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It seems to me that merit is not at present a useful instrument for regulating this forum. Merit became a subject for sale. No one gives merit, just like that. There are only a few cases when someone sent the merit of someone just like that.
I have repeatedly witnessed how people wrote good themes, great and having a good meaning, topics which conducted a good analysis of coins, but unfortunately no one has given for such topics merits. I have request one thing opinion, that such themes can be create only for order to you the credited for this subject previously purchased you merit.
I think this system can be improved. I have a number of suggestions on how to do this.
1. Give merit to people who create threads and topics are becoming popular. If the topic has 10 pages of comments - then to add 5 merits.
2. If a member has more than 100 activity on the forum is to enroll him 10 merits. More than 200 activity, give 100 merits.
I don't see any other options at the moment. Or buy merit. Personally, I am against such practices. It seems to me that the system of merit, unfortunately made this forum for many people commercial enterprise. We need new ideas to solve this problem, because I repeat that there are no other ways to increase their rank, in addition to buying merit at the moment.

I do not understand everything here but.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=recent - merits are being given.

the rest of your post looks like someone threw up on a keyboard.

Nobody ever said that all 'good' posts would, or should, receive merit points. Merit isn't a way to compensate users for posting; merit is a way to encourage exceptionally useful posts but, above all, to prevent abusers from ranking up.

Reward users and their farmed alt accounts for creating spam megathreads and for spewing low quality posts? No thanks.

These threads ( with very few exceptions ) become spam fests, and they should be locked, and any merit awarded in them should be stripped from the poster, and the awarder imho.

Why do users want to rank up? To join signature campaigns. Merit limits that. In turn, limiting the number of spammers.

I don't see a problem. If someone is going to buy merit then they're wasting their money if they're going to spam and get banned. If they don't spam, then good! Goal accomplished.

lately, the topic of Merit has been the most trending discussion.

Why should complain about the merit system

I agree with you that on the one hand it protects the forum from unnecessary spam, but on the other hand it really makes life difficult for the beginners.
I didn't see the merit given to anyone for free. Often this all bought. This is done as follows. Created a topic, for this topic you someone gives you a few merit points that you have bought. Preferably a bit of credit for one theme, not to catch a ban.

I have seen this claim elsewhere as well, and I don't understand it. Beginners can participate on the forum just fine without ever having to earn a single merit. What's difficult about that?

While I don't necessarily agree with your suggestions I agree the merit system seems flawed. I've been on this forum for quite some time with no merit. It also strikes me as hypocritical when members with lots of Merit post negative comments saying people just want to rank up for sig campaigns...while themselves being personally involved in a sig campaign.
Where did the original merit come from? Were the hero/snr/legendary members allocated merit at some point. Merit's are rarely given out and seem to be all in the hands of high ranking members.
And if merit is being sold then that points to a system not working as it should.

At the forum, no one cares about newcomer. If you want to get credit, develop and learn the cryptocurrency. Everything has its time.

I'm getting fed up with all this crap about merits being bought. I don't sell merit or trade it, and I'm sure I'm not the only member that has the same policy.

If you don't like the merit system, then you know what to do - FUCK OFF.

This is probably the first time I have sworn in this forum, and I hope that all you whingeing scammers will take the hint.

Quoted! yay... Jet Cash finally came over to the darkside

Nope, no for your suggestion. As "good" and "great" is based on person's subjectivity, you can not force someone to give you merits. Try to analyze all the good posts that is meritted by people, you can find it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=toptopicsat
And i suggest you look into other member posts like nullius, ddmrddmr, me (hehe), etc, and do the analyze of their posts.

I would rather buy and Big Mac instead of buying merits... :D btw why you want to BUY merits? To rank up right... and why you want to rank up?

This forum is open for all no restriction on newcomer or a Hero Member. There are no designated sections for high rank members where newbies can't access.

Only thing which attracts high ranks is bogus and fraudulent signature campaigns (trust me not all but most them are scams) they pay high number to higher profile ranks... that's what Bitcointalk want to minimize.

I don't think of of any other reason behind this merit system and I don't see any bad intention of theymos who is managing this community in best possible way.

What type of care you talking about? Tell me which area of the forum you can't access?

Eh? What? Another Merit topic? I've been out for almost 1 week due to busyness but what will I witness is people here are still making nonsense thread about Merits :) Why you guys can't just accept how the Merit System works. Can't you get over? Looks like it will take forever before these guys understands what and how Merit works.

Ooops. Looks like you made Sir Jet mad, get lost kid while you still have a chance, and remember, Never come back.

Yeah, I think all sections are accessible by newbies but there are some sections here in the forum which restricts newbies to post. Like Ivory Tower (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=251.0). If I'm not mistaken there are some sections where Stuffs are only allowed.

Except for Investigations and Ivory Tower, of which the latter was made because of the spam.

If there were no spam, the serious discussion board wouldn't have been made. And if people didn't care so much about ranking up (to participate in signature campaigns), the merit system wouldn't have been made. :)

I do get merits from merit sources "just like that".

Many not few.

What is meritable and what is not is subjective.

Need a new keyboard? Dont ask me for me.


So spam mega threads with useless pages full of bullshit are going to be merited and not small worthwhile discussions?

Free merits = faster ranking up for shitposters. ::) Considering its coming from the bottomfeeder shitposters mouth. ;D ;D

Open your eyes.

Such cases are tagged by DT.

The mission of merit is thus accomplished.

I think you're overreacting. Those things that I described - this reality. I'm not saying that all accounts from full member and above the sales, and they sell the merits, but let's face it and you will see that all is not as fabulous as you are telling. And since this topic is raised more than once, maybe it's because people are dissatisfied with something???????

