Title: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: JBWashington on January 11, 2014, 11:17:03 PM Hey guys. I am now selling my BFL Mini Rig. It runs at 500GH/s and is well worth the money in my opinion. It has a lifetime warranty for defects too!
Stats: 2 Reserved 3 Available for sale Price: 2000$ each Accepted Payment Methods: BTC (Will not use escrow because I dont trust an automated system. I however will use a middleman if needed so long as you let me choose him) Pic: http://gyazo.com/1bc7dc1bd3436360b3686668bc78ed6d.png Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: Gamer67 on January 12, 2014, 01:52:45 AM Any pictures with your forum user name ?
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: JBWashington on January 12, 2014, 02:00:14 AM Any pictures with your forum user name ? Ill get one soon.Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: FarmerOak on January 12, 2014, 02:04:09 AM OMG this could be used as the definition of a scam thread. I'd say "if it's too good to be true..." but no ones this dumb.
Quote (Will not use escrow because I dont trust an automated system. I however will use a middleman if needed so long as you let me choose him) WTF???Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: JBWashington on January 12, 2014, 02:14:04 AM OMG this could be used as the definition of a scam thread. I'd say "if it's too good to be true..." but no ones this dumb. Middleman is the same the same thing as escrow, set aside some minor differences. And they have been used, Im not selling them new.Quote (Will not use escrow because I dont trust an automated system. I however will use a middleman if needed so long as you let me choose him) WTF???Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: braindead on January 12, 2014, 03:56:42 AM I learned the hard way through a sale like this one.. for me no escrow no sales
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: realestone on January 12, 2014, 03:58:42 AM dude create a new account and try your scam again nobody is going to fall for that bullshit look how horrible the picture is cropped why would you crop a picture of something you are trying to sell??
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: JBWashington on January 12, 2014, 04:03:10 AM dude create a new account and try your scam again nobody is going to fall for that bullshit look how horrible the picture is cropped why would you crop a picture of something you are trying to sell?? I'm not creating an alt because im legit. I cropped it so it could look nice. at least I have a picture unlike other sales.Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: realestone on January 12, 2014, 04:09:42 AM dude create a new account and try your scam again nobody is going to fall for that bullshit look how horrible the picture is cropped why would you crop a picture of something you are trying to sell?? I'm not creating an alt because im legit. I cropped it so it could look nice. at least I have a picture unlike other sales.take a picture with the same mining hardware with your name written down on a piece of paper Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: crashoveride54902 on January 12, 2014, 04:30:20 AM i'll buy it but only if you use escrow thur dannyhamilton...which i doubt you'll agree too...i have to trust the 3rd party too which you could just make/say the 3rd party is legit but really still just you...
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: joeventura on January 12, 2014, 04:59:45 AM Dumbass, have you seen your own TRUST Score?
I wouldn't buy a glass of water from you if my shoes were on fire! Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: crazyates on January 12, 2014, 05:07:32 AM Dumbass, have you seen your own TRUST Score? For the record, I would piss on your shoe any day of the week. I wouldn't buy a glass of water from you if my shoes were on fire! Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: hyphymikey on January 12, 2014, 09:32:59 AM Would you sell in person? If so, where are you located?
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: JBWashington on January 12, 2014, 11:14:24 AM Would you sell in person? If so, where are you located? I'm in Illinois. I would prefer not to meet in persom though.Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: NorTiaN on January 12, 2014, 11:48:06 AM Would you sell in person? If so, where are you located? I'm in Illinois. I would prefer not to meet in persom though.LOLs... even a noob like myself can smell something fishy... Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: JBWashington on January 12, 2014, 11:56:25 AM Would you sell in person? If so, where are you located? I'm in Illinois. I would prefer not to meet in persom though.LOLs... even a noob like myself can smell something fishy... Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: ElGabo on January 12, 2014, 12:53:12 PM I'll buy 3, only with escrow
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: realestone on January 12, 2014, 12:57:29 PM Would you sell in person? If so, where are you located? I'm in Illinois. I would prefer not to meet in persom though.LOLs... even a noob like myself can smell something fishy... its been almost 12 hours where is the picture i asked for verification that you actually have the unit? Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: JBrace1990 on January 12, 2014, 01:26:32 PM I would even buy all 3 of them, but only through a third party escrow system. I'd even pay the escrow fees.
