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Title: How about KYC on bitcointalk?
Post by: demonic098 on May 02, 2018, 08:37:48 AM
Do you think requiring KYC here in bitcointalk a good idea? It'll prevent scammers from entering our forum plus this will also prevent Alt accounts which commonly makes a lot of spams.  


Title: Re: How about KYC on bitcointalk?
Post by: mocacinno on May 02, 2018, 08:39:12 AM
Do you think requiring KYC here in bitcointalk a good idea? It'll prevent scammers from entering our forum plus this will also prevent Alt accounts which commonly makes a lot of spams.  

No, i don't like the idear... What if the database get hacked again? The hacker would have doxxable materials on 1000's of crypto enthousiasts... Some 3 letter agencies would dream about this opportunity, as would several gangs that would now be able to come to our houses and beat up our familys untill we fork over our private keys...

Bitcoin is about freedom, this includes the freedom to remain anonymous if you wish so (for example, the forum's founder is still completely anonymous).
Also, bitcointalk is a community forum, so the term 'Customer' doesn't apply here (imho).


Title: Re: How about KYC on bitcointalk?
Post by: eddie13 on May 02, 2018, 08:41:36 AM
Then Satoshi would never come back for sure :(


Title: Re: How about KYC on bitcointalk?
Post by: TMAN on May 02, 2018, 09:10:56 AM
Do you think requiring KYC here in bitcointalk a good idea? It'll prevent scammers from entering our forum plus this will also prevent Alt accounts which commonly makes a lot of spams.  

How about using the search feature before you make a redundant thread?


Title: Re: How about KYC on bitcointalk?
Post by: BigDig on May 02, 2018, 09:18:13 AM
Perhaps the idea itself is not bad. However, we must take into account the specifics of the community and remember that many here are true believers in crypto and anonymity for them is a very important part of the crypto community.


Title: Re: How about KYC on bitcointalk?
Post by: mdayonliner on May 02, 2018, 09:22:07 AM
Do you think requiring KYC here in bitcointalk a good idea? It'll prevent scammers from entering our forum plus this will also prevent Alt accounts which commonly makes a lot of spams.  

This has been talked numerous time my mate. The whole idea behind this forum is to give the right of being anonymous for the members. Even when we register they do not ask for email verification to keen you anonymous and you are asking for KYC  :D

People do not want to disclose their identity these days. We are living in decentralised age.


update:
Then Satoshi would never come back for sure :(

https://i.imgur.com/2wugCup.png
Click here if unable to see image (https://i.imgur.com/2wugCup.png)

hey Satoshi responded  :D


Title: Re: How about KYC on bitcointalk?
Post by: izanagi narukami on May 02, 2018, 09:23:48 AM
Anyway, public forum doesn't need any KYC except this forum has transaction feature that require some identity to verification


I'll get right on that, just as soon as hell freezes over.


Title: Re: How about KYC on bitcointalk?
Post by: coin5haker on May 02, 2018, 09:24:32 AM
I think doing KYC for bounty hunters is already too much, but I understand, that scammers pushed to this measure. I am against KYC here, we have merit system which quite successful against new accounts farming and DT team to take out old ones.


Title: Re: How about KYC on bitcointalk?
Post by: Abigail.Parsons on May 02, 2018, 10:39:45 AM
Do you think requiring KYC here in bitcointalk a good idea? It'll prevent scammers from entering our forum plus this will also prevent Alt accounts which commonly makes a lot of spams.  

No, i don't like the idear... What if the database get hacked again? The hacker would have doxxable materials on 1000's of crypto enthousiasts... Some 3 letter agencies would dream about this opportunity, as would several gangs that would now be able to come to our houses and beat up our familys untill we fork over our private keys...

Bitcoin is about freedom, this includes the freedom to remain anonymous if you wish so (for example, the forum's founder is still completely anonymous).
Also, bitcointalk is a community forum, so the term 'Customer' doesn't apply here (imho).

I wonder if we could figure a way of putting a forum on the blockchain and decentralising the data held. Considering you said this has been hacked before. I do think there would be a huge spike in quality of material on here. You do find quite allot on non comments you have to trawl through to get to the hidden gems.


Title: Re: How about KYC on bitcointalk?
Post by: Thirdspace on May 02, 2018, 11:23:19 AM
Do you think requiring KYC here in bitcointalk a good idea?
answer: NO
are you a customer of bitcointalk.org? am I? are we? ::)
what kind of financial transaction conducted between bitcointalk.org and us?
this is a forum where we discuss about all things related to bitcoin, KYC has no place here!


