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Title: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: nanaimogold on August 30, 2011, 08:12:31 PM
Oh, the shit just gets deeper and stinkier.


http://mortgagefraudblog.com/perp-walk/item/10674-illinois_foreclosure_rescue_company_fined_and_shut_down

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Bold Funding, Inc. and its owner-operator, Bruce Wagner, were found to have violated Illinois law by falsely promising to secure private funding for loans to save the homes of persons who were in foreclosure for a fee ranging from $300 to $6,670.

...

In Civil Court on April 18, 2006, Judge Julia Nowicki ordered Bold Funding and Bruce Wagner to refund $115,858 in application fees to 74 former customers who never received any funding from the Defendants. Bold Funding and Bruce Wagner were also fined $250,000, and the Defendants were permanently banned from providing any services in Illinois related to residential mortgage loans.

...

probably the largest, most sophisticated foreclosure scam I've ever heard about, before or since then. $116,000 or so in refunds doesn't begin to compensate all of the victims. And now the owner, it seems, fled to another state and is trying to start his own talk show!

http://web.archive.org/web/20040923210936/http://boldfunding.com/

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Bold Funding helps hundreds of people each and every year.  We’ve been proud members of the Better Business Bureau for 12 years, and have attorneys on staff to fight for you, but don’t let one more day slip away…  You need to call us right now!   You do not have to lose your home!   We may be able to help you save your home in as little as 21 business days…  even after the Sheriff Sale… regardless of your credit!  Call now… 1-800-567-8922.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: nanaimogold on August 30, 2011, 08:15:52 PM
misusing those elipses - sort of like rainbow sprinkles on a cupcake - eh scrotum cupper?

You just live a sociaopathic existence, don't you Broocey?


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: bitrebel on August 30, 2011, 08:26:58 PM
You had better hope and be sure it's the same Bruce Wagner or you'll be in for some libel suit here.
Libel and Slander are not victimless crimes.  :o

Where is the evidence it's the same person?


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: JeffK on August 30, 2011, 08:29:02 PM
You had better hope and be sure it's the same Bruce Wagner or you'll be in for some libel suit here.
Libel and Slander are not victimless crimes.  :o

Where is the evidence it's the same person?

Domain: boldfunding.com - Whois History
Cache Date: 2004-08-11
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Server: whois.enom.com
Created: 2003-05-10
Updated:
Expires: 2006-05-10
Reverse Whois: Click on an email address we found in this whois record
to see which other domains the registrant is associated with:
domainreg@jumpline.com bold@mailblocks.com edward@mailblocks.com noc@web1000.com

Registration Service Provided By: Jumpline.com, Inc.
Contact: domainreg@jumpline.com
Visit: http://jumpline.com

Domain name: boldfunding.com

Registrant Contact:
Bold Funding, Inc.
Bold Funding (bold@mailblocks.com)
+1.8005678922
Fax: +1.8003290510
9 E Huron St., Ste. 5000
Chicago, IL 60611
US

Administrative Contact:
Bold Funding, Inc.
Bold Funding (bold@mailblocks.com)
+1.8005678922
Fax: +1.8003290510
9 E Huron St., Ste. 5000
Chicago, IL 60611
US

Technical Contact:
Network Operations Center
Bold Funding (noc@WEB1000.com)
+1.7755887862
Fax: +1.7755887823
PO Box 11898
Zephyr Cove, NV 89448
US

Billing Contact:
Bold Funding, Inc.
Bold Funding (edward@mailblocks.com)
+1.8009132653
Fax: +1.8003290510
9 E Huron St., Ste. 5000
Chicago, IL 60611
US

Status: Active

Name Servers:
ns1.web1000.com
ns2.web1000.com
ns3.web1000.com
ns4.web1000.com

Creation date: 10 May 2003 00:00:00


His manbuddy Edward was in on some of the scams too




edit: Whoops, my posting was from his Nevada mortgage scams, not the Illinois ones. point still stands


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: greyhawk on August 30, 2011, 08:31:33 PM
Where is the evidence it's the same person?

https://i.imgur.com/IokFj.png


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: bitrebel on August 30, 2011, 08:33:05 PM

And where is this from? Where can it be located online?


