Title: Unocoin is back Post by: Transhuman32 on January 07, 2014, 02:37:10 PM Good news.Just got this http://www.coindesk.com/indian-bitcoin-exchange-unocoin-back-online-shutdown/
Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: subvolatil on January 07, 2014, 03:16:58 PM Well still would not use that service. Those guys just dont know what business ethics are. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: subvolatil on January 07, 2014, 03:20:52 PM and by the way stop using sock puppet accounts i can see you have been flooding the forums with your crap . even on reddit is the same words. Either be a part of the community or stay the hell out . this type of unethical crap wont work. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: dishwara on January 07, 2014, 03:28:12 PM Thanks very much for posting officially in Bitcoin discussion forum, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=401742.0 instead of Indian sub forum.
Also, the people buying in this site is going to be from outside India? Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: subvolatil on January 07, 2014, 03:49:17 PM Forgot to mention what these guys did earlier ;
Quote Has Coinmonk kicked off their site? yeah, check out http://unocoin.com/ I tried to register, but no mail was sent to me. Looks like coin monk is Falsely advertising Benson Samuel name to make a buck. What a bunch of scam artist. Would not trust them . Lemme talk to em first.. I just had to do this. Regardless if they were just doing a trial. Putting up a testimonial without that person actually a being able to signup for that service. Its cold. Way to cold. https://i.imgur.com/F5cmEgW.png Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: Transhuman32 on January 07, 2014, 04:32:00 PM and by the way stop using sock puppet accounts i can see you have been flooding the forums with your crap . even on reddit is the same words. Either be a part of the community or stay the hell out . this type of unethical crap wont work. I think some misunderstanding here,I am in no way connected to Unocooin.Just got excited by the news and decided to share it here. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: Benson Samuel on January 07, 2014, 05:11:12 PM Is there any investigation on the people who had sent in their KYC previously?
Is this a honeypot for officials? Would be good to protect customers as well with some of these doubts cleared before reopening. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: subvolatil on January 07, 2014, 10:43:56 PM Is there any investigation on the people who had sent in their KYC previously? Is this a honeypot for officials? Would be good to protect customers as well with some of these doubts cleared before reopening. This exchange can do a better job. www.bitquick.in Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: Neo.op on January 08, 2014, 06:53:56 AM Is there any investigation on the people who had sent in their KYC previously? My guess is he offered to provide information on the end customers. And he did make this point in his thread. To quote:Is this a honeypot for officials? Would be good to protect customers as well with some of these doubts cleared before reopening. i also had to explain them how the bitcoin becomes tracable and how they can atleast regulate it at entry and exit points which happens at exchanges. I cant say if this will act as a honeypot or not but if btc is made illegal in the future, people dealing here will be in hot water.I had to type the answers for their questions and i had to sign for the printouts. They took some of the bitcoin related documents i had along with KYC documents i have collected from various Unocoin.com customers in a DVD which they made sure it is readable in their laptop. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: Fernandez on January 08, 2014, 09:56:41 AM Forgot to mention what these guys did earlier ; Quote Has Coinmonk kicked off their site? yeah, check out http://unocoin.com/ I tried to register, but no mail was sent to me. Looks like coin monk is Falsely advertising Benson Samuel name to make a buck. What a bunch of scam artist. Would not trust them . Lemme talk to em first.. I just had to do this. Regardless if they were just doing a trial. Putting up a testimonial without that person actually a being able to signup for that service. Its cold. Way to cold. https://i.imgur.com/F5cmEgW.png That is very poor. Thanks for pointing it out. I will definitely stay out of it. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: aakashkumar on January 08, 2014, 10:09:19 AM What will happen If i trade Bitcoin On Unocoin ?
