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Title: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: RawDog on April 17, 2018, 07:56:31 AM
More than 60% of the topics are locked today.  Wow!  That is crazy.  All the open topics are the dumbest bullshit ever.  What is going on?  Are they trying to make people leave intentionally? 


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: First77 on April 17, 2018, 08:04:54 AM
Moderators are moving all the good threads to "speculation". Is it time to move the moderators ??


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: RawDog on April 17, 2018, 08:10:13 AM
Moderators are moving all the good threads to "speculation". Is it time to move the moderators ??
It's been time.  They seem to do everything they can to fuck up the energy in this forum.  I can't imagine it is so hard to make a much better forum and get people to move there.  Anyone know of any good alternative forums?


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: btc-room101 on April 17, 2018, 08:28:08 AM
There used to be a dam, and a little boy tried to plug the dam with his fingers,

The mod's are all part and parcel of team 'pump&dump' and they well played the past year or so, but ever since btc lost 2/3 of its gross value from $300 bill to $100 billion, a few months ago post xmas, they have zero tolerance for the denigration of btc,

This place used to be anything goes, and lots of good comments, but now, unless your doing the typical "How can I make a milon dollards' with btc in 24 hours, they just ban you, and delete, or plug the post.

This forum is largely amazon, and its most owned by alibaba china, who owns bitmain, and thus now that bitcoin is in terminal decline, all they know is to kill the people talking about the truth.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: rommelzkie on April 17, 2018, 08:51:44 AM
More than 60% of the topics are locked today.  Wow!  That is crazy.  All the open topics are the dumbest bullshit ever.  What is going on?  Are they trying to make people leave intentionally? 

Hmm maybe you are creating FUD on your topics created ?. If that is the case , The moderators just want to protect the community of bitcointalk. Do you have screenshots of your post. so more of us can evaluate and make opinion


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: RawDog on April 17, 2018, 08:55:39 AM
Do you have screenshots of your post. so more of us can evaluate and make opinion
Not my post - everyone's post..
https://i.imgur.com/ZDCaNw0.jpg


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: Hui8 on April 17, 2018, 09:13:00 AM
More than 60% of the topics are locked today.  Wow!  That is crazy.  All the open topics are the dumbest bullshit ever.  What is going on?  Are they trying to make people leave intentionally? 

I am sure they are doing that on purpose? I mean most of the threads are repeated topics but in different term! Recently many topics were also created in numerous ways to ask why bitcoin is getting spiked and all the shit. Then tons of replies on the same topic everywhere. Off course they were supposed to be closed down before it gets more spammy mate!

In general we see many lock downs when the threads has gotten sufficient responses. Isn't it. So why to worry anyway.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: NeuroticFish on April 17, 2018, 09:21:44 AM
Cleaning up the garbage - in a way or another is needed. If the way it's done is faulty, I guess that you should:
1. Pinpoint the ones where you think they made a mistake. The ones I've checked had clearly low quality posts at the end.
2. Understand that admin/mods are human and can make mistakes.

Imho also threads like this one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1887619.1360;topicseen) should be locked. But that's my opinion and I guess that they are busy enough without that too.


@First77 imho you are one of the spammers and I think that your point is not valid.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: TMAN on April 17, 2018, 10:20:30 AM
More than 60% of the topics are locked today.  Wow!  That is crazy.  All the open topics are the dumbest bullshit ever.  What is going on?  Are they trying to make people leave intentionally? 

All the shitposters you mean? the people who post nonsense in megathreads! I do fucking hope so


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: Jet Cash on April 17, 2018, 10:29:48 AM
The beginner's board looks a lot better. I'll spend some time on there a bit later.

I've got a few more sMerits to give away to quality posters.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: TheQuin on April 17, 2018, 10:36:09 AM
The beginner's board looks a lot better. I'll spend some time on there a bit later.

There's been a big cleanup in the frog pond as well with a lot of spam megathreads having been locked. I don't think it will make much difference though as there'll soon get replaced with new ones. The positive thing is at least they disappear out of peoples unread replies lists.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: hilariousetc on April 17, 2018, 10:42:07 AM
Moderators are moving all the good threads to "speculation". Is it time to move the moderators ??

If it's a discussion about the price of bitcoin then it obviously belongs in Speculation. If you want more 'good' threads then go browse that sub.

