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Title: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: shamzblueworld on April 24, 2018, 05:12:20 AM
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.

Don't you think its a less risky option?

What is your take on this?


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: SummerBliss on April 24, 2018, 05:20:29 AM
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.

Don't you think its a less risky option?

What is your take on this?
Yes I agree because I too have my own apprehension with ICOs. No matter how good the project looks, there are chances that it might be a scam project and I don't want to risk my money. But, I differ with you on one point. I usually prefer to invest in alts which are newly listed and have potential to grow. For example Hero Token is one such coin which has raised 40mn$ and would be listed soon on major exchanges.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: jacaf01 on April 24, 2018, 05:28:36 AM
To me it does not matter when you are buying inot the token, the most important thing is the quality of the project, before when looking at project on coinmarketcap.com I use to stay t top 100, but now the space has changed even some project below Top 500 have strong potentials than some in Top 200. Now so many good projects are undervalued and one just need to find them ahead of the market


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: jinxcreedy on April 24, 2018, 05:31:19 AM
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.

Don't you think its a less risky option?

What is your take on this?

I believe your fears are well founded however,  it's because you have a good pocket that is why you target those top 100. ICOs are risky yet they offer better returns to investors. Compare PARETO. If you invested $10,000 about four weeks ago, today you would be having over $350,000. How many top 100 could give you such returns?

Everyone do have their own unique strategies


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: Dewao on April 24, 2018, 05:33:30 AM
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.

Don't you think its a less risky option?

What is your take on this?

There's always a risks for investing in ICO's and investing in altcoins, but the less risky is in the  altcoins than ICO's. I preferred to invest in many altcoins that had a great potential and in ICO's I actually confused to put an investment because no matter how the project are looks good there's possibility that it might be a scam.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: Herbert2020 on April 24, 2018, 05:35:06 AM
it IS a less risky option but try not to limit yourself to only top X coins. all the altcoins that exist can have the potential of getting pumped and giving you profit and the lower they are on the ranking system the bigger their profit is going to be.
it is simply because most people think like you. they stick to topX coins but the market makers don't. so when a coin outside of their topX is getting pumped they jump in way too late and the market maker make a lot of money from the huge pump that their FOMO buy caused.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: aussiesloth on April 24, 2018, 05:36:59 AM
It is all about your risk-reward comfort levels.  Sure, there can are good ROIs on established Alts, and yes, many ICOs turn to dust.  But the benefits of getting in early (Pre-sale or main sale) are the cheap token price, possible bonuses, and the potential for huge growth if the project is successful.

Keep an eye on Helbiz (HBZ) this week when it finally lists on it's first exchange.  I think that will be a great example of a successful ICO launch.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: matico on April 24, 2018, 05:39:52 AM
Buying Altcoin alone does not make it less risky. You as investor would still have to do your due diligence to come up with good Altcoin that can increase the value of your fund and bring you profit. ICO is not different either.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: Rhaizan on April 24, 2018, 05:43:02 AM
To me it does not matter when you are buying inot the token, the most important thing is the quality of the project, before when looking at project on coinmarketcap.com I use to stay t top 100, but now the space has changed even some project below Top 500 have strong potentials than some in Top 200. Now so many good projects are undervalued and one just need to find them ahead of the market

No matter how good the project looks, there's possibility that it's a scam, and your money will may be lost and remember there's always a risks before put an investment you should need to be ready and accept the possible will be happen. Well for me the less  risks is investing in altcoins that had a good potential.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: gribble on April 24, 2018, 05:43:43 AM
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.

Don't you think its a less risky option?

What is your take on this?
You are right, it is less risk but in my experience it will be easy to increase the values of my asset, when i have made investment in ICOs my values of asset becomed couples times and i like it, actually investing into the ICOs doesn't huge risk if we know about the fundamental aspects of projects, unfortunately many investors even they don't read the whitepaper and do research about the project.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: Lifestudent38 on April 24, 2018, 05:52:32 AM
This
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.

Don't you think its a less risky option?

What is your take on this?


This is a fair approach!!! Its a risk - reward thing. There are ICO projects with sincere developers with real word solutions to real world problems and the potential returns far outweighs what one can expect to make with a top 100 Crypto since investors need to be rewarded for taking on the risks in the 1st place!

I think the best is to find a project/s you believe in much alike to conventional stock and then appropriate like 10 - 20% of funds with those. This way you can diversify and generate returns out of projects that may be the next top 100 whilst keeping your funds relatively safe.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: LesterD on April 24, 2018, 07:41:28 AM
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.