Did they send ED to My House ? :o Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: Benson Samuel on January 08, 2014, 10:10:17 AM What will happen If i trade Bitcoin On Unocoin ? Did they send ED to My House ? :o Lol, doubt if small transactions will interest the ED. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: dashingriddler on January 09, 2014, 03:20:50 AM Is there any investigation on the people who had sent in their KYC previously? I asked the same question to official, and they verbally said as the total volume is very low - they wont go in dept investigations. But as of now they just know more people who are interested in bitcoins i would say.Is this a honeypot for officials? Would be good to protect customers as well with some of these doubts cleared before reopening. All customers were informed that the KYC docs were collected by IRS in an email. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: Benson Samuel on January 09, 2014, 04:36:34 AM Is there any investigation on the people who had sent in their KYC previously? I asked the same question to official, and they verbally said as the total volume is very low - they wont go in dept investigations. But as of now they just know more people who are interested in bitcoins i would say.Is this a honeypot for officials? Would be good to protect customers as well with some of these doubts cleared before reopening. All customers were informed that the KYC docs were collected by IRS in an email. So, it is a honeypot of sorts. Can't you go hostile and encrypt/ salt data and refuse to divulge? :D Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: dashingriddler on January 09, 2014, 04:41:59 AM You are crazy or what? haha
I suggested the IRS guys to look into an option of collecting info about amount of bitcoins and other crypto coins the tax payers are holding - similar to how people declare their assets and securities. i said this would help them to get some stats atleast to take subsequent steps. Is there any investigation on the people who had sent in their KYC previously? I asked the same question to official, and they verbally said as the total volume is very low - they wont go in dept investigations. But as of now they just know more people who are interested in bitcoins i would say.Is this a honeypot for officials? Would be good to protect customers as well with some of these doubts cleared before reopening. All customers were informed that the KYC docs were collected by IRS in an email. So, it is a honeypot of sorts. Can't you go hostile and encrypt/ salt data and refuse to divulge? :D Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: Benson Samuel on January 09, 2014, 04:44:11 AM You are crazy or what? haha I suggested the IRS guys to look into an option of collecting info about amount of bitcoins and other crypto coins the tax payers are holding - similar to how people declare their assets and securities. i said this would help them to get some stats atleast to take subsequent steps. Is there any investigation on the people who had sent in their KYC previously? I asked the same question to official, and they verbally said as the total volume is very low - they wont go in dept investigations. But as of now they just know more people who are interested in bitcoins i would say.Is this a honeypot for officials? Would be good to protect customers as well with some of these doubts cleared before reopening. All customers were informed that the KYC docs were collected by IRS in an email. So, it is a honeypot of sorts. Can't you go hostile and encrypt/ salt data and refuse to divulge? :D Sigh, so I have to declare my 400 Satoshi fortune eh?? Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: devansh1991 on January 09, 2014, 08:21:57 PM I I cant say if this will act as a honeypot or not but if btc is made illegal in the future, people dealing here will be in hot water.Well none of the public gay figures have been prosecuted after the gay sex ban !! Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: Benson Samuel on January 10, 2014, 04:46:15 AM I I cant say if this will act as a honeypot or not but if btc is made illegal in the future, people dealing here will be in hot water.Well none of the public gay figures have been prosecuted after the gay sex ban !! Thats because they have not had gay sex in public after the ban. :) Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: Neo.op on January 10, 2014, 05:35:30 AM I I cant say if this will act as a honeypot or not but if btc is made illegal in the future, people dealing here will be in hot water.Well none of the public gay figures have been prosecuted after the gay sex ban !! Lets see: 1. Gays have much wider support than btc (400 reported users on buysellbtc to millions of gays) 2. Gays have nothing to do with money, laundering schemes and hawala. This is a much graver offence than "gays", specially when you can't fund terrorism with gayness. 3. You don't have an agency dedicated to single minded motivation of protecting sex laws (read ED) 4. Gays don't call an international conferences and boast about having 10-20 partners each attracting unwanted and wrong kind of attention. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: thenoblebot on January 10, 2014, 11:37:28 AM Lol dont know where this thread will end up
Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: RFDZ on January 10, 2014, 01:22:37 PM Is there any investigation on the people who had sent in their KYC previously? I asked the same question to official, and they verbally said as the total volume is very low - they wont go in dept investigations. But as of now they just know more people who are interested in bitcoins i would say.Is this a honeypot for officials? Would be good to protect customers as well with some of these doubts cleared before reopening. All customers were informed that the KYC docs were collected by IRS in an email. So this implies that as the volume gets high, they will get into investigation? Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: BitCoinDream on January 10, 2014, 03:15:06 PM I I cant say if this will act as a honeypot or not but if btc is made illegal in the future, people dealing here will be in hot water.Well none of the public gay figures have been prosecuted after the gay sex ban !! Lets see: 1. Gays have much wider support than btc (400 reported users on buysellbtc to millions of gays) 2. Gays have nothing to do with money, laundering schemes and hawala. This is a much graver offence than "gays", specially when you can't fund terrorism with gayness. 