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: JBWashington on January 12, 2014, 01:33:10 PM I would even buy all 3 of them, but only through a third party escrow system. I'd even pay the escrow fees. Sorry bro, all of them are already sold.Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: realestone on January 12, 2014, 01:41:51 PM I would even buy all 3 of them, but only through a third party escrow system. I'd even pay the escrow fees. Sorry bro, all of them are already sold.what user did you sell them to? Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: JBWashington on January 12, 2014, 01:43:35 PM I would even buy all 3 of them, but only through a third party escrow system. I'd even pay the escrow fees. Sorry bro, all of them are already sold.what user did you sell them to? Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: realestone on January 12, 2014, 01:44:15 PM I would even buy all 3 of them, but only through a third party escrow system. I'd even pay the escrow fees. Sorry bro, all of them are already sold.what user did you sell them to? whats the btc address where you received the funds or who did you use for escrow? Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: JBWashington on January 12, 2014, 01:59:56 PM I would even buy all 3 of them, but only through a third party escrow system. I'd even pay the escrow fees. Sorry bro, all of them are already sold.what user did you sell them to? whats the btc address where you received the funds or who did you use for escrow? Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: realestone on January 12, 2014, 02:00:47 PM I would even buy all 3 of them, but only through a third party escrow system. I'd even pay the escrow fees. Sorry bro, all of them are already sold.what user did you sell them to? whats the btc address where you received the funds or who did you use for escrow? bullshit prove it Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: SaltySpitoon on January 12, 2014, 02:07:38 PM I'm interested in the remaining two. Just asked for some additional details :)
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: AndrewK on January 12, 2014, 02:08:23 PM I sent payment via paypal for the last three he was selling.
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: realestone on January 12, 2014, 03:48:26 PM I sent payment via paypal for the last three he was selling. you sent payment upfront to someone with negative trust? Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: ninjaboon on January 12, 2014, 04:18:29 PM I sent payment via paypal for the last three he was selling. you sent payment upfront to someone with negative trust? use escrow then. safer. Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: SaltySpitoon on January 12, 2014, 05:06:27 PM I sent payment via paypal for the last three he was selling. you sent payment upfront to someone with negative trust? They used Paypal, so completely reversable should something not work out. I'm interested to see how this all turns out, let us know when it arrives Andrew. Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: JBWashington on January 12, 2014, 05:10:51 PM I am in the process of getting my PayPal back. Mr. Blue Monkey SEed me out of it. I will make a scam report when I get back.
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: realestone on January 12, 2014, 05:20:46 PM I am in the process of getting my PayPal back. Mr. Blue Monkey SEed me out of it. I will make a scam report when I get back. what? can you speak english Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: AndrewK on January 12, 2014, 05:59:44 PM I will report back when they arrive thanks!
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: JBWashington on January 12, 2014, 06:03:25 PM I got my PayPal back before any unauthorized charges were made by the hacker.
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: BombaUcigasa on January 12, 2014, 07:00:14 PM Good luck with the sale. If you're finished, change the topic to closed.
Looking forward to the buyer feedback! https://i.imgur.com/vdIy4.gif Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: FarmerOak on January 12, 2014, 07:21:01 PM I am in the process of getting my PayPal back That isn't a saying and we don't know what you mean. PayPal account? PayPal payment? (you didn't send a payment, you supposedly received one) derp derp derp and so onI got my PayPal back Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: JBWashington on January 12, 2014, 07:41:33 PM I lost my account to a hacker
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: Gamer67 on January 12, 2014, 07:57:41 PM Damn dude. Either you are really unlucky, really suck at security or you are full of shit.
