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November 21, 2013, 10:41:29 AM
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Very inspring video I find:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kkpxi6MayY

I believe Bitcoin can play an important role in the "Spiritual Revolution" by giving back financial power to the individuals, who will cetainly do different things with that power than what governments have been doing so far.

Imagine what we can do as Bitcoiners, who usually have completely different set of ideals than the "elites", once we have significant wealth.

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November 21, 2013, 01:23:13 PM
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I support your optimism!!!

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November 21, 2013, 06:10:18 PM
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Russell Brand seems to be a naive statist-socialist though ("distribute the wealth!").

also he doesn't like or understand Bitcoin and likened it to tulips afai remember.

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November 21, 2013, 06:41:57 PM
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Russell Brand seems to be a naive statist-socialist though ("distribute the wealth!").

also he doesn't like or understand Bitcoin and likened it to tulips afai remember.

This is also the impression I got; he's the type of fella who wants to take action without knowing what that action would be.  Watch him start a revolution and go full circle to exactly where we were, just with different people on top Tongue

Now, if he was calling for a revolution of rationalism, then I'd be all ears.  This sort of message is just fluffy hippie nonsense, devoid of any helpful knowledge and keeps those who have been vulnerable to rule for so, i.e. the irrational violence-fearing sheep, still vulnerable to rule.

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November 21, 2013, 08:00:14 PM
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Russell Brand seems to be a naive statist-socialist though ("distribute the wealth!").

also he doesn't like or understand Bitcoin and likened it to tulips afai remember.

This is also the impression I got; he's the type of fella who wants to take action without knowing what that action would be.  Watch him start a revolution and go full circle to exactly where we were, just with different people on top Tongue

Now, if he was calling for a revolution of rationalism, then I'd be all ears.  This sort of message is just fluffy hippie nonsense, devoid of any helpful knowledge and keeps those who have been vulnerable to rule for so, i.e. the irrational violence-fearing sheep, still vulnerable to rule.

Have you studied the new "esoteric" sciences? Things like evidence for a Conscious Universe. A lot of rational and logical arguments are being offered that go beyond what mainstream science believes.
In the Conscious Universe model thoughts and invisible dimensions play a much more important and powerful role than in the traditional understanding of physics.

The elites certainly believe in these "spiritual" dimensions because they have been using (or misusing) them themselves for their own power.

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November 21, 2013, 08:01:46 PM
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Another socialist. Nah. No thanks.

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November 21, 2013, 08:51:16 PM
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Russell Brand seems to be a naive statist-socialist though ("distribute the wealth!").

also he doesn't like or understand Bitcoin and likened it to tulips afai remember.

This is also the impression I got; he's the type of fella who wants to take action without knowing what that action would be.  Watch him start a revolution and go full circle to exactly where we were, just with different people on top Tongue

Now, if he was calling for a revolution of rationalism, then I'd be all ears.  This sort of message is just fluffy hippie nonsense, devoid of any helpful knowledge and keeps those who have been vulnerable to rule for so, i.e. the irrational violence-fearing sheep, still vulnerable to rule.

Have you studied the new "esoteric" sciences? Things like evidence for a Conscious Universe. A lot of rational and logical arguments are being offered that go beyond what mainstream science believes.
In the Conscious Universe model thoughts and invisible dimensions play a much more important and powerful role than in the traditional understanding of physics.

The elites certainly believe in these "spiritual" dimensions because they have been using (or misusing) them themselves for their own power.
That's what I been saying dood.  If we can work together as humanity, we can have heaven on earth.

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November 24, 2013, 12:42:15 AM
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That's what I been saying dood.  If we can work together as humanity, we can have heaven on earth.
TOIL, my minions!  Strive together for the common good!  For the collective!  Be sure to make the Party meeting at 7!  The individual is nothing, the group is everything!

LOL...But would society work better if everyone was selfish?

Ayn Rand, in Atlas Shrugged

For centuries, the battle of morality was fought between those who claimed that your life belongs to God and those who claimed that it belongs to your neighbors--between those who preached that the good is self-sacrifice for the sake of ghosts in heaven and those who preached that the good is self-sacrifice for the sake of incompetents on earth. And no one came to say that your life belongs to you and that the good is to live it.

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November 24, 2013, 01:45:16 AM
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That's what I been saying dood.  If we can work together as humanity, we can have heaven on earth.
LOL...But would society work better if everyone was selfish?
Isn't that how society works now?

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November 24, 2013, 03:48:59 AM
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That's what I been saying dood.  If we can work together as humanity, we can have heaven on earth.
LOL...But would society work better if everyone was selfish?
Isn't that how society works now?
No, although that certainly is a popular myth used to recruit people to give their work and earnings away.

It's not a complicated idea, really.  It's just that if someone does something for them self, they may do their very best job of it, but if they do it for some vague common group, it tends to be a half ass job.
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November 24, 2013, 05:11:01 AM
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That's what I been saying dood.  If we can work together as humanity, we can have heaven on earth.
LOL...But would society work better if everyone was selfish?
Isn't that how society works now?
No, although that certainly is a popular myth used to recruit people to give their work and earnings away.

It's not a complicated idea, really.  It's just that if someone does something for them self, they may do their very best job of it, but if they do it for some vague common group, it tends to be a half ass job.
Exactly.  If someone does something for a vague common group, such as parasitic entities such as the government or businesses, they tend to do a half ass job.  If everyone worked for their self, did what they wanted, everyone would apply themselves fully.

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November 24, 2013, 05:14:56 AM
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This feels to me like someone who is frustrated at the politicians and how they constantly seem to lie and make things worse.

