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Title: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: MaGNeT on September 02, 2011, 06:20:32 AM
Did you hear the rumor? He drinks Pepsi...

Now we better stop this witch-hunt?


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: The_Duke on September 02, 2011, 06:29:17 AM
Oh look, another guy who is so worried his wallet.dat might drop in value that he'd rather defend a proven fraudster and hide all of it than having the truth be known.

A witch-hunt indicates that a mob of people is trying to burn an innocent person. Bruce Wagner is not an innocent person. At least not according to a court of law.

Edit: Oh, and mega-lawl at you joining in ANY possible fork there is. If I set up DukeCoin, you will probably be the first to fall for it. Maybe this means you are so naive you still really think Bruce is a "good guy"?


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: julz on September 02, 2011, 06:31:31 AM
Which witch hunt would that be?

The one which really is a witch hunt (pattaya related), or the completely valid exposure of past business failings/misdeeds (Bold Finance)?



Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: wolftaur on September 02, 2011, 06:32:24 AM
http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/9715848.jpg


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: ThomasV on September 02, 2011, 06:32:51 AM
A witch-hunt indicates that a mob of people is trying to burn an innocent person. Bruce Wagner is not an innocent person. At least not according to a court of law.
a mob of people is not a court of law


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: The_Duke on September 02, 2011, 06:34:05 AM
A witch-hunt indicates that a mob of people is trying to burn an innocent person. Bruce Wagner is not an innocent person. At least not according to a court of law.
a mob of people is not a court of law

I guess you missed all the posts that showed the real evidence where a REAL COURT OF LAW has found him guilty?

Jesus christ, am I the only one who is slightly shocked that there's so many fanatics (or people who are just scared their precious coins might go down in value) who are willing to defend a convicted criminal?


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: wolftaur on September 02, 2011, 06:35:29 AM
A witch-hunt indicates that a mob of people is trying to burn an innocent person. Bruce Wagner is not an innocent person. At least not according to a court of law.
a mob of people is not a court of law
I guess you missed all the posts that showed the real evidence where a REAL COURT OF LAW has found him guilty?

You can't really blame him, though.

I mean, they stuck all the proof over into the "Off-Topic" section where nobody would see it.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: The_Duke on September 02, 2011, 06:40:53 AM
A witch-hunt indicates that a mob of people is trying to burn an innocent person. Bruce Wagner is not an innocent person. At least not according to a court of law.
a mob of people is not a court of law
I guess you missed all the posts that showed the real evidence where a REAL COURT OF LAW has found him guilty?

You can't really blame him, though.

I mean, they stuck all the proof over into the "Off-Topic" section where nobody would see it.

True, true. Maybe Magneto and others should read this topic. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40404.0)
or this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40503.0). or this. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40322.0)

Oh, and I reported this topic. It should be in the off-topic section, so it can join the rest of the "witch-hunt" topics.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: ThomasV on September 02, 2011, 06:43:16 AM
A witch-hunt indicates that a mob of people is trying to burn an innocent person. Bruce Wagner is not an innocent person. At least not according to a court of law.
a mob of people is not a court of law
I guess you missed all the posts that showed the real evidence where a REAL COURT OF LAW has found him guilty?

You can't really blame him, though.

I mean, they stuck all the proof over into the "Off-Topic" section where nobody would see it.

sorry if I was not clear. I know that a court has found him guilty.
however, that does not justify a witch hunt. this was the meaning of my post.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: The_Duke on September 02, 2011, 06:47:34 AM


sorry if I was not clear. I know that a court has found him guilty.
however, that does not justify a witch hunt. this was the meaning of my post.

So you feel it is better to hide this evidence and let Bruce get away with his lies? Basically you are saying it fine that Bruce (or others) gain people's trust by telling lies?

By the way, I hope Magneto realises that it's post like his that keep the drama going. There's already 5 topics about Bruces lies, fraud and crimes (omg, did I just do more witchhunting?). Why open another one.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: wolftaur on September 02, 2011, 06:51:31 AM
So you feel it is better to hide this evidence and let Bruce get away with his lies? Basically you are saying it fine that Bruce (or others) gain people's trust by telling lies?

Ssssh. Scandal makes bitcoin go down like a 500 Baht hooker.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: The_Duke on September 02, 2011, 06:53:50 AM
So you feel it is better to hide this evidence and let Bruce get away with his lies? Basically you are saying it fine that Bruce (or others) gain people's trust by telling lies?

Ssssh. Scandal makes bitcoin go down like a 500 Baht hooker.

I think Magneto might be Ed in disguise!

