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I like your site.  ONe thing is I don't think there needs to be so much time for each player to make a move.  Second, if I create a game, sometimes I have another window open while I'm waiting for someone to play and the game starts when I'm not looking, and I lose.

If you have your volume up, the site will "moo" at you when your game starts  :)

Thanks!  Traffic is going to make or break the site.  Signatures like your help, so thank you!
I'm trying to avoid making one-player games, but if traffic doesn't catch up, we may need to do that so people always have something to play...

how do we get referrals? I assume there's a link I can send to friends or something...

Yep!  There's a referral link at the bottom of the site that gives you instructions.

Thanks!
MooCoin

Ditto.  It's a good question considering an account (url) was created for us as soon as we arrived on the page, and there are no links or mentions of affiliate or referrals that I can see.

-edit - now i see it.  Just a suggestion, you may want to reconsider that white text on mostly white footer idea.

Nice site!  I look forward to playing and losing lots of games. :)

Good call.
There are actually 3 themes on the site, depending what time it is in your local area.  You may have seen it change if you were on the site at 5:00pm, 7:00pm, or 7:00am.  The "sunset" theme at 5pm was hard to read.
Now it's fixed  :)
We also added a "How do I refer people?" link next to the referral leaderboard.

Thanks for the suggestions!
MooCoin

Hi Everyone,

Do you think this is a cool concept, but wish there were more people on the site?  Help us out by upvoting our reddit link, or creating your own.
Also, remember you have a referral code that you can see by scrolling to the bottom of the MooCoin site!

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1v73av/new_bitcoin_gaming_platform_create_your_own_games/

Thanks!
MooCoin

Liking your idea and having fun with it but wish there was more than 2 games and more than just 1 on 1 play.

Thanks!  One of the cool things about MooCoin is that it's an open gaming platform.  We have an API that lets other developers create games to be hosted within our website.  In fact, the two games we already have are built on our own APIs.  We're hoping that we can get some players on board, which will then lead to talented developers creating more games for the site.  We're also working on our third game for the site, internally.

Regarding one player games, we're starting to consider that, as well.  Especially when there isn't high traffic, being able to come anytime and play against the computer.  We're already brainstorming some fun games in case we move this direction.

Thanks!
MooCoin

You're welcome. Yeah I'm a computer guy and currently studying to get some certs but I'm studying more for inter security and networking instead of coding and developing, otherwise I'd be very much into coding a game for you guys especially since your post says that the developer would get a little upfront fee and a small amount of profits that, that, game brings to the site. Anyone who knows about money there is no greater kind than that which is continual income. Speaking of income I've been looking and even though I've been in the forums for a day checking here and there I have noticed that plenty of companies mainly gambling companies are paying fees to have people "pimp" out their sigs for them either straight monthly fee or by number of posts a month; is this something you guys are currently doing or plan on doing eventually?

Not sure. 

Of course we would love people to use our referral program to bring people to the site.  Signatures play a big part in that.  Hopefully our existing referral incentives will lead to folks putting us in their signatures.  If not, we have a couple of other options we're considering. 
I personally feel like organic growth is best.  We're not in this to get a bunch of people to the site so we can get people to play against house odds.  We're trying to create something awesome:  An open gaming platform where developers can create cool, unique games in a simple and secure way.  And a place where players can come and battle it out for fun through faucet play, or for profit through deposits.

I guess the end goal either way is a bunch of users  :)

Thanks,
MooCoin

https://www.moocoin.com?r=PUB6669a5d1b4f86a133d126f5b432a6a1a  :o

Curious about the referrals... I plan to write a couple articles about your site on my crypto blog and maybe make a video for you... hoping those pay off for you AND me (of course!) with lots of sign-ups.  But I also wanted to check on something.  I referred my roommate, but I didn't get credit for a sign-up.  I will make the assumption that it's because it's showing up that the sign-up came from the same IP address -- but I figured I would check to be sure.  And even though my referral was legitimate, if you aren't blocking or guarding against multiple accounts from a single IP, you may want to consider implementing such a system so someone doesn't cheat the system.  I'd hate to send 50+ referrals your way and lose out to some schmuck who "refers" several hundred virtual machines or sandboxed browsers to steal your generous .2BTC offer.

P.S. You're welcome for the user interface tip. 

Sorry I didn't make the referral system super clear.  Here's how it works:
When you refer someone, you get 10% of all fees we collect from that user, for life.  The 10% is instantly credited to your own MooCoin account in realtime.
We collect a 1% fee from the winner of any wager over .0001 btc. 

The leaderboard reflects the total amount you've earned from our referral system.  If you refer one person who wins a single wager of 1000 btc, you'll have earned, and are going to show up on the leaderboard with 1 btc.