Moderators are moving all the good threads to "speculation". Is it time to move the moderators ??
It's been time.  They seem to do everything they can to fuck up the energy in this forum.  I can't imagine it is so hard to make a much better forum and get people to move there.  Anyone know of any good alternative forums?

There are several. Here's one: https://forum.bitcoin.com/

You should go troll over there, but you probably wouldn't have much of an audience.

Do you have screenshots of your post. so more of us can evaluate and make opinion
Not my post - everyone's post..
https://i.imgur.com/ZDCaNw0.jpg

Those are all trash threads populated by shitposters saying the same thing over and over. I'm guessing rickbig is going on a cleaning spree.

The beginner's board looks a lot better. I'll spend some time on there a bit later.

There's been a big cleanup in the frog pond as well with a lot of spam megathreads having been locked. I don't think it will make much difference though as there'll soon get replaced with new ones. The positive thing is at least they disappear out of peoples unread replies lists.


Yep. Sadly it's a pointless and a losing battle unless things change from the top. If people can still get paid to post rubbish then they will continue to do so and ICOs will continue to do nothing about spam.



Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: Hero of Legendary on April 17, 2018, 11:07:50 AM
More than 60% of the topics are locked today.  Wow!  That is crazy.  All the open topics are the dumbest bullshit ever.  What is going on?  Are they trying to make people leave intentionally?  
It's ok, that thread is surely a candidate to judge as well.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: digaran on April 17, 2018, 11:21:09 AM
Would you rather having them trashcanned and everybody's post count decreases? if you report any garbage post when you see them, come and ask for topics to be unlocked. numbers of quality posts should be higher than garbage posts to make it a constructive topic.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: bill gator on April 17, 2018, 11:25:56 AM
All of the boards/threads you have posted pictures of seem to have only the nonsense threads locked. The threads that have been sufficiently answered and every single new response is redundant, repeated and pointless. Which of the threads you regularly visit and contribute to have been locked? I haven't seen any examples of threads that are meant to turn away the intended user-base for this forum.

If you are asking if mods are intentionally trying to make people leave, the answer is no; they are locking the threads that clutter our forum, in the hopes that people stop spamming in that way to either give incentive for people to change their posting habits or leave. I'm confused whether you were really sad to see "Buying drugs with Bitcoin." or "Bitcoin is Life" get locked, are one of those your favorite thread?


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: fokinlipat on April 17, 2018, 11:29:23 AM
Nice to see this being done after the merit system. Merit system made some people to consider the quality of posts they were making and they improved also. But some people continued to make shit posts to increase their post count. Now that old threads are being locked, those shit posters will get helpless. This will also help users to find out useful information and relevant topics. Otherwise, it used to get crowded among so many old threads and affected search also.

One question I would like to ask here is that is it possible to make a search here that excludes all locked threads ?


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: mdayonliner on April 17, 2018, 11:45:58 AM
Do you have screenshots of your post. so more of us can evaluate and make opinion
Not my post - everyone's post..
https://i.imgur.com/ZDCaNw0.jpg

I am having a feeling that the screenshot is from Bitcoin Discussion.

If you look on the topics are locked, it's obvious that these topics were discussed several times. Same statement rolling and rolling with different phrase.

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Worried about btc future
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Why is the use of bitcoin is increasing
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Bitcoin as money

Seriously! Do you really think a new discussion needed on these topics. The forum has loaded with really shit/non-sense posts and locking them or deleting them is a good thing IMO.

bill gator makes good sense (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3336809.msg34914797#msg34914797)

Hope you understand.




There are several. Here's one: https://forum.bitcoin.com/

You should go troll over there, but you probably wouldn't have much of an audience.


Good suggestion  ;D


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: seoincorporation on April 17, 2018, 02:35:15 PM
I was surprised as well, but it just seems as the mods have been occupied cleaning the forum.
There were too many repeated topics, each day we were used to having at least 5 o 6 new about merits in the Beginners board, another 5 or 6 in Meta...
So it just seems like a cleaning-necessary action.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: TrumpD on April 17, 2018, 02:57:30 PM
They seem to be locking threads which have a lot of replies already, it would seem. Chances are that the reason for this is because in a single topic thread, the same or similar reply has already been imputed. So repeating the same answer just makes the thread unnecessarily long.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: TheQuin on April 17, 2018, 03:01:54 PM
Those are all trash threads populated by shitposters saying the same thing over and over. I'm guessing rickbig is going on a cleaning spree.

