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December 03, 2013, 04:56:12 AM
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If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock.  Oh the irony! 

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ASICMiner does not sell to the general public and AFAIK they aren't currently shipping any product to resellers at the moment.  If items are in stock it's probably only because the reseller had old overstock.

I guess if you want to nitpick about who ships the miner to you.  I just got new (not overstock) asicminer gear last week, took 1 week from order to my door at a better price per GH than BFL.

Who's selling ASICMiner?  Are these the new Cubes?
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December 03, 2013, 05:02:43 AM
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What I find funny is that I made a poll ~2 months ago asking "If I were to purchase a BFL product today whould I have it in hand in 2 months".  90% of people said Definitely NOT! 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=299468.0

2 months after 9/22 would be 11/22. Let's look at the shipping update from 11/22.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/379-friday-november-22-2013-shipping-update.html

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Jalapenos 5 gh/s: May 30, 2013
Little Singles 25 gh/s and 30 Upgrades: July 3, 2013
Single 50 gh/s and 60 Upgrades: June 19, 2013 pay date
MiniRigs: All June 2012-November 2013 MiniRig orders complete.

3 out of 4 lines failed to deliver in the 2 month time period.

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December 03, 2013, 05:46:43 AM
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It looks like Avalon is currently selling from stock too... http://avalon-asics.com/product/avalon-4-module-unit-gen1/

So we have the following prices for currently shipping ASICs...

Butterfly Labs Single - 50GH/s @ $2499.00 (BFLBLACKFRIDAY Discount 25% off price $1874.05)
Avalon 4 Module Unit - 85GH/s(?) @ BTC3.5 @ current Bitstamp price $1024 = $3584
ASICMiner Cube - 30GH/s @ BTC1.99 WTCR price @ Bitstamp price $1024 = $2037
Bitmain Antminer - 180GH/s @ Auction price of BTC4.5 = $4608

BFL - $49.98 per GH/s (BFLBLACKFRIDAY $37.48)
Avalon - $42.16 per GH/s
ASICMiner - $67.90 per GH/s
Bitmain - $25.60 per GH/s

Bitmain is clearly the best buy.

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December 03, 2013, 08:09:22 AM
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ASICMiner Cube - 30GH/s @ BTC1.99 WTCR price @ Bitstamp price $1024 = $2037

 These can be had for 1 BTC in group buys, which works out to ~$34.13 per GH/s
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December 03, 2013, 08:50:25 AM
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ASICMiner Cube - 30GH/s @ BTC1.99 WTCR price @ Bitstamp price $1024 = $2037

 These can be had for 1 BTC in group buys, which works out to ~$34.13 per GH/s

and easily overclockable to 38GH/s, which brings us down to ~$28.95 per GH/s (with mtgox price of $1100 per BTC) or ~$26.95 with bitstamp price $1024
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December 03, 2013, 11:03:19 AM
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What I find funny is that I made a poll ~2 months ago asking "If I were to purchase a BFL product today whould I have it in hand in 2 months".  90% of people said Definitely NOT! 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=299468.0

2 months after 9/22 would be 11/22. Let's look at the shipping update from 11/22.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/379-friday-november-22-2013-shipping-update.html

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Jalapenos 5 gh/s: May 30, 2013
Little Singles 25 gh/s and 30 Upgrades: July 3, 2013
Single 50 gh/s and 60 Upgrades: June 19, 2013 pay date
MiniRigs: All June 2012-November 2013 MiniRig orders complete.

3 out of 4 lines failed to deliver in the 2 month time period.
Love how you fail to see the point.  Even if I had said 3 months back then, the response would have been nearly the same.  It's like the guy I offered a bet to that they'd be caught up by Dec 15th after he predicted Mar 2014 and he refused the bet.  Nothing but piss and vinegar.

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December 03, 2013, 11:10:17 AM
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I bought a couple of Singles during the Black Friday sale and they went "In Production" this morning and are now showing "Fulfilled" on my order page.  I haven't received a tracking number yet.  I hope this is for real and not some more shenanigans.

If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock.  Oh the irony! 

My July jally has been fullfilled for over a week and in production for 2-3 weeks. You can't believe anything BF says. Wait until they actually do something.
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December 03, 2013, 05:33:12 PM
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What I find funny is that I made a poll ~2 months ago asking "If I were to purchase a BFL product today whould I have it in hand in 2 months".  90% of people said Definitely NOT! 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=299468.0

2 months after 9/22 would be 11/22. Let's look at the shipping update from 11/22.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/379-friday-november-22-2013-shipping-update.html

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Jalapenos 5 gh/s: May 30, 2013
Little Singles 25 gh/s and 30 Upgrades: July 3, 2013
Single 50 gh/s and 60 Upgrades: June 19, 2013 pay date
MiniRigs: All June 2012-November 2013 MiniRig orders complete.

