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Title: Suppressed technologies
Post by: dank on November 28, 2013, 02:51:39 PM
Since someone likes to delete my posts, I'll just make my own thread for them.

Technology being suppressed by the US gov:

Hemp based renewable biodiesel that would power our entire country with a negative carbon footprint
Infinite energy as conceptualized by Tesla
Alterations to cars that significantly increase gas mileage
Flying discs

Thoughts?


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: Ekaros on November 28, 2013, 03:13:41 PM
Since someone likes to delete my posts, I'll just make my own thread for them.

Technology being suppressed by the US gov:

Hemp based renewable biodiesel that would power our entire country with a negative carbon footprint
Infinite energy as conceptualized by Tesla
Alterations to cars that significantly increase gas mileage
Flying discs

Thoughts?

Hemp is possible rather too demonized plant, though fracking is the thing for the day...
Infinite energy? Umm, really?
Aren't we moving towards to high-fuel efficiency? Not that USA goverment hasn't supported low efficiency production in past...
Flying discs like what?


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: dank on November 28, 2013, 03:26:43 PM
6 (or maybe 16) percent of unused farmland could be utilized to power the entire countries energy needs.  Not the status quo.
Infinite energy, definitely possible as there is infinite energy at any location in the universe.  Not profitable.
Mileage could be so much higher, though it would cut their profits in half, so what's the point?
UFOs, our government has developed technologies with assistance of extra terrestrial life.

Clearly people don't like the truth being spread as why else would one delete it?


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: ajax3592 on November 28, 2013, 05:29:17 PM
Technology being suppressed by the US gov:
Infinite energy as conceptualized by Tesla
Thoughts?

I can confirm this one, Nikola Tesla was a century ahead of his time. He indeed develop a tower that could generate free electricity to everyone on Earth. Was destroyed by corporates because it would have collapsed a whole industry based on power circulation.

Here is "Just another day at work" for Tesla

http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/photos/pdfig4-2.jpg


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: Ravocado on November 28, 2013, 05:37:25 PM
Sure Tesla was a great inventor and a visioneer, but there is no thing like infinite energy as stated by OP. Flying discs - care to explain? I wouldn't lose time about hemp - i agree to that...forbidden all around world for no good reason.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: dank on November 28, 2013, 06:11:55 PM
I don't know specifics about the flying discs/ufos but I imagine they utilize earth's magnetic field or some other range of energy that is not fully utilized by humans.  I have firsthand knowledge that aliens work with the government so there's no reason to doubt they have obtained some information from them.

Even if infinite energy cannot be manifested by a physical machine, it surely can be harnessed by us which opens a much wider gate of possibilities.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: Coin.Karma on November 28, 2013, 06:23:45 PM
I don't know specifics about the flying discs/ufos but I imagine they utilize earth's magnetic field or some other range of energy that is not fully utilized by humans.  I have firsthand knowledge that aliens work with the government so there's no reason to doubt they have obtained some information from them.

Even if infinite energy cannot be manifested by a physical machine, it surely can be harnessed by us which opens a much wider gate of possibilities.

when did you start working for the govt.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: ajax3592 on November 28, 2013, 07:08:47 PM
I have firsthand knowledge that aliens work with the government so there's no reason to doubt they have obtained some information from them.

Apart from the theories on Google, do you really have some first hand experience? If yes, please share mate.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: dank on November 28, 2013, 07:23:57 PM
I don't know specifics about the flying discs/ufos but I imagine they utilize earth's magnetic field or some other range of energy that is not fully utilized by humans.  I have firsthand knowledge that aliens work with the government so there's no reason to doubt they have obtained some information from them.

Even if infinite energy cannot be manifested by a physical machine, it surely can be harnessed by us which opens a much wider gate of possibilities.

when did you start working for the govt.
Quite the opposite.  But I know aliens work with gov because I have seen a government impala drive by my old col-de-saq slowly, then went up the hill and waited.  When I left the house I was at, the car was blocking off the road in front of me, on the hill, then opened the driver window and drove past me slowly.  I saw someone I knew, that wouldn't be driving that car and didn't know where that house was, looking down as if preoccupied by a phone.