They seem to be locking threads which have a lot of replies already, it would seem. Chances are that the reason for this is because in a single topic thread, the same or similar reply has already been imputed. So repeating the same answer just makes the thread unnecessarily long.

Really, you think it could be that?


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: allahabadi on April 17, 2018, 03:12:49 PM
-snip-
Really, you think it could be that?

Ofc not, the mods are simply jealous of the exuberant knowledge being displayed by members who are trying to rank up by grabbing merits and post counts.; so much so that I even saw a purported PM that @theymos has sent to all mods to close threads that are apparently created by satoshi alts as he feels belittled by their presence. This is a big conspiracy to force satoshi out of BTC and to forum.bitcoin.com and to adopt the real bitcoin BCH.  ::)

I'm surprised that such obvious things are being overlooked by the distinguished members of this forum.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: criz2fer on April 17, 2018, 03:17:30 PM
The beginner's board looks a lot better. I'll spend some time on there a bit later.

There's been a big cleanup in the frog pond as well with a lot of spam megathreads having been locked. I don't think it will make much difference though as there'll soon get replaced with new ones. The positive thing is at least they disappear out of peoples unread replies lists.

Been out for a while in the forum. Moving forward with positive outcome will really help the forum. It will be easy to report post that are redundant when these "new ones" will appear again.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 17, 2018, 05:20:01 PM
I realize RawDog is just being himself here, but this is a question that a lot of people here are asking themselves--and I think it was a great decision to lock these bloated monstrosities.  The only further replies that are going to come after page 2 of a thread like [Pick one from the list] are spam ones, stuff that's been said before, and posts from people who write for signature campaigns like they're answering questions on a college exam. 

Those threads are, without exception, mega spam threads and should not only be locked but deleted--but I'll take locked over leaving them open any day of the week.

Not if we could just get new threads with similar topics nuked on arrival, we'd be in a much better place.  But as I said, I'll take whatever improvement is offered, starting with what just happened.  I'm not a completely ungrateful bastard.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: BTCeminjas on April 17, 2018, 05:37:02 PM
They are still lucky in locking the thread rather than deleting the whole thread, I saw now in the service section there were so many stupid participants in a signature campaign asking why their post deleted. It's a simple answer they are legitimate shitposting.
I agreed on that much better to locked the thread compared to delete the main thread.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: justine11 on April 17, 2018, 11:54:56 PM
More than 60% of the topics are locked today.  Wow!  That is crazy.  All the open topics are the dumbest bullshit ever.  What is going on?  Are they trying to make people leave intentionally? 
Well no they locked up some topics to prevent the spammer from necro posting since i've seen some topics that were created years ago are popping up and became megaspam with the one liner spammers (newbies)  replies in some sections especially in bitcoin discussion and for me this is good to see that moderators are now moving to moderate this forum.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: figmentofmyass on April 18, 2018, 12:19:34 AM
Do you have screenshots of your post. so more of us can evaluate and make opinion
Not my post - everyone's post..
https://i.imgur.com/ZDCaNw0.jpg

the unlocked threads only have 1-5 pages. looks like they're locking huge spam megathreads. probably for the best. a lot of those megathreads just take up space---you get hundreds of shitposters just responding to the OP or even just the thread title (no real discussion).

take one of the screenshotted threads, Worried about btc future (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2278292.1280). check the last page. here's the first sentence of each reply:

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No need to worry much about the future of Bitcoin.
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There is no need to worry about any topic of Bitcoin because Bitcoin's future is a good future
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Worry will not make anything about bitcoin.
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You do not have to worry about the future of bitcoin because bitcoin will take care of itself in the future.
Quote
Don't worry about the future of bitcoins.
Quote
Why do you have to worry about the future of bitcoin?

it goes on like this. :o

i agree there's some subjectivity involved in thread locking and mods should err on the side of caution, but it's high time that something was done about this.

Those threads are, without exception, mega spam threads and should not only be locked but deleted--but I'll take locked over leaving them open any day of the week.

i don't think the early contributors should have their posts deleted just because of later spammers. plus, the topic may be perfectly legit, so they should be left for search results.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 18, 2018, 12:27:35 AM
i don't think the early contributors should have their posts deleted just because of later spammers. plus, the topic may be perfectly legit, so they should be left for search results.
On a normal forum, I'd say that's true and would be a fair decision.  On bitcointalk, though?  There are mostly low-quality threads being created in the first place and I would have no problem nuking those on sight.  How many threads do we need comparing bitcoin to gold?  Or asking what the advantages or disadvantages are to bitcoin?  None.  There aren't hard and fast rules as to what's a spam thread, but you know it when you see it. 

