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Title: Speculative Idea
Post by: fleabag on December 04, 2013, 01:43:31 PM
Last night I had an epiphany. But, first off I will man up and admit i was wrong about everything. Let bygones be bygones. Now I am here to make some money and propose a great investment opportunity. I have an idea that will take the crypto currency markets by storm. I want to get some information together first but I think what I am going to offer could take bitcoin to the next level. This is going to be totally serious and totally legit. I am thinking of doing something similar to a private placement. Issue shares see how things go and if things look promising go public. Stay tuned.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: wopwop on December 04, 2013, 01:44:21 PM
lol gtfo


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: fleabag on December 04, 2013, 06:50:18 PM
lol gtfo

whats so funny?


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: antoineph on December 04, 2013, 06:55:17 PM
There's no point in telling strangers you have an amazing idea unless you're gonna tell us what it is.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: piramida on December 04, 2013, 07:01:05 PM
I guess it's pretty clear what the idea is - it's to collect some bitcoins and run away with them :)


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: fleabag on December 04, 2013, 07:11:15 PM
There's no point in telling strangers you have an amazing idea unless you're gonna tell us what it is.

I have some things to do first. get my web address and then incorporate. But lets put it this way. I have looked and searched and googled and have not seen this idea yet for bitcoins. So I am going to be the first one to do it. Also I will be financing the entire project myself. So I am not looking for handouts. It will be an up and running venture before anyone invests a penny.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: fleabag on December 04, 2013, 07:13:49 PM
I guess it's pretty clear what the idea is - it's to collect some bitcoins and run away with them :)

Sorry. I am putting the money up. And let me say this. It will be IMPOSSIBLE to scam anyone.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: ablewasiereisawelba on December 04, 2013, 07:13:58 PM
Post your idea. Worst case scenario, we tell you why it doesn't make sense and you don't waste time working on it. Best case scenario, you generate hype behind it.

No one is going to steal your idea. A good idea is basically worthless compared to how well the idea is executed.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: fleabag on December 04, 2013, 07:22:18 PM
Post your idea. Worst case scenario, we tell you why it doesn't make sense and you don't waste time working on it. Best case scenario, you generate hype behind it.

No one is going to steal your idea. A good idea is basically worthless compared to how well the idea is executed.

If anything I need to first run my idea past the heavy hitters on this forum. They would be my target of the private placement. If they pass Its something that could be pitched to vc's. Bottom line it cannot lose.



Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: kireinaha on December 04, 2013, 07:23:05 PM
Be careful, fleabag. If this is a game changing idea that you've got here, people will do anything they can to pry it away from you. What is it? A new cryptocurrency?


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: ablewasiereisawelba on December 04, 2013, 07:23:40 PM
Post your idea. Worst case scenario, we tell you why it doesn't make sense and you don't waste time working on it. Best case scenario, you generate hype behind it.

No one is going to steal your idea. A good idea is basically worthless compared to how well the idea is executed.

If anything I need to first run my idea past the heavy hitters on this forum. They would be my target of the private placement. If they pass Its something that could be pitched to vc's. Bottom line it cannot lose.


Are you looking for startup capital and/or enough BTC to run your idea? PM me.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: fleabag on December 04, 2013, 07:28:47 PM
Be careful, fleabag. If this is a game changing idea that you've got here, people will do anything they can to pry it away from you. What is it? A new cryptocurrency?

That is what I mean, people will steal the idea just as they would your bitcoins if they had the chance. Lets put it this way I will have a prospectus but I will not be looking for startup funds. it will already be up and running before, I look for any type of capital. I will keep you in the loop.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: fleabag on December 04, 2013, 07:30:26 PM
Post your idea. Worst case scenario, we tell you why it doesn't make sense and you don't waste time working on it. Best case scenario, you generate hype behind it.

No one is going to steal your idea. A good idea is basically worthless compared to how well the idea is executed.