Ladies and gentleman, these aliens are beings of higher dimensions, they are capable of shape shifting.  Now what you need to understand is that we are all multidimensional beings, we're all technically aliens, though some are highly aware and as I have learned are capable of quite the feat.

We will all evolve into aliens, gods, it is inevitable as death is.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: Hawker on November 28, 2013, 08:44:54 PM
I don't know specifics about the flying discs/ufos but I imagine they utilize earth's magnetic field or some other range of energy that is not fully utilized by humans.  I have firsthand knowledge that aliens work with the government so there's no reason to doubt they have obtained some information from them.

Even if infinite energy cannot be manifested by a physical machine, it surely can be harnessed by us which opens a much wider gate of possibilities.

when did you start working for the govt.
Quite the opposite.  But I know aliens work with gov because I have seen a government impala drive by my old col-de-saq slowly, then went up the hill and waited.  When I left the house I was at, the car was blocking off the road in front of me, on the hill, then opened the driver window and drove past me slowly.  I saw someone I knew, that wouldn't be driving that car and didn't know where that house was, looking down as if preoccupied by a phone.

Ladies and gentleman, these aliens are beings of higher dimensions, they are capable of shape shifting.  Now what you need to understand is that we are all multidimensional beings, we're all technically aliens, though some are highly aware and as I have learned are capable of quite the feat.

We will all evolve into aliens, gods, it is inevitable as death is.

Please tell me you don't own a gun.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: dank on November 28, 2013, 10:54:38 PM
Wut?

And why would I want a gun when I know death means infinite peace, infinite possibilities?


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: Hawker on November 28, 2013, 11:05:45 PM
Wut?

And why would I want a gun when I know death means infinite peace, infinite possibilities?

Life is wonderful - death is a gamble.  You might want to consider getting some advice as to how you can live a long and happy life.



Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: dank on November 28, 2013, 11:37:18 PM
Life is hell.  Death is heaven.  Most of my life has been struggle, only last year did I have a glimpse of death (ego death/nirvana), heaven and the infinite love that surrounds you when you're free from ego.  Let me tell you, take the happiest moment of your life and multiply it by 1000x and then you might be able to contrast that to heaven.  It is a whole nother level of peace that I cannot effectively portray through words.

You can fly in heaven, you don't have to die in heaven, you can be anywhere with anyone at your will in heaven, you can do anything in heaven perfectly.  You can create anything with your mind without taking from a planet, you are infinitely powerful in heaven.

You can own 22 million bitcoins in heaven.  You can live in any house, fall in love with any girl, be anyone, you're truly free.

Now why would you want to be restrained to finite life again?  Life's great.  But heaven is greater.  Heaven is perfect because you are in complete control.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: NUFCrichard on November 29, 2013, 07:26:58 AM
I think energy policy is largely controlled by big oil, that would explain your Hemp, Car and Tesla ideas. 
Infinite energy doesn't exist, but we could generate more electricity than we could ever use.

Shame the flying disc part is included, it makes it all sound a bit foil hat like.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: dancupid on November 29, 2013, 06:33:25 PM
Life is hell.  Death is heaven.  Most of my life has been struggle, only last year did I have a glimpse of death (ego death/nirvana), heaven and the infinite love that surrounds you when you're free from ego.  Let me tell you, take the happiest moment of your life and multiply it by 1000x and then you might be able to contrast that to heaven.  It is a whole nother level of peace that I cannot effectively portray through words.

You can fly in heaven, you don't have to die in heaven, you can be anywhere with anyone at your will in heaven, you can do anything in heaven perfectly.  You can create anything with your mind without taking from a planet, you are infinitely powerful in heaven.

You can own 22 million bitcoins in heaven.  You can live in any house, fall in love with any girl, be anyone, you're truly free.

Now why would you want to be restrained to finite life again?  Life's great.  But heaven is greater.  Heaven is perfect because you are in complete control.

