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Title: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: xstr8guy on December 02, 2013, 11:22:09 PM I bought a couple of Singles during the Black Friday sale and they went "In Production" this morning and are now showing "Fulfilled" on my order page. I haven't received a tracking number yet. I hope this is for real and not some more shenanigans.
If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: xjack on December 02, 2013, 11:38:44 PM If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! ASICMiner Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: rammy2k2 on December 02, 2013, 11:41:24 PM I bought a couple of Singles during the Black Friday sale and they went "In Production" this morning and are now showing "Fulfilled" on my order page. I haven't received a tracking number yet. I hope this is for real and not some more shenanigans. If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! lol .. true ;D ;D Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: xstr8guy on December 03, 2013, 12:04:07 AM If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! ASICMiner ASICMiner does not sell to the general public and AFAIK they aren't currently shipping any product to resellers at the moment. If items are in stock it's probably only because the reseller had old overstock. Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: RenHoek on December 03, 2013, 12:16:59 AM I bought a couple of Singles during the Black Friday sale and they went "In Production" this morning and are now showing "Fulfilled" on my order page. I haven't received a tracking number yet. I hope this is for real and not some more shenanigans. If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! but far overpriced, that is ironic too. Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: dropt on December 03, 2013, 12:19:18 AM If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! Bitmain Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: Unacceptable on December 03, 2013, 12:22:02 AM If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! Bitmain WAY overpriced.................$4000+ for 180GH ::) Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: Xian01 on December 03, 2013, 12:22:23 AM If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! BitmainOrdered two more units from these guys. Already have one happily hashing away solid @ 180GH/s. Near triple the hash-rate, and ~half the price at present BTC/USD valuation compared to 2 x 50GH/s BFL Singles - Speaking to value. Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: dropt on December 03, 2013, 12:27:17 AM If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! Bitmain WAY overpriced.................$4000+ for 180GH ::) They're being OC'd to ~200GH. BFL is at $10,000 for something comparable. Asicminer would be ~$5000 for the same. Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: pdawg on December 03, 2013, 12:28:25 AM Until Black Arrow starts shipping, these are the going rates.
Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: miter_myles on December 03, 2013, 12:35:05 AM If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! Bitmain No, this operation is "auctioning" off their units.. they are not in stock, they cannot be ordered via a genuine/proper web shopping cart. They also now have a couple group buys by the Antminer mouthpiece sushi. Overpriced (but between spending BTC between BFL and anyone else... I would go with anyone else) Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: xstr8guy on December 03, 2013, 12:38:40 AM If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! Bitmain The key phrase is "shipping from stock". Aren't Bitmain just auctioning tiny batches that instantly sell out? I'd love to get my hands on some but I always miss the auctions. BFL may be way overpriced right now but I can turn around and resell these on eBay and make $1000 per unit in profit. Whatever the market will bear is where the price will settle. A month ago you couldn't give Singles away on eBay, lol. Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: Unacceptable on December 03, 2013, 12:40:18 AM If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! Bitmain WAY overpriced.................