Russell seems to be in the "we just need to get the right people in" way of thinking which is of course a fallacy.   Maybe his spiritual revolution is him thinking "if everyone is good to each other then that means, by default, the politicians will be good to us".  I don't know if it is, but that kind of thinking is naive in the extreme.

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November 25, 2013, 07:13:56 AM
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I agree totally. The fact is that we do need some form of revolution and start not having to rely on 'pigs at the trough' democracy which inevitably gets hijacked by Psychopaths. Bitcoin and decentralised money is a great start.
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November 25, 2013, 07:39:02 AM
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Russell Brand did nothing new. This idea of calling forth a revolution has been around for quite sometime. Where he has made a point and made it clear was in his language. He called it as it is; a spade, a spade. Alex Jones, Gerald Celente, Michael Ruppert, etc. What helped Brand was who he was and the position he currently is in society. All the other guys have no where near the volume of attention as Brand has. I am glad it is someone from my generation that has called this atrocity out and sparked the fuse in average joes' head. There is NO doubt universe wanted this individual to come forth now with this interview with everything that is happening around our planet today. Just like Snowden, I think these two will go down as heroes (well Snowden at least)

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November 25, 2013, 06:27:05 PM
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Russell Brand seems to be a naive statist-socialist though ("distribute the wealth!").

also he doesn't like or understand Bitcoin and likened it to tulips afai remember.

still, the wealthier bought more bitcoins, so "distribute the wealth" isn't going to happen because it's still the same democracy which preferrs rich over poor
bitcoin doesn't have anything to do with this "revolution" Cheesy

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November 25, 2013, 11:54:07 PM
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Russell Brand seems to be a naive statist-socialist though ("distribute the wealth!").

also he doesn't like or understand Bitcoin and likened it to tulips afai remember.

still, the wealthier bought more bitcoins, so "distribute the wealth" isn't going to happen because it's still the same democracy which preferrs rich over poor
bitcoin doesn't have anything to do with this "revolution" Cheesy
ah, no....

it's in the context of transactions that bitcoin has merit...

i'm reminded of the problem the 19th century coal miner had, not his wages, but that he had to buy at the company store, put his money in the company bank, and rent the company house. 

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November 26, 2013, 12:09:46 AM
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the wealthy will not win with BTC. even if they wanted to buy say a billion dollars worth of BTC, they couldn't. they only way they could do so is by us selling to them say 10 BTC for a billion dollars. but in doing so, they will drive up the price for everyone else in the process.

essentially BTC will be at first doing a redistribution of wealth. think that sounds crazy? well businesses are jumping on board the BTC one by one. and we are not too far away from another financial crash like in '08. BTC is going to replace our fucked up and slave currency that has benefited only the 1% like the rothschilds, buileburgs, the morgans, and other unnamed psychopaths. BTC is universes answer to begin fixing our world.

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November 26, 2013, 01:36:32 AM
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the wealthy will not win with BTC. even if they wanted to buy say a billion dollars worth of BTC, they couldn't. they only way they could do so is by us selling to them say 10 BTC for a billion dollars. but in doing so, they will drive up the price for everyone else in the process.

essentially BTC will be at first doing a redistribution of wealth. think that sounds crazy? well businesses are jumping on board the BTC one by one. and we are not too far away from another financial crash like in '08. BTC is going to replace our fucked up and slave currency that has benefited only the 1% like the rothschilds, buileburgs, the morgans, and other unnamed psychopaths. BTC is universes answer to begin fixing our world.

"First they ignore you, then they mock you, then they fight you, then you win." M. Gandhi
Bitcoin is not the answer, the answer is love.  Bitcoin is a step in the right direction though.

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the wealthy will not win with BTC. even if they wanted to buy say a billion dollars worth of BTC, they couldn't. they only way they could do so is by us selling to them say 10 BTC for a billion dollars. but in doing so, they will drive up the price for everyone else in the process.

essentially BTC will be at first doing a redistribution of wealth. think that sounds crazy? well businesses are jumping on board the BTC one by one. and we are not too far away from another financial crash like in '08. BTC is going to replace our fucked up and slave currency that has benefited only the 1% like the rothschilds, buileburgs, the morgans, and other unnamed psychopaths. BTC is universes answer to begin fixing our world.

"First they ignore you, then they mock you, then they fight you, then you win." M. Gandhi
Bitcoin is not the answer, the answer is love.  Bitcoin is a step in the right direction though.
then again....

maybe bitcoin is the question not the answer...
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November 26, 2013, 02:57:44 AM
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the wealthy will not win with BTC. even if they wanted to buy say a billion dollars worth of BTC, they couldn't. they only way they could do so is by us selling to them say 10 BTC for a billion dollars. but in doing so, they will drive up the price for everyone else in the process.

essentially BTC will be at first doing a redistribution of wealth. think that sounds crazy? well businesses are jumping on board the BTC one by one. and we are not too far away from another financial crash like in '08. BTC is going to replace our fucked up and slave currency that has benefited only the 1% like the rothschilds, buileburgs, the morgans, and other unnamed psychopaths. BTC is universes answer to begin fixing our world.

"First they ignore you, then they mock you, then they fight you, then you win." M. Gandhi
Bitcoin is not the answer, the answer is love.  Bitcoin is a step in the right direction though.

Ahhh if you were here I'd give you a hug! Yes, you are absolutely correct! Bitcoin is part of the equation that will lead us back into times of peace, love and creativity that has been so long oppressed and manipulated! People don't understand how exciting these times are going to be! Smiley

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