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Are we going to continue endlessly with this stupid drama until the whole spirit behind Bitcoin is gone?
It is going nowhere.
If we continue inflating the scandal, it is going to end up in the media, and that's in nobody's interest.

So let's stop here please and go back to our business.

Agree.

Did I miss something?

Stop Bitcoin?

Yes, it was all a big joke in reality.  :o ;)

This  ::)

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That's all folks!
Did you like the scenario?
I think I did particurly well with the characters of Satoshi, Gavin and Bruce, but maybe I put a bit too much twists and turns to the plot.
The most difficult part was to package a large chunk of code that would compile and be too complex for anyone to understand before the scenario finish to unfold.

Anyway, thanks for participating to this internet-reality.
You'll receive coupons from our sponsor Groupon in compensation of the Bitcoin you thought you had mined.

I agree, we should take a page out of the Catholic Church's book and sweep this scandal under the rug, while aloowing the continued planning of Bitcoin trips and conferences to a city known for the very crime the scandal is about.

Ignoring potential crimes is the best way to avoid fallout from them.

They need to just go ahead and plan the conference for Vegas...or Chicago!

Central to the libertarian ideal is censorship of anything that I don't agree with, including people questioning my decision making when it comes to where a conference is to be held and the reasons for holding it at said place.

If you really don't know what this is about, consider yourself lucky, and leave it at that.

If you still want to find out, it won't take much effort to figure out.

Uh...yeah. This...

Wtf is going on?

Don't worry, it is already way past the point where it can be ignored by the community.
But so far, it is still not at the point where it will be picked by the press.
It is still just an affair of one guy related to Bitcoin, and not a problem for Bitcoin.
Now if we continue making such a fuss about this issue, it will go public.

So let's calm down and remember why we are here.

The scandal has unfolded, charges have been clearly stated, evidence has been published, and the defendant hasn't judged necessary to address it so far.
That is his choice and his problem, and how people will choose to deal with him in the future is their choice and their problem.
What else do you guys want? His head on a plate? Is it worth putting at risk the reputation of Bitcoin and our collective USD 60M+ of market capitalization?

How did his party react when Bill Clinton was involved in a sex scandal?
How did the IMF react when Dominique Strausskahn was charged of sexual abuse?
Politicians may be responsible for the demise of our economy, but they are wise enough not to saw the branch on which they sit.

Wistleblowing about one's misdoing does not mean we must continue going round in circles until self destruction.
I hope that was clear.

On a side note, don't forget that Bitcoin has or will have ennemies that would go to great length to bring it into disrepute without getting their hands dirty.
Such attacks could come anytime and take any form.
They could be complete setups of simply piggy backing on a base of truth.
Remember, the fake personae (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/black-ops-how-hbgary-wrote-backdoors-and-rootkits-for-the-government.ars/4) used by HB Gary on behalf of public agencies to manipulate the public opinion.

I am not saying that Bruce has fallen pray of such manipulation. He has acknowledged some of the claims.
But if I was working as a social engineer for the government, that's the time I would choose to kick in and give the extra push to divide the community, or take over leadership by channelling discontented members to my own forums and events.

This may sound paranoid, but don't forget that if the mind behind Bitcoin has decided to remain anonymous and withdraw from the community, there must be good reasons.

Fuck you with your community talk, you communist. This is the free market! >:(

Now it might be:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3413928&pagenumber=457#post395014987

I had no idea what was going on until about 30 minutes ago.. Wasn't paying attention i guess.

Well, that sure is one way to destroy ones credibility within a community. I'm sure he'll be along any minute to tell us that this is VERY MISLEADING, but the judges ruling speaks for itself.

How anyone would trust Bruce with ANYTHING after this is mind boggling. This community had better do some serious soul searching, because this is the last thing Bitcoin needs. I can see the articles now "Bitcoins biggest proponent is a scam artist" and citing all of this juicy stuff.

How anyone trusted him after MyBitcoin stole everyones' coins after Bruce endorsed them for ages is mind boggling.

I am totally a government agent and not a bored college student who loves the schadenfraude of watching your hilariously dumb libertarian pet project, whose prominent members are among the worst scammers and sociopaths, falling down

>.>
At least give me something from a good site.

Chill out  ;D


Bitcoin has created alot of attention by these "internet people" by which I mean people into things like SOA, ADS, PTC Sites, SPAM and such things.
They exist, nobody likes them they do not innovate and they behave like a swarm of locusts.

But don't mind them, they are just desperate and their desperation has brought the major attention to bitcoin in the first place (gawker). Yes they are the scum of the internets but we need them. Their greedy "I want a major slice of the cake" mentality fails them on the fundamentals of the bitcoin protocol and in the mean time we are getting free publicity  8).

Face palm

You are such a optimistic guy!  :-*

I am thank you, that's why I am here, and likely as are you.  I posted in another thread this statement but it also applies here:

If it was not for a free and open discussion about an emerging crisis, this entire thing may have played out for months, causing massive damage to Bitcoin.  Instead a rapid, focused, and determined investigation was conducted.  It resulted in very serious allegations, most of which is accompanied by solid supporting evidence.

Free speech and open lines of communication are absolutely essential in any crisis, and this is especially true for Bitcoin.

The truth always surfaces at some point.
This is bound to happen, and I agree it is better to settle such affairs promptly than to make it up in denial for ages and try to conceal it until enough of it has leaked naturally.

BUT

There is a handful of people here that are just making a LOT of fuss around this case without helping it in any way. Their claims are a stretch backed by nothing except their own share of darkness. These people's behavior is mere bullying and they cast as much shame on Bitcoin as the case they are decrying.
Please post if you have something new to bring to the case. If you are here just to shout "burn the wicth!", please remember that your ip is logged and that the whole database of this forum could very well end up someday in the public domain. So be ready to be the witch at your turn. Would you have held to your attacks and claims should you have posted here under your real name?

Glad to hear that you are a neutral professional doing that to earn a living.
Imagine what a pathetic human being you would have been if you were indeed a bored college student with no principles, attracted to this affair by the smell of blood, and taking a sadic pleasure into bullying random people on the Internet to forget about your own miserable life.

Don't like censorship on privately owned and operated forums? Start your own. That's the beauty of it. Competing ideologies can exist.

amen

He should try masturbation...

With that much rage, I'm guessing he tried it but failed.