$4000+ for 180GH ::) They're being OC'd to ~200GH. BFL is at $10,000 for something comparable. Asicminer would be ~$5000 for the same. Well,to me they're overpriced..............I don't have $4000+ to spend & I'll never order BFL again...........or Avalon for that matter. The whole BFL/Avalon late delivery has put me way behind what I should have earned had I got my units,in either case,in a "timely" manner :'( I know...cry me a river ::) Sorry to go "off topic" :( Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: dropt on December 03, 2013, 01:06:25 AM If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! Bitmain The key phrase is "shipping from stock". Aren't Bitmain just auctioning tiny batches that instantly sell out? I'd love to get my hands on some but I always miss the auctions. BFL may be way overpriced right now but I can turn around and resell these on eBay and make $1000 per unit in profit. Whatever the market will bear is where the price will settle. A month ago you couldn't give Singles away on eBay, lol. Fair enough. Yes, the auction thing is a bit of a pain in the ass. Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: dropt on December 03, 2013, 01:07:54 AM Well,to me they're overpriced..............I don't have $4000+ to spend & I'll never order BFL again...........or Avalon for that matter. The whole BFL/Avalon late delivery has put me way behind what I should have earned had I got my units,in either case,in a "timely" manner :'( I know...cry me a river ::) Sorry to go "off topic" :( I agree that they're overpriced, but what are the alternatives? I don't think you need to be sorry, you raise some valid points and I'd be super cautious if I got fucked around by everyone in town too. I'm not a fan of the current landscape, but it is what it is. Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: Unacceptable on December 03, 2013, 01:12:25 AM Well,to me they're overpriced..............I don't have $4000+ to spend & I'll never order BFL again...........or Avalon for that matter. The whole BFL/Avalon late delivery has put me way behind what I should have earned had I got my units,in either case,in a "timely" manner :'( I know...cry me a river ::) Sorry to go "off topic" :( I agree that they're overpriced, but what are the alternatives? I don't think you need to be sorry, you raise some valid points and I'd be super cautious if I got fucked around by everyone in town too. I'm not a fan of the current landscape, but it is what it is. The alternative for me is to wait :D Late dec-jan looks promising...if producers do what they say they are going to do,when they say they are going to do it ::) I need to see REAL chips,REAL evidence from anyone anymore.My trust level is gone....Thanks BFL/Avalon ;D Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: bcp19 on December 03, 2013, 03:19:38 AM I bought a couple of Singles during the Black Friday sale and they went "In Production" this morning and are now showing "Fulfilled" on my order page. I haven't received a tracking number yet. I hope this is for real and not some more shenanigans. What I find funny is that I made a poll ~2 months ago asking "If I were to purchase a BFL product today whould I have it in hand in 2 months". 90% of people said Definitely NOT! If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: ScaryHash on December 03, 2013, 03:32:11 AM Well, that is refreshing to hear.
At least they are being truthful, for once. Time will tell. Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: xstr8guy on December 03, 2013, 03:32:45 AM I bought a couple of Singles during the Black Friday sale and they went "In Production" this morning and are now showing "Fulfilled" on my order page. I haven't received a tracking number yet. I hope this is for real and not some more shenanigans. What I find funny is that I made a poll ~2 months ago asking "If I were to purchase a BFL product today whould I have it in hand in 2 months". 90% of people said Definitely NOT! If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! As long as it's not a Jalapeno, they're still showing out of stock. Hmm, just checked again. Jalapenos aren't even listed for sale now although they've added Little Singles. Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: xjack on December 03, 2013, 03:54:01 AM If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! ASICMiner ASICMiner does not sell to the general public and AFAIK they aren't currently shipping any product to resellers at the moment. If items are in stock it's probably only because the reseller had old overstock. I guess if you want to nitpick about who ships the miner to you. I just got new (not overstock) asicminer gear last week, took 1 week from order to my door at a better price per GH than BFL. Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: xstr8guy on December 03, 2013, 04:56:12 AM If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! ASICMiner ASICMiner does not sell to the general public and AFAIK they aren't currently shipping any product to resellers at the moment. If items are in stock it's probably only because the reseller had old overstock. I guess if you want to nitpick about who ships the miner to you. I just got new (not overstock) asicminer gear last week, took 1 week from order to my door at a better price per GH than BFL. Who's selling ASICMiner? Are these the new Cubes? Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: Syke on December 03, 2013, 05:02:43 AM What I find funny is that I made a poll ~2 months ago asking "If I were to purchase a BFL product today whould I have it in hand in 2 months". 90% of people said Definitely NOT! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=299468.0 2 months after 9/22 would be 11/22. Let's look at the shipping update from 11/22. https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/379-friday-november-22-2013-shipping-update.html Quote Jalapenos 5 gh/s: May 30, 2013 Little Singles 25 gh/s and 30 Upgrades: July 3, 2013 Single 50 gh/s and 60 Upgrades: June 19, 2013 pay date MiniRigs: All June 2012-November 2013 MiniRig orders complete. 3 out of 4 lines failed to deliver in the 2 month time period. Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: xstr8guy on December 03, 2013, 05:46:43 AM It looks like Avalon is currently selling from stock too... http://avalon-asics.com/product/avalon-4-module-unit-gen1/
So we have the following prices for currently shipping ASICs... Butterfly Labs Single - 50GH/s @ $2499.00 (BFLBLACKFRIDAY Discount 25% off price $1874.05) Avalon 4 Module Unit - 85GH/s(?) @ BTC3.5 @ current Bitstamp price $1024 = $3584 ASICMiner Cube - 30GH/s @ BTC1.99 WTCR price (http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01) @ Bitstamp price $1024 = $2037 Bitmain Antminer - 180GH/s @ Auction price of BTC4.5 = $4608 BFL - $49.98 per GH/s (BFLBLACKFRIDAY $37.48) Avalon - $42.16 per GH/s ASICMiner - $67.90 per GH/s Bitmain - $25.60 per GH/s Bitmain is clearly the best buy. Please correct me if I've entered incorrect data. Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: Xian01 on December 03, 2013, 08:09:22 AM ASICMiner Cube - 30GH/s @ BTC1.99 WTCR price (http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01) @ Bitstamp price $1024 = $2037 These can be had for 1 BTC in group buys, which works out to ~$34.13 per GH/s Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: JimiQ84 on December 03, 2013, 08:50:25 AM ASICMiner Cube - 30GH/s @ BTC1.99 WTCR price (http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01) @ Bitstamp price $1024 = $2037 These can be had for 1 BTC in group buys, which works out to ~$34.13 per GH/s and easily overclockable to 38GH/s, which brings us down to ~$28.95 per GH/s (with mtgox price of $1100 per BTC) or ~$26.95 with bitstamp price $1024 Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: bcp19 on December 03, 2013, 11:03:19 AM What I find funny is that I made a poll ~2 months ago asking "If I were to purchase a BFL product today whould I have it in hand in 2 months". 90% of people said Definitely NOT! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=299468.0 2 months after 9/22 would be 11/22. Let's look at the shipping update from 11/22. https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/379-friday-november-22-2013-shipping-update.html Quote Jalapenos 5 gh/s: May 30, 2013 Little Singles 25 gh/s and 30 Upgrades: July 3, 2013 Single 50 gh/s and 60 Upgrades: June 19, 2013 pay date MiniRigs: All June 2012-November 2013 MiniRig orders complete. 3 out of 4 lines failed to deliver in the 2 month time period. Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: Beans on December 03, 2013, 11:10:17 AM I bought a couple of Singles during the Black Friday sale and they went "In Production" this morning and are now showing "Fulfilled" on my order page. I haven't received a tracking number yet. I hope this is for real and not some more shenanigans. If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! My July jally has been fullfilled for over a week and in production for 2-3 weeks. You can't believe anything BF says. Wait until they actually do something. Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: k9quaint on December 03, 2013, 05:33:12 PM What I find funny is that I made a poll ~2 months ago asking "If I were to purchase a BFL product today whould I have it in hand in 2 months". 90% of people said Definitely NOT! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=299468.0 2 months after 9/22 would be 11/22. Let's look at the shipping update from 11/22. https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/379-friday-november-22-2013-shipping-update.html Quote Jalapenos 5 gh/s: May 30, 2013 Little Singles 25 gh/s and 30 Upgrades: July 3, 2013 Single 50 gh/s and 60 Upgrades: June 19, 2013 pay date MiniRigs: All June 2012-November 2013 MiniRig orders complete. 