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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: vandeam on November 27, 2013, 01:53:03 PM



Title: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: vandeam on November 27, 2013, 01:53:03 PM
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guys we need to start waking up.. or china will dominate btc at this buying rate..

7500+ BTC bought with Yuan, 561 BTC bought in USD - all in 01:54 hours and rising.. http://fiatleak.com/
somthing isn't right


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: deisik on November 27, 2013, 02:01:25 PM
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guys we need to start waking up.. or china will dominate btc at this buying rate..

7500+ BTC bought with Yuan, 561 BTC bought in USD - all in 01:54 hours and rising.. http://fiatleak.com/
somthing isn't right

Some time ago in one of the threads here I made an assumption (as a jest) that they were going to buy all bitcoins out there, whatever the price might be... Now, looking at these figures, I ask myself, was it really a joke?


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: jipper3691 on November 27, 2013, 02:02:58 PM
yes they buy all night non stop.. gov must have bots doing the random buying.. need to catch up on usa silk road free coins...lol


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: niothor on November 27, 2013, 02:06:12 PM
http://s22.postimg.org/rx38cyc29/image.jpg


guys we need to start waking up.. or china will dominate btc at this buying rate..

7500+ BTC bought with Yuan, 561 BTC bought in USD - all in 01:54 hours and rising.. http://fiatleak.com/
somthing isn't right

You do realize they buy those coins form other chinese right? =))))))


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: deisik on November 27, 2013, 02:10:39 PM
guys we need to start waking up.. or china will dominate btc at this buying rate..

7500+ BTC bought with Yuan, 561 BTC bought in USD - all in 01:54 hours and rising.. http://fiatleak.com/
somthing isn't right

You do realize they buy those coins form other chinese right? =))))))

Are you sure this is not a net surplus by country?


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: Painful Truth on November 27, 2013, 02:16:18 PM
Relevant:


US has Already Ceded Dominance in Bitcoin Trading:

http://www.coindesk.com/us-already-ceded-dominance-bitcoin-trading/


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: Okurkabinladin on November 27, 2013, 02:16:28 PM
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guys we need to start waking up.. or china will dominate btc at this buying rate..

7500+ BTC bought with Yuan, 561 BTC bought in USD - all in 01:54 hours and rising.. http://fiatleak.com/
somthing isn't right

You do realize they buy those coins form other chinese right? =))))))

I wouldnt be so sure, BTC-E lagged behind China by huge margin until yersteday. Gox and Stamp before that...


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: antoineph on November 27, 2013, 02:21:57 PM
How many times do you guys need to hear this? The volume in China is a lot higher because of the 0 transaction fee.


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: niothor on November 27, 2013, 02:25:04 PM
Relevant:


US has Already Ceded Dominance in Bitcoin Trading:

http://www.coindesk.com/us-already-ceded-dominance-bitcoin-trading/


What it matters is who has those bitcoins , and the us and eu have the most by far.


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: Sulaco on November 28, 2013, 01:07:44 AM
Bitcoin ownership will become more diverse once it starts to gain popularity in India.


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: ArticMine on November 28, 2013, 01:37:38 AM
This rally seems to be driven only by MTGox with most of the other exchanges, and this includes those in China, trading around 10% below. http://btckan.com/price (http://btckan.com/price)

I strongly suspect speculation by margin accounts on Plus500 and AvaTrade, that is reflected on the MTGox price. We are talking about the short term high risk traders on margin here.


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: xavier on November 28, 2013, 01:40:28 AM
Let's not forget satoshi - by far the biggest BTC owner - is definitely not chinese  ;D


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: notme on November 28, 2013, 01:40:47 AM
guys we need to start waking up.. or china will dominate btc at this buying rate..

7500+ BTC bought with Yuan, 561 BTC bought in USD - all in 01:54 hours and rising.. http://fiatleak.com/
somthing isn't right

You do realize they buy those coins form other chinese right? =))))))

Are you sure this is not a net surplus by country?

I don't know if he is sure, but I am.  The site merely shows exchange volume for each currency, and only for some exchanges.  There is no data source for "net surplus by country".