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: greyhawk on August 30, 2011, 08:34:07 PM

And where is this from? Where can it be located online?


Sorry. Here you go: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=407612&p=5491226#post5491226


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: Longmarch on August 30, 2011, 08:35:22 PM
There's a million Bruce Wagners.  Bold Funding, Inc.'s Bruce L. Wagner is in all probability a completely different person.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: makomk on August 30, 2011, 08:36:45 PM
I think you might be missing the evidence linking Bruce's "bred" nickname to Bold Funding (http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=100), greyhawk.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: Longmarch on August 30, 2011, 08:37:08 PM

And where is this from? Where can it be located online?


Sorry. Here you go: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=407612&p=5491226#post5491226


Not conclusive enough for such an accusation.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: JeffK on August 30, 2011, 08:38:59 PM

And where is this from? Where can it be located online?


Sorry. Here you go: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=407612&p=5491226#post5491226


Not conclusive enough for such an accusation.

He used the same username across forums as that bold funding company - just looked at what was linked.

What do you need? A photo of him holding a sign saying 'I commited Fraud'?

someone from SA should/will be prepping a megapost, expect it later


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: bitrebel on August 30, 2011, 08:39:44 PM
I think you might be missing the evidence linking Bruce's "bred" nickname to Bold Funding (http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=100), greyhawk.

Thanks!

It appears to me now, that Bruce Wagner IS ACTUALLY A FRAUDSTER!

Unless someone can prove otherwise. Where are you now, Bruce?


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: FAtlas on August 30, 2011, 08:40:00 PM
Sorry. Here you go: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=407612&p=5491226#post5491226


Not conclusive enough for such an accusation.
Is it enough to get a guilty conviction in a court of law?  Maybe, maybe not.

Is it enough that people can make a fairly conclusive judgment for themselves?  Yeah, pretty much.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: JeffK on August 30, 2011, 08:40:30 PM
http://www.bbb.org/chicago/business-reviews/financial-services/bold-funding-in-chicago-il-23000452

This Business is not BBB Accredited
Bold Funding, Inc.

Phone: (800) 567-8922
Fax: (800) 329-051040
E. Chicago Ave., #5000, Chicago, IL 60611
brucewagner@mailblocks.com
http://www.boldfunding.com

E: Thread is moving too fast and I missed josh's bit.
Here's another set of numbers for the IL office:
* Telephone: +1 312 951 7960
* Fax: +1 435 603 5552


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 30, 2011, 08:41:00 PM
There's a million Bruce Wagners.  Bold Funding, Inc.'s Bruce L. Wagner is in all probability a completely different person.

See if you folks see what I found funny here: (then copy and paste it)

http://www.bbb.org/chicago/business-reviews/financial-services/bold-funding-in-chicago-il-23000452

Never mind! JeffK has it -- it's the second line.

ROFLMAO: E: Thread is moving too fast and I missed JeffK's bit.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: nanaimogold on August 30, 2011, 08:47:17 PM
You had better hope and be sure it's the same Bruce Wagner or you'll be in for some libel suit here.
Libel and Slander are not victimless crimes.  :o

Where is the evidence it's the same person?

No matter. Any Judge in Canada would look at this and say, Broocie, you did start this by calling Shane a thief. Do you really want to try to prove damages here?

At that point Broocy's lawyer would ask for more cash up front.

And speaking of cash, just where did Bruce get that 25K he had in MBC?

He said something about his friends. Maybe those friends were paying to accompany Brooce around the world to places only notorious for sex tourism where they might pay for sex with boys who are of course all over 18 yrs old.

Hmm, what was that big pile of loot earmarked to pay for brooce? Could the ledger at MBC shed some light on that? Perhasp those
"friends" you speak of owning that loot might tell us why it was there, under your control?

Hmm.



Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: indicasteve on August 30, 2011, 08:50:39 PM
The judge didn't say the word "reprehensible".  That was a quote from the state attorney Richard Devine, not the judge.

