 50% price gain over the last bubble, followed by a crash not only smaller in % terms, but smaller even in flat $ terms.
Don't worry, bull traps are normal during a bubble pop.

Gox didn't even get DDOSed, for god's sake. Worst. Bubble. Ever.
Even botnets stopped using Gox ;)


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: derpinheimer on November 10, 2013, 06:35:41 AM
Seriously?  ???

Now I'm disappointed. This has got to be the most anticlimactic bubble ever. Less than 50% price gain over the last bubble, followed by a crash not only smaller in % terms, but smaller even in flat $ terms. Gox didn't even get DDOSed, for god's sake. Worst. Bubble. Ever.

Why say it now? This could have been a correction along the way up, it could have been the initialization of a bubble pop.. who knows?

Its like if someone said most boring bubble ever at the last main correction ~270. What happened next? Runup to $395.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: deisik on November 10, 2013, 06:40:33 AM
Even botnets stopped using Gox ;)

What's wrong with Mt.Gox? I'm only ~20 days into Bitcoin, not yet trading (now collecting dust here and there)


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: adamstgBit on November 10, 2013, 06:45:01 AM
Even botnets stopped using Gox ;)

What's wrong with Mt.Gox? I'm only ~20 days into Bitcoin, not yet trading (now collecting dust here and there)

in short. Banks hate them



Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: deisik on November 10, 2013, 06:53:27 AM
in short. Banks hate them

So where do you all guys trade your coins, Coinbase?


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: MAbtc on November 10, 2013, 07:03:35 AM
in short. Banks hate them

So where do you all guys trade your coins, Coinbase?
I trade on BTC-E. There is lower liquidity there, generally, than Gox or Stamp, and panic usually sets in pretty fast there. It can make for a nice quick BTC profit on days like today.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: papaminer on November 10, 2013, 07:10:41 AM

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Even botnets stopped using Gox ;)


HAHAHAHA thanks for the laugh


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: deisik on November 10, 2013, 07:13:01 AM
I trade on BTC-E. There is lower liquidity there, generally, than Gox or Stamp, and panic usually sets in pretty fast there. It can make for a nice quick BTC profit on days like today.

What ways do I get money there and out of there (USD&BTC)? Do they work with paypal or only american bank accounts are allowed?


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: MAbtc on November 10, 2013, 07:14:26 AM
I trade on BTC-E. There is lower liquidity there, generally, than Gox or Stamp, and panic usually sets in pretty fast there. It can make for a nice quick BTC profit on days like today.

What ways do I get money there and out of there (USD&BTC)? Do they work with paypal or only american bank accounts are allowed?
It's Russian. I'm not sure on the options.... I think they take OKPay, EgoPay, some other things like that. I've never tried to use services like that. I would just trade P2P for BTC or BTC-E code.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: deisik on November 10, 2013, 07:19:47 AM
It's Russian. I'm not sure on the options.... I think they take OKPay, EgoPay, some other things like that. I've never tried to use services like that. I would just trade P2P for BTC or BTC-E code.

Surely, I wouldn't trust them! ;D
There was an exchange which ended with the owner running away with the money, lol (there are a couple of topics here)...


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: Missionary on November 10, 2013, 12:22:43 PM
In Russia, the exchange trades you.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: deisik on November 10, 2013, 12:35:32 PM
In Russia, the exchange trades you.

In Soviet Russia, lol... ;D


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: BitcoinAshley on November 10, 2013, 01:31:35 PM
That was a pretty lame crash.

I hope this short stable period is either a bull trap in disguise, or this whole thing was a uber-clever bear trap and we'll be hitting the next leg up on Tuesday.



Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: Mageant on November 10, 2013, 01:40:47 PM
Not sure. It will need a few more days to tell.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: dalexc on November 10, 2013, 01:48:13 PM
The "crash" may not be over yet. It could be setting itself up for another leg down. It could also be getting ready to move much higher preparing for an even bigger crash.

