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Title: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: elendorsuma on December 09, 2013, 08:00:04 PM
Hi there,
i made my first sale via localbitcoins and a friend told me to be carefrull because if someone pays you with a stolen account or claims that someone stole his account they can close your bank account due to a fraud investigation

has anyone heard of any concerns ?


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: ajax3592 on December 09, 2013, 08:27:24 PM
Try meeting in-person and receiving in-hand cash from next time.
That will rule out any such issues.


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: elendorsuma on December 09, 2013, 08:34:33 PM
Try meeting in-person and receiving in-hand cash from next time.
That will rule out any such issues.

is it a big thing then these stolen bank accounts?

meeting in cash is not good as its time consuming and small amounts not worth my time..

i thought localbitcoins was good and safe?


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: elendorsuma on December 09, 2013, 09:42:40 PM
anymore info on this?


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: DannyHamilton on December 10, 2013, 03:53:25 AM
i thought localbitcoins was good and safe?

localbitcoins is good and safe for finding someone local to meet for exchange of BTC for local currency.

It's up to you to make sure you don't accept risky forms of payment.

There is nothing that localbitcoins can do to protect you if you choose not to meet with he person paying you and you choose to accept high risk payments.


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: elendorsuma on December 10, 2013, 05:25:46 PM
i thought localbitcoins was good and safe?

localbitcoins is good and safe for finding someone local to meet for exchange of BTC for local currency.

It's up to you to make sure you don't accept risky forms of payment.

There is nothing that localbitcoins can do to protect you if you choose not to meet with he person paying you and you choose to accept high risk payments.

a high risk payment would be a trasnfer via online banking?

i found a couple of people who seem really nice, and have feed back its likly they are the real deal right?


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: DannyHamilton on December 10, 2013, 05:38:46 PM
a high risk payment would be a trasnfer via online banking?

A high risk payment is ANY payment that can be reversed.

Some examples are:
Credit card
Debit Card
PayPal
ACH bank transfer
SWIFT bank transfer
Most other bank transfers
Personal check
GreenDot MoneyPak

Additionally the following can be risky due to the possibility that the received payment could be counterfeit:
Cashiers check
Bank check
Certified check
Money order

i found a couple of people who seem really nice, and have feed back its likly they are the real deal right?

Scammers and thieves usually seem really nice.  If they didn't then they wouldn't be able to trick people.

Scammers and thieves often will do some good exchanges first so they can get some good feedback.  Then once people trust them, they are able to steal a larger sum.  Additionally, scammers and thieves can create fake feedback for themselves.


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: jones31 on December 10, 2013, 05:45:37 PM
Localbitcoins was supposed to help people find and buy/sell bitcoins locally.
When you start buying with different methods and you don't actually meet the person and deal in cash you're opened to such problems.

Although I never heard of somebody in the situation above.
Not stolen bank account at least.


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: elendorsuma on December 10, 2013, 05:46:44 PM
bloody hell.....


so whats the chances how often has anyone heard of dodgy people on localbitcoins>???

im scared,.....


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: jones31 on December 10, 2013, 05:48:39 PM
There are lots of people with good reputation on localbitcoins who won't risk their business for one customer.
Also cash and facetoface meeting is the best way around.



Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: hellfrozenow on December 10, 2013, 05:52:30 PM
bloody hell.....


so whats the chances how often has anyone heard of dodgy people on localbitcoins>???

im scared,.....

Very small if you use person with very good reputation doing localbitcoin trades very long.


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: elendorsuma on December 10, 2013, 05:55:56 PM
im trying to trade with this guy parapirate387 i asked him to show me prove of who he is but no response yet .

he only has 13 feedback but is offering a high price £583 for my 0.25btc now all that is going in my head is fraud....

how do i cancel the transaction? im on the screen page.


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: dredd on December 10, 2013, 07:22:46 PM
meet in person and in a public place, you dont want to get stabbed now do you?


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: elendorsuma on December 10, 2013, 08:37:11 PM
the person got back to me saying he cant make the offered price he was nice in the email too looks like im just being a panicking noob


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: Kluge on December 10, 2013, 08:41:14 PM
meet in person and in a public place, you dont want to get stabbed now do you?
Nobody's going to stab you.  ::)

(bring a gun)


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: jones31 on December 10, 2013, 08:42:53 PM
the person got back to me saying he cant make the offered price he was nice in the email too looks like im just being a panicking noob

You can get some feedback here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86012.0
But most of the latest post are not encouraging at all :(


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: jones31 on December 10, 2013, 08:44:00 PM
meet in person and in a public place, you dont want to get stabbed now do you?
Nobody's going to stab you.  ::)

(bring a gun)

Is that advice so he can get both shot and stabbed :)?


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: mindfulmojo on December 10, 2013, 08:51:47 PM

I always make sure I tell them that I have snipers on a nearby roof.

Just get a buddy with a laser pointer, like in Breaking Bad.  ;D


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: elendorsuma on December 10, 2013, 09:00:12 PM
the person got back to me saying he cant make the offered price he was nice in the email too looks like im just being a panicking noob

You can get some feedback here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86012.0
But most of the latest post are not encouraging at all :(

it doesnt load whats not encouraging?


Title: Re: stolen account used to pay for bitcoin concern?
Post by: jones31 on December 10, 2013, 09:04:01 PM
the person got back to me saying he cant make the offered price he was nice in the email too looks like im just being a panicking noob

You can get some feedback here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86012.0
But most of the latest post are not encouraging at all :(

it doesnt load whats not encouraging?

How can it not load , it's on the same forum ;?
It's the special thread about localbitcoins  in the market place section.