@ Mod: Thanks for moving this to the witch-hunt forums :P


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: wolftaur on September 02, 2011, 06:54:47 AM
Ssssh. Scandal makes bitcoin go down like a 500 Baht hooker.

I think Magneto might be Ed in disguise!

Ssssh. Bigger scandal makes bitcoin go down like Ed.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: kokjo on September 02, 2011, 06:56:00 AM
stop talking about bruce, we all know that he is not good.
start doing some good thing for the community.

please remember that i did not say that we should ignore him, or forget about him. but use our energy on something more productive.
tell new people what bruce is, and tell people that you dislike him for being a Bad Thing for the bitcoin community. and then stop.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: wolftaur on September 02, 2011, 06:57:06 AM
please remember that i did not say that we should ignore him, or forget about him. but use our energy on something more productive.
tell new people what bruce is, and tell people that you dislike him for being a Bad Thing for the bitcoin community. and then stop.

Are you fucking kidding me? Do you know how many -OLD- people are STILL saying the court documents don't prove he ever meant to scam anyone and crap like that?


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: The_Duke on September 02, 2011, 06:58:10 AM
stop talking about bruce, we all know that he is not good.
start doing some good thing for the community.

please remember that i did not say that we should ignore him, or forget about him. but use our energy on something more productive.
tell new people what bruce is, and tell people that you dislike him for being a Bad Thing for the bitcoin community. and then stop.

STOP!

Hammertime. (picture a judge slamming his hammer on Bruce's verdict now ;) )

I don't think we should stop pointing Bruce out as a scammer, fraudster and criminal until he admits here on the forums to what the judge convicted him of doing.
(And until he agrees that Pattaya is and was a horrible choice for a bitcoin meeting)


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: kokjo on September 02, 2011, 07:03:39 AM
please remember that i did not say that we should ignore him, or forget about him. but use our energy on something more productive.
tell new people what bruce is, and tell people that you dislike him for being a Bad Thing for the bitcoin community. and then stop.

Are you fucking kidding me? Do you know how many -OLD- people are STILL saying the court documents don't prove he ever meant to scam anyone and crap like that?
and...? they don't proof anything, i don't know what bruce intents to do scam or not, only he knows. i don't care. bruce's time as front figure for this project is over. i don't actually care what he did, just that his bad reputation is damaging the community.
and if you people keep talking about him, and making a huge mess, instead of doing something good, bitcoin is likely to die.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: The_Duke on September 02, 2011, 07:07:49 AM

and...? they don't proof anything, i don't know what bruce intents to do scam or not, only he knows. i don't care. bruce's time as front figure for this project is over. i don't actually care what he did, just that his bad reputation is damaging the community.
and if you people keep talking about him, and making a huge mess, instead of doing something good, bitcoin is likely to die.

Bad things do not go away by not talking about them. They try that tactic in almost every dictatorial regime and it fails time and time again.
Bitcoin does not get harmed by talking about scammers. Bitcoin gets harmed by allowing scammers to go unnoticed, unspoken of and unattacked.

It is people like Magneto who are harming bitcoin more than his so called "witch hunters".


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: rainingbitcoins on September 02, 2011, 07:10:15 AM
start doing some good thing for the community.

I'm building a Bitcoin Community Center with basketball courts and other activities to help keep the youth off the streets and away from ixcoins.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: wolftaur on September 02, 2011, 07:12:53 AM
I'm building a Bitcoin Community Center with basketball courts and other activities to help keep the youth off the streets and away from ixcoins.

Smart idea. There's a flaw in how the ixcoins "fix" is set up, and I figured out how ixcoins can be basically killed. It's not exactly hard, and I'm sure someone else will if they already haven't.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: kokjo on September 02, 2011, 07:15:37 AM

and...? they don't proof anything, i don't know what bruce intents to do scam or not, only he knows. i don't care. bruce's time as front figure for this project is over. i don't actually care what he did, just that his bad reputation is damaging the community.
and if you people keep talking about him, and making a huge mess, instead of doing something good, bitcoin is likely to die.

Bad things do not go away by not talking about them. They try that tactic in almost every dictatorial regime and it fails time and time again.
Bitcoin does not get harmed by talking about scammers. Bitcoin gets harmed by allowing scammers to go unnoticed, unspoken of and unattacked.

It is people like Magneto who are harming bitcoin more than his so called "witch hunters".
bruce got noticed. he did harm the community.

