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Title: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: lettucebee on August 07, 2011, 05:33:35 AM
Anyone notice that bitcoin2cash.com doesn't seem to be working correctly?  The orders page (https://www.bitcoin2cash.com/orders.php) has had both a bid and ask of 4 bitcoin for $13 for at least a day.  (Unless every five minutes a buyer and seller are agreeing to trade 4 bitcoins for $13!)

I've emailed sales@bitcoin2cash.com and received no reply.  I hope we're not going down a mybitcoin path again.  If you know anything please post it here.


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: JeffK on August 07, 2011, 06:07:05 AM
Anyone notice that bitcoin2cash.com doesn't seem to be working correctly?  The orders page (https://www.bitcoin2cash.com/orders.php) has had both a bid and ask of 4 bitcoin for $13 for at least a day.  (Unless every five minutes a buyer and seller are agreeing to trade 4 bitcoins for $13!)

I've emailed sales@bitcoin2cash.com and received no reply.  I hope we're not going down a mybitcoin path again.  If you know anything please post it here.

If you've read that guy's postings here and still trusted him, it's your fault.


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: BillX on August 07, 2011, 06:08:18 AM
Anyone notice that bitcoin2cash.com doesn't seem to be working correctly?  The orders page (https://www.bitcoin2cash.com/orders.php) has had both a bid and ask of 4 bitcoin for $13 for at least a day.  (Unless every five minutes a buyer and seller are agreeing to trade 4 bitcoins for $13!)

I've emailed sales@bitcoin2cash.com and received no reply.  I hope we're not going down a mybitcoin path again.  If you know anything please post it here.

If you've read that guy's postings here and still trusted him, it's your fault.

Wow! Another shady bitcoin dealer... Gee, imagine that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: Garrett Burgwardt on August 07, 2011, 07:32:51 AM
Last year MadHatter was pretty trustworthy, but then he got distracted and I suppose didn't want to deal with it anymore, so has become increasingly unresponsive. I wouldn't recommend dealing with him.


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: Stephen Gornick on August 07, 2011, 07:54:42 AM
Last year MadHatter was pretty trustworthy, but then he got distracted and I suppose didn't want to deal with it anymore, so has become increasingly unresponsive. I wouldn't recommend dealing with him.

I think you are confusing this exchange with another.

Just so there is no confusion, Bitcoin2Cash LLC is a U.S. organization.
 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin2Cash

The operator only has had positive ratings in the Bitcoin OTC WoT, though no new ratings in the past couple of months.
 - http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=bitcoin2cash

It would seem entirely possible that the order matching component of the site is not functioning, thus any orders that would clear are not getting processed.

The forum user account does show activity in the past 24 hours, have you tried PM'g the operator?
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=369

There also is a forum thread specifically for the exchange:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5307.0;all


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: Keefe on August 07, 2011, 12:01:47 PM
I am unable to withdraw BTC from bitcoin2cash.com.

But the order matching problem was probably just a rounding bug. I had no problem selling 4 BTC at $12.99 (to ensure overlap with the bid at $13.00).


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: lettucebee on August 07, 2011, 02:23:43 PM
I'm having trouble withdrawing coins too.


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: bitstarter on August 07, 2011, 04:53:28 PM
the madhatter is part of the mybitcoin fiasco  ?

http://bitcoin.crimeunit.net/wiki/index.php/MyBitcoin    at the bottom says Tom Williams   Alias TheMadhatter    ?


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: Insti on August 07, 2011, 05:31:11 PM
the madhatter is part of the mybitcoin fiasco  ?

http://bitcoin.crimeunit.net/wiki/index.php/MyBitcoin    at the bottom says Tom Williams   Alias TheMadhatter    ?

off topic of this thread:
My reading of that page says that The Mad Hatter is an alias that is interesting.
Which is NOT that Tom Williams = TheMadHatter.


Edit / Disclaimer:
I'm not affiliated with bitcoin2cash in any way other than that I've been paid to change my sig to advertise bitcoin2cash.
If I discover something shady is going on I will change it.
Until then I'm prepared to give the guy a day or two to respond to this thread.


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: jimbo77 on August 07, 2011, 05:37:52 PM
MadHatter is bitcoin4cash.com not bitcoin2cash.com


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: BookLover on August 07, 2011, 06:47:39 PM
I'm lost, I thought Bitcoin2Cash had gone offline because PayPal shut down the sites account.  What am I missing here? ???


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: lettucebee on August 07, 2011, 09:48:03 PM
I'm lost, I thought Bitcoin2Cash had gone offline because PayPal shut down the sites account.  What am I missing here? ???

Well it's obviously not "offline". Just go there (https://bitcoin2cash.com/). But tell me more about the paypal thing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: BookLover on August 07, 2011, 10:21:15 PM
This is probably not up to date but I thought bitcoin4cash and bitcoin2cash were both run by the same person and the sites basically worked together as a way to change BTC into PayPal and vise versa.  Before setting up the site the owner told paypal what he was planning on doing and paypal either gave him to go-ahead or didn't respond.  About two months later paypal shut his account down because his site supposedly violated some odd rule.  

P.S. Oops! Big mistake on my part, I believe the site I'm referring to is coincard and its alternate not bitcoin2cash and bitcoin4cash.


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: Stephen Gornick on August 08, 2011, 08:27:35 AM
This is probably not up to date but I thought bitcoin4cash and bitcoin2cash were both run by the same person

Nope.  The Bitcoin wiki is useful:
 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin2Cash#History
 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_4_Cash



Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: DannyM on August 08, 2011, 02:00:03 PM
I haven't been able to withdraw from bitcoin2cash.com all weekend either, and also, matching orders were not being filled over the weekend either.