I am going to go with door number 3 please Bob. Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: realestone on January 12, 2014, 08:28:44 PM Damn dude. Either you are really unlucky, really suck at security or you are full of shit. I am going to go with door number 3 please Bob. agreed Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: MisterLG on January 12, 2014, 08:36:26 PM you sold 3 miners but on the first page you say that you have 3 available and 2 reserved?
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: brixton74 on January 12, 2014, 08:51:44 PM Cover those tracks quick....lmao! Scammer exposure is becoming a spectator sport on here.
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: BombaUcigasa on January 12, 2014, 09:04:38 PM I lost my account to a hacker I literally ate just 41 minutes of popcorn and the scam pops. Worst. Scam. Ever!Anyone watching, remember, buyer pays escrow, and it's not that expensive. Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: crashoveride54902 on January 12, 2014, 09:08:34 PM Cover those tracks quick....lmao! Scammer exposure is becoming a spectator sport on here. yes it is, but everyone is trying so hard to either scam or not to get scamed lol just sucks that you have to go thru all this to get some mining gear Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: realestone on January 12, 2014, 09:17:00 PM Cover those tracks quick....lmao! Scammer exposure is becoming a spectator sport on here. yes it is, but everyone is trying so hard to either scam or not to get scamed lol just sucks that you have to go thru all this to get some mining gear it seems this forum has had in influx of scammers over the last month or two i mean i can literally see it once every hour Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: brixton74 on January 12, 2014, 09:28:17 PM Would it be prudent to put an alert on these threads sooner...I mean the minute I see a pic of super hashing mining gear with no username or datestamp in the photo I immediately think its a scam and 100% of the time it's correct everytime....
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: mpattison on January 12, 2014, 09:36:29 PM Would it be prudent to put an alert on these threads sooner...I mean the minute I see a pic of super hashing mining gear with no username or datestamp in the photo I immediately think its a scam and 100% of the time it's correct everytime.... The problem with pictures in thread is that people can take those pictures, use Photoshop or whatever photo editing gear they can use, and manipulate them for their own purposes. :-\ I had this happen to me and I see it happen (ESPECIALLY on CL) daily. That is why I prefer to use PMs for pictures, that way I know what pictures have been sent to who. Just IMO. Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: Dalkore on January 12, 2014, 09:44:22 PM There are many scammers. It is quite easy to figure out when someone is trying to scam. If a seller will not setup a deal in a manner where "both" parties are protected, then usually it is a scam.
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: mpattison on January 12, 2014, 09:59:29 PM There are many scammers. It is quite easy to figure out when someone is trying to scam. If a seller will not setup a deal in a manner where "both" parties are protected, then usually it is a scam. Yeah, most times. But buyers are also sneaky. One buyer recently wanted to escrow with a site that said (and this is verbatum) "The arbitrators below were not vetted by Bitrated." So you want me to send my coins to who? Some random who could very well be yourself? The system as it is, is clearly not working. Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: BombaUcigasa on January 12, 2014, 10:37:59 PM There are many scammers. It is quite easy to figure out when someone is trying to scam. If a seller will not setup a deal in a manner where "both" parties are protected, then usually it is a scam. Yeah, most times. But buyers are also sneaky. One buyer recently wanted to escrow with a site that said (and this is verbatum) "The arbitrators below were not vetted by Bitrated." So you want me to send my coins to who? Some random who could very well be yourself? The system as it is, is clearly not working. The buyer appears to have used PayPal so in the event that this kid likes to waste everyone's time for some jail visits, he will be the one "scammed". Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: mpattison on January 12, 2014, 10:49:57 PM Agreed ^
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: brixton74 on January 13, 2014, 12:48:45 AM There are many scammers. It is quite easy to figure out when someone is trying to scam. If a seller will not setup a deal in a manner where "both" parties are protected, then usually it is a scam. Yeah, most times. But buyers are also sneaky. One buyer recently wanted to escrow with a site that said (and this is verbatum) "The arbitrators below were not vetted by Bitrated." So you want me to send my coins to who? Some random who could very well be yourself? The system as it is, is clearly not working. I think you are exactly correct, the system is not working correctly. Negative trust for a user evidently is not a deterrent. For every risk reduction there is a counter.....for instance if a seller uses escrow they can fix their own escrow holder to steal coins, the same can go for a buyer. Paypal can be used by the scammer buyer or the scammer seller side. Looking at Ebay, the only way they solve the issue is through buyer feedback.....and that requires a bad sale or a rip off to happen in the first place. The immediate and anonomyous nature of bitcoin is the same thing that makes it useful for scams. Open to any ideas...... Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: mrhelpful on January 13, 2014, 07:32:18 PM Someone close this thread?