AND now you are harming the community too, by making alot a post about bruce, so that its the first thing you see when you search "bitcoin" on google. and thats not good for the community.

true bad things does not go away, by not talking about them. BUT bruce had been talked enough about, there is nothing more to talk about. seriously i don't want to hear more about him. but i want to hear about good projects from the community.

bruce bores me. and he sucks.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: rainingbitcoins on September 02, 2011, 07:21:40 AM
AND now you are harming the community too, by making alot a post about bruce, so that its the first thing you see when you search "bitcoin" on google.

No it's not. There's nothing about Bruce on the first page of Google results for Bitcoin. The first result is bitcoin.org and second is Wikipedia. The third result is an article from The Atlantic titled "The Bitcoin Economy Is Collapsing With No Sign of Recovery". I'd probably be more worried about that one.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: kokjo on September 02, 2011, 07:25:12 AM
AND now you are harming the community too, by making alot a post about bruce, so that its the first thing you see when you search "bitcoin" on google.

No it's not. There's nothing about Bruce on the first page of Google results for Bitcoin. The first result is bitcoin.org and second is Wikipedia. The third result is an article from The Atlantic titled "The Bitcoin Economy Is Collapsing With No Sign of Recovery". I'd probably be more worried about that one.
true true. nothing YET.

but if you continue, bruce might be front page stuff on google. which is not good.

and btw. if you care to read that article, you will find it very funny, and without any proofs or arguments.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: MaGNeT on September 02, 2011, 07:25:39 AM
Oh look, another guy who is so worried his wallet.dat might drop in value that he'd rather defend a proven fraudster and hide all of it than having the truth be known.


I don't have Bitcoins atm, mining i0coins and sc (see stats Coinotron).


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: wolftaur on September 02, 2011, 07:28:23 AM
No it's not. There's nothing about Bruce on the first page of Google results for Bitcoin. The first result is bitcoin.org and second is Wikipedia. The third result is an article from The Atlantic titled "The Bitcoin Economy Is Collapsing With No Sign of Recovery". I'd probably be more worried about that one.

I'm sure half the people defending Bruce just worry about what Google says about Bruce. I mean, really, his bills are probably due soon and he has a multi-hundred-thousand dollar judgment against him from a New York court. He needs more suckers clients to steal make some money from so he can skip town and avoid the NY court judgment against him pay the rent.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: wolftaur on September 02, 2011, 07:29:34 AM
and btw. if you care to read that article, you will find it very funny, and without any proofs or arguments.

I did a while ago. It was pretty hilariously bad "journalism."


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: The_Duke on September 02, 2011, 07:30:22 AM
Oh look, another guy who is so worried his wallet.dat might drop in value that he'd rather defend a proven fraudster and hide all of it than having the truth be known.


I don't have Bitcoins atm, mining i0coins and sc (see stats Coinotron).

Ah ok, one of those who eagerly abandon bitcoin to go mine any other fork that gives them momentarily more profit. And you worry about what a witchhunt might do to bitcoin? It's people like you who cause more damage than anything, so gtfo.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: greyhawk on September 02, 2011, 08:43:08 AM
please remember that i did not say that we should ignore him, or forget about him. but use our energy on something more productive.
tell new people what bruce is, and tell people that you dislike him for being a Bad Thing for the bitcoin community. and then stop.

Are you fucking kidding me? Do you know how many -OLD- people are STILL saying the court documents don't prove he ever meant to scam anyone and crap like that?
and...? they don't proof anything, i don't know what bruce intents to do scam or not, only he knows. i don't care. bruce's time as front figure for this project is over. i don't actually care what he did, just that his bad reputation is damaging the community.
and if you people keep talking about him, and making a huge mess, instead of doing something good, bitcoin is likely to die.

and if you people keep talking about him, and making a huge mess, instead of doing something good, bitcoin is likely to die.

and if you people keep talking about him, and making a huge mess, instead of doing something good, bitcoin is likely to die.

Dem dere Bitcoins sho' sound like a great inges... intess... monies, Paw!


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: wolftaur on September 02, 2011, 08:55:58 AM
Dem dere Bitcoins sho' sound like a great inges... intess... monies, Paw!

Rednecks. Because sometimes, even God can't resist kicking people when they're down.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: coinonymous on September 02, 2011, 09:55:53 AM
A witch-hunt indicates that a mob of people is trying to burn an innocent person. Bruce Wagner is not an innocent person. At least not according to a court of law.
a mob of people is not a court of law

And yet, a court of law clearly is a mob of people.   ;D


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: MaGNeT on September 02, 2011, 10:14:18 AM
A witch-hunt indicates that a mob of people is trying to burn an innocent person. Bruce Wagner is not an innocent person. At least not according to a court of law.
a mob of people is not a court of law

And yet, a court of law clearly is a mob of people.   ;D

But not a mob of people selected by themselves ;)

You won't hear me say Bruce Wagner is innocent.
But I don't think we are the people to "hang 'm high".