3. You don't have an agency dedicated to single minded motivation of protecting sex laws (read ED) 4. Gays don't call an international conferences and boast about having 10-20 partners each attracting unwanted and wrong kind of attention. LMFAO Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: devansh1991 on January 10, 2014, 03:15:31 PM I I cant say if this will act as a honeypot or not but if btc is made illegal in the future, people dealing here will be in hot water.Well none of the public gay figures have been prosecuted after the gay sex ban !! Thats because they have not had gay sex in public after the ban. :) The point that I am trying to make is that you cannot be held guilty for an act committed in the past when it was legal but has now been declared a punishable offence. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: Benson Samuel on January 10, 2014, 03:28:48 PM I I cant say if this will act as a honeypot or not but if btc is made illegal in the future, people dealing here will be in hot water.Well none of the public gay figures have been prosecuted after the gay sex ban !! Thats because they have not had gay sex in public after the ban. :) The point that I am trying to make is that you cannot be held guilty for an act committed in the past when it was legal but has now been declared a punishable offence. There was a recent case where a bank was fined and held guilty for laws that were not in place when they mucked up. Not sure which one. If someone does, please do postit. But I agree. You cannot really be held that easily with an act committed in the past. The problem lies when there is no regulation/ definition and various other laws may get breached in between. And no clarity has yet been provided as to what those laws may be, Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: G K G on January 11, 2014, 01:49:24 AM Is there any investigation on the people who had sent in their KYC previously? Is this a honeypot for officials? Would be good to protect customers as well with some of these doubts cleared before reopening. This exchange can do a better job. www.bitquick.in Ya that looks OK. But very little sell orders with very little BTC. Very safe for buyers (don't need to deposit INR to the website and no need to provide your personal details). but selllers will have to provide their bank details. If their US website is really theirs then i totally trust them. Till i know that, i will have to wait for some real trade traffic to trust them. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: subvolatil on January 11, 2014, 02:07:49 AM Is there any investigation on the people who had sent in their KYC previously? Is this a honeypot for officials? Would be good to protect customers as well with some of these doubts cleared before reopening. This exchange can do a better job. www.bitquick.in Ya that looks OK. But very little sell orders with very little BTC. Very safe for buyers (don't need to deposit INR to the website and no need to provide your personal details). but selllers will have to provide their bank details. If their US website is really theirs then i totally trust them. Till i know that, i will have to wait for some real trade traffic to trust them. Yup the US website is theirs, you can find the Indian website link on their US website. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: G K G on January 11, 2014, 02:24:10 AM Is there any investigation on the people who had sent in their KYC previously? Is this a honeypot for officials? Would be good to protect customers as well with some of these doubts cleared before reopening. This exchange can do a better job. www.bitquick.in Ya that looks OK. But very little sell orders with very little BTC. Very safe for buyers (don't need to deposit INR to the website and no need to provide your personal details). but selllers will have to provide their bank details. If their US website is really theirs then i totally trust them. Till i know that, i will have to wait for some real trade traffic to trust them. Yup the US website is theirs, you can find the Indian website link on their US website. Then that is perfect. Maybe i'll sell some soon for a start. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: subvolatil on January 11, 2014, 02:38:46 AM Is there any investigation on the people who had sent in their KYC previously? Is this a honeypot for officials? Would be good to protect customers as well with some of these doubts cleared before reopening. This exchange can do a better job. www.bitquick.in Ya that looks OK. But very little sell orders with very little BTC. Very safe for buyers (don't need to deposit INR to the website and no need to provide your personal details). but selllers will have to provide their bank details. If their US website is really theirs then i totally trust them. Till i know that, i will have to wait for some real trade traffic to trust them. Yup the US website is theirs, you can find the Indian website link on their US website. Then that is perfect. Maybe i'll sell some soon for a start. cool let me know what their service is like. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: Neo.op on January 11, 2014, 08:53:07 AM I I cant say if this will act as a honeypot or not but if btc is made illegal in the future, people dealing here will be in hot water.Well none of the public gay figures have been prosecuted after the gay sex ban !! Thats because they have not had gay sex in public after the ban. :) The point that I am trying to make is that you cannot be held guilty for an act committed in the past when it was legal but has now been declared a punishable offence.[/u] Now read this example: http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-04-13/news/31337558_1_tax-sale-tax-avoidance-retroactive-legislation There was a retrospective law being applied to tax Vodafone. Now for the word "in hot waters". http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/in+hot+water "in a difficult situation in which you are likely to be punished" (and not punished as you interpreted). Now seeing that, unocoins has taken the position of reporting on its customers activities. If there is a law applied later by RBI/Central government, retroactive or not, people will be put in difficult situation and their finances analysed in detail. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: subvolatil on January 11, 2014, 09:18:47 AM Well this should be a interesting muck ED has put in.