Your pointing accusations without proper proof of it's existence. Beside's there is nothing we can do, you only made them realize that merit is successful against a hunter like you.

There are so many privilige in higher rank, but if you have greater rank you have also greater responsibilities. We're still lucky we dont have that pressure yet. ;D

What proof do you need? If I have 10 merits in an hour, is that proof? Everybody know that? You reproach me for being a part of the bounty of the company, and you're part of it! Can watch that I on this forum am already quite a large number of time, and I have no merit, so as I not even not have been arguing promote its account, if would I wanted to, then already would bought merits.

Of course spammers and other lowlifes are dissatisfied with no longer being able to earn money by polluting the forum with random crap. That’s the merit system working as intended.

If you have actual proof of merit sales, post it so that the sellers can be negged.

I forgot, you said that merit works well against hunters like me, but you don't seem to see what I wrote here. I mean, merit is easy to buy. So why do I need to create this post, if I am a hunter, who understands that merit can buy and it is not difficult to do?
You me not so realize. The fact is that with the introduction of merits, this forum has become a commercial enterprise for many accounts that can give merit for, and these accounts are all forum members from a full member to legendary. I'm not accusing everyone that they sell the merit, but if I need the merit, I have it will appear in the next hour. Make your conclusions.

The theme behind merit is to identify quality posts and award it for the good work. It encourage the receiver to spam less and be more constructive in their thoughts. At-least that's what I personally feel after receiving every merit.


What you are saying is create topics, invite people to comment (possibly spam) in it and receive merits. I can bring you a topic asking how many hours someone spend on trading, has several pages of answers and most of them are from sig spammers.

100 activity = 10 merits!
200 activity = 100 merits!!
Why do you even need merits here? ::)

My advise to you is... This is a forum and it has it's own set of rules, adopt and accept it. You will step up. It's not hard to earn. When you join a community, you observe, you learn, you give, they take, keep giving, earn respect first. Everything else will follow.

Cristal clear, you don't even understand how the merit system works and yet you want to change it already, obviously for your own benefit.
No, the most popular threads are commonly useless and full of spam. We don't need to give merits to them, but erasing them should be the right choice. Indeed, they have been erased from the last week, as you can see.
The activity doesn't mean quality. That's precisely why the merit system was implemented. Now you are asking for the forum to help you to rank-up with no effort at all.
I've dug into your posting activity and you are not a shitposter, so my recommendation is for you to erase this thread as soon as possible, for you are going directly to the "ignore" list of many in here.
 I understand how the merit system can feel unfair for many people, but take it as a challenge, as users like DdmrDdmr or Bitmover. They have been rewarded with many many merits due to their activity, highly useful.
And, besides, this is not a matter to be obsessed with, unless your only interest in the forum is to earn some money. So don't be obvious. The people really interested in learning never talk about merit, for they don't even concern.

That's precisely why we need a "report merit abuse" button, but the merit system is working just fine.

Lately? it has been a trending topic for almost 3 months now if I remember it correctly since it is implemented.


Seems like you know someone that is buying merit, so it would be better if you have some proofs of that so mods and DT members can take necessary action against them.

If you are confident in your posting skills then you should not worry about getting merit as a newbie, there are a lot of newbies that earned a lot of merit in this forum, you just don't see them because the number of members that don't get merited outweighs those who are being merited.

So accusation like that is the answer to your problem? If you can have 10 merit in just 1 hour then show it to me?7 But your not capable of it, even if you post 1 million if it's not worthy to them, you will not receive any merit.

Look at this guy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1554927 he have more merits than his activity,  did he buy that merit?.

So you really think that after I created this topic, and I'm talking about this problem, I'm gonna go buy some credit? And what would my account be painted trust or banned? If you don't believe me that buying achievements is pretty easy, then unfortunately you're in the pink glasses?

Thank you for not thinking I'm the Creator of shit posts. I am not going to delete this topic as I really think this issue is relevant and this system is not perfect. I may be wrong about the solution to this problem, but in any case, I think that the merit system should be revised or improved.

Damn it's very hard rank up now with this strange new system, i'am old user(2012) and my dream ia become Legendary after these many years, anyone have a suggest for do it?

Yes, and the worst are the ones where the member beats their chest, praising the merit system while simultaneously declaring that...however, I don't care if I ever receive merit.  But we both know they damn well do and created the thread for the purpose of getting some.

It's a good mechanism to keep the worst accounts at a low rank forever, though they could trade merits.  However I have yet to see a significant decrease in the number of posts that I have to skip over in order to find something worth reading.

Please don't take me wrong... but whenever i see some senior members like you with fixed default merits (500, 250,100) that means they did not progress at all, you need to be helping the community and participating in the valuable discussions to earn the merits.

For you target is same like any junior member you need 250 merits only to rank up, which should not be difficult for a member who's in this business since 2012. Whereas for junior members like us we have to earn merits and wait for the activity too.

And seniors members like you have more responsibility in making bitcointalk helpful and be an example and encouragement for us. Even if you don't become legendary should be very proud of yourself being part of this big community since that long.
You have 5 stars already, don't you know 4-stars https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gifhttps://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gifhttps://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gifhttps://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/images/star.gif makes you a four-star General if you were in army :D

 

Will newbies EVER learn to use the search function? There is nothing in this thread that has not been discussed at length 100 times before. Can we please trash it?

Would posting useful content be acceptable to you, or would you prefer to rank up without having to?

Yes. Dont come to this forum and pray that the merit system gets abolished. Then one day (in an eternity) your wish may get granted. Then you will be able to resume shitposting to rank up like the old days - where third world bottomfeeders used to use this forum to feed the people of their family. ;D


He clearly does not want to post anything and wants everything done by magic charms. Let him be in his own wonderland and play with his delusions and toys.