Title: Re: How about KYC on bitcointalk?
Post by: mocacinno on May 02, 2018, 11:56:03 AM
Do you think requiring KYC here in bitcointalk a good idea? It'll prevent scammers from entering our forum plus this will also prevent Alt accounts which commonly makes a lot of spams.  

No, i don't like the idear... What if the database get hacked again? The hacker would have doxxable materials on 1000's of crypto enthousiasts... Some 3 letter agencies would dream about this opportunity, as would several gangs that would now be able to come to our houses and beat up our familys untill we fork over our private keys...

Bitcoin is about freedom, this includes the freedom to remain anonymous if you wish so (for example, the forum's founder is still completely anonymous).
Also, bitcointalk is a community forum, so the term 'Customer' doesn't apply here (imho).

I wonder if we could figure a way of putting a forum on the blockchain and decentralising the data held. Considering you said this has been hacked before. I do think there would be a huge spike in quality of material on here. You do find quite allot on non comments you have to trawl through to get to the hidden gems.

Well, a blockchain is a decentralised, trustless, immutable database. Using a blockchain for a public forum is an idear that might have an application somewhere, however i don't think it's a good idear to move bitcointalk to a blockchain based data storage system.
Why? Several reasons:
1) If you want bitcointalk to be 100% decentralised, you'll also need the (salted) password hashes on a blockchain, meaning that anybody anywhere will have access to the hashing function AND the hashed password (brute-force???)
2) It'll be impossible for the mods to delete spam, at least, they can probably add a block with information that disables a certain post, but the data itself will always be in the blockchain
3) thousands of posts get made on bitcointalk on any given day... Imagine the amount of data that would have to be transmitted and verified by all those nodes

So, to sum it up, i don't think that a blockchain based approach is the correct approach for the bitcointalk database, it defenatly doesn't solve the KYC question made by the OP :)


Title: Re: How about KYC on bitcointalk?
Post by: vintages on May 02, 2018, 12:47:54 PM
Then Satoshi would never come back for sure :(
:D ;D This really got me laughing. It's very obvious that  the legend cherish his privacy so much, main reason no one knows him physically. 
Introducing KYC in bitcointalk is not a bad idea, but  I think its obstruction of people's privacy and many won't like this. Bitcointalk is all about bitcoin and the true concept which bitcoin is about is privacy maintenance. It would be disappointing if a forum like this is not exhibiting an example of what it's all about. Moreover,  apart from shit posting, we don't have any coin attached to the users account that needs protecting.


Title: Re: How about KYC on bitcointalk?
Post by: change7 on May 02, 2018, 12:48:52 PM
I think that will be a very welcomed and good idea to help keep the forum sane. If KYC is used, it will help ensure each person has just one account. I think if kyc is applied, them merits should be removed because KYC will ensure each person is solely entitled to one account.


Title: Re: How about KYC on bitcointalk?
Post by: mdayonliner on May 02, 2018, 02:42:00 PM
I think that will be a very welcomed and good idea to help keep the forum sane. If KYC is used, it will help ensure each person has just one account. I think if kyc is applied, them merits should be removed because KYC will ensure each person is solely entitled to one account.

Merit is here to determine quality posts it has nothing to do with how many accounts do you have  :)
You may not know that the forum does not stop you creating more than one account. So KYC issue is not valid here.


Title: Re: How about KYC on bitcointalk?
Post by: Theb on May 02, 2018, 04:04:17 PM
The simple answer to your question is no. We currently have the trust system to know who are we dealing with as well as give them a feedback in order to make other people know if he or she can be trusted or not and if they don't have any previous transaction  or its their first time to make one we have trusted members who can be an escrow to their negotiations, also why would you require KYC if it will only be beneficial to one section (Marketplace) in the forum? Because it will most likely stop potential members in joining in the forum because they want to keep their personal information private.

Also KYC won't prevent spams and shit post in the first place, what they will only stop is of course preventing existing members in creating another account, and yeah having multiple accounts are allowed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)(just take a look at forum rule #18) in the forum. The problem it created is this users with multiple accounts are spamming their way on campaign signatures and I think with DT members tagging spammers, alt accounts as well as account sales and with the merit system in place, this alt account holders will personally give up on their own.


Title: Re: How about KYC on bitcointalk?
Post by: coinoutraged on May 02, 2018, 05:41:55 PM
That's not a good idea. A competitor of Bitcointalk would rise above it. And what new person to Bitcoin is going to create an account when create a Bitcointalk account. Especially being iffy about something that's new to them.

I know someone who was going to buy some Bitcoin from coinbase, but didn't because it required such information as what they do for a living.