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Title: All Things Considered:
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 04, 2011, 04:21:28 PM
Are you tired of hopping around this forum like a kangaroo on crack?

Imagine what some of the contributors have to go through hunting down threads that need addressing, let alone a new or casual reader trying to put the pieces together--all relating to an important topic--by gleaning hundreds of posts in a half dozen different threads.

Wouldn't it make better sense to have a one stop thread where, let's used Matthew with UABB as an example, can address the good, the bad and the ugly of his latest endeavor.

I envisioned such a thread titled:

All Things Considered: UABB

With this example, it would be created and manned by Matthew, saving him time and energy of not having to respond on several different threads. I offer this to Matt to pick up the mantle and lead by example.

If you don't like my example, then consider some of the following:

All Things Considered: (your new BTC related company here--shorten to ATC: if too long)
ATC: The Bitcoin Show on OnlyOneTV.com
All Things Considered: Mt. Gox
All Things Considered: TradeHill
All Things Considered: Bitcoin Wallets
All Things Considered: Flexcoin
All Things Considered: Dwolla
ATC: Why You Shouldn't Pee on Your Mining Rig

As you clearly see, this would work for any thread on every board. And when someone post a new thread, a member would kindly post the ATC link, then request to have the thread moved off the board (yes, I know that this is already being done, but I'm introducing a more methodical solution).

How could a one stop, All Things Considered:, thread not work?

But, if this is a bad idea, we still have this:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRsAi08Eg5oi2VrSrUdBzmZZSU2H5zJsIpBvebrYf_EDTYUAx1ykw


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: FlipPro on August 04, 2011, 04:24:58 PM
You are welcome to do this at TweetForum if they don't let you do that here. Good idea to keep everything nice and organized...


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 04, 2011, 04:31:42 PM
You are welcome to do this at TweetForum if they don't let you do that here. Good idea to keep everything nice and organized...

Thank you for introducing me to TweetForum and for expressing that it's a good idea. There should be no problem with being allowed to do it here. For an example, if I owned BTCaccordions, I would create a thread entitled All Things Considered: BTCaccordions--a one stop place for me to address all questions and concerns related to BTCaccordions--a one stop place for readers to read the latest pertaining to BTCaccordions.

Thank you kindly for your input, FlipPro.


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: amincd on August 04, 2011, 04:32:09 PM
I think it's a good idea.


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: julz on August 04, 2011, 04:34:25 PM
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Are you tired of hopping around this forum like a kangaroo on crack?

I don't know..
But something's stuck in my cloaca and it's sure to be something I've picked up in one of these threads.
I'll wait for the dingos to tear you up a bit before considering which side of the barbed wire to hop to.

That's a  meth 'meh' by the way.



Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 04, 2011, 04:35:57 PM
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Are you tired of hopping around this forum like a kangaroo on crack?

I don't know..
But something's stuck in my cloaca and it's sure to be something I've picked up in one of these threads.
I'll wait for the dingos to tear you up a bit before considering which side of the barbed wire to hop to.

That's a  meth 'meh' by the way.



LMAO!!! I love your humor. That was humor, correct? Thank you kindly, julz, for your input.


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: Xephan on August 04, 2011, 04:40:34 PM
Isn't that what a wiki is for? :D


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2011, 04:46:27 PM
You are welcome to do this at TweetForum if they don't let you do that here. Good idea to keep everything nice and organized...

Are you still harping on that tripe? It's a terrible forum, awful. Stop posting it. Make a thread about it, only post about it in there, have a link in your signature, and stop being just as annoying as MATTHEW M WRIGHT, please.


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 04, 2011, 04:50:56 PM
Isn't that what a wiki is for? :D


A wiki! What the hell was I thinking? I can easily glean all the threads related to Bitcon wallets, combine them, and put them in on a wiki. Then post a thread entitle Bitcoin Wallet Wiki showing the link to the wiki.

Was my original post not clear enough of what I proposed? I do thank you, Xephan, for your input.


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 04, 2011, 04:55:19 PM
You are welcome to do this at TweetForum if they don't let you do that here. Good idea to keep everything nice and organized...

Are you still harping on that tripe? It's a terrible forum, awful. Stop posting it. Make a thread about it, only post about it in there, have a link in your signature, and stop being just as annoying as MATTHEW M WRIGHT, please.

I'm staying out of this issue for I have no opinion one way or the other. But, as first glance, I thought you were directly the comment toward me till I saw what you quoted.


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: Xephan on August 04, 2011, 04:58:27 PM
Isn't that what a wiki is for? :D


A wiki! What the hell was I thinking? I can easily glean all the threads related to Bitcon wallets, combine them, and put them in on a wiki. Then post a thread entitle Bitcoin Wallet Wiki showing the link to the wiki.

Was my original post not clear enough of what I proposed? I do thank you, Xephan, for your input.

Sorry, somehow I got the wrong idea on the first read. :D

Technically, I wouldn't say it's a good idea, huge threads are computationally expensive, slows down the server, which already lags to death occasionally.

Secondly, having a page full of "All things considered:" makes it harder to spot a relevant thread.

Information in a thread also become outdated and becomes a pain for anybody new to try to figure out if they should start from the beginning (and possibly spend hours reading irrelevant stuff) or just post a noob queston (and possibly get flamed for not reading).

I've been in forums where they are obsessive about pruning threads and not starting new ones... was a PITA.


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 04, 2011, 05:13:51 PM
Isn't that what a wiki is for? :D


A wiki! What the hell was I thinking? I can easily glean all the threads related to Bitcon wallets, combine them, and put them in on a wiki. Then post a thread entitle Bitcoin Wallet Wiki showing the link to the wiki.

