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Recent on-board bounty programs find ways to limit the reward for the bounty hunter
- They asked for KYC after a few days and only announced it after the bounty program ended. These projects are increasing -> Should be announced from the beginning for the bounty hunter.
- Especially recently some projects have requested to send their ETH to receive tokens such as CIBUS, Betex ... These projects are managed by extremely prestigious managers such as needmoney .. -> This is not Acceptable and infuriating for all bounty hunters (there are those they just received ~ $ 10 but the fee they had to send ~ $ 4)
  I find this to be unacceptable and create a bad precedent for forum projects. We have to speak up to protect the rights and efforts of the forum members

KYC is protection from multi-accounts, if you can prove your identity, and others can not, then you will get more payments!

I'm currently participating in the HashKard campaign, where it will be necessary to pass KYC. but on the official site there is even no form for sending data ... :-\

I agree but they should announce when the bounty starts not at the end. There are people who do not like it

Apparently, the problem of multi-accounts is really worth it. :D However, information about document checks, and, especially, about the need to become an investor of a project, should be present from the beginning. And this is unquestionable.

Well a case could be made for KYC being neccessary, but i agree that this  should be made clear at the start of the campaign. As for sending ether to recieve tokens well thats a big red flag for me.

I believe its HASHCARD (hahaha) cause I accidentally join their telegram group


Yes most of the bounty hunters hate sending copy of their ID and passport as well since it is like their identity is being scatter everywhere, sometime there are airdrops also asking for KYC (what the -----????), get annoyed so I just say pass!!!

Asking for ETH wallet is okay but never send ETH to someone with out a valid reason. Check if that person is the real person or maybe their are different in their name.

That's bad after a month of handwork the only news that you can hear is you would not get any tokens this is absolutely unjust taking advantage of the people after doing something what they made us to do. that's why i always asked when joining bounty if KYC is required to get the stakes.

many these are just alibi not to pay everybody in the bounty pool. a legitimate bounty program should announce all the requirements upfront  and should refuse to accept the work from those who are ineligible

if I think that the concept like that rarely like the same bounty hunter for having to spend capital first

1. KYC is needed for verification which to me is ok especially with impersonators all over the space. But I strongly advocate that bounty hunters be made to know there'll be KYC needed for participants to claims their spoil before they commence. Bounty hunters should be left with the choice of deciding whether to participate in a bounty or not due KYC verification needed. In essence, information on KYC should be communicated ab initio.

2. Bounty managers that require you to send ETH in order to claim tokens is a red flag. This shouldn't be condoned as they smell of scam from miles away!

for any bounty sometime who need a KYC usually will write in thread that project need KYC and the other rules such as us residents are not allowed to take part in this project.so for bounty hunter for better to doing next project prepare passport for the future when the project need KYC we will not complicated

If you are asked to send the Ether to get tokens, then consider that this is a 100% scum.

quite argee if it is a quality progam and a little bit of ETH  8)

Yeah but that is a selfish way of looking at things. What about the people who did it straight up but don't want to reveal identity? Those people get hurt in these spots and that isn't fair at all to the whole community.

I read a lot and KYC. They write a lot of positive and negative things. Personally, I think that this is an important thing because it helps both the developers and the bounty hunter. I think that more drops and bounties will demand the passage of KYC

Probably, in this way companies are trying to protect themselves from paying a lot of multi-accounts. But we should understand that this makes defenseless honest participants. In any case, it is wrong to require documentary confirmation from bounty participants, especially at the end of the work done.

They are trying to protect themselves from player who participate with multi-accounts. maybe some security problem are consider

I also do not understand why a cibus asks ETH before they send a coin to a bounty participant. what does cibus not want to pay for gass?

One of my bounty project asked participants to pay eth, to 'protect' from bots. For me it is simple cheating. I am not going to pay for my own work. And also it is a big red flag. According to my experience i will never pay for airdrops and bounty.