This essentially eliminates people gaming the system by referring a bunch of bogus accounts.  Both for the tournament, and post-launch.

Hope that helps!
MooCoin

Ok what about if a user that I referred bets .00000100 BTC 10 times, will I get .00000001 BTC in referrals?  Otherwise it's going to be impossible for the tournament to get referral BTC.

No, we don't charge any fees at all for wagers below .0001 btc.  We want people to play micro-limits for fun, and for free.
It's pretty easy to play bigger games on the site.  I'm actually a bit surprised we don't have anyone winning 20 btc games, yet.  Perhaps not everyone understands TestNet.

If you want more coins, there are a number of TestNet faucets that give out free TestNet btc.  Go check out
http://faucet.xeno-genesis.com/
or
http://tpfaucet.appspot.com/

Thanks,
MooCoin

I can't believe you are going to give out .4 to someone who is basically scamming the site.  There's someone who has played 95 games, and lost all 95.  So it's basically who has the most time to kill.  He's just joining games and losing on purpose, I've seen him do it to me. (betting low with a 2).

Some of this behavior is "abnormal" and unique to the beta.  You won't see people intentionally losing games after launch.  That's why we created an incentive so that we could see it now.  :)

Maybe we should explain more about the process we've learned over the years to develop software and create startups.

We have a backlog of Leap of Faith assumptions.  We rank order those assumptions based on risk to the success of the project.  We then test those as quickly and cheaply as possible.  There's much more to it than that, but if you want a good overview of the process we use, it's very similar to the "Lean Startup" by Eric Ries.

In that context, our first question was, "Could someone drain the faucet?" because that posed a risk to the concept of the site.  We ran a beta on MainNet with a faucet a month ago and found that people were able to exploit the faucet.  One person was so successful that they drained $10 USD out of the faucet before they hit the hard limit per user we set in the system.  We kept the beta open and tweaked the faucet until we were confident that we had systems in place to limit exploitation.  That led to better ways to monitor the velocity of the faucet, and better backup plans we can implement in case someone finds an exploit.

That's just one experiment, and we have hundreds in the backlog.

The tournament is not in place because we want to give people money  :)  It's there to answer very specific questions we have.  Take the win:loss, winning streak, and losing streak categories for example.  We want to put a system in place that flags abnormal behavior outside of a "normal" threshold.  We don't know where to set the threshold without real people on the website.  We want some of them to act "normally" and others to act "abnormally" so we can build out a distribution.  Hence, the leaderboads that incent "good" behavior and "bad" behavior. 

The data we're collecting about player behavior will be used to make the site better, flag cheaters in the future, and work out any bugs before our launch.  We've already built out some models of regular user behavior, uncovered a bug related to network communication problems that makes games get "stuck", and made changes to the site based on this tournament.

Everything we've learned is what we wanted to learn, and we're getting all of it for roughly $1,200 USD.   That's what one of our Software Engineers makes in a few hours at his day job.

We're actually really happy to share this transparent way we think about the problem with folks - we just normally don't find people that interested in hearing about it.  If anyone has questions about how we code, how we think about the structure of the platform, or what our goals are with MooCoin, let us know!  We're doing something that we think is really special by creating a place where developers can create cool games and people can play them.  We could have created YADG (Yet Another Dice Game), but we aspire to make something better than that.  We're still in the early stages, so stay with us.  I promise it will be a lot of fun!

Thanks,
MooCoin

Wow that makes sense.  So you don't mind paying people who are "scamming" right now so long as they help you figure out how to avoid behavior like that in the future.  Ok, well on that front I'm not even going to bother trying to win any of the categories, but I wish you the best of luck.

^^ Dude chill it isn't your baby.  Live fire fragging is some of the best testing. I got in on that faucet before, after that told them and helped to fix it. If it's possible to exploit, someone will inevitably. So stop crying you didn't have the "good" idea. Like the guy who camps in a FPS gets a 2.0 k/d, don't be mad he owned you, the game can be played many ways.

In transaction history when you withdraw it comes up as undefined. Everything else seems to be working fine as of now. Good job.

How do faucets really work? Are they actual "capital" coins or is like monopoly money. It might look nice to have 500 but no store will ever break the $500 for a candy bar much less let you buy the candy bar?

Faucets are just a place to get coins for free.

The "monopoly money" aspect of MooCoin is that we're currently running on TestNet.  It's a parallel network that we use for testing so we don't put real bitcoins at risk.  Once we've proven out the software, we'll switch to the main network.

Thanks!
MooCoin

Hope you're starting to see some of that volume move up, hopefully see this in the future as well.  ;)

Surprising enough it adds up quick that little fee. If people start bringing in their own coin this could be another primo thing.