Just an observation is all.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: BitcoinBug on August 30, 2011, 08:56:27 PM
I was a bystander most of the time, but I must say these things really look bad. It's not bullet proof hard evidence, but it's good enough for me. Sorry Bruce.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: JeffK on August 30, 2011, 08:57:39 PM
The judge didn't say the word "reprehensible".  That was a quote from the state attorney Richard Devine, not the judge.

Just an observation is all.


Defrauding people out of their homes is reprehensible though, Bruce is a parasite leeching off the actual working class


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: BlockHash on August 30, 2011, 09:00:43 PM
I was a bystander most of the time, but I must say these things really look bad. It's not bullet proof hard evidence, but it's good enough for me. Sorry Bruce.

If it turns out this is the same guy, I wouldn't feel sorry for him but for his victims that trusted him with money that he never intended to use to help them out of a bad spot with their homes.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: Longmarch on August 30, 2011, 09:01:19 PM
Sorry. Here you go: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=407612&p=5491226#post5491226


Not conclusive enough for such an accusation.
Is it enough to get a guilty conviction in a court of law?  Maybe, maybe not.

Is it enough that people can make a fairly conclusive judgment for themselves?  Yeah, pretty much.

I don't think so.  Honestly, I'm neutral on this and I wasn't convinced by the bodybuilding.com link.  Living in Chicago isn't quite enough to link him to Bold Funding, Inc.

The spamcop link is strong though.  I'm satisfied and I want to hear Bruce's side now.





Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: BitCoinMagic on August 30, 2011, 09:07:43 PM
The judge didn't say the word "reprehensible".  That was a quote from the state attorney Richard Devine, not the judge.

Just an observation is all.


Yes, VERY MISLEADING.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: nanaimogold on August 30, 2011, 09:10:08 PM
The judge didn't say the word "reprehensible".  That was a quote from the state attorney Richard Devine, not the judge.

Just an observation is all.


Ah, right you are. My mistake.

BitCoinMagic > Yes, VERY MISLEADING.

Haha - you joker.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: Boussac on August 30, 2011, 09:20:37 PM
This thread does not belong on the bitcoin forum: moderators please see to it ???


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: FlipPro on August 30, 2011, 09:23:34 PM
True this is off topic. It has nothing to do with Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: bitrebel on August 30, 2011, 09:23:49 PM
This thread does not belong on the bitcoin forum: moderators please see to it ???

YES IT DOES! Leave it alone! - It's extremely relevant!


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: FlipPro on August 30, 2011, 09:24:49 PM
This thread does not belong on the bitcoin forum: moderators please see to it ???

YES IT DOES! Leave it alone! - It's extremely relevant!
It has everything to do with Bruce, and nothing to do with BITCOIN.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: bitrebel on August 30, 2011, 09:25:30 PM
True this is off topic. It has nothing to do with Bitcoin.

If Bruce runs the Bitcoin Show, and Bruce is a Scammer and Convicted, yet alone.....this is a good reason to discuss it, vent it, get it behind us and move on. In a few days, this will not be a relevant topic here for discussion, but currently, I see that it is.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: FlipPro on August 30, 2011, 09:26:30 PM
True this is off topic. It has nothing to do with Bitcoin.

If Bruce runs the Bitcoin Show, and Bruce is a Scammer and Convicted, yet alone.....this is a good reason to discuss it, vent it, get it behind us and move on. In a few days, this will not be a relevant topic here for discussion, but currently, I see that it is.
This can be discussed in the OFF TOPIC section, since it has NOTHING to do with Bitcoins...


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: JeffK on August 30, 2011, 09:26:54 PM
True this is off topic. It has nothing to do with Bitcoin.

If Bruce runs the Bitcoin Show, and Bruce is a Scammer and Convicted, yet alone.....this is a good reason to discuss it, vent it, get it behind us and move on. In a few days, this will not be a relevant topic here for discussion, but currently, I see that it is.