3 out of 4 lines failed to deliver in the 2 month time period.
Love how you fail to see the point.  Even if I had said 3 months back then, the response would have been nearly the same.  It's like the guy I offered a bet to that they'd be caught up by Dec 15th after he predicted Mar 2014 and he refused the bet.  Nothing but piss and vinegar.

If you had ordered 2 months ago, you would not have your unit in hand. What people underestimated was the number of BFL orders placed in the July-November timeframe. In 3 days, BFL shipped 4 months worth of pre-orders.

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/380-monday-november-25-2013-shipping-update.html
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/382-thanksgiving-blog.html

I guess there were not as many rubes buying BFL as we thought. Score 1 point for humanity.

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December 03, 2013, 06:18:14 PM
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I bought a couple of Singles during the Black Friday sale and they went "In Production" this morning and are now showing "Fulfilled" on my order page.  I haven't received a tracking number yet.  I hope this is for real and not some more shenanigans.

If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock.  Oh the irony! 

My July jally has been fullfilled for over a week and in production for 2-3 weeks. You can't believe anything BF says. Wait until they actually do something.

Yes please let us know when you actually have it in hand otherwise there's nothing to see here...
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December 03, 2013, 09:17:52 PM
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If true, this would make BFL the only current ASIC vendor instantly fulfilling new orders from stock.  Oh the irony! 

ASICMiner
                                                   

ASICMiner does not sell to the general public and AFAIK they aren't currently shipping any product to resellers at the moment.  If items are in stock it's probably only because the reseller had old overstock.

I guess if you want to nitpick about who ships the miner to you.  I just got new (not overstock) asicminer gear last week, took 1 week from order to my door at a better price per GH than BFL.

Who's selling ASICMiner?  Are these the new Cubes?

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January 11, 2014, 08:40:47 AM
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https://forums.butterflylabs.com/post-sales-customer-service/7405-no-refund-me-bad.html

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Refund offer from Jan 2014 newsletter is not true, by my experience.

My story goes...

- Ordered Nov 27, paid 28, 50GH boxes @ $2,499 advertised as IN STOCK, SHIPPING IMMEDIATELY!!!
- Followed instructions for payment and emailing office@ with the wire info.
- No email from BFL.
- Missed Black Friday sale, damn.
- More than two weeks later funds confirmed received. I log on everyday to BFL account, that was the only reason I knew of the status change.
- No email from BFL.
- Price drops, grrr. Not a happy Christmas.
- Another two weeks go by then status to processing.
- No email from BFL.
- Price drops, F-me.
- Not a happy new year.
- Jan 2014 newsletter allowing request for refund on 65nm orders that haven't shipped. I emailed office@ right away requesting for refund. PM BFL_Emily the same request. Glimmer of hope. Who would want their $2,499 boxes when they're worth $984 now? Not me.

- Today, I checked my BFL account and its marked as Completed. Ready for pickup via Fedex
- No email from BFL

More hurt…
- I requested USPS for shipping because they won't have brokerage fees or much less than Fedex, items being shipped to Canada.
- I will have to pay sales tax since its being shipped to Canada, by all indication, the invoice will show $2,499 instead of the current $984 price, so I'll end up paying more tax.
- Difficulty level rose 1 or twice already, loss of BTC mining income.

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January 11, 2014, 04:53:46 PM
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It looks like Avalon is currently selling from stock too... http://avalon-asics.com/product/avalon-4-module-unit-gen1/

So we have the following prices for currently shipping ASICs...

Butterfly Labs Single - 50GH/s @ $2499.00 (BFLBLACKFRIDAY Discount 25% off price $1874.05)
Avalon 4 Module Unit - 85GH/s(?) @ BTC3.5 @ current Bitstamp price $1024 = $3584
ASICMiner Cube - 30GH/s @ BTC1.99 WTCR price @ Bitstamp price $1024 = $2037
Bitmain Antminer - 180GH/s @ Auction price of BTC4.5 = $4608

BFL - $49.98 per GH/s (BFLBLACKFRIDAY $37.48)
Avalon - $42.16 per GH/s
ASICMiner - $67.90 per GH/s
Bitmain - $25.60 per GH/s

Bitmain is clearly the best buy.

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Wow, your numbers are not at all current.

You can get Cubes for 0.78 BTC shipped in Group Buys here.  Ant miners are going for 3 BTC right now, and I've seen as low as 2.4 BTC.  And Avalon 200 GH/s units (several brands now) are shipping at 2.4 BTC (or less - I got mine for $1950 shipped, should arrive Mon or Tue).  All of this right here under Group Buys - definitely worth keeping an eye out there.  The best bang/buck seems to be the Avalon units right now, but electricity could bounce it to the Bitmain Antminer S1s, especially if you can get a good deal on the S1.

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