Fixed this  :)
And thank you for the encouragement.

We're going to take the server down for about 5 minutes to do an upgrade that can't be done with our normal zero-downtime procedure.  Please stand by!

Thanks,
MooCoin

All set.  Game on!

Hey all!

Only 6 days left in the tournament.  Come to MooCoin (https://www.moocoin.com) for your chance to win 1.2 BTC

https://www.moocoin.com/img/daysleft.png

We just introduced a new feature.  We now have a friendly bot on the site that will play games with you.  We decided to do this to make sure that you always had someone to play, even when traffic is low.  We want to make sure you know you're playing a bot, so we've tagged him:
https://www.moocoin.com/img/botIntro.png

He will always keep one hi-lo game open at .000001 btc.  If you don't see him, it's because he's already in a game.  Just give him a second and he'll create another one as soon as he's finished.  Also, he's not very good.  In fact, he's horrible.  It's just a proof of concept right now.  What do you guys think?  Should we have bots on the site to play when there aren't enough people?  If you like the idea, we'll make it provably fair, etc.

Thanks,
MooCoin

Hey everyone,
Please don't bot the bot.  In other words, don't join the bots game with your scripts.  I'd like it to hang out there for people when they show up to play, rather than having them leave the site because there aren't any games.  Having games for people to play when they come to the site is critical for our success. 

Thanks,
MooCoin

We're allowing "cheating" right now during beta so we can measure it, and build models that will help us eliminate it when the site goes live.
Once we go live, well disallow cheating.

Thanks!
MooCoin

I'm not complaining but some people took this to a new level. I was pulling decent leads on everyone in 4 categories. Then you got the guy who apparently has a little to much free time doing 1300 BTC between 2 accounts. This just made it less fun as the 20 testnet coins I have been waiting to deposit for 3 days finally arrived. That pace isn't even worth catching up to, but challenge accepted as I'm not inclined to just let another win. If I come out of this with nothing I'm gunna freak a little.

On a side note we drained over 1000 coins in under a week and i'm pretty sure it's lagging like a bitch as some deposits are not even showing.

2 things you might want to think about adding is how much the current wager is for and if your opponent is a bot in the game. Seeing the outcome of the game for a few seconds would be nice before it flashes the congrats or sorry message as well.

Deposits can take some time on TestNet.  The block mining is a little less stable and predictable compared to mainNet.
The people who are using huge amounts and huge numbers of games are really stress testing the system.  I know it's frustrating from a player point-of-view, but it's all in the name of making the site rock-solid for when we go live on MainNet

Thanks,
MooCoin

Both really good suggestions.  Thanks!

And just got blown out of a close second in referrals after dude came in moving 52 coins at a time can't contest that. Only other thought before you go live add a pic to the tab bar in the browser. looks good though, all the luck on your journey.

Hi Everyone!

The Release Candidate Tournament is now over!
Congratulations to our winners, and thanks to everyone who was on the site and helped us get the system ready for launch.  We learned a LOT about running the system at scale and that's going to help us make the launch even better for you, the players!

We're going to make some changes to the system before we go live, but they won't take long.  Stay tuned to BitCoinTalk.org for our launch announcement, or check back at www.moocoin.com (https://www.moocoin.com)


Most Bitcoin earned through referrals: PUBc4cfa98886fa98146d7cdc3b6342a7a0   - PAID!
Most Bitcoin won: PUB358c2b3af200b823341d4eba16a60122 - PAID!
Best winning ratio: PUBaa46516ff63faaf7daf3aeda9c6a35e5 - PAID!
Most games played: PUB92af0fb5316f5ef9ad340e96d253b4a1 - PAID!
Best winning streak: PUBaa46516ff63faaf7daf3aeda9c6a35e5 - PAID!
Worst losing streak: PUB48cb9dfc3baefb77ba4b1696435c7074 - PAID!

If you won, please email us at admin@moocoin.com as soon as possible to collect your 0.2 BTC reward!

Thanks!
MooCoin

Just a heads up.  
During the tournament, we collected over 1,100 BTC in TestNet coins.  We just donated these coins back to the TestNet faucets:
550 coins to TP's TestNet Faucet (http://tpfaucet.appspot.com/)
550 coins to MojoCoin (http://faucet.xeno-genesis.com/)

Here are the transactions in case anyone cares  :)
http://blockexplorer.com/testnet/tx/cc3c9bf8655479f7afb018907468bda3da2f760ac76fde70a44f5633b501b930
http://blockexplorer.com/testnet/tx/c4dce9e2ac16dae41ab51fe3647501c3fc3d89b0c72809eff0b8b28e151c2004

Thanks,
MooCoin