If anything I need to first run my idea past the heavy hitters on this forum. They would be my target of the private placement. If they pass Its something that could be pitched to vc's. Bottom line it cannot lose.


Are you looking for startup capital and/or enough BTC to run your idea? PM me.

No I am doing this on my own. I don't want a nickel from anyone. When everything is up and running, thats when I will present it to the investing public. But you also I will keep in the loop.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: ablewasiereisawelba on December 04, 2013, 07:56:19 PM
That is what I mean, people will steal the idea just as they would your bitcoins if they had the chance.
Any VC will tell you that this is wrong.

Have you ever started a business? Have you ever made a venture capital investment, or even received one?

The best thing you can do right now is build your idea. The second best thing you can do right now is post your idea. The worst thing you can do right now is post about "having an idea" and nothing else.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: Badonkadonk on December 04, 2013, 08:14:01 PM
That is what I mean, people will steal the idea just as they would your bitcoins if they had the chance.
Any VC will tell you that this is wrong.

Have you ever started a business? Have you ever made a venture capital investment, or even received one?

The best thing you can do right now is build your idea. The second best thing you can do right now is post your idea. The worst thing you can do right now is post about "having an idea" and nothing else.

said the guy that wanted to steal the idea ! Z O M G! :D


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: piramida on December 04, 2013, 08:35:04 PM
ideas are free, it's only the implementation that matters


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: PenAndPaper on December 04, 2013, 08:47:15 PM
I want to get some information together first but I think what I am going to offer could take bitcoin to the next level.

So you are going to make us an offer we can't refuse?  8)


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: bl4kjaguar on December 04, 2013, 09:19:26 PM
If you have or intend to have a prospectus then you will find it beneficial to work with VC networks and companies who can assist you in starting up your hedge fund. A hedge fund is generally the best vehicle, but an advisory company can help you out. Google is your friend, and I am your friend with some experience. ;)


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: fleabag on December 04, 2013, 09:39:57 PM
I am going to give you all a hint "stabilization"


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: notme on December 04, 2013, 09:43:13 PM
I am going to give you all a hint "stabilization"

If it is any kind of investment platform, good luck climbing the wall of trust.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: Peter Lambert on December 04, 2013, 09:44:23 PM
I am going to give you all a hint "stabilization"

I am going out on a limb here, but based on what you have told us so far I now conclude your idea will not work and you are wasting your time.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: fleabag on December 04, 2013, 09:45:20 PM
I am going to give you all a hint "stabilization"

If it is any kind of investment platform, good luck climbing the wall of trust.

what do you mean?


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: fleabag on December 04, 2013, 09:54:31 PM
I am going to give you all a hint "stabilization"

I am going out on a limb here, but based on what you have told us so far I now conclude your idea will not work and you are wasting your time.

ok whatever you say.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: emanymton on December 04, 2013, 09:55:55 PM
I am going to give you all a hint "stabilization"

If it is any kind of investment platform, good luck climbing the wall of trust.

what do you mean?
http://i.cdn.turner.com/asfix/repository/8a250ba12f7d09ee012fa194fb33012d/thumbnail_1621992949508573853.jpg


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: notme on December 04, 2013, 10:05:23 PM
I am going to give you all a hint "stabilization"

If it is any kind of investment platform, good luck climbing the wall of trust.

what do you mean?

Bitcoiners demand a lot more from their investment platforms now than in the beginning.  Many scams have been pulled, security breaches (of a technical and social nature), incorrect calculations involving money, regulatory issues (including countless seized accounts), etc.

Everything you do will be scrutinized, from your code, to your jurisdiction of registration, to your legal compliance, etc.

Finally, even after you dot your t's and cross your i's you have to get people to trust you enough to hand over money to you.  And if you are hoping to stabilize bitcoin, you are talking a lot of money.