For some campaigns, that's a good thing. It allows us to get rid of things like multi-account. I have 2 million accounts in the forum, but I really wish to know how many users it would be if I wanted to. I think it is okey for some projects.

Maybe this is true because in the first place kyc must be done before the bounty campaign ends. And I think why do we need to pay some eth just to receive the bounty which we work for so many weeks and yet they are demanding for more from you. I think rules for the bounty campaign must be clear on day 1.

This is my first time to hear about this matter where you would need to send some eth just to prove something that you are not a Bot.? Its a ridiculous way on having this kind of verification. KYC would already be an enough thing and now they do ask for more.

This is the thing why it do really sucks as a bounty hunter where you have been asked to comply KYC when the campaign or program has ended which you would really have a hard time to make decisions if you do comply or not because it is not being stated since from the start and same as you said there are lots of people who dont like it.

Ethereum ERA also applied that send gas fees to receive airdrop tokens but that gas fees was more high than airdrop tokens

this is so bad i want to say that this is a scam. they tried to raise funds from participants. sort of to cover payment for bounty.
They do this the reason is not want to pay bounty and this is a crime. ???

I understand the need for measures against multiple signups. And also like that there are measures against it, although I don't like to do give away all my data to some strangers that might even turn out to be scammers. So I generally stay away from bounty campaigns that require kyc. That leads us to the very important point of the obligatory need to state clearly from the beginning of the campaign if kyc will be necessary to participate or not. Everything else is just not fair, and represents a red flag for me. Just can be really disgusting if you worked for a project throughout the whole campaign just to find yourself in the dilemma of rejecting your reward by protecting your personal data or risk an potential breach of your personal data just to get what you honestly worked for and therefore deserve. But still I do think that there need to be measures against the heavy fraudulent activities going on in bounty campaigns.

I  support the author of the topic. Recently, even popular managers are increasingly resorting to tricks. This is done so that the bounty hunters do their work for free. To the ICO and the bounty, confidence has greatly decreased, it is time to change something.

Projects requiring to send them ETH is fraud. In such projects, it is not necessary to participate, and even more so to send them something. KYC is normal, and even good, will cut off half of the people using multi-accounts. But you need to be more careful and do not send photos of documents to incomprehensible organizations.

Dilemma on choosing up whether you comply the KYC process or just simply dont mind on your token share or salary on taking part of their bounty program.For most people this would really be a hard situation and for those who in need of money wont really have any choice but to comply with the things needed even they dont like the process.It sucks and even on my part i dont like for my identity to be exposed of even i dont need to hide something but i dont like my informations would float into internet world.  

- i have no problem with kyc. actually, kyc should not be a problem for people.
- this is not cool. sending first ethereum to receive bounty token, smells for me like a scam.

apparently there are many bounty campaigns that act unfairly. good to know.  ::)

But it's so easy to make a fake identity or take disadvantage on KYC system. You can send customize I.D. or even a fake address, specially if the project is based on other country. Add the points of too many applicants,customers,participants or investors that need to send KYC, thousands of information will send day by day, so it means there are some fake accounts or KYC that will pass through on it.

I agree completely and support your idea. we perform hard work and in the end, we still request that you transfer certain assets for our work. it's unacceptable!

KYC will be a problem if you are a bounty hunter with at least 10 accounts. You need to fill up those 10 or more account with different identity. That will be toxic and full of lies in the first place. KYC is counted as a safety measure too, if some one stole your account if you fill up your KYC verification, you can block immediately all the transaction and recover or lessen the loss of your account in specific project. What do you think?

Pleased with your support, this issue is only really important to new bounty hunters. But people want to receive a small amount from the bounty. Older members have other stable income sources such as trade and ICO, most of them just sign campaign.