http://translate.google.co.in/translate?hl=en&sl=gu&u=http://www.gujaratsamachar.com/index.php/articles/display_article/indian-share-market-company-bit-coins&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dindian%2Bshare%2Bmarket%2Bcompany%2Bbit%2Bcoins%2Bgujaratsamachar.com%26espv%3D210%26es_sm%3D93 (http://translate.google.co.in/translate?hl=en&sl=gu&u=http://www.gujaratsamachar.com/index.php/articles/display_article/indian-share-market-company-bit-coins&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dindian%2Bshare%2Bmarket%2Bcompany%2Bbit%2Bcoins%2Bgujaratsamachar.com%26espv%3D210%26es_sm%3D93) Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: dishwara on January 11, 2014, 09:29:52 AM Well this should be a interesting muck ED has put in. The article saying Bitcoin illegal in India?http://translate.google.co.in/translate?hl=en&sl=gu&u=http://www.gujaratsamachar.com/index.php/articles/display_article/indian-share-market-company-bit-coins&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dindian%2Bshare%2Bmarket%2Bcompany%2Bbit%2Bcoins%2Bgujaratsamachar.com%26espv%3D210%26es_sm%3D93 (http://translate.google.co.in/translate?hl=en&sl=gu&u=http://www.gujaratsamachar.com/index.php/articles/display_article/indian-share-market-company-bit-coins&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dindian%2Bshare%2Bmarket%2Bcompany%2Bbit%2Bcoins%2Bgujaratsamachar.com%26espv%3D210%26es_sm%3D93) I dont understand the conversion from Gujarati to English correctly Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: dashingriddler on January 20, 2014, 03:21:44 AM Is there any investigation on the people who had sent in their KYC previously? I asked the same question to official, and they verbally said as the total volume is very low - they wont go in dept investigations. But as of now they just know more people who are interested in bitcoins i would say.Is this a honeypot for officials? Would be good to protect customers as well with some of these doubts cleared before reopening. All customers were informed that the KYC docs were collected by IRS in an email. So this implies that as the volume gets high, they will get into investigation? As far as i know, if your bank account and bitcoins are clean, you should not be bothered. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: G K G on January 23, 2014, 09:04:18 AM so i registered with unocoin today. what is this BAI donation?
