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Title: Best way to mine?
Post by: JimBob4842 on November 26, 2013, 07:37:05 PM
I'm a little late to the BTC scene but I was wondering what the best was to mine is. I've been mining using my GPU for that last two days in slush's pool but at ~75mhash/s it's pretty slow. The cost of electricity is not an issue for me so I was considering purchasing a "Block Erupter" as I can't currently buy something the BFL jalapeno. Any suggestions?


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: dspiel on November 26, 2013, 07:56:46 PM
What is your goal? Are you looking to make a profit? If so your current approach won't work unless you want to invest in expensive ASIC equipment. If you are doing this for a hobby and just want to support the bitcoin community than yes using your GPU and some ASIC usb miners would be perfectly fine. Don't expect to make your money back.


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: Doth on November 26, 2013, 07:59:40 PM
Take a look at some altcoins using scrypt, mining bitcoin atm with that gear is not profitable.


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: JimBob4842 on November 26, 2013, 08:17:59 PM
What is your goal? Are you looking to make a profit? If so your current approach won't work unless you want to invest in expensive ASIC equipment. If you are doing this for a hobby and just want to support the bitcoin community than yes using your GPU and some ASIC usb miners would be perfectly fine. Don't expect to make your money back.
I'm mainly doing this as a hobby.

Take a look at some altcoins using scrypt, mining bitcoin atm with that gear is not profitable.
Any suggestions? I've looked at worldcoin and digicoin so far.


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: fudruker on November 26, 2013, 09:22:58 PM
try minning with middlecoin its pretty nice


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: PenAndPaper on November 26, 2013, 09:26:06 PM
You should check coinchoose.com for the most profitable altcoins although i 'm not sure if the site is still supported.
I think owner tries to sell it or something

Even for altcoins though your hashrate is to low.


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: twistedtrick on November 26, 2013, 09:50:53 PM
I have been giving BBQCoin a shot recently, but having problems getting transactions confirmed today for some reason.


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: WayTooGosu on November 26, 2013, 10:06:24 PM
In my opinion, cloud mining is the way to go. This is because on most cloud mining sites, you can quickly sell your GHS after you do not want to mine anymore, and make most and possibly even more of your money back.


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: budgetfree on November 26, 2013, 10:18:22 PM
If you're doing it as a hobby, or as I found out an easy way to put money into BTC without providing verification documents to some third-party exchange, your best bet is simply a USB miner. The prices are going up right now. I got my last ones at $40, and they're going retail for $50. You can find some eBay auctions that can get you some better prices when buying in multiples. I'd suggest you do that. I'd also suggest you get a quality USB hub and fan. I have a ThermalTake USB fan. The current favorite for a hub is a Satechi 12 Port USB Hub.


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: PenAndPaper on November 26, 2013, 10:45:09 PM
I got my last ones at $40, and they're going retail for $50. You can find some eBay auctions that can get you some better prices when buying in multiples.

You either sell usb miners on ebay or you don't have the slightest idea about what you are talking. 50$ for 330mh/s? Are you for real?


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: raskolnikovx on November 26, 2013, 11:06:35 PM
Its a bit late for mining btc. Try LTC instead.


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: markjamrobin on November 26, 2013, 11:11:31 PM
Its a bit late for mining btc. Try LTC instead.

You can still mine BTC, you just won't break even, unless you can make your own chips at cost.


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: tearfereon on November 26, 2013, 11:43:12 PM
Its a bit late for mining btc. Try LTC instead.
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In fact it is late for LTC mining as well, unless you have very cheap electricity + you have GPU already...


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: Fiyasko on November 27, 2013, 12:20:52 AM
Best way to mine? Take a risk and buy some "new" hardware AKA 28nm ASIC. DO NOT TOUCH B.F.L.
Can't afford an ASIC? Then you can't afford to mine btc
Still want to use your computer's power to gain income? Try mining litecoins, They are perhaps the only coins besides bitcoin with a chance, Many people tie the two togeather asif they are Silver(ltc) and Gold(btc)

If you are going to buy new hardware, You will lose unless it's a 28nm ASIC, or you have free electricity


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: JimBob4842 on November 27, 2013, 12:43:05 AM
Best way to mine? Take a risk and buy some "new" hardware AKA 28nm ASIC. DO NOT TOUCH B.F.L.
Can't afford an ASIC? Then you can't afford to mine btc
Still want to use your computer's power to gain income? Try mining litecoins, They are perhaps the only coins besides bitcoin with a chance, Many people tie the two togeather asif they are Silver(ltc) and Gold(btc)

If you are going to buy new hardware, You will lose unless it's a 28nm ASIC, or you have free electricity


As I stated in my original post electricity is not an issue. It's not that I can't afford an ASIC, I'm just not yet willing to spend a lot of money on one because I'm mainly doing it as a hobby which is why I said I might get a block erupter.