Either way, I'm loving this volatility.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: Xer0 on November 10, 2013, 02:27:56 PM
has anyone a screenshot of the last 12h?

bitcoincharts.com is down and the others dont work on OperaMini


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: dalexc on November 10, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
has anyone a screenshot of the last 12h?

bitcoincharts.com is down and the others dont work on OperaMini

tradingview.com has phenomenal charts.

https://www.tradingview.com/e/?symbol=MTGOX%3ABTCUSD


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: elasticband on November 10, 2013, 02:35:47 PM
in short. Banks hate them

So where do you all guys trade your coins, Coinbase?
I trade on BTC-E. There is lower liquidity there, generally, than Gox or Stamp, and panic usually sets in pretty fast there. It can make for a nice quick BTC profit on days like today.

The best action is on BTC-E, fast falling and fast climbing, generally faster the other exchanges.  the place rocks :)


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: Xer0 on November 10, 2013, 02:40:19 PM
has anyone a screenshot of the last 12h?

bitcoincharts.com is down and the others dont work on OperaMini

tradingview.com has phenomenal charts.

https://www.tradingview.com/e/?symbol=MTGOX%3ABTCUSD

does not work too, need something withou JavaScript :(

im on a train, a real one, choo choo!


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: balanghai on November 10, 2013, 02:40:46 PM
Maybe you're expecting a $100 crash. Hahahaha.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: deisik on November 10, 2013, 03:16:44 PM
I trade on BTC-E. There is lower liquidity there, generally, than Gox or Stamp, and panic usually sets in pretty fast there. It can make for a nice quick BTC profit on days like today.

The best action is on BTC-E, fast falling and fast climbing, generally faster the other exchanges.  the place rocks :)

Low liquidity usually means that the execution of an order may take too long (and there is too wide a spread), so it may happen that when you actually should buy, you will instead be selling and vice versa...


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: dalexc on November 10, 2013, 03:19:09 PM
has anyone a screenshot of the last 12h?

bitcoincharts.com is down and the others dont work on OperaMini

tradingview.com has phenomenal charts.

https://www.tradingview.com/e/?symbol=MTGOX%3ABTCUSD

does not work too, need something withou JavaScript :(

im on a train, a real one, choo choo!

Oh fair enough.

Then it looks like your out of look.  :P

If you're willing to trust a stranger technical insight. BTC is due for another leg out. Pull out and wait on the side for a while.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on November 10, 2013, 03:46:13 PM
We may be in for another "leg" down, but I don't think that it can be anything very significant. Maybe we can fall another 10%, but I think the chances of getting below $266 again is pretty much 0 at this point, so just trying to get that 10%, when you could be looking at 20% - 30% upward moves, even in the short term without breaking a new ATH, is sort of silly.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: dalexc on November 10, 2013, 04:01:14 PM
We may be in for another "leg" down, but I don't think that it can be anything very significant. Maybe we can fall another 10%, but I think the chances of getting below $266 again is pretty much 0 at this point, so just trying to get that 10%, when you could be looking at 20% - 30% upward moves, even in the short term without breaking a new ATH, is sort of silly.

Current price of BTC is 300 at Mt Gox.

A 10% correction will bring us to 270. That's dangerously close to the 266 number you just predicted there's 0% of going under. Is it possible? Sure. I personally just think calling tops and bottoms is quite foolish. No one sincerely knows the bottom or top. It's far better to follow the general direction and trend and at the moment until it reverses, that trend is down.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: antimattercrusader on November 10, 2013, 06:01:52 PM
Seriously?  ???

Now I'm disappointed. This has got to be the most anticlimactic bubble ever. Less than 50% price gain over the last bubble, followed by a crash not only smaller in % terms, but smaller even in flat $ terms. Gox didn't even get DDOSed, for god's sake. Worst. Bubble. Ever.

lmao, this is a good sign my friend.




We may be in for another "leg" down, but I don't think that it can be anything very significant. Maybe we can fall another 10%, but I think the chances of getting below $266 again is pretty much 0 at this point, so just trying to get that 10%, when you could be looking at 20% - 30% upward moves, even in the short term without breaking a new ATH, is sort of silly.

Current price of BTC is 300 at Mt Gox.

A 10% correction will bring us to 270. That's dangerously close to the 266 number you just predicted there's 0% of going under. Is it possible? Sure. I personally just think calling tops and bottoms is quite foolish. No one sincerely knows the bottom or top. It's far better to follow the general direction and trend and at the moment until it reverses, that trend is down.

