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Very inspring video I find:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kkpxi6MayY

I believe Bitcoin can play an important role in the "Spiritual Revolution" by giving back financial power to the individuals, who will cetainly do different things with that power than what governments have been doing so far.

Imagine what we can do as Bitcoiners, who usually have completely different set of ideals than the "elites", once we have significant wealth.

I support your optimism!!!

Russell Brand seems to be a naive statist-socialist though ("distribute the wealth!").

also he doesn't like or understand Bitcoin and likened it to tulips afai remember.

This is also the impression I got; he's the type of fella who wants to take action without knowing what that action would be.  Watch him start a revolution and go full circle to exactly where we were, just with different people on top :P

Now, if he was calling for a revolution of rationalism, then I'd be all ears.  This sort of message is just fluffy hippie nonsense, devoid of any helpful knowledge and keeps those who have been vulnerable to rule for so, i.e. the irrational violence-fearing sheep, still vulnerable to rule.

Have you studied the new "esoteric" sciences? Things like evidence for a Conscious Universe. A lot of rational and logical arguments are being offered that go beyond what mainstream science believes.
In the Conscious Universe model thoughts and invisible dimensions play a much more important and powerful role than in the traditional understanding of physics.

The elites certainly believe in these "spiritual" dimensions because they have been using (or misusing) them themselves for their own power.

Another socialist. Nah. No thanks.

That's what I been saying dood.  If we can work together as humanity, we can have heaven on earth.

TOIL, my minions!  Strive together for the common good!  For the collective!  Be sure to make the Party meeting at 7!  The individual is nothing, the group is everything!

LOL...But would society work better if everyone was selfish?

Ayn Rand, in Atlas Shrugged

For centuries, the battle of morality was fought between those who claimed that your life belongs to God and those who claimed that it belongs to your neighbors--between those who preached that the good is self-sacrifice for the sake of ghosts in heaven and those who preached that the good is self-sacrifice for the sake of incompetents on earth. And no one came to say that your life belongs to you and that the good is to live it.

Isn't that how society works now?

No, although that certainly is a popular myth used to recruit people to give their work and earnings away.

It's not a complicated idea, really.  It's just that if someone does something for them self, they may do their very best job of it, but if they do it for some vague common group, it tends to be a half ass job.

Exactly.  If someone does something for a vague common group, such as parasitic entities such as the government or businesses, they tend to do a half ass job.  If everyone worked for their self, did what they wanted, everyone would apply themselves fully.

This feels to me like someone who is frustrated at the politicians and how they constantly seem to lie and make things worse.

Russell seems to be in the "we just need to get the right people in" way of thinking which is of course a fallacy.   Maybe his spiritual revolution is him thinking "if everyone is good to each other then that means, by default, the politicians will be good to us".  I don't know if it is, but that kind of thinking is naive in the extreme.

I agree totally. The fact is that we do need some form of revolution and start not having to rely on 'pigs at the trough' democracy which inevitably gets hijacked by Psychopaths. Bitcoin and decentralised money is a great start.

Russell Brand did nothing new. This idea of calling forth a revolution has been around for quite sometime. Where he has made a point and made it clear was in his language. He called it as it is; a spade, a spade. Alex Jones, Gerald Celente, Michael Ruppert, etc. What helped Brand was who he was and the position he currently is in society. All the other guys have no where near the volume of attention as Brand has. I am glad it is someone from my generation that has called this atrocity out and sparked the fuse in average joes' head. There is NO doubt universe wanted this individual to come forth now with this interview with everything that is happening around our planet today. Just like Snowden, I think these two will go down as heroes (well Snowden at least)

still, the wealthier bought more bitcoins, so "distribute the wealth" isn't going to happen because it's still the same democracy which preferrs rich over poor
bitcoin doesn't have anything to do with this "revolution" :D

ah, no....

it's in the context of transactions that bitcoin has merit...

i'm reminded of the problem the 19th century coal miner had, not his wages, but that he had to buy at the company store, put his money in the company bank, and rent the company house. 

We him.

We him no more.

the wealthy will not win with BTC. even if they wanted to buy say a billion dollars worth of BTC, they couldn't. they only way they could do so is by us selling to them say 10 BTC for a billion dollars. but in doing so, they will drive up the price for everyone else in the process.

essentially BTC will be at first doing a redistribution of wealth. think that sounds crazy? well businesses are jumping on board the BTC one by one. and we are not too far away from another financial crash like in '08. BTC is going to replace our fucked up and slave currency that has benefited only the 1% like the rothschilds, buileburgs, the morgans, and other unnamed psychopaths. BTC is universes answer to begin fixing our world.

"First they ignore you, then they mock you, then they fight you, then you win." M. Gandhi

Bitcoin is not the answer, the answer is love.  Bitcoin is a step in the right direction though.

then again....

maybe bitcoin is the question not the answer...

Ahhh if you were here I'd give you a hug! Yes, you are absolutely correct! Bitcoin is part of the equation that will lead us back into times of peace, love and creativity that has been so long oppressed and manipulated! People don't understand how exciting these times are going to be! :)

What?  The Age of Aquarius?

lol danks.  Indeed they will be amazing, this is the best time to be alive.

russell brand is awesome.. check out a video of him posted on reddit http://evolutionpie.com/post/68176458276/russel-brand-as-evolutionary-philosopher

i agree with pretty much everything he says. i like the fact that he uses his celebrity to talk about the things he actually believes in.