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: hyphymikey on November 28, 2013, 01:45:09 AM
How many times do you guys need to hear this? The volume in China is a lot higher because of the 0 transaction fee.

This.


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: BittBurger on November 28, 2013, 01:45:27 AM
The Chinese are buying more.

Because the Chinese are smarter than we are :)



Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: TheFacilitator on November 28, 2013, 01:49:54 AM
Does the fiat leak website take into account when someone sells bitcoin for fiat? otherwise its pretty useless...


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: notme on November 28, 2013, 01:50:50 AM
Does the fiat leak website take into account when someone sells bitcoin for fiat? otherwise its pretty useless...

Every trade has a buyer and a seller.


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: TheFacilitator on November 28, 2013, 01:57:16 AM
Does the fiat leak website take into account when someone sells bitcoin for fiat? otherwise its pretty useless...

Every trade has a buyer and a seller.

This is true, but consider this...If someone is buying a bitcoin from a seller who is selling for a loss (fiat loss), the flow is reversed (fiat flowing out of bitcoin rather than into it), and I'm not sure that website takes that into account?


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: notme on November 28, 2013, 05:15:27 AM
Does the fiat leak website take into account when someone sells bitcoin for fiat? otherwise its pretty useless...

Every trade has a buyer and a seller.

This is true, but consider this...If someone is buying a bitcoin from a seller who is selling for a loss (fiat loss), the flow is reversed (fiat flowing out of bitcoin rather than into it), and I'm not sure that website takes that into account?

That sounds like nonsense.  Bitcoin is not a fiat reservoir.  Money flows into exchanges to buy, and then flows out to the seller.  Bitcoins transfer ownership, fiat transfers ownership.  Nothing was created or destroyed.

And no, that site doesn't consider individual traders' profits and losses.  This information is not public.


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: eindbaas on November 28, 2013, 05:28:42 AM
china shall rule the world. I love chinese food. fuck murica


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: deisik on November 28, 2013, 06:41:40 AM
china shall rule the world. I love chinese food. fuck murica

They are not that kind of people like Germans, English or Russians. They avoid open confrontation, whenever in history they got engaged in an open conflict they suffered badly since medieval times (Mongols conquest) till not so long ago (Japanese occupation). If ever, they would prefer some tacit "peaceful" subjugation through primarily economic ways...


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: jonat3 on November 28, 2013, 06:50:10 AM
The Chinese are well known as savers. IMO, BTC will have an ultimate valuation of atleast 1 million USD/BTC. And the Chinese are more likely to hoard the coins and reach that goal. The West is more likely to be oblivious of BTC's true end valuation and will most likely sell the coins before they even reach their true potential. What this means is that in the end they will end up with more millionaires than us. Where do you think they will invest that money? In their home country of course. This will cause a huge economic shift in power that has enormous geopolitical implications.


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: notme on November 28, 2013, 06:52:35 AM
The Chinese are well known as savers. IMO, BTC will have an ultimate valuation of atleast 1 million USD/BTC. And the Chinese are more likely to hoard the coins and reach that goal. The West is more likely to be oblivious of BTC's true end valuation and will most likely sell the coins before they even reach their true potential. What this means is that in the end they will end up with more millionaires than us. Where do you think they will invest that money? In their home country of course. This will cause a huge economic shift in power that has enormous geopolitical implications.

Yep.  They keep doing the right thing and it will pay off in the end.  The west continues to spend beyond its means and will have to pay the piper eventually.


Title: Re: We need to wake up fast before china will eat all the BTC..
Post by: emanymton on November 28, 2013, 07:22:58 AM
The Chinese are well known as savers. IMO, BTC will have an ultimate valuation of atleast 1 million USD/BTC. And the Chinese are more likely to hoard the coins and reach that goal. The West is more likely to be oblivious of BTC's true end valuation and will most likely sell the coins before they even reach their true potential. What this means is that in the end they will end up with more millionaires than us. Where do you think they will invest that money? In their home country of course. This will cause a huge economic shift in power that has enormous geopolitical implications.

Yep.  They keep doing the right thing and it will pay off in the end.  The west continues to spend beyond its means and will have to pay the piper eventually.
Rubbish! We can always print more money with absolutely no negative consequences whatsoever ;D