Indeed, sir, indeed. But it is fun! And then we can hold people to it  8)


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on November 10, 2013, 06:04:43 PM
We may be in for another "leg" down, but I don't think that it can be anything very significant. Maybe we can fall another 10%, but I think the chances of getting below $266 again is pretty much 0 at this point, so just trying to get that 10%, when you could be looking at 20% - 30% upward moves, even in the short term without breaking a new ATH, is sort of silly.

Current price of BTC is 300 at Mt Gox.

A 10% correction will bring us to 270. That's dangerously close to the 266 number you just predicted there's 0% of going under. Is it possible? Sure. I personally just think calling tops and bottoms is quite foolish. No one sincerely knows the bottom or top. It's far better to follow the general direction and trend and at the moment until it reverses, that trend is down.
Ok? We haven't even stayed sub 300 for any period of time that isn't silly. Just give the bids & asks some time to fill in. We're staying right about here for a while now.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: Xer0 on November 10, 2013, 06:26:15 PM
has anyone a screenshot of the last 12h?

bitcoincharts.com is down and the others dont work on OperaMini

tradingview.com has phenomenal charts.

https://www.tradingview.com/e/?symbol=MTGOX%3ABTCUSD

does not work too, need something withou JavaScript :(

im on a train, a real one, choo choo!

Oh fair enough.

Then it looks like your out of look.  :P

If you're willing to trust a stranger technical insight. BTC is due for another leg out. Pull out and wait on the side for a while.

btcharts is up again. looks creepy! waiting for Monday...


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: oda.krell on November 10, 2013, 06:46:06 PM
Seriously?  ???

Now I'm disappointed. This has got to be the most anticlimactic bubble ever. Less than 50% price gain over the last bubble, followed by a crash not only smaller in % terms, but smaller even in flat $ terms. Gox didn't even get DDOSed, for god's sake. Worst. Bubble. Ever.

I'm so glad someone gets it.

AAA+++!!! very amusing, would read again.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: Tirapon on November 10, 2013, 06:54:04 PM
Seriously?  ???

Now I'm disappointed. This has got to be the most anticlimactic bubble ever. Less than 50% price gain over the last bubble, followed by a crash not only smaller in % terms, but smaller even in flat $ terms. Gox didn't even get DDOSed, for god's sake. Worst. Bubble. Ever.

I'm so glad someone gets it.

AAA+++!!! very amusing, would read again.

Don't worry, the bubble has only just started.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: deisik on November 10, 2013, 06:55:44 PM
Don't worry, the bubble has only just started.

To swell? ;D


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: JimboToronto on November 10, 2013, 07:17:50 PM
uber-clever bear trap 

Uber-clever?

Seems more like a typical average bear trap to me.

Big rise, normal correction, and a few bears turn into Chicken Little.

Meanwhile it seems to be forming a triangle, ready to move on up again.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on November 10, 2013, 08:20:09 PM
uber-clever bear trap  

Uber-clever?

Seems more like a typical average bear trap to me.

Big rise, normal correction, and a few bears turn into Chicken Little.

Meanwhile it seems to be forming a triangle, ready to move on up again.

Where is the triangle. I just see range trading.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: superduh on November 11, 2013, 01:57:44 AM
worst, crash, ever


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: BitcoinAshley on November 11, 2013, 02:02:06 AM
Yeah this is still a pretty lame crash. What's it gonna do, hang around in the 300s for a while just to scare us, then shoot on up again? Or *gasp* "CRASH" all the way down to two fitty? I mean, come on, Bitcoin, you can do better than this. Give us something that will make even the seasoned folks shit their pants, whether it's down or up. 

EDIT: Straight down to double digits or straight up to quadruple digits. Doesn't matter which. THAT's the bitcoin we know and love.

EDIT 2: Tomorrow's warmonger appreciation day in USSAmurr'ka. (The newspeak for that is Veteran's Day. How nice!) Celebrate by wiring some oil/war/blood money to an exchange, we can start the next rally on thursday.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on November 11, 2013, 02:56:55 AM
EDIT 2: Tomorrow's warmonger appreciation day in USSAmurr'ka. (The newspeak for that is Veteran's Day. How nice!) Celebrate by wiring some oil/war/blood money to an exchange, we can start the next rally on thursday.