Was my original post not clear enough of what I proposed? I do thank you, Xephan, for your input.

Sorry, somehow I got the wrong idea on the first read. :D

Technically, I wouldn't say it's a good idea, huge threads are computationally expensive, slows down the server, which already lags to death occasionally.

Secondly, having a page full of "All things considered:" makes it harder to spot a relevant thread.

Information in a thread also become outdated and becomes a pain for anybody new to try to figure out if they should start from the beginning (and possibly spend hours reading irrelevant stuff) or just post a noob queston (and possibly get flamed for not reading).

I've been in forums where they are obsessive about pruning threads and not starting new ones... was a PITA.


There's validity in all your points, Xephan. But, I do see it as a little less clutter if some of the posters had a one stop thread. Like the example I used: If I own BTCaccordions, I would only respond, and post, to All Things Considered: BTCaccordions for the ease on my part and convenience for the readers having, and seeking, questions and concerns.


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 05, 2011, 01:36:55 AM
I'm for any system that can some how decrease the clutter. TradeHill did it with TradeHill - Who we are: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=19537.0 Perhaps others could follow their lead. It doesn't have to be All Things Considered:.


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: repentance on August 05, 2011, 01:54:12 AM
I assume that the mods can already merge multiple threads on the same topic into a single mega-thread.  The trick is to do it before the threads have too many posts so the merge retains coherence.  One problem with lots of mega-threads is that they tend to dominate the front page so other threads can end up pushed off very quickly.


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 05, 2011, 03:19:56 AM
Isn't that what a wiki is for? :D


A wiki! What the hell was I thinking? I can easily glean all the threads related to Bitcon wallets, combine them, and put them in on a wiki. Then post a thread entitle Bitcoin Wallet Wiki showing the link to the wiki.

Was my original post not clear enough of what I proposed? I do thank you, Xephan, for your input.

Sorry, somehow I got the wrong idea on the first read. :D

Technically, I wouldn't say it's a good idea, huge threads are computationally expensive, slows down the server, which already lags to death occasionally.

Secondly, having a page full of "All things considered:" makes it harder to spot a relevant thread.

Information in a thread also become outdated and becomes a pain for anybody new to try to figure out if they should start from the beginning (and possibly spend hours reading irrelevant stuff) or just post a noob queston (and possibly get flamed for not reading).

I've been in forums where they are obsessive about pruning threads and not starting new ones... was a PITA.


Now, I want to apologize to you. When you wrote:

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Isn't that what a wiki is for? :D

I thought you were in reference to Wikipedia. I'm pretty sure now that you meant Bitcoin's Wiki.


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: MrJoshua on August 05, 2011, 03:22:08 AM
We should probably just spin off new forum categories for the big ones like exchanges, community services, bitcoin banks/online wallets, security, etc.


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: epi 1:10,000 on August 05, 2011, 03:32:14 AM
Don't whiz on the Mining Rig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wW6rENTfaU&feature=player_detailpage#t=192s


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 05, 2011, 03:33:39 AM
We should probably just spin off new forum categories for the big ones like exchanges, community services, bitcoin banks/online wallets, security, etc.


This is a possibility if it would help reduce the clutter. I've even had problems with the search box on this forum with showing no results for a keyword sometimes. But when I resort to a Google search using "Site:https://bitcointalk.org Floccinaucinihilipilification" (without quotes or the keyword Floccinaucinihilipilification), a whole slew of results are generated.

http://brandoncasey.me/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Floccinaucinihilipilification.jpg


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 05, 2011, 03:39:12 AM
Don't whiz on the Mining Rig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wW6rENTfaU&feature=player_detailpage#t=192s

Happy Happy Joy Joy Thank you for the YouTube link, epi 1:10,000.


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 05, 2011, 03:42:58 AM
I believe that in here lies a solution.

I assume that the mods can already merge multiple threads on the same topic into a single mega-thread.  The trick is to do it before the threads have too many posts so the merge retains coherence.  One problem with lots of mega-threads is that they tend to dominate the front page so other threads can end up pushed off very quickly.


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: Xephan on August 05, 2011, 04:27:55 AM
I assume that the mods can already merge multiple threads on the same topic into a single mega-thread.  The trick is to do it before the threads have too many posts so the merge retains coherence.  One problem with lots of mega-threads is that they tend to dominate the front page so other threads can end up pushed off very quickly.

Same problem with just forcing people to stick to a single big thread. It increases the load on the server generally (1 thread with 10000 posts is worse than 100 threads with 100 posts) and newcomers would have to wade through a lot of potentially irrelevant pages or risk saying something that was already answered on page 946 when they only checked 948 to 978.

It's probably better to spin off certain groups of threads to a child board when there is a consistently high number of related threads.

One problem currently is that newbies are forced to basically post everything into the newbie section and once they start, the threads tend to stick there.


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: Xephan on August 05, 2011, 04:28:28 AM
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Isn't that what a wiki is for? :D

I thought you were in reference to Wikipedia. I'm pretty sure now that you meant Bitcoin's Wiki.

That's correct :D


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: TraderTimm on August 05, 2011, 06:11:02 PM
Threads that are over a month old should be auto-locked. Some necro-bumping seems to be happening lately.


Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: bitbot on August 05, 2011, 06:13:11 PM
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Title: Re: All Things Considered:
Post by: airdata on August 05, 2011, 06:27:29 PM
Assholes & scammers... it's why we can't have nice things.

If we didn't have 20 people at a time making buy buy buy sell sell sell threads, we wouldn't have to have such a heavily moderated forum.  But when half of your users are trolls and scammers... wtf do you expect the place to look like?