I suspect that most of the new threads being created in Economics, for instance, are started by people who have alt accounts and are creating topics with questions that they have pre-made answers for.  Stuff that they and other shitposters know how to write already--that's why many of the replies all sound alike. 

They learn how to write shit like "Bitcoin is increasing day by day and has bright future we can get profit by investment and we have to wait until price increases and take profit".  Then they reassemble the words into different configurations and tweak them like a medicinal chemist making an amphetamine analogue, and BOOM, they have another post with which to get paid.

So I wouldn't feel that the mods were being unfair in the least if they deleted every post in a spam thread.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: hilariousetc on April 18, 2018, 09:18:46 AM
They learn how to write shit like "Bitcoin is increasing day by day and has bright future we can get profit by investment and we have to wait until price increases and take profit". 

Thread trashed from yesterday:

    
how important bitcoin is in your life ?

bitcoin is very important in my life it help to earn money and make me establish . why bitcoin important for you ?

bitcoin is important in life because it makes future bright and gives more profit.

You have no idea how many of these threads get created every week and they're filled with the same shit responses over and over. It's truly mind-numbing.

Other such classic threads are "how did you hear about bitcoin?" and "what brought you to bitcointalk?" in every possible configuration and permutation.



Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: mdayonliner on April 18, 2018, 10:31:30 AM
Those are all trash threads populated by shitposters saying the same thing over and over. I'm guessing rickbig is going on a cleaning spree.

They seem to be locking threads which have a lot of replies already, it would seem. Chances are that the reason for this is because in a single topic thread, the same or similar reply has already been imputed. So repeating the same answer just makes the thread unnecessarily long.

Really, you think it could be that?


Tell you what... your sense of humour is too sharp  ;D
Oh my my  ::)



You have no idea how many of these threads get created every week and they're filled with the same shit responses over and over. It's truly mind-numbing.

Other such classic threads are "how did you hear about bitcoin?" and "what brought you to bitcointalk?" in every possible configuration and permutation.

i don't think the early contributors should have their posts deleted just because of later spammers. plus, the topic may be perfectly legit, so they should be left for search results.
On a normal forum, I'd say that's true and would be a fair decision.  On bitcointalk, though?  There are mostly low-quality threads being created in the first place and I would have no problem nuking those on sight.  How many threads do we need comparing bitcoin to gold?  Or asking what the advantages or disadvantages are to bitcoin?  None.  There aren't hard and fast rules as to what's a spam thread, but you know it when you see it. 


These people are too lazy to use the search feature. Another point of view is they want to increase their number of post counts. This post counts converts to activity and may be if lucky then some merits.

PS: Can anyone help me giving the url of finding recent removed post?
The search result is not giving me any related topic and I do not want to create a topic for this simple query


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: mk4 on April 18, 2018, 03:53:37 PM
Noticed this too. Usually I keep some tabs open on my browser for a few hours just so if ever someone quotes me on my reply, but a lot of the topics are getting deleted. It's good that they're getting a lot more strict towards topic quality though. Especially those "what is merit?" or "how to get merit?" topics. Yikes.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: great0ne on April 18, 2018, 05:46:25 PM
Im agree a lot of similar threads which only are used for spamming and get post count up. Good job by moderators this site not should become spambay.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: athanz88 on April 18, 2018, 05:59:58 PM
Moderators not doing their works, people are going crazy. When moderators doing their works, people are still going crazy. What is wrong with people nowadays?


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: mk4 on April 18, 2018, 06:22:16 PM
Moderators not doing their works, people are going crazy. When moderators doing their works, people are still going crazy. What is wrong with people nowadays?

It's probably because users here aren't used to mods being too strict; and they don't know exactly what the mod's intentions are since they're locking the topics, probably due to prevent gravedigging.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: stompix on April 18, 2018, 10:17:26 PM
More than 60% of the topics are locked today.  Wow!  That is crazy.  All the open topics are the dumbest bullshit ever.


