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Title: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: yatsey87 on December 20, 2013, 06:44:52 PM
http://techcrunch.com/2013/12/20/alleged-top-moderator-of-silk-road-2-forums-arrested-in-ireland/

Looks like at least three moderators have been busted including Libertas in Ireland.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: beetcoin on December 20, 2013, 06:57:59 PM
wow, that didn't last very long. what can they charge those guys with, if all that can be linked to them is that they moderate the SR forums?


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: yatsey87 on December 20, 2013, 07:00:46 PM
wow, that didn't last very long.

It's still up and running apparently. Maybe there was a vulnerability in the forum software or something.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: hilariousandco on December 20, 2013, 07:14:03 PM
wow, that didn't last very long.

It's still up and running apparently. Maybe there was a vulnerability in the forum software or something.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/12/20/at-least-two-moderators-of-the-silk-road-2-0-drug-site-forums-arrested/

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Guys I was arrested yesterday and out on bond now. But something is fucked! I know I’m risking more warning you guys and my attorney doesn’t even want me on the internet but you guys need to know this. When I was in the interview room they showed me all sorts of shit that they should not know or have access to including conversations I’ve had with buyers and even [the Silk Road 2.0 administrator known as the Dread Pirate Roberts]. I don’t fucking understand.. and when I was in there I was at a loss for words. Something is definitely wrong and they have the ability to see things on here only mods or admins should like [bitcoin] transfers and a dispute I had.

Maybe they gained access by exploiting the forum avatars like on here haha. Is is interesting to find out how they busted them or got that info. Bet a lot of people are shitting bricks over there right now  :D.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: yatsey87 on December 20, 2013, 07:27:08 PM
wow, that didn't last very long.

It's still up and running apparently. Maybe there was a vulnerability in the forum software or something.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/12/20/at-least-two-moderators-of-the-silk-road-2-0-drug-site-forums-arrested/

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Guys I was arrested yesterday and out on bond now. But something is fucked! I know I’m risking more warning you guys and my attorney doesn’t even want me on the internet but you guys need to know this. When I was in the interview room they showed me all sorts of shit that they should not know or have access to including conversations I’ve had with buyers and even [the Silk Road 2.0 administrator known as the Dread Pirate Roberts]. I don’t fucking understand.. and when I was in there I was at a loss for words. Something is definitely wrong and they have the ability to see things on here only mods or admins should like [bitcoin] transfers and a dispute I had.

Maybe they gained access by exploiting the forum avatars like on here haha. Is is interesting to find out how they busted them or got that info. Bet a lot of people are shitting bricks over there right now  :D.

Libertas was on the old SR so maybe they already had some info on him.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: dopey on December 20, 2013, 07:33:58 PM
Shit, what another massive blow to the anonymity world.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: beetcoin on December 20, 2013, 07:38:48 PM
it's funny how SR 2.0 gets cracked down, and it barely makes the bitcoin news cycle these days.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: Ecurb123 on December 20, 2013, 07:43:28 PM
Yes this a real shame, but it just shows there is still a lot of work to do in the area of internet freedom.  


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: beetcoin on December 20, 2013, 07:44:49 PM
Yes this a real shame, but it just shows there is still a lot of work to do in the area of internet freedom.  

yeah, if you want silkroad to succeed, you have to hire the services of an organized crime syndicate.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: yatsey87 on December 20, 2013, 08:36:28 PM
it's funny how SR 2.0 gets cracked down, and it barely makes the bitcoin news cycle these days.

I was suprised there was no thread about it already.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: Lethn on December 20, 2013, 08:40:16 PM
It's because it would directly contradict all their celebrations about the first silk road being taken out and 'ending' illegal operations in Bitcoin etc. you guys forget how carefully controlled the media is, by supporting Bitcoin you indirectly become an enemy of the Federal Reserve especially if you're doing something illegal and these guys are a lot more careful than the U.S government ever are.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: Frost000 on December 20, 2013, 09:37:15 PM
I was never a member of Silk Road myself, but wouldn't members (and especially mods) want to stay away from any iteration of the official Silk Road? Wouldn't they want to jump ship and participate on a or many new sites that were built as competitors (and I guess replacements) to Silk Road?


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: hilariousandco on December 21, 2013, 10:33:30 AM
I was never a member of Silk Road myself, but wouldn't members (and especially mods) want to stay away from any iteration of the official Silk Road? Wouldn't they want to jump ship and participate on a or many new sites that were built as competitors (and I guess replacements) to Silk Road?