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: wolftaur on September 02, 2011, 10:14:51 AM
And yet, a court of law clearly is a mob of people.   ;D

But they swear an oath! That changes everything!

Oh, wait. Congress swears an oath too and look at them.

Never mind.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: wolftaur on September 02, 2011, 10:17:29 AM
But not a mob of people selected by themselves ;)

You won't hear me say Bruce Wagner is innocent.
But I don't think we are the people to "hang 'm high".

You're right on that point. I'm convinced he's guilty, and there's just too much afoot for me to not have the strong opinion that the guy needs to stop trying to be the Bitcoin Jesus.

As to whether or how he's punished, that should be up to a court of law, and/or any higher power or universal force (i.e., karma) that takes an interest.

A bunch of geeks on an internet forum is apparently qualified to judge but we shouldn't be considered qualified to sentence.  :D


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: MaGNeT on September 02, 2011, 10:27:33 AM
Oh look, another guy who is so worried his wallet.dat might drop in value that he'd rather defend a proven fraudster and hide all of it than having the truth be known.


I don't have Bitcoins atm, mining i0coins and sc (see stats Coinotron).

Ah ok, one of those who eagerly abandon bitcoin to go mine any other fork that gives them momentarily more profit. And you worry about what a witchhunt might do to bitcoin? It's people like you who cause more damage than anything, so gtfo.

I didn't say I'm worried about what a witchhunt might do to Bitcoins. Don't fill in the words for me.

I did say:

Did you hear the rumor? He drinks Pepsi...

Now we better stop this witch-hunt?

I'm just mining other currencies to make profit and sell them back to Bitcoins at a later stage.
No need to sell them for Dollars atm, just collecting and wait for prices to go up :)

Another part I had is sold for Dollars, so I don't have BTC atm (except for a few left in my wallet).


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: The_Duke on September 02, 2011, 11:08:28 AM

I don't have Bitcoins atm, mining i0coins and sc (see stats Coinotron).

Ok, so you don't have bitcoins, which is why you claim to not care if bitcoin price would go down.

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I didn't say I'm worried about what a witchhunt might do to Bitcoins. Don't fill in the words for me.

I did say:

Did you hear the rumor? He drinks Pepsi...

Now we better stop this witch-hunt?

Yes, to which I responded by saying you were just scared bitcoin value might drop, which you denied because you "had no bitcoins"...


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just collecting and wait for prices to go up :)

Ah, ok, so you ARE hoping for prices to go up. As I suspected. And that is why you want the Bruce-drama to "wash away".

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so I don't have BTC atm (except for a few left in my wallet).

Yeah, that is like Bruce committed no crimes (except the ones he was convicted for).

In any case:
1) You are defending a convicted criminal
2) You are just a speculator and a profiteer, the type that just dumps bitcoin as soon as he see something that is more shiny.

Why are you here to begin with?


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: MaGNeT on September 02, 2011, 11:12:47 AM

I don't have Bitcoins atm, mining i0coins and sc (see stats Coinotron).

Ok, so you don't have bitcoins, which is why you claim to not care if bitcoin price would go down.

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I didn't say I'm worried about what a witchhunt might do to Bitcoins. Don't fill in the words for me.

I did say:

Did you hear the rumor? He drinks Pepsi...

Now we better stop this witch-hunt?

Yes, to which I responded by saying you were just scared bitcoin value might drop, which you denied because you "had no bitcoins"...


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just collecting and wait for prices to go up :)

Ah, ok, so you ARE hoping for prices to go up. As I suspected. And that is why you want the Bruce-drama to "wash away".

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so I don't have BTC atm (except for a few left in my wallet).

Yeah, that is like Bruce committed no crimes (except the ones he was convicted for).

In any case:
1) You are defending a convicted criminal
2) You are just a speculator and a profiteer, the type that just dumps bitcoin as soon as he see something that is more shiny.

Why are you here to begin with?

Whatever pleases you.


Title: Re: Coca Cola and Bruce Wagner
Post by: The_Duke on September 02, 2011, 11:15:32 AM
Whatever pleases you.

My wife pleases me :)

Maybe you should go out once in a while, instead of worrying about witches and hunting. The heat of your bitcoin ixcoin i0coin solidcoin mining rig is clearly affecting your brain.
I bet you're the type to scour forums all day, right?

I still think this guy is Ed.