Sounds like minecraft in creative mode.
Hardcore is the only game worth playing.

When nothing matters and you can do anything you want, life is tedious.
Heaven is finding a puddle of water in a desert after 4 days of searching.



Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: mackler on November 29, 2013, 07:27:45 PM
So if I own all the bitcoins, wouldn't they have no value?


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: dank on November 29, 2013, 10:26:12 PM
Life is hell.  Death is heaven.  Most of my life has been struggle, only last year did I have a glimpse of death (ego death/nirvana), heaven and the infinite love that surrounds you when you're free from ego.  Let me tell you, take the happiest moment of your life and multiply it by 1000x and then you might be able to contrast that to heaven.  It is a whole nother level of peace that I cannot effectively portray through words.

You can fly in heaven, you don't have to die in heaven, you can be anywhere with anyone at your will in heaven, you can do anything in heaven perfectly.  You can create anything with your mind without taking from a planet, you are infinitely powerful in heaven.

You can own 22 million bitcoins in heaven.  You can live in any house, fall in love with any girl, be anyone, you're truly free.

Now why would you want to be restrained to finite life again?  Life's great.  But heaven is greater.  Heaven is perfect because you are in complete control.

Sounds like minecraft in creative mode.
Hardcore is the only game worth playing.

When nothing matters and you can do anything you want, life is tedious.
Heaven is finding a puddle of water in a desert after 4 days of searching.
Minecraft is a good analogy, I was going to make a post about that.  Minecraft with 1337 h4x.

Life isn't tedious in heaven unless you make it.  You can feel negative human emotions but you can also feel supreme overwhelming amounts of love and peace at will, which is very nice.

So if I own all the bitcoins, wouldn't they have no value?
It's whatever you believe.  Realistically, bitcoins will lose all value once people give up money to further unite the world.  Once world peace is reached, money isn't a factor because you can do anything and everything without it.

Then, once you're in heaven, you can live mini-lives where you can experience things with a human perspective of uncertainty with ego, but you are not subject to an entire lifetime of negativity.  Then, if heaven isn't your thing, you can choose any life in the universe.  You can be your own DPR, Satoshi, elite bankster, Jesus, Jimi Hendrix, dank, anybody.  And anything, you can become a bird, a jellyfish, a butterfly and see colors that humans are incapable of comprehending, or you can be your own unique creation.

You can revisit moments through your life and live them differently, you can have multiple mini-lives and switch between them where you left off, like a video game.

You can have that cube from Jimi Neutron that can fit anything inside of it, or you can do so with your new lIvePhone that can teleport anyone to your presence.

You can live a zombie apocalypse or live as one of the characters in a movie or video game.

Heaven is much more than a puddle of water, rather a vast, endless sea of possibility.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: cdtc on November 29, 2013, 10:44:44 PM
I am 100% sure that they
are suppressing all technologies that they cant make profit from.
Take IT for example there are only gradually improvements there isnt any big innovation like in 100 years ago.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: mackler on November 30, 2013, 02:52:23 AM
I am 100% sure that they
are suppressing all technologies that they cant make profit from.
Take IT for example there are only gradually improvements there isnt any big innovation like in 100 years ago.

I hear this thing called the internet required a lot of work. There's tons of innovation in IT, the problem is most companies don't find it super cost effective to buy thus lots of companies don't do it. Also legacy systems are really hard to get rid of.

Furthermore, who is they?


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: cdtc on November 30, 2013, 03:07:23 AM
I am 100% sure that they
are suppressing all technologies that they cant make profit from.
Take IT for example there are only gradually improvements there isnt any big innovation like in 100 years ago.

I hear this thing called the internet required a lot of work. There's tons of innovation in IT, the problem is most companies don't find it super cost effective to buy thus lots of companies don't do it. Also legacy systems are really hard to get rid of.