I would, only in celebration, the money wire lines are apparently dysfunctional.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: Kipsy89 on November 11, 2013, 04:19:27 AM
that wasn't the crash, it will be much harder and from much higher, coming fairly soon, give it time to run up.  :D


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on November 11, 2013, 04:43:59 AM
that wasn't the crash, it will be much harder and from much higher, coming fairly soon, give it time to run up.  :D

It looks like the crash, and it sort of felt like the crash, as there were random people coming out of the woodwork saying idiotic stuff like "ITZ GOING 2 150!!!"


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: TERA on November 11, 2013, 06:39:51 AM
in short. Banks hate them

So where do you all guys trade your coins, Coinbase?
I trade on BTC-E. There is lower liquidity there, generally, than Gox or Stamp, and panic usually sets in pretty fast there. It can make for a nice quick BTC profit on days like today.

The best action is on BTC-E, fast falling and fast climbing, generally faster the other exchanges.  the place rocks :)
Also btce follows gox moves exactly. So all you need to do there in order to trade is watch clarkmoody. On other exchanges it's not quite as easy.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: deisik on November 11, 2013, 07:38:11 AM
Also btce follows gox moves exactly. So all you need to do there in order to trade is watch clarkmoody. On other exchanges it's not quite as easy.

Aha, you also need liquidity, read a fool who will buy from you/sell to you (provided you're not the one in the first place)


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: JimboToronto on November 11, 2013, 01:56:08 PM
Where is the triangle. I just see range trading.
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv10/JimboToronto/btcpennant.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/JimboToronto/media/btcpennant.jpg.html)
Looks like a classic flagpole and pennant to me.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: BitcoinAshley on November 11, 2013, 03:19:51 PM
that wasn't the crash, it will be much harder and from much higher, coming fairly soon, give it time to run up.  :D

It looks like the crash, and it sort of felt like the crash, as there were random people coming out of the woodwork saying idiotic stuff like "ITZ GOING 2 150!!!"


During the actual crash, most of the retards who are currently perma-bears will have converted to bulls right at the top, so there will be a lot more denial.

There wasn't enough denial this time around. So we're going back up  ;D


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on November 11, 2013, 03:53:34 PM
Where is the triangle. I just see range trading.
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv10/JimboToronto/btcpennant.jpg (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/JimboToronto/media/btcpennant.jpg.html)
Looks like a classic flagpole and pennant to me.

Looks like plain old range trading from me, with retracement.

Seriously, the floor is like, a floor. There is no incline or decline. You could argue there's a declining top in this graph, except we sorta just broke that triangle just now. Also volume doesn't support the triangle.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: AndrewWilliams on November 11, 2013, 10:25:45 PM
I have a feeling we are all in for a big surprise in the next 3 weeks :D


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: DoomDumas on November 13, 2013, 12:53:56 PM
Even botnets stopped using Gox ;)

What's wrong with Mt.Gox? I'm only ~20 days into Bitcoin, not yet trading (now collecting dust here and there)

Just dont use MtGox


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: deisik on November 13, 2013, 01:00:56 PM
Just dont use MtGox

But why and what are other options? ???


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: Gabi on November 13, 2013, 01:01:55 PM
We just crashed to the all time high. These days crashes are very weird.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: deisik on November 13, 2013, 01:03:02 PM
We just crashed to the all time high. These days crashes are very weird.

Crashed?! Lol... ;D


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: BitcoinAshley on November 13, 2013, 01:03:20 PM
Yes, folks... THAT WAS THE "CRASH."  ::)

Also, I was wrong. I said $400 on Tuesday. It's Wednesday and Gox sits at $400.70 as I type this.

Go Bitcoin!


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: Sage on November 13, 2013, 01:04:23 PM
Not the crash... not yet... just a 50% correction from it's last surge.

We are about to see it break its all time high.  It's gearing up for another run...

But the crash will come.  Now's not the time to buy.


Title: Re: Was... that the crash -.-
Post by: deisik on November 13, 2013, 01:04:29 PM
Yes, folks... THAT WAS THE "CRASH."  ::)

Also, I was wrong. I said $400 on Tuesday. It's Wednesday and Gox sits at $400.70 as I type this.

Go Bitcoin!

I stake at 500$