Oh hey, someone left a glowing review of the later-to-be-found-scammy business "Bold Funding" years ago. I wonder what the name of this person was...

https://i.imgur.com/UsMIq.png


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: JeffK on August 30, 2011, 09:27:45 PM
True this is off topic. It has nothing to do with Bitcoin.

If Bruce runs the Bitcoin Show, and Bruce is a Scammer and Convicted, yet alone.....this is a good reason to discuss it, vent it, get it behind us and move on. In a few days, this will not be a relevant topic here for discussion, but currently, I see that it is.
This can be discussed in the OFF TOPIC section, since it has NOTHING to do with Bitcoins...

The forefront man in Bitcoin PR has nothing to do with Bitcoins? Stop trying to bury everything Vegetta, you worthless troll.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: bitrebel on August 30, 2011, 09:28:57 PM
True this is off topic. It has nothing to do with Bitcoin.

If Bruce runs the Bitcoin Show, and Bruce is a Scammer and Convicted, yet alone.....this is a good reason to discuss it, vent it, get it behind us and move on. In a few days, this will not be a relevant topic here for discussion, but currently, I see that it is.

Oh hey, someone left a glowing review of the later-to-be-found-scammy business "Bold Funding" years ago. I wonder what the name of this person was...

https://i.imgur.com/UsMIq.png

OM FUCKING GOD!
WOW!!!

Is that a mere coincidence?
Or a REAL Conspiracy?


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: greyhawk on August 30, 2011, 09:46:48 PM
Stop trying to bury everything Vegetta, you worthless troll.

I'm wondering why someone whose webshop has no contact information at all and whose domain registration was done through a proxy site would want discussion on possible scams to be buried...


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: FAtlas on August 30, 2011, 09:51:35 PM
OM FUCKING GOD!
WOW!!!

Is that a mere coincidence?
Or a REAL Conspiracy?

Reposting more from the other thread:

https://i.imgur.com/E9Y9B.png
https://i.imgur.com/RNOvx.png
https://i.imgur.com/RNOvx.png
https://i.imgur.com/vMwDa.png
https://i.imgur.com/I4l7I.png


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: nanaimogold on August 30, 2011, 10:12:34 PM
Pushing these threads into off-topic highlights the fact that at least some of the moderators on this site are complicit in brooce's scam.

If you look at when the most vocal broocy fanbois joined this forum, you can see that they came here together as a group.

They are constantly boosting the brooce or hurling insults and accusations at anyone who questions what they are up to. Twisting other's words, quoting out of context, deleteing posts an otherwise censoring.

Many serious people left this forum last fall because of this. I was forced to come back here recently to defend myself against this allegation that brooce conned into the NY Observer.

But the off topic folder won't stop this discussion and Google will still index it.

Since Brooce was apparently running, state to state, from the victims of his scams, I have to wonder why he left his beloved Thailand? Was he running from there too? I wonder what the Thai police think of bruce? Or perhaps he is Tod Williams when travveling abroad.

And I'm still wondering who paid for those 25K bitcoins that were parked at MBC and what those people were expecting in return. 



Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: nanaimogold on August 30, 2011, 10:48:47 PM
Moar funzies;

http://www.imarketlive.com/USA/biz/bruce-wagner-omnimedia-inc-MTE2NDIwNDU.html
https://www.nanaimogold.com/images/bruce_omni.PNG

http://www.linkedin.com/in/brucewagner
https://www.nanaimogold.com/images/bruce_linkedin.PNG

http://www.bbb.org/chicago/business-reviews/financial-services/bold-funding-in-chicago-il-23000452
https://www.nanaimogold.com/images/bruce_bbb.PNG


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: nanaimogold on August 30, 2011, 10:51:59 PM
brooce shows off his 1337 hax0r skilz

http://mike.brisgeek.com/2009/02/15/an-army-of-retweet-bots/


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An Army of ReTweet-Bots…
Sun 15 Feb 2009

… is better than a band of loyal followers — if you want to get noticed on Twitter.  It looks like someone has built an army of fake Twitter accounts which can re-tweet on command.