Furthermore, who is they?
By they I mean all big companies and american gov. and people behind them.
There are tons of really small innovations but nothing big.I mean for example you intel and amd
improving their processors as little as they must so they can sell us their ''new'' technology.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: Hawker on November 30, 2013, 08:53:20 AM
I am 100% sure that they
are suppressing all technologies that they cant make profit from.
Take IT for example there are only gradually improvements there isnt any big innovation like in 100 years ago.

I hear this thing called the internet required a lot of work. There's tons of innovation in IT, the problem is most companies don't find it super cost effective to buy thus lots of companies don't do it. Also legacy systems are really hard to get rid of.

Furthermore, who is they?
By they I mean all big companies and american gov. and people behind them.
There are tons of really small innovations but nothing big.I mean for example you intel and amd
improving their processors as little as they must so they can sell us their ''new'' technology.


Seriously?  You think Moore's Law is not enough?  


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: cdtc on November 30, 2013, 01:27:16 PM
I am 100% sure that they
are suppressing all technologies that they cant make profit from.
Take IT for example there are only gradually improvements there isnt any big innovation like in 100 years ago.

I hear this thing called the internet required a lot of work. There's tons of innovation in IT, the problem is most companies don't find it super cost effective to buy thus lots of companies don't do it. Also legacy systems are really hard to get rid of.

Furthermore, who is they?
By they I mean all big companies and american gov. and people behind them.
There are tons of really small innovations but nothing big.I mean for example you intel and amd
improving their processors as little as they must so they can sell us their ''new'' technology.


Seriously?  You think Moore's Law is not enough?  
Its not, when you know that they are doing it like that on purpose to make profit and they are suppressing any big leaps in technology.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: Hawker on November 30, 2013, 01:53:33 PM
I am 100% sure that they
are suppressing all technologies that they cant make profit from.
Take IT for example there are only gradually improvements there isnt any big innovation like in 100 years ago.

I hear this thing called the internet required a lot of work. There's tons of innovation in IT, the problem is most companies don't find it super cost effective to buy thus lots of companies don't do it. Also legacy systems are really hard to get rid of.

Furthermore, who is they?
By they I mean all big companies and american gov. and people behind them.
There are tons of really small innovations but nothing big.I mean for example you intel and amd
improving their processors as little as they must so they can sell us their ''new'' technology.


Seriously?  You think Moore's Law is not enough?  
Its not, when you know that they are doing it like that on purpose to make profit and they are suppressing any big leaps in technology.

The sad thing is you might actually believe it.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: cdtc on November 30, 2013, 02:04:56 PM
I am 100% sure that they
are suppressing all technologies that they cant make profit from.
Take IT for example there are only gradually improvements there isnt any big innovation like in 100 years ago.

I hear this thing called the internet required a lot of work. There's tons of innovation in IT, the problem is most companies don't find it super cost effective to buy thus lots of companies don't do it. Also legacy systems are really hard to get rid of.

Furthermore, who is they?
By they I mean all big companies and american gov. and people behind them.
There are tons of really small innovations but nothing big.I mean for example you intel and amd
improving their processors as little as they must so they can sell us their ''new'' technology.


Seriously?  You think Moore's Law is not enough?  
Its not, when you know that they are doing it like that on purpose to make profit and they are suppressing any big leaps in technology.

The sad thing is you might actually believe it.
The really sad thing is that you are blind and not able to see in what kind of world we live in today.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: Hawker on November 30, 2013, 02:12:02 PM
I am 100% sure that they
are suppressing all technologies that they cant make profit from.
Take IT for example there are only gradually improvements there isnt any big innovation like in 100 years ago.

I hear this thing called the internet required a lot of work. There's tons of innovation in IT, the problem is most companies don't find it super cost effective to buy thus lots of companies don't do it. Also legacy systems are really hard to get rid of.

Furthermore, who is they?
By they I mean all big companies and american gov. and people behind them.
There are tons of really small innovations but nothing big.I mean for example you intel and amd
improving their processors as little as they must so they can sell us their ''new'' technology.


Seriously?  You think Moore's Law is not enough?  
Its not, when you know that they are doing it like that on purpose to make profit and they are suppressing any big leaps in technology.