Why? Silk Road has the rep... it's essentially a brand now. Plus, it takes a lot of time for people to trust these other markets that spring up. People were even paranoid about the new SR being a honeypot, but I'd probably have more trust in a new incarnation of SR than a brand new site coming out of nowhere.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 21, 2013, 02:00:56 PM
What about this?

http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/princess.jpg?w=640&h=133

Sometimes I really doubt for whom these law enforcement agencies are working for. I think the Mexican drug smugglers are funding them, as their business have been hit hard by SR 2.0 and other online black markets.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: AirFlame on December 21, 2013, 02:19:36 PM
Well Satoshi Nakamoto did not think of that when he was creating his project :P Or maybe he/she wanted to do it this way :)


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: Holdaaja on December 21, 2013, 02:28:25 PM
Well Satoshi Nakamoto did not think of that when he was creating his project :P Or maybe he/she wanted to do it this way :)

Or maybe Satoshi is DPR, we can't know ;D


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: hilariousandco on December 21, 2013, 02:34:59 PM
Well Satoshi Nakamoto did not think of that when he was creating his project :P Or maybe he/she wanted to do it this way :)

Well I'm sure he was smart enough to invision it. If you're going to create a currency and hope for it to be successful, then people are going to use it for all sorts of things good and bad. He did originally mention seeing it possibly becoming useful to libertarians.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: Frost000 on December 21, 2013, 03:02:24 PM
Well Satoshi Nakamoto did not think of that when he was creating his project :P Or maybe he/she wanted to do it this way :)

Or maybe Satoshi is DPR, we can't know ;D

After reading a bunch of articles about DPR and how he carried himself (and how he finally got caught), I can easily confirm that he's not Satoshi. Not even by a long shot...


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 21, 2013, 03:09:58 PM
Or maybe Satoshi is DPR, we can't know ;D

That is a ridiculous argument, which has been dealt with before. Satoshi was an intelligent programmer and statistician. DPR was more or less intelligent, but he has no background in statistics and economics.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: AirFlame on December 21, 2013, 03:13:38 PM
Well Satoshi Nakamoto did not think of that when he was creating his project :P Or maybe he/she wanted to do it this way :)

Or maybe Satoshi is DPR, we can't know ;D

Yea one way or another i want to make BTC at market. If all this BTC is not connected to any banks or gov i will be happy to buy more BTC !


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: Speaker on December 21, 2013, 08:02:47 PM
I knew Silk Road 2.0 was some sort of honey pot.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: hilariousandco on December 21, 2013, 08:07:31 PM
I knew Silk Road 2.0 was some sort of honey pot.

Except it's probably not. SR is fine, they just seem to have busted people moderators via the forum, which is on a different server and not as secure. Pretty sure setting up a honeypot like a new SR site would be entrapment, and I don't see why they'd go to the fuss of creating a new site when they had already gained access to the old one. Would've been easier to just keep that running and pick people off gradually.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: beetcoin on December 21, 2013, 09:11:50 PM
I knew Silk Road 2.0 was some sort of honey pot.

you are probably thinking of the sheep marketplace.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: hilariousandco on December 21, 2013, 09:22:29 PM
I knew Silk Road 2.0 was some sort of honey pot.

you are probably thinking of the sheep marketplace.

I don't think that was a honeypot either, but the owner apparently scammed everyone in a longcon.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: bryant.coleman on December 22, 2013, 02:13:30 PM
I knew Silk Road 2.0 was some sort of honey pot.

you are probably thinking of the sheep marketplace.

Sheep Marketplace was definitely not a honeypot. Instead it was being run by a scammer. On the other hand, we have enough proof to believe that SR 2.0 was a honeypot.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: hilariousandco on December 22, 2013, 07:26:21 PM
I knew Silk Road 2.0 was some sort of honey pot.

you are probably thinking of the sheep marketplace.

Sheep Marketplace was definitely not a honeypot. Instead it was being run by a scammer. On the other hand, we have enough proof to believe that SR 2.0 was a honeypot.

What proof is that?


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: beetcoin on December 22, 2013, 07:41:37 PM
i guess the definition of honeypot is different from what i thought it was.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: hilariousandco on December 22, 2013, 07:52:35 PM
i guess the definition of honeypot is different from what i thought it was.

Nope, I’m afraid to tell you it's not a pot full of honey :D. What did you think it was?


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: beetcoin on December 22, 2013, 07:55:56 PM
scammers making a business seem legitimate so that more and more people would join. once they reach what they believe their peak is, they run off with the money.

apparently it's supposed to mean LE or a group of people trying to trap you, but not necessarily a scam.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: hilariousandco on December 22, 2013, 08:10:11 PM
scammers making a business seem legitimate so that more and more people would join. once they reach what they believe their peak is, they run off with the money.

apparently it's supposed to mean LE or a group of people trying to trap you, but not necessarily a scam.

Ah, yeah, the latter is correct. But I'm also sure that would be entrapment. The Feds had unnoticed access to the initial SR site, so I don't understand why they wouldn't've just kept that running and picked off DPR later and/or installed their own DPR.


Title: Re: Several Silk Road moderators arrested by FBI
Post by: ZooKeeper74 on December 23, 2013, 06:39:45 AM
SR= FBI.

and Satoshi=Obama