Bruce Wagner, a New York City talk-show host and Twitter user, took time out to leave an erudite comment on my previous blog post about TweeterGetter.  Now it is not unexpected that he might have a band of loyal followers.  It is also not unexpected that they might be prompted to re-tweet Bruce’s tweet at the same time or within the same minute as far as anyone can tell.

...


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: bitfreak! on August 30, 2011, 11:03:02 PM
I never trusted you Bruce. Now I have all the proof I need to know you are a f'ing douche.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: Jonathan Ryan Owens on September 01, 2011, 07:04:52 PM
This information makes me sick to my stomach.

Not only is Bruce Wagner guilty of fraud in multiple states, he's also very possibly 'Tom Williams', and even if he isn't, he was aware of the problems with MyBitcoin far before it went offline, and at the very least he accepted money/bitcoin from them to continue advertising what ended up being a total scam.

The entire Bitcoin community needs to cast him out, and expose him as completely as possible. If he's allowed to continue as the face of Bitcoin, there is virtually no chance that Bitcoin will see anything but ultimate death.

Journalists are going to have a field day with this. Awesome.

Bruce, you need to apologize to the community and get out of the way.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: wolftaur on September 02, 2011, 06:50:02 PM
Bruce, you need to apologize to the community and get out of the way.

He didn't exactly apologize and get out, he made this long speech about how this forum is just full of trolls and children and there's no chance of having any real discussions blah blah, and he's going to go make his own Bitcoin forum with himself as a moderator.

In other words, he's just trying to start a place where he can discuss Bitcoin for his own gain (I smell a mybitcoin replacement coming!) and censor anything that makes him look bad.

I seriously hope his NY court case goes into the crapper and a judge throws him in prison for being a complete sack of shit.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: nanaimogold on September 03, 2011, 11:26:41 PM
Sociopaths don't apologise, they rationalise. In the sick mind, there are no moral boundries.

Consider how poorly he covered his tracks. Note how he easily discusses in public the raping of children (who are adults). Or of how he travels from place to place perpetuating the same financial scam even after he has been caught and censured by the courts. He clearly does not have the conscience to determine right from wrong.

What I find to be astonishing is, even after my pointing this out TEN MONTHS AGO, it took until now for the truth to finally sink in to the users here.

We are not finished exorcising this devil yet however. There are some moderators of this board who need removing. Word wankers and twisters are liars who are injecting their own agenda into this forum.

The Paxum discussion illustrates this well. The moderator lied and then closed the thread to prevent rebuttal. Since then he has resorted to attacking my character repeatedly. He is just one of those not suitable to moderate our important discussions.

We need to chase these dishonorable clowns back under the rocks they crawled out from under. This forum is too important to the education of the new users to allow these abusers the ability to skew reality to fit their own diseased paradigm.





Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: BitcoinPorn on September 04, 2011, 12:04:47 AM
This forum is too important to the education of the new users to allow these abusers the ability to skew reality to fit their own diseased paradigm.

It used to be too important.  It is not linked from the official Bitcoin site.  Give it time, other forums will be pulling first rank for "Bitcoin Forums"

I still like a lot of the older users on this forum, keeps me comin' back, but I think the newbies see the other options for Bitcoin communities that are maybe more focused toward the Bitcoin discussion they are looking for.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: quattro on September 05, 2011, 07:42:05 PM
I was a bystander most of the time, but I must say these things really look bad. It's not bullet proof hard evidence, but it's good enough for me. Sorry Bruce.

If it turns out this is the same guy, I wouldn't feel sorry for him but for his victims that trusted him with money that he never intended to use to help them out of a bad spot with their homes.

He already admitted it was him.


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: Mjbmonetarymetals on September 05, 2011, 09:39:25 PM
http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab22/1973mb1973/dc7c3ab8.jpg


Title: Re: Bruce Wagner - "reprehensible" fraudster according to Cook County Judge
Post by: btcmerchant on September 05, 2011, 09:44:46 PM
^^^ lol very nice, especially for the "Lakeview Terrace" movie credits at the bottom.