The sad thing is you might actually believe it.
The really sad thing is that you are blind and not able to see in what kind of world we live in today.

You are a free agent.  If you know that there are better designs out there, commission one and take it to a foundry for proof of concept.  I can introduce you to some in the UK if you are based here.  If your design works, you will have no problem raising funding from VCs as they are screaming desperate for interesting ideas.  Again, I can introduce you.

Do you believe what you say?  If you do, do you want to be richer than your wildest dreams?  Do it or shut up with the moaning about Moore's Law not being fast enough.



Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: cdtc on November 30, 2013, 02:50:17 PM
I am 100% sure that they
are suppressing all technologies that they cant make profit from.
Take IT for example there are only gradually improvements there isnt any big innovation like in 100 years ago.

I hear this thing called the internet required a lot of work. There's tons of innovation in IT, the problem is most companies don't find it super cost effective to buy thus lots of companies don't do it. Also legacy systems are really hard to get rid of.

Furthermore, who is they?
By they I mean all big companies and american gov. and people behind them.
There are tons of really small innovations but nothing big.I mean for example you intel and amd
improving their processors as little as they must so they can sell us their ''new'' technology.


Seriously?  You think Moore's Law is not enough?  
Its not, when you know that they are doing it like that on purpose to make profit and they are suppressing any big leaps in technology.

The sad thing is you might actually believe it.
The really sad thing is that you are blind and not able to see in what kind of world we live in today.

You are a free agent.  If you know that there are better designs out there, commission one and take it to a foundry for proof of concept.  I can introduce you to some in the UK if you are based here.  If your design works, you will have no problem raising funding from VCs as they are screaming desperate for interesting ideas.  Again, I can introduce you.

Do you believe what you say?  If you do, do you want to be richer than your wildest dreams?  Do it or shut up with the moaning about Moore's Law not being fast enough.


I am not replying to you anymore, you should first be able to see how things work today then we could talk.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: Hawker on November 30, 2013, 03:39:25 PM
...snip...

You are a free agent.  If you know that there are better designs out there, commission one and take it to a foundry for proof of concept.  I can introduce you to some in the UK if you are based here.  If your design works, you will have no problem raising funding from VCs as they are screaming desperate for interesting ideas.  Again, I can introduce you.

Do you believe what you say?  If you do, do you want to be richer than your wildest dreams?  Do it or shut up with the moaning about Moore's Law not being fast enough.


I am not replying to you anymore, you should first be able to see how things work today then we could talk.

You've shown you don't believe what you post so now you will stop posting.  Very wise. 


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: dank on November 30, 2013, 07:09:18 PM
I am 100% sure that they
are suppressing all technologies that they cant make profit from.
Take IT for example there are only gradually improvements there isnt any big innovation like in 100 years ago.

I hear this thing called the internet required a lot of work. There's tons of innovation in IT, the problem is most companies don't find it super cost effective to buy thus lots of companies don't do it. Also legacy systems are really hard to get rid of.

Furthermore, who is they?
By they I mean all big companies and american gov. and people behind them.
There are tons of really small innovations but nothing big.I mean for example you intel and amd
improving their processors as little as they must so they can sell us their ''new'' technology.


Seriously?  You think Moore's Law is not enough?  
Its not, when you know that they are doing it like that on purpose to make profit and they are suppressing any big leaps in technology.

The sad thing is you might actually believe it.
The really sad thing is that you are blind and not able to see in what kind of world we live in today.

You are a free agent.  If you know that there are better designs out there, commission one and take it to a foundry for proof of concept.  I can introduce you to some in the UK if you are based here.  If your design works, you will have no problem raising funding from VCs as they are screaming desperate for interesting ideas.  Again, I can introduce you.

Do you believe what you say?  If you do, do you want to be richer than your wildest dreams?  Do it or shut up with the moaning about Moore's Law not being fast enough.
Don't work like that bro.  How rich did Tesla get when he invented many innovations that we base our society off of today?

They'll take your idea and use it for their gain, and if they can't profit off of it, they'll suppress it.