already the fee is high, and with this donation added it's 4%. If it is a donation, it must be voluntary not mandatory. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: thenoblebot on January 23, 2014, 10:10:07 AM so i registered with unocoin today. what is this BAI donation? already the fee is high, and with this donation added it's 4%. If it is a donation, it must be voluntary not mandatory. BAI = Bitcoin Alliance of India I do not think they represent the BTC community as a whole though , most certainly not from my perspective. In fact I found their first statement to be quite annoying. And yeah , donations **MUST NOT** be mandatory. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: subvolatil on January 23, 2014, 03:20:11 PM so i registered with unocoin today. what is this BAI donation? already the fee is high, and with this donation added it's 4%. If it is a donation, it must be voluntary not mandatory. BAI = Bitcoin Alliance of India I do not think they represent the BTC community as a whole though , most certainly not from my perspective. In fact I found their first statement to be quite annoying. And yeah , donations **MUST NOT** be mandatory. This is what i have been saying for a very long time, they are not a part of the community they never took part in the community, and they have never looked to benefit the community. they are a Business coalition they will only answer to profit margins. Any one can register a non-profit and give it a name, does not mean they do good. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: G K G on January 23, 2014, 03:56:09 PM so i registered with unocoin today. what is this BAI donation? already the fee is high, and with this donation added it's 4%. If it is a donation, it must be voluntary not mandatory. BAI = Bitcoin Alliance of India I do not think they represent the BTC community as a whole though , most certainly not from my perspective. In fact I found their first statement to be quite annoying. And yeah , donations **MUST NOT** be mandatory. This is what i have been saying for a very long time, they are not a part of the community they never took part in the community, and they have never looked to benefit the community. they are a Business coalition they will only answer to profit margins. Any one can register a non-profit and give it a name, does not mean they do good. Maybe we should listen to you. I'll stick to localbitcoins till bitquick.in picks some volume. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: subvolatil on January 23, 2014, 04:18:10 PM so i registered with unocoin today. what is this BAI donation? already the fee is high, and with this donation added it's 4%. If it is a donation, it must be voluntary not mandatory. BAI = Bitcoin Alliance of India I do not think they represent the BTC community as a whole though , most certainly not from my perspective. In fact I found their first statement to be quite annoying. And yeah , donations **MUST NOT** be mandatory. This is what i have been saying for a very long time, they are not a part of the community they never took part in the community, and they have never looked to benefit the community. they are a Business coalition they will only answer to profit margins. Any one can register a non-profit and give it a name, does not mean they do good. Maybe we should listen to you. I'll stick to localbitcoins till bitquick.in picks some volume. Even the forum market place is a good option, and there is another marketplace on the IRC called #bitcoin-otc it does have good volumes there. uses the gribble bot. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: G K G on January 23, 2014, 04:38:05 PM so i registered with unocoin today. what is this BAI donation? already the fee is high, and with this donation added it's 4%. If it is a donation, it must be voluntary not mandatory. BAI = Bitcoin Alliance of India I do not think they represent the BTC community as a whole though , most certainly not from my perspective. In fact I found their first statement to be quite annoying. And yeah , donations **MUST NOT** be mandatory. This is what i have been saying for a very long time, they are not a part of the community they never took part in the community, and they have never looked to benefit the community. they are a Business coalition they will only answer to profit margins. Any one can register a non-profit and give it a name, does not mean they do good. Maybe we should listen to you. I'll stick to localbitcoins till bitquick.in picks some volume. Even the forum market place is a good option, and there is another marketplace on the IRC called #bitcoin-otc it does have good volumes there. uses the gribble bot. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: Efelts01 on July 27, 2014, 10:40:51 PM Scam
Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: maurya78 on July 28, 2014, 02:42:57 AM Why do you think it is a scam?
Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: buysellbitcoin on July 28, 2014, 04:17:16 AM Scam Care to elaborate. People put their real time, efforts in building reputation in this business and it should not be tarnished with such vague statements. In fact, just saying scam to a reputed business will not get you friends here, mate. Regards Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: Benson Samuel on July 28, 2014, 04:22:23 AM Scam Care to elaborate. People put their real time, efforts in building reputation in this business and it should not be tarnished with such vague statements. In fact, just saying scam to a reputed business will not get you friends here, mate. Regards Looks like a troll post. Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: subvolatil on July 28, 2014, 04:57:06 AM Scam Care to elaborate. People put their real time, efforts in building reputation in this business and it should not be tarnished with such vague statements. In fact, just saying scam to a reputed business will not get you friends here, mate. Regards Looks like a troll post. A really bad troll. atleast give out reasons why, Efelts01 said such a thing???? Title: Re: Unocoin is back Post by: BitCoinDream on July 28, 2014, 08:31:49 AM Scam Care to elaborate. People put their real time, efforts in building reputation in this business and it should not be tarnished with such vague statements. In fact, just saying scam to a reputed business will not get you friends here, mate. Regards Looks like a troll post. A really bad troll. atleast give out reasons why, Efelts01 said such a thing???? Looking at his post history, it seems that he posts only in alt coin section. Suddenly changed his posting style for a change with no real reason. An obvious troll. No analysis required. :) |