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PLAYTIN - anonymous mixing web wallet - off-chain transactions (https://playt.in)

Over the last months we have noticed an increased amount of accounts that seems to be using our casino wallets as some sort of anonymous web wallet with a built-in mixer. Maybe it played a role that we don't ask for an email address and don't record IP addresses. Or that one can open an account in less that 2 seconds.

The customer is always king, so we added some new functionality for those users.
You can now send funds to some other account, instantly and with no fees - basically an off-chain transaction. A small text message can be attached for the receiver.
To make this more convenient, every account has a public name that can be changed at will. This public name has no relations to the actual login credentials.
Currently the wallet and the off-chain transactions work for Bitcoins and Litecoins. We are considering adding more currencies in the future.

More info about PLAYTIN can be found in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148689.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148689.0)

If you guys have any questions or need any other functionality, let us know ;)
Have fun

Paste the configurations of all the daemons and processes involved while accessing your site, censor any private information as you see fit. What host provider are you using and how is your server managed ? How do you handle attacks if you don't record IP addresses ?

That's nice ;). I understand primarily your service is not an anonymous wallet / mixer but after the recent closure of other online wallets can you offer some sort of proof for longevity?

As per our policy we wont reveal implementation related information.
Our service is hosted on our own servers ;)

Well, as you noticed the wallet is not our primary service. So in sharp contrast to some now gone services we have a working business model ;)

First, I'm not asking for your implementation.

Second, your IP is owned by myNet Internet Solutions so I take that you bought this company so their servers are your own servers ? ...

What is this http://website.informer.com/Jeremiah+Haselberg+PiratePoint+Ltd..html ?

Wow, there is a lot of room to grow to eventually reach the numbers of vidstream.in :D

Ignoring questions ? Check.

Don't even know who registered the very own domain you are using ? Check.

LOL
Well, the wallet is just a byproduct. Our primary service operates perfectly since ages without any glitch. We are here to stay ;)

The new inputs.io is born.
next you'll add an API so that we can make faucets using the online wallet? :D

Do we need to add our Playtex ID in sigs to receive payment?

An API is probably an interesting idea, but I really doubt it would work for a faucet because we work on mBTC as the base unit... ;)
Beside that, we are fundamentally different from them. Assuming it was legit, inputs was a way to collect email addresses and IPs, two things we don't care about. In the end our wallet is more similar to instawallet - instawallet with optional 2 factor authentication that is.

A PLAYTIN account id would probably work better ;)
BTW, funds have to be on PLAYTIN before they can be send to some other PLAYTIN account, because we will not reveal your deposit address. Doing that would be a privacy leak.
However, if there is demand we can add functionality to make clickable links.

You are missing the jokes buddy.

GOOD! That's the spirit!
keep it that way :)

Ayup.

Back to the drawing board, OP.

No need for this, our site already works perfectly ;)

And as long as we can help fighting this blacklist bullshit by supporting off-chain transactions we are doing the right thing.

"Off-chain transactions", oh dear... in the best case scenario you are using a database which has the concept of transactions, and you are using such transaction to transfer something from user X to user Y. Other than that, your off-chain transactions are non-existent.

Bingo, you just explained off-chain transactions. And since those are off-chain and private the actual transfer of ownership is hidden.
But of course, all those black list campaigners hate this. Therefor we were expecting some hate for doing this.

Anyway, in the meantime the different reactions to this service are really helping when playing this game: http://www.zdnet.com/news/def-cons-sport-spot-the-fed/102697

And you don't see any possible issue with that, yes ? It is interesting that you think are you providing something new.

Very huge issues, but only if you are the US government and want to track every single coin ;)

New? Not really, for years we had Instawallet. And lately we had Inputs, which unfortunately turned out to be at least totally amateurish (I mean VPS? and on Linode? really?) Now both gone. The only legit one left is blockchain.info. One central site. And while blockchain.info does do mixing, it has no offchain transactions. Hopefully some day those dark wallet thing will be ready.

However, since we had most of the functionality anyway, we decided to add the missing pieces and volá here it is  :D

Inputs.io was the last chance for people to offer off-chain as a justification for using a web wallet sort of arrangement. This shit's dead.

It seems the main purpose of Inputs was to gather as much emails and IP addresses as possible.

Offchain is probably dead once CoinJoin and maybe CoinSwap are added to the main client.
In the meantime you can use our wallet, or any other legit mixer.

Bitcoin is about choice. If you prefer to have your coins tracked by the NSA, well, we have no problem with it. Your coins, your choice.

Says who? And who are you? Still "can't say"?

Guess what happens to your assertions then.

Since you are already posting in here, is there some official statement from you/MPEx/Trilema/Mircea regarding this redlist/validation craziness?

You can check the #bitcoin-assets log here (http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-11-2013#380372), he said something.

Thanks

Is there only one deposit address per account?

Yes, 1 deposit address per account. Just create another account, you can do it instantly without registering.

I sent playtin a message and I hope they'll reply soon. I think that some DRK got stuck after the transaction. The transaction is written in the blockchain but they just won't show up in my account. I'm posting this here to make sure others are aware as well.

Also, does anyone know if there is any other way to contact them besides a PM in the forum?

Im not sure what to think about playt.in so anybody here who invested there or even founded the site?

I want to get in contact.

Thanks!