It's not impossible, but good luck.  You will need a fair share to make it.  But, as they say, the harder you work, the luckier you get.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: BurtW on December 04, 2013, 10:19:25 PM
I would say that most members with an activity of over let's say about 500 are "hitters" over say 800 are "heavy hitters"?

You have the attention of a few in this thread.

You might try to PM or email your idea to one that you trust and get their opinion.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: cbeast on December 04, 2013, 10:25:12 PM
If you have a good idea and are unwilling to share it, you will not be trusted. Even if your idea requires centralised capital,  then your idea will be copied anyway. It's just a good idea to let us help you make the idea work. We all benefit from successful Bitcoin ideas because we're investors already by owning Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: fleabag on December 05, 2013, 01:13:46 AM
If you have a good idea and are unwilling to share it, you will not be trusted. Even if your idea requires centralised capital,  then your idea will be copied anyway. It's just a good idea to let us help you make the idea work. We all benefit from successful Bitcoin ideas because we're investors already by owning Bitcoin.

I hear you all. But not divulging what I am working on should not be misconstrued as hiding something or being dishonest. Sorry but if the idea sucks I get bashed, and if the idea is great someone is going to start working on it and stealing it. So it is a lose-lose for me.

 Let me propose something to everyone: I have an idea/application that will in an indirect way stabilize the wild price swings of bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies. I know business' are slowly accepting bitcoins, but this is strictly for the most part a novelty. I think the first stable currency might be the one that goes totally balls to the wall mainstream. Would you guys be interested? Would you be interested in shares or being part owner of the company? This will be totally out in the open, everything on the table type of deal. No anonymous anything. So there should not be any fears of someone stealing anyones money. Thoughts?


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: CEG5952 on December 05, 2013, 01:21:50 AM
are you talking about running some kind of ponzi scheme? out with it.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: fleabag on December 05, 2013, 01:38:51 AM
are you talking about running some kind of ponzi scheme? out with it.

LMFAO!
That was good!



Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: ablewasiereisawelba on December 05, 2013, 03:39:50 AM
If you have a good idea and are unwilling to share it, you will not be trusted. Even if your idea requires centralised capital,  then your idea will be copied anyway. It's just a good idea to let us help you make the idea work. We all benefit from successful Bitcoin ideas because we're investors already by owning Bitcoin.

I hear you all. But not divulging what I am working on should not be misconstrued as hiding something or being dishonest. Sorry but if the idea sucks I get bashed, and if the idea is great someone is going to start working on it and stealing it. So it is a lose-lose for me.

 Let me propose something to everyone: I have an idea/application that will in an indirect way stabilize the wild price swings of bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies. I know business' are slowly accepting bitcoins, but this is strictly for the most part a novelty. I think the first stable currency might be the one that goes totally balls to the wall mainstream. Would you guys be interested? Would you be interested in shares or being part owner of the company? This will be totally out in the open, everything on the table type of deal. No anonymous anything. So there should not be any fears of someone stealing anyones money. Thoughts?

Your idea, which is for a "stable altcoin", is dumb.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: nicomekl on December 05, 2013, 03:44:10 AM
Coming from a guy named fleabag, I don't see how this couldn't be legitimate.

http://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/non-make/carbuying/carbuying_601122_600.jpg

 Please post your Bitcoin address so that I can invest in your idea right away!


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: BitcoinAshley on December 05, 2013, 03:54:05 AM
If you have a good idea and are unwilling to share it, you will not be trusted. Even if your idea requires centralised capital,  then your idea will be copied anyway. It's just a good idea to let us help you make the idea work. We all benefit from successful Bitcoin ideas because we're investors already by owning Bitcoin.

I hear you all. But not divulging what I am working on should not be misconstrued as hiding something or being dishonest. Sorry but if the idea sucks I get bashed, and if the idea is great someone is going to start working on it and stealing it. So it is a lose-lose for me.