Yeah, that's what I really like him, too.
Finally, somebody in the mainstream media is talking about the important stuff.

i'm going on a crash course for meditation in 5 weeks.. it's a pretty fucking scary thing to fathom that i'll be doing meditating hardcore for about 2 months, but i think i need it.

i suspect that there are a few, but not many, meditators on this site though.

i can honestly say that this whole bitcoin craze has brought about a bad side in me. it's not that's not that money is bad, but like most everyone else here, i want enough bitcoin for security.. for the rest of my life. the desire for money makes me uneasy, yet i'm still here  :o

I medidate, too.

The reason why I like Bitcoin is because it gives me financial freedom and the possiblity to realize my own projects.

Needless to say, I have a completely different set of priorities than the so-called "elites" currently running the show.

If many of the other Bitcoiners think like me, we will make to a better world.

my reason for using bitcoin is to have financial freedom to do what i want, but i just feel that need/urge to reach that point.. and i'm always checking tickers to make sure of it.

i keep having to remind myself not to feel too greedy, because it's not a good feeling.

'Right-on' comic Russell Brand who is worth £15million admits he has dodged train fares by jumping the barrier because he 'can't be bothered' to get a ticket

https://i.imgur.com/4VHscvi.jpg


Multimillionaire comedian Russell Brand has made a fresh bid to bolster his revolutionary image… by boasting that he dodged a train fare.

The comedian has admitted jumping the barrier on a journey from London to Chelmsford in Essex, saving him from a £14.90 hit to his estimated £15million fortune.

He claimed that he didn’t make the effort to pull out his credit card at the ticket office because he ‘couldn’t be bothered with the rigmarole of getting one’.

Brand has come under fire for his vocal espousal of revolutionary socialist politics while enjoying a luxury lifestyle including stays at the Savoy in London and the purchase of a sumptuous home in the Hollywood Hills.

He claims that his vast wealth has not changed him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2608288/Right-comic-Russell-Brand-worth-15million-admits-dodged-train-fares-jumping-barrier-bothered-ticket.html

I need to read that book.

But it does seem to me that she isn't, at least in that passage, taking account of the fact that human beings are, for the large part, social animals. Language is the medium of our thought and as Wittgenstein pointed out there is no private language - try for example acquiring language in isolation from your fellow beings and the social,cultural and linguistic exposure that that gives.
 Its no coincidence that probably the worst punishment that can be meted out to an individual is solitary confinement. A satoshi for the person that can give me the source of this quote "I am a fellow without collective significance - barely an individual at all"


As for Russell Brand, I think he's great - and a breath of fresh air. I am particularly impressed with his views on voting  i.e.. that in voting we are allowing ourselves to be complicit in the maintenance of a corrupt system. Much better not to vote - and so starve the system of its legitimacy.

  Isn't our usage of BTC a bit like that - we are starving the corrupt fiat/ reserve banking system ?

Russell Brand = controlled opposition. ::)

It's just like in the middle ages, the court jester was the only one who could tell the truth. But no-one took him serious.

Today's court jesters are the comedians.

Tinus spot on :) Plus he just talks hipster talk to get more cash? Its Obama like drivel :)

good video

for the first time in history bitcoin's virtual property allows you to "take it with you". you'll be the envy of all the other poor spirits.

i've been teaching myself to be able to discern bullshit from truth, but not to be too cynical when judging others. russell isn't perfect, but i don't doubt that he really believes what he says.

There are rumours that he is there to hijack the alternate news. He is a toff that is for sure so who knows? Too many smoke and mirrors we can never be sure can we?

A niche style spiritual revolution is impossible to communicate imo.  I havent heard any plans from russell brand which im able to understand - all we know if he is suggesting RBE/anarcho syndicalism.  Thats cool but we'd need to start actually developing the practical structures else it is all too vague and weak.  Bitcoin to the rescue, everything else falls into place.

Russel brand is legend for speaking out though, also for his work on war on drugs and drug addiction. He deserves some love, most other douche bag celebs are happy being shills.

I agree. He is making the right noises but is that enough?

Never thought of that before. That's actually pretty cool.
Store a few BTC in a brain wallet and then reincarnate as a multi-millionaire!

Bitcoin will not change shit. I thought it would long ago until I awakened to the realization that it is still a currency, it operates off greed.  The few will continue to own vast amounts more than others and it provides no incentive for people to do anything to help others - the essence of a spiritual revolution - it provides incentive for people to be even.greedier with the grand delusion that their coins will spawn some magnificent wealth that can change something.

As your wealth rises, the wealth of the elite bitcoiners rises and the same pyramid repeats.

If you want a spiritual revolution and not take the path off enslavement, WWIII and extinction, you'll open your mind to what I have to say and leave your prejudice behind.

The only way to peace is to be a family. To share, to nurture, to love. So long as we use money, we will not find peace, for money will always hold power to corrupt minds of individuals - until we become aware of it's nature and abstain completely.

wait, you are complaining about greed yet you're the guy known for.. scamming people? the pot is black, but so is the kettle.

I think he's another Michael Moore.  Another 1% trying to pass himself off as one of the 99% and making money in the process.

We don't need another despot - so I'm staying far away from Brand's "revolution".  The real revolution will be decentralized and based around internet activism and it's inevitable, imho.
 

beetcoin, youre just another shill.

I have failed one loan, with one person, with no intentions yet Im suddenly a scammer who goes around and scams people.

Go to hell.  Its time for you all to wake up from this little game of your insecurities and realize what's at stake.  Your existence is at stake and the fate of the world as well.

Its time to grow up and stop the name calling and actually listen to what I say.