I emailed support, and hope for a resolution today.

I previously had an issue with my account due to my openid provider, no fault of bitcoin2cash, and he helped me out even though it involved non-automated work on his/her end. He could have found and excuse or not answered, so I believe bitcoin2cash.com operates in good faith.

Its a shame cause its so illiquid that I wont be able to trade there unless it changes and its such a cool service, I hope it comes back strong.


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: lettucebee on August 08, 2011, 02:14:17 PM
I noticed this morning (monday) that my btc withdraw went through (even though I saw a proxy error screen when I attempted it on sunday--admin must have pushed it through manually based).  No response to my message to admin however.


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: NghtRppr on August 09, 2011, 10:46:40 PM
Anyone notice that bitcoin2cash.com doesn't seem to be working correctly?  The orders page (https://www.bitcoin2cash.com/orders.php) has had both a bid and ask of 4 bitcoin for $13 for at least a day.  (Unless every five minutes a buyer and seller are agreeing to trade 4 bitcoins for $13!)

I've emailed sales@bitcoin2cash.com and received no reply.  I hope we're not going down a mybitcoin path again.  If you know anything please post it here.

I'm a college student and I just got done with finals so I went to Cedar Point to celebrate. You caught me just as I left town for the weekend. I've replied to all emails. I'm looking into the situation.

If you've read that guy's postings here and still trusted him, it's your fault.

The political opinions I espouse and the debates I participate in have absolutely nothing to do with my business dealings. If you don't use my service because you're not a Libertarian, that's your choice but it shouldn't matter.

I noticed this morning (monday) that my btc withdraw went through (even though I saw a proxy error screen when I attempted it on sunday--admin must have pushed it through manually based).  No response to my message to admin however.

Check your inbox. Also, I didn't do anything manually. It must have went through but for some reason the host's load balancer didn't properly display the results. I am alerted whenever the backend isn't working and I haven't gotten any alerts. I'm thinking that it's something to do with our host. I'm looking into the issue now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: Ricochet on August 09, 2011, 11:04:46 PM
Yeah, this happened one of the first times I used the site.  His server-side copy of bitcoind.exe got hung up, causing all trades (and desposits/withdrawls) to be nonfunctional.  Once restarted, things worked fine, and I haven't had any major issues since.  Well, at least none that are his fault (right now Google OpenID is partially broken, probably due to the Google+ launch).

This is probably not up to date but I thought bitcoin4cash and bitcoin2cash were both run by the same person and the sites basically worked together as a way to change BTC into PayPal and vise versa.  Before setting up the site the owner told paypal what he was planning on doing and paypal either gave him to go-ahead or didn't respond.  About two months later paypal shut his account down because his site supposedly violated some odd rule. 

As you mentioned, you were a bit mixed up.  Bitcoin4cash and Bitcoin2cc are two sites both run by MadHatter, and there was controversy regarding his trading practices a while ago.  Coinpal and Coincard are the ones that were run by Mndrix and were shut down by PayPal after several months of successful, authorized operation.  All four of those sites are/were run by a singular person (either MadHatter or mndrix) and you're trading directly with that one person.  Bitcoin2cash here is its own separate entity, a full exchange like MtGox where you post your bids or offers, and the focus is on anonymity.

Quite easy to get confused, with all the similar names and all.


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: BookLover on August 11, 2011, 03:40:52 AM
Thank you for shedding some light this issue Ricochet. :)

How long have you been on this forum?  You obliviously have read no small amount of posts and I remember seeing you photo when I first became a member months ago.


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: mrbashfo on August 11, 2011, 04:13:34 AM
Honestly, it is hard to trust a site that does not update their btc value often. Especially one that keeps it at 13.00 for such a long time -_-


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: Stephen Gornick on August 11, 2011, 11:27:27 AM
a site that does not update their btc value often. Especially one that keeps it at 13.00 for such a long time -_-

Well, the site doesn't set the prices.  What you are seeing is the best price from the unmatched orders, the buy orders (bids) and the sell orders (asks).

The individual orders can be seen here:
 http://www.bitcoin2cash.com/orders.php



Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: NghtRppr on August 13, 2011, 05:29:54 PM
The problem has returned. I'm trying to figure out what exactly the problem is. I'll keep this thread updated as I figure it out.


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: lettucebee on August 14, 2011, 02:47:03 AM
Problem still exists.  Admin dude!  Are you on this?


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: Ricochet on August 15, 2011, 09:28:05 PM
Thank you for shedding some light this issue Ricochet. :)

How long have you been on this forum?  You obliviously have read no small amount of posts and I remember seeing you photo when I first became a member months ago.
From my profile:
Quote
Date Registered:    December 08, 2010, 09:22:53 pm

Honestly, it is hard to trust a site that does not update their btc value often. Especially one that keeps it at 13.00 for such a long time -_-
As Stephen said, it's an exchange, not a shop.  If it's been stuck at $13 for a while, that's because there's very little volume on the site, so no trades have been made.  Of course, the issue of bitcoind.exe hanging often doesn't help.


Title: Re: Bitcoin2Cash having problems?
Post by: NghtRppr on August 17, 2011, 07:38:21 PM
I found the problem. It's not an issue with bitcoind hanging. I've figured out a solution. I'm implementing it now. It will be permanently fixed very soon.

EDIT: It's fixed. Thanks for your patience. Everyone with a balance with our service will receive a deposit of 0.10 BTC from me as an apology for the downtime.