 Let me propose something to everyone: I have an idea/application that will in an indirect way stabilize the wild price swings of bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies. I know business' are slowly accepting bitcoins, but this is strictly for the most part a novelty. I think the first stable currency might be the one that goes totally balls to the wall mainstream. Would you guys be interested? Would you be interested in shares or being part owner of the company? This will be totally out in the open, everything on the table type of deal. No anonymous anything. So there should not be any fears of someone stealing anyones money. Thoughts?



And just how exactly would this generate a profit?

I like it when people get excited about new ideas in the Bitcoin world and have the drive to implement them. Just make sure that this is something that's actually profitable. Run some simulations.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: fleabag on December 05, 2013, 10:52:40 AM
If you have a good idea and are unwilling to share it, you will not be trusted. Even if your idea requires centralised capital,  then your idea will be copied anyway. It's just a good idea to let us help you make the idea work. We all benefit from successful Bitcoin ideas because we're investors already by owning Bitcoin.

I hear you all. But not divulging what I am working on should not be misconstrued as hiding something or being dishonest. Sorry but if the idea sucks I get bashed, and if the idea is great someone is going to start working on it and stealing it. So it is a lose-lose for me.

 Let me propose something to everyone: I have an idea/application that will in an indirect way stabilize the wild price swings of bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies. I know business' are slowly accepting bitcoins, but this is strictly for the most part a novelty. I think the first stable currency might be the one that goes totally balls to the wall mainstream. Would you guys be interested? Would you be interested in shares or being part owner of the company? This will be totally out in the open, everything on the table type of deal. No anonymous anything. So there should not be any fears of someone stealing anyones money. Thoughts?

Your idea, which is for a "stable altcoin", is dumb.

Its not an altcoin.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: BurtW on December 05, 2013, 12:57:44 PM
Instead of all these "teaser" posts why not pick one trusted long time member and explain your idea to them just to see what they think.  It would be a much better use of your (and our) time.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: Badonkadonk on December 05, 2013, 06:36:20 PM
i don't realy see the point of coming on a forum, telling a bunch of strangers "i have an awesome idea, but i wont tell you what".
at least be honest and go "i want attention" :P


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: t3a on December 05, 2013, 06:41:35 PM
Reported for making a terrible post.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: BTChap on December 06, 2013, 05:02:37 PM
Two pages on an idea none believe in id a good start. Keep at it OP, following from now. GO.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: virtualmaster on December 06, 2013, 06:54:07 PM
Last night I had an epiphany.
Sorry. Do you feel better now ?


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: successquik on December 07, 2013, 08:06:38 AM
Math is math is math is math.

The idea of a  stable bitcoin/cryptocoin is laudable.

But, then again, there is reality.

This has been a fun thread to follow while I watch the overnight trading in btc... Wow!

SQ


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: oxxymoronn on December 09, 2013, 03:07:23 AM
I guess it's pretty clear what the idea is - it's to collect some bitcoins and run away with them :)

lol this one actually made me laugh


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: oxxymoronn on December 09, 2013, 03:15:45 AM
Honestly though, to merely come out and say that you have an amazing idea that is going to revolutionize the crypto industry and ask for investment, yet provide no kind of hint whatsoever as to your business model is simply a waste of everyone's time.

You are right to not divulge your "amazing" idea on a public forum..... however to expect any kind of responses from strangers other than complete skepticism with the way you have inquired about investment makes me question your entire credibility.


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: Badonkadonk on December 09, 2013, 08:51:14 PM
guys, seriously. seriously guys, seriously.
i got an amazing idea. seriously its so awesome! seriously! its going to change the world! seriously, its incredible! seriously guys! seriously!
seriously, just send some btc to 17yqbxMYqFVgsHc3JjtETefBzd7ciPeehT and ill make it all come true guys! seriously guys, seriously!
 8)


Title: Re: Speculative Idea
Post by: CycleSurfer on December 10, 2013, 11:26:14 PM
Vague, attention whoring hot air.  Wasting people's time with announcing an idea with zero content.