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: AndrewK on January 13, 2014, 07:35:54 PM Nope. I'm waiting to see if they get here... will post back with the outcome.
Thanks Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: cxboyminer on January 13, 2014, 07:37:34 PM ... Some reputable escrows offer 0% charge... (FREE ESCROW, like me)Anyone watching, remember, buyer pays escrow, and it's not that expensive. Would you guys rather pay a little bit for protection or nothing to get scammed? USE ESCROW! Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: realestone on January 13, 2014, 07:41:27 PM Nope. I'm waiting to see if they get here... will post back with the outcome. has he provided you a tracking number?Thanks Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: dogie on January 13, 2014, 07:48:49 PM Nope. I'm waiting to see if they get here... will post back with the outcome. Put it in dispute so it will hold the funds. Otherwise he will withdraw funds and you'll have to fight to get paypal to cover it. And being bitcoin related, they'll probably say f off.Thanks Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: ssateneth on January 14, 2014, 12:06:08 AM AndrewK lemme know if you get your paypal back or not. I find it very unlikely that you would have paid up front unless you had a plan in the extremely likely event that something would go south with the deal, such as a BS claim about the seller getting their paypal account hacked.
Until then... /popcorn Nope. I'm waiting to see if they get here... will post back with the outcome. Put it in dispute so it will hold the funds. Otherwise he will withdraw funds and you'll have to fight to get paypal to cover it. And being bitcoin related, they'll probably say f off.Thanks It's not bitcoin related. He's buying physical computer parts in exchange for paypal. If there is no legitimate tracking number, then AndrewK can get his money back. But I agree, but it in dispute as soon as you can anyways. The earlier you do, the less chance he has to withdraw/move the money. Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: AndrewK on January 14, 2014, 02:39:41 PM Put the transaction under dispute. I got several private messages from him yesterday saying his account got hacked. Then saying he was underage...
Anyone know how long it'll take to get paypal to refund? Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: Gamer67 on January 14, 2014, 04:22:10 PM Sorry Andrew but the signs were all there. It was door number 3 from the start.
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: BombaUcigasa on January 14, 2014, 04:22:53 PM Put the transaction under dispute. I got several private messages from him yesterday saying his account got hacked. Then saying he was underage... How much can we "bribe" you with to rustle his ass a bit? Nothing expensive, just calling the police on him, calling the parents, reporting the scam attempt to the authorities, stuff like that...Anyone know how long it'll take to get paypal to refund? Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: cxboyminer on January 14, 2014, 05:00:30 PM You're lucky that you paid via PayPal... I'm sure you will get the refund since you're not buying online service/virtual goods (e.g. BTC, server hosting...). Just show PP this link and you will get your $$ back, hopefully...
Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: realestone on January 14, 2014, 07:15:52 PM Put the transaction under dispute. I got several private messages from him yesterday saying his account got hacked. Then saying he was underage... Anyone know how long it'll take to get paypal to refund? i hate to say i told you so Title: Re: [WTS] Butterfly Labs Mini Rig 500GHs Post by: AndrewK on January 14, 2014, 07:47:32 PM I allways try and give newbies a chance...
Luckily Paypal doesn't usually release funds like this until the items are delivered. One of the reasons I chose to use paypal. But you are all right. The extra protection that disputing gives me is worthwhile. |