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: Fiyasko on November 27, 2013, 12:46:30 AM
Best way to mine? Take a risk and buy some "new" hardware AKA 28nm ASIC. DO NOT TOUCH B.F.L.
Can't afford an ASIC? Then you can't afford to mine btc
Still want to use your computer's power to gain income? Try mining litecoins, They are perhaps the only coins besides bitcoin with a chance, Many people tie the two togeather asif they are Silver(ltc) and Gold(btc)

If you are going to buy new hardware, You will lose unless it's a 28nm ASIC, or you have free electricity


As I stated in my original post electricity is not an issue. It's not that I can't afford an ASIC, I'm just not yet willing to spend a lot of money on one because I'm mainly doing it as a hobby which is why I said I might get a block erupter.
Have you seen the BiFury or BlueFury/RedFury USB miners? Just plug it in, ~3watts and you get 2.4gh/s, BiFury gets 5gh/s cause it's two BitFury chips


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: ipx on November 27, 2013, 12:49:27 AM
I took my old PC and made an open box to put the components in and bought a couple of used graphic cards pretty cheap. Then I mine litecoin with it. I have 2x 5870 and 1x 5970 which nets me around 1470khash, currently giving me 0.955LTC or 17.38USD per 24hr. This is the best way to mine today i believe, if you disregard ASIC's but you shouldnt even think about those..


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: JimBob4842 on November 27, 2013, 02:00:07 AM
I took my old PC and made an open box to put the components in and bought a couple of used graphic cards pretty cheap. Then I mine litecoin with it. I have 2x 5870 and 1x 5970 which nets me around 1470khash, currently giving me 0.955LTC or 17.38USD per 24hr. This is the best way to mine today i believe, if you disregard ASIC's but you shouldnt even think about those..

What pool are you using?


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: Susie on November 27, 2013, 04:01:44 AM
blade miner 10GH/s





http://www.aliexpress.com/store/340830


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: bardi.harborow on November 27, 2013, 04:37:10 AM
You have two options, try and mine SHA-256 coins (Bitcoin, Terracoin, and so on), or give up because of all the ASIC miners and go for scrypt based coins (Litecoin, Feathercoin, and so on).

Bitcoin (and other SHA256 coins):

Mine yourself with GPU (slow, wastes more electricity, kills your computer)
Purchase Block Erupters (or other ASIC miner). (Might be profitable???)
Buy cloud mining power. Check out CEX.io. (See my signature for a referral link if you're feeling generous.)

Litecoin (and other scrypt coins)

Mine yourself with GPU (might be profitable)
Design a botnet to mine for you. (will be profitable, xD)

If you decide to mine scrypt, I suggest you check out MultiPool (http://www.multipool.in/).



Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: largeleon on November 27, 2013, 04:45:14 AM
I agree with the Above.  LTC has been more more profitable at a lower entry cost.  I have two graphics cards churing in two pc's when i'm not gaming.
i started in the summer and built up a nice chuck that i converted into BTC to do a couple of group buys.
i'm still mining LTC now, with a jalepeno and some erupters mining some BTC as well.

i had issues with finding a good usb hub for the erupters.  i purchased a 12 port, but i could only get 5 to run at a time.  my fault for not researching better.






Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: closesat315am on November 27, 2013, 05:10:47 AM
these were a good price for hobbyist mining if you can wait for them to come in. http://buyahash.com/?product=red-fury-bitcoin-miner-2-5-ghs

red fury for $100 on pre-order supposed to come in mid december.

anyone had a good or bad experience with them?

i bought a few several days ago and i don't remember seeing the "Available on backorder" note.


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: raskolnikovx on November 27, 2013, 10:32:42 AM
Its a bit late for mining btc. Try LTC instead.
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In fact it is late for LTC mining as well, unless you have very cheap electricity + you have GPU already...

You can start mining LTC with a 2 Sapphire Radeon R9 280x Oc 3gb rig and get your money back in 2 months (at this LTC rates)
A rig like this would give you around 1.1 ltc a day.


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: Burnsy13 on November 27, 2013, 10:54:59 AM
You know...


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: Burnsy13 on November 27, 2013, 11:26:26 AM
If all these answers to this thread were true, then why don't you all just shut down all your equipment and toss it in the trash?   :-\  Please explain why it's too late to start mining.   ::)  How long would it take if someone started today with a decent rig to make 1 BTC?  That would almost pay for all the initial outlay for the equipment.


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: PenAndPaper on November 27, 2013, 11:35:05 AM
In my opinion, cloud mining is the way to go. This is because on most cloud mining sites, you can quickly sell your GHS after you do not want to mine anymore, and make most and possibly even more of your money back.

You can apply the greater fool theory to physical miners as well. Can you share with us a cloud hashing that you can actually profit from?


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: mrdl2010 on November 27, 2013, 12:19:56 PM
If all these answers to this thread were true, then why don't you all just shut down all your equipment and toss it in the trash?   :-\  Please explain why it's too late to start mining.   ::)  How long would it take if someone started today with a decent rig to make 1 BTC?  That would almost pay for all the initial outlay for the equipment.

Such an attitude ...


Title: Re: Best way to mine?
Post by: PenAndPaper on November 27, 2013, 12:44:41 PM
If all these answers to this thread were true, then why don't you all just shut down all your equipment and toss it in the trash?   :-\  

I think you mean to ask why people keep buying overpriced equipment ::)
Well i guess because not everyone is familiar with the concept of difficulty, how it scales and how that affects returns from mining.