But I think you know this more than you're portraying.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: Hawker on November 30, 2013, 07:58:44 PM
I am 100% sure that they
are suppressing all technologies that they cant make profit from.
Take IT for example there are only gradually improvements there isnt any big innovation like in 100 years ago.

I hear this thing called the internet required a lot of work. There's tons of innovation in IT, the problem is most companies don't find it super cost effective to buy thus lots of companies don't do it. Also legacy systems are really hard to get rid of.

Furthermore, who is they?
By they I mean all big companies and american gov. and people behind them.
There are tons of really small innovations but nothing big.I mean for example you intel and amd
improving their processors as little as they must so they can sell us their ''new'' technology.


Seriously?  You think Moore's Law is not enough?  
Its not, when you know that they are doing it like that on purpose to make profit and they are suppressing any big leaps in technology.

The sad thing is you might actually believe it.
The really sad thing is that you are blind and not able to see in what kind of world we live in today.

You are a free agent.  If you know that there are better designs out there, commission one and take it to a foundry for proof of concept.  I can introduce you to some in the UK if you are based here.  If your design works, you will have no problem raising funding from VCs as they are screaming desperate for interesting ideas.  Again, I can introduce you.

Do you believe what you say?  If you do, do you want to be richer than your wildest dreams?  Do it or shut up with the moaning about Moore's Law not being fast enough.
Don't work like that bro.  How rich did Tesla get when he invented many innovations that we base our society off of today?

They'll take your idea and use it for their gain, and if they can't profit off of it, they'll suppress it.

But I think you know this more than you're portraying.

Who is "they" ? The chip foundry?  The VCs? 

I have done VC rounds and raised $13 million in 2000 after the dot com bubble popped.  (As an aside, we then proceeded to lose the entire $13 million but that's the risk a VC takes).  VCs don't do execution - the only do finance.  cdtc doesn't actually have any idea - that's his problem and that is why his moaning about chip makers is hypocritical.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: dank on November 30, 2013, 08:46:16 PM
Aside from the internet, computer chips pose very little threat to the status quo.  The post was more so directed towards the bankers/oil cartel that have enslaved humanity to become dependent of their services, and anybody who would prefer to hinder man kind's evolution for personal material and economic gain.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: Haidang1796 on December 02, 2013, 05:25:33 PM
I think there must be something, or they are being jerks to suppress technology


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: niothor on December 03, 2013, 10:53:20 PM
Since someone likes to delete my posts, I'll just make my own thread for them.

Technology being suppressed by the US gov:

Hemp based renewable biodiesel that would power our entire country with a negative carbon footprint
Infinite energy as conceptualized by Tesla
Alterations to cars that significantly increase gas mileage
Flying discs

Thoughts?

You really need to go out more. There are lots flying around.

http://2guystalkingmetsbaseball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/dog-with-frisbee.jpg


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: hieroglyph on December 04, 2013, 01:28:27 AM
Advanced tech exists for sure.  There is no doubt in my mind and based on experiences I've had I can safely say the government is at very least aware of technology way ahead of what the average joe can comprehend.  What else would they be trying to hide? 

Sorry but I pads, video games and movies isn't all there is in 2013 folks.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: Wipeout2097 on December 07, 2013, 06:16:51 AM
UFOs, our government has developed technologies with assistance of WW2-era German engineers.
Fixed  :)

Edit: See also if this doesn't raise a few eyebrows:
http://www.examiner.com/article/reagan-records-space-command-antigravity-fleet
Also this intriguing book in a peculiar style from a Texas engineer: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/pentagonaliens/pentagonaliens.htm


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: supernovax on April 22, 2014, 11:59:55 AM
NiMH has technically been superseded by Li-ion batteries, but Li-ion is much more expensive than NiMH, which makes unavailability of NiMH throw a spanner in the works for amateur and small-scale EV builders.


Title: Re: Suppressed technologies
Post by: mamichula on April 23, 2014, 06:46:31 AM
The only one that I would agree with is the Hemp one. The rest, no.