Indeed crazy.
The number should look more like 99%, then it might make a difference.
Frodocooper did that in the mining section that was full of the same redundant threads and the section is now almost spam free.

Let's see the latest posts in Bitcoin discussion, the morning catch:

What can I buy with Bitcoin? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3346928.0)
Recently Bitcoin got  really famous and we can use bitcoin to pay hotel bills, restaurent bills, online shopping.
I am wondering what else we can buy with bitcoin?

What can kill Bitcoin? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3346699.0)
Probably we have 2000 of those
   
Is bitcoin will boom ? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3346220.0)
Is BTC boom again with new record ?

Much insight, great op, such ....

will bitcoin raise again ? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3344329.0)

Bitcoin is not a scam. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3336850.0)

I would vote for nuking mega threads, this is the only way to get rid of spam posts.
When it starts to hurt their posts count at the end of the week, then they might think twice.

And now a serious question to the mods.

If I stumble upon a new thread with the same content and title and everything as an old thread or mega thread in some cases, should I report it, will somebody start locking duplicate threads?


Moderators not doing their works, people are going crazy. When moderators doing their works, people are still going crazy. What is wrong with people nowadays?

You've said it yourself, they are crazy  ;D ;D





Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: Flying Hellfish on April 18, 2018, 10:57:27 PM
And now a serious question to the mods.

If I stumble upon a new thread with the same content and title and everything as an old thread or mega thread in some cases, should I report it, will somebody start locking duplicate threads?

I am very new to moderating here but in the P&S section I will definitely appreciate reports of redundant topics/threads and will deal with them as appropriate!


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: LeGaulois on April 18, 2018, 11:21:15 PM
the mega threads are the one nobody reads, not even the posters posting in... It's frustrating to see them and even more frustrating to see members open similar ones.
Such cleaning is needed for a very long time and it could be nice to have the same with all sub sections

Let's RawDog creates some new good funny topics :D


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: mangtomas on April 19, 2018, 03:58:05 AM
They seem to be locking threads which have a lot of replies already, it would seem. Chances are that the reason for this is because in a single topic thread, the same or similar reply has already been imputed. So repeating the same answer just makes the thread unnecessarily long.

your rigth sir. same for other section. they make a big cleanup for other threads that have they same question or related threads. but there have a big conclusion behind there doing.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on April 19, 2018, 04:28:46 AM
This cleanup replays one of Eminem's hit tracks - Cleaning my Closet

Such an exercise will often leave many bruised and wounded along its trails. But it will expectedly send across a warning signal to those who post in repetitive threads.

your rigth sir.
Error Check, just for the purpose of semantics.

I guess you don't know that "your rigth (sic)" isn't the same thing as "You are right"

Again, the Sir nomenclature doesn't work well here in the forums. You may want to avoid using it, except you are addressing a Knight of Shinning Humour  :o


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: digaran on April 19, 2018, 05:22:25 AM
It makes you wonder, since when moderators started to lock the topics instead of trashing them? I think an idiot troll was suggesting this in another thread.

I am very new to moderating here but in the P&S section I will definitely appreciate reports of redundant topics/threads and will deal with them as appropriate!

Sure. these people wouldn't do anything. posting with multiple accounts and earning money leaves them no spare time to help. I'm sure you'll be fine. I will give you a hand from time to time.

When it starts to hurt their posts count at the end of the week, then they might think twice.

They wont think twice. they would post more garbage to increase their post count and make up for their deleted posts. I got 3 posts trashed at the same time of post counting for my campaign last week. good thing I have a vigilant campaign manager.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: Wind_FURY on April 19, 2018, 05:55:42 AM
Do you have screenshots of your post. so more of us can evaluate and make opinion
Not my post - everyone's post..
https://i.imgur.com/ZDCaNw0.jpg

Which of those topics, do you believe, are supposed to be left open? Most of them are  low quality "questions" from "newbies", which are probably from paid spammers, to disrupt the forum from discussing more serious issues or maybe stopping us from talking about funny "events" like Roger Ver.


Title: Re: Why the fuck did Admin lock up so many topics? wtf?
Post by: Coffee_Lover on April 19, 2018, 06:11:52 AM
Are admins and moderators are the only one who can lock up a thread? If not, then maybe the ones who started the threads are the ones who locked it up.Also,maybe because the locked topics are the same with other topics only having different titles. Having the same thread over and over again is truly inapproriate.