Don't you think its a less risky option?

What is your take on this?
investing in ICOs or on top 100 on coinmarketcap list, they are both risky, but If I were you, I would go for top 100, its risky but you can study the flow of its market.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: photo123 on April 24, 2018, 02:24:59 PM
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.

Don't you think its a less risky option?

What is your take on this?
Yes, I agree with you so I like to invest in coins whose ICO are semi new. In this way you can judge by their actions what they are up to. I invested in Paragon coin, the cannabis based coin. The project is good as cannabis industry will experience boom in coming years. They have progressed well and they are delivering what they have said in their roadmap. I suggest to invest in PRG. Do have a look at them. They launch their updates regularly. I have high hopes from them.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: pamsugas on April 24, 2018, 02:46:02 PM
not all ico after open market will drop its price
even there ico like genesis vesion open market price could rise 3 times from ico price


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: taiwww on April 24, 2018, 02:50:40 PM
Yes I completely think that Established coins are way better than the coins which are in the ICO phase. ICO phase is like something where there are two things that can happen. One it may be hit the exchanger with good price and mint workout best for rest of the roadmap. Or it could happen that it may just become the scam before hitting the exchanger.

So yeah, its as logical as we state here, established coins would be the first choice. But also only first 50-100 as you said because from there onwards coins may not have proper volume and thats why they are way below the line too.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: Psynthax on April 24, 2018, 02:50:52 PM
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.

Don't you think its a less risky option?

What is your take on this?
You should put a little part of your amount in the icos, Make sure you have done a lot of analyzation before investing in the ico. You can try to put the rest into the top 100 of coinmarketcap. I guess with this latest bullish trend and there is a possibility to the ico after it will be listed on the exchange site and there will be a pump.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: Snakerist on April 24, 2018, 02:54:35 PM
It's very hard tp say what is better but I sometimes take a risk and invest in the most promising ICOs.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: MarlonDamon on April 24, 2018, 02:55:10 PM
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.

Don't you think its a less risky option?

What is your take on this?
You can invest in ICOs after evaluating their progress. I mean newish ICOs are good to go if they satisfy their standings. I have high hopes from Lamden coin because after their ICO they have shown great progress on their roadmap. So now I invested in Lamden about 3 weeks ago. Its price has already multiplied by almost 3 times. I believe that it will go further up so I will HODL TAU more until ultimate gains. Check them they develop blockchain technology.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: googs84 on April 24, 2018, 03:05:01 PM
On the additional thought to add on!

Established Altcoins :

1) Already surpassed the risk zone of getting scammed
2) Gets attention of wider number of investors
3) Development happening can be witnessed on the go
4) Projet comes almost to the end of roadmap thus serving as proof of stake!
5) All the above and thus minimised risk!

Initial Coin Offering :

1) Insufficient data to understand what will be the project outcome.
2) Investment is more or less in the thin air
3) No guarantee of reaching the final stages unless we witness the exchanger listing
4) Only weak promises and contracts and nothing else
5) All the above and thus more risk!

I can go on adding but these are most common points that comes to the mind!

Conclusion :  Go with the established altcoins, cut down the list to top 50 and if coin is beyond 100's but with good volume/developments then still worth to invest.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: parkraol on April 24, 2018, 03:20:30 PM
I have invested in an ICO of less than $1 per token. I just want to test how to invest in an ICO. First, I read the whitepaper, their roadmap. The team are very transparent. The project is promising. We had good communication in telegram, they are always present when I had questions. After 1 month of ICO was over my investment is double. As my coin continue to rise in that project I bought ether also.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: AK47- on April 24, 2018, 05:53:19 PM
Established Altcoin any day. As long as there is no FUD, these coins keep increasing on a stable pace. ICO on the other hand end up losing most of their value after launch and are not as good an investment as an established Altcoin. On the contrary, almost everything is as good as gold in this green market and no matter where you invest, value is going to increase.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: xiaoyum on April 24, 2018, 05:54:46 PM
ICO means high risk -> high returns. But there is also other side of the coin = you may lose everything at once. Established coin means low risk, more liquidity, safer standing. I generally prefer established altcoins...


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: hiddenmist on April 24, 2018, 06:23:47 PM
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.

Don't you think its a less risky option?

What is your take on this?
We he the same opinion because many ICO now a day is a scam or after they are listed on trading, it suddenly dump and many investors are also in panic that is why the value of ICO is hard to sustain on its presale  price.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: German Klimenko on April 24, 2018, 08:26:27 PM
There is no right answer to this question. Everything depends on the project and on time. If the market is on the rise, ICO may be the only chance to buy tokens cheaply. If the market falls, then it is better to wait for the exchange and most likely the price will be more attractive.



Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: muncuss on April 24, 2018, 09:33:42 PM

I believe your fears are well founded however,  it's because you have a good pocket that is why you target those top 100. ICOs are risky yet they offer better returns to investors. Compare PARETO. If you invested $10,000 about four weeks ago, today you would be having over $350,000. How many top 100 could give you such returns?

Everyone do have their own unique strategies
That's depends on project, not all can give you huge return. established coin also worth for look. If you buy dether some weeks ago you'll get 10x return now


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: w33man on April 24, 2018, 09:36:36 PM
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.

Don't you think its a less risky option?

What is your take on this?

I think so too. If you invest in an ICO, there's a chance that it's a scam and they will run and hide after the successful ICO. It is better to wait for the project to be established and get listed in a decent site. That way, there's a chance that you can buy their token cheaper because most investors or bounty hunters dump their tokens.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: yura888 on April 24, 2018, 09:37:59 PM
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.

Don't you think its a less risky option?

What is your take on this?
Of course this is an option that has much less risk, but you need to understand that the potential of new coins is much larger and if the coin grows then the risk pays off. . Personally, I also now invest in the top coins but I previously invested in ICO it and there were very good results there.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: Kang TB on April 24, 2018, 09:48:29 PM
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.

Don't you think its a less risky option?

What is your take on this?

invest in the top 100 market cap is good idea my friend,
and it is will minimize the risk on your investments
but, not all ICO project bad too
sometimes you need to learn deeper on ICO project before investing


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: BQ on April 24, 2018, 09:53:52 PM
It's less risky but also it'd often be less rewarding!
getting in early in an ICO (that hopefully doesn't sell to 'private investors' for 10% of everyone else), could end great, however,
it could also end in disaster if they fail, while established altcoins generally has a bit more reliability.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: energodar2019 on April 24, 2018, 10:20:13 PM
I divided the entire capital into several parts, one buy altcoins on exchanges and the other about 20% invest in ICO! On WAX earned 1,000% with investment. It is hard to guess which project will give great growth, so I invest in a few different, some will give growth!


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: Clement Kaliyar on April 24, 2018, 11:33:30 PM
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.
It all depends upon the project and the team behind it, if they are having a spectacular project there is no doubt i will be investing in it, but finding good projects are rare now a days and the best thing is to invest in the top coins in the market, even with top coins you have to be careful because bitconnect was also having good valuation and in the top list until it is busted, so whenever you invest you do your homework.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: Pain Packer on April 25, 2018, 12:07:02 AM
ICOs are risky but some return huge profits to its investors. Although it is more logical to invest on coins that are already on the exchanges, there are still people who want to risk their money for a good return investment.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: jayco25 on April 25, 2018, 12:36:40 AM
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.

Don't you think its a less risky option?

What is your take on this?

 All of stable altcoins and ICO's are risky we dont know when it will rise or even totally drop. The project is one important of the success and what will be the rule of the project in the near future. price of altcoins and bitcoin is high risk but of course the potential to double or even 100times  is possible. Just remeber before entering investment do your own research.

#Taklimakan


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: Crypto Sway on April 25, 2018, 12:42:28 AM
Overall I would agree with you that it is a less risky approach. So the majority of my strategy would be investing in those coins/tokens (80%). However, when there is an ICO that you really believe in with the tech, team and major problem they solve then I would put personally put a little (20%) into a project like that. Here's one that I believe is solid in all those criteria areas I mentioned before, what do you think? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3085831.msg31823480#msg31823480


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: Kahoy01 on April 25, 2018, 08:43:01 AM
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.

Don't you think its a less risky option?

What is your take on this?
Yes I agree with this. A lot of rising ICOs are becoming mire and mire ambitious yet not enough to be able to compete or sometimes couldn't even stand a chance to a lot of established cryptocurrency in the market. If only they are able to make more promising products and better projects, I think thay will be able to see the surface of the cryptocurrency market just like how the 10% do.


Title: Re: ICO VS Established Altcoin
Post by: darkywis on April 25, 2018, 08:56:45 AM
I am quite hesitant when it comes to investing in ICOs, I usually go for alts that are in the top 100 of market cap at least.

Don't you think its a less risky option?

What is your take on this?

For me, Altcoin are better than ICO because they are already in the market and well known. While ICO are just starting to develop their project to the world and not sure if it will succeed or not.