3 out of 4 lines failed to deliver in the 2 month time period. If you had ordered 2 months ago, you would not have your unit in hand. What people underestimated was the number of BFL orders placed in the July-November timeframe. In 3 days, BFL shipped 4 months worth of pre-orders. https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/380-monday-november-25-2013-shipping-update.html https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/382-thanksgiving-blog.html I guess there were not as many rubes buying BFL as we thought. Score 1 point for humanity. Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: Tehfiend on December 03, 2013, 06:18:14 PM I bought a couple of Singles during the Black Friday sale and they went "In Production" this morning and are now showing "Fulfilled" on my order page. I haven't received a tracking number yet. I hope this is for real and not some more shenanigans. If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! My July jally has been fullfilled for over a week and in production for 2-3 weeks. You can't believe anything BF says. Wait until they actually do something. Yes please let us know when you actually have it in hand otherwise there's nothing to see here... Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: xjack on December 03, 2013, 09:17:52 PM If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock. Oh the irony! ASICMiner ASICMiner does not sell to the general public and AFAIK they aren't currently shipping any product to resellers at the moment. If items are in stock it's probably only because the reseller had old overstock. I guess if you want to nitpick about who ships the miner to you. I just got new (not overstock) asicminer gear last week, took 1 week from order to my door at a better price per GH than BFL. Who's selling ASICMiner? Are these the new Cubes? Group buy - Canary and CrazyGuy both at 1 to 1.08BTC. Hashing at 38.9 (36.4 at Pool). Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: Bicknellski on January 11, 2014, 08:40:47 AM https://forums.butterflylabs.com/post-sales-customer-service/7405-no-refund-me-bad.html
Quote Refund offer from Jan 2014 newsletter is not true, by my experience. My story goes... - Ordered Nov 27, paid 28, 50GH boxes @ $2,499 advertised as IN STOCK, SHIPPING IMMEDIATELY!!! - Followed instructions for payment and emailing office@ with the wire info. - No email from BFL. - Missed Black Friday sale, damn. - More than two weeks later funds confirmed received. I log on everyday to BFL account, that was the only reason I knew of the status change. - No email from BFL. - Price drops, grrr. Not a happy Christmas. - Another two weeks go by then status to processing. - No email from BFL. - Price drops, F-me. - Not a happy new year. - Jan 2014 newsletter allowing request for refund on 65nm orders that haven't shipped. I emailed office@ right away requesting for refund. PM BFL_Emily the same request. Glimmer of hope. Who would want their $2,499 boxes when they're worth $984 now? Not me. - Today, I checked my BFL account and its marked as Completed. Ready for pickup via Fedex - No email from BFL More hurt… - I requested USPS for shipping because they won't have brokerage fees or much less than Fedex, items being shipped to Canada. - I will have to pay sales tax since its being shipped to Canada, by all indication, the invoice will show $2,499 instead of the current $984 price, so I'll end up paying more tax. - Difficulty level rose 1 or twice already, loss of BTC mining income. Title: Re: BFL appears to actually be shipping Singles from stock Post by: twib2 on January 11, 2014, 04:53:46 PM It looks like Avalon is currently selling from stock too... http://avalon-asics.com/product/avalon-4-module-unit-gen1/ So we have the following prices for currently shipping ASICs... Butterfly Labs Single - 50GH/s @ $2499.00 (BFLBLACKFRIDAY Discount 25% off price $1874.05) Avalon 4 Module Unit - 85GH/s(?) @ BTC3.5 @ current Bitstamp price $1024 = $3584 ASICMiner Cube - 30GH/s @ BTC1.99 WTCR price (http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01) @ Bitstamp price $1024 = $2037 Bitmain Antminer - 180GH/s @ Auction price of BTC4.5 = $4608 BFL - $49.98 per GH/s (BFLBLACKFRIDAY $37.48) Avalon - $42.16 per GH/s ASICMiner - $67.90 per GH/s Bitmain - $25.60 per GH/s Bitmain is clearly the best buy. Please correct me if I've entered incorrect data. Wow, your numbers are not at all current. You can get Cubes for 0.78 BTC shipped in Group Buys here. Ant miners are going for 3 BTC right now, and I've seen as low as 2.4 BTC. And Avalon 200 GH/s units (several brands now) are shipping at 2.4 BTC (or less - I got mine for $1950 shipped, should arrive Mon or Tue). All of this right here under Group Buys - definitely worth keeping an eye out there. The best bang/buck seems to be the Avalon units right now, but electricity could bounce it to the Bitmain Antminer S1s, especially if you can get a good deal on the S1. |