Indeed, they can change specific laws in campaigns, but major laws must be explicitly announced. I think reputable bounty managers should speak out on this issue to ensure a proper orientation for future projects. They have to understand they pay for our work, but bounty hunters have to ask for free from them

The KYC is needed in some good projects to make sure you aren't using multiple accounts in bounty campaign. About send ETH to receive bounty token, it's not so good I think, I know 4 - 10$ is not a big money, but send ETH to get an altcoin, well quite risky...

Can I get more info and web address?

Meanwhile, KYC is also important in order to show yourself that you are legit and in some ways it is redundant of the part of bounty hunters and investors to a certain program, aside from the fact that it takes time to process this, it is also a redundant on the part of the management where they need to check each and everyone.

On the part of sending ETH to receive the tokens, yes its more increasing nowadays, which is annoying and i didnt participate this type of airdrops, because in some ways, this might be a another way of scamming people, and in fact, some of this tokens dont really have value until this time.

Have a great day

I think this is not bad. But it's not good for newbies like me. I do not have enough eth to send

Thank you for the information, it is good to know that this kind of scam is existing.

Hello if any body or bounty manager ask you to send ETH before he will reward you for the bounty token it is a pure scam. If you participated in any bounty it means that you work for them to make a successful ICO and your work should be pay for and not that they ask you to send ETH.

I think this is one step to reduce multiple accounts for the bounty hunters,
and KYC one of the right steps

Hello if any body or bounty manager ask you to send ETH before he will reward you for the bounty token it is a pure scam. If you participated in any bounty it means that you work for them to make a successful ICO and your work should be pay for and not that they ask you to send ETH. Be very careful in the type of people you idea with scammer are now many in bounty now.

Right, never pay eth to receive bounty token because it's a bad sign.
remember the cibus, and now the coin is dead.  :-[

I agree not to accept the campaign to send eth to receive the bonus, it is unreasonable.

this happened to many ICO project, this is not the managers fault.
The KYC request must be done on the website of the project.
i dont like KYC but i just make them just to earn.

But sending ETH to get the bounty? this will never happen.

Bounties that require ETH for you to receive your reward are skam.Check if the ETH is actually requested by the developers themselves.

I do not see it as you think, many bounty hunters do not pass kyc but their money is not divided for those who pass the kyc. It is managed by bounty manager that can keep airdrop or other bounty programs. I think the bounty should be kyc before the start, the hunters pass the kyc will earn more.

Change the terms of the bounty after the end of the company I think is wrong.

All conditions must be announced at the time of the start of the company and the changes should be based on the opinion of the bounty members

Require ETH is fraud >:(

I have not encountered bounties with KYC so far. I thin having KYC in the campaign is a good thing, since a lot of people are being enticed by the popularization of cryptocurrency and how would they be able to earn more from it. One factor that the project managers is looking at is to prevent Multiple accounts. Most hunters do this to earn more than the usual especially if token is giving giving big rewards on its allocation or if the project has potentials.

it sucks if kyc is announced after bounty is done but if previously announced it is very good because to avoid multiple accounts,and to request delivery eth i have never experienced but I think that's a bit of an exaggeration because it tends to fraud so we should be more careful.

KYC is the main problem of bounty joiners, rampant issues of multiple accounts or fake accounts. That's why they KYC was implemented.
It's hard to determine also because they just implement it at the bottom of the ICO ending.

No, lot of bounties has advised their participants to do KYC since bounty started. There are also lot of people using fake KYC document to hide their real ID.

This is true, but at least we should be informed at the beginning so those who are not comfortable giving their information would not waste time on the bounties.

I've had an experience of this. I participated in a bounty campaign and was asked to submit my KYC details before they could pay me. This is very bad and sad as I could not give out my details. Something surely needs to be done.

KYC should be announce if they need it on the very first date they release the bounty program for everyone, because you know I am one of the person who don't want to verify my accounts by giving your private information just to join a bounty.

If a  bounty campaign told the participants that they should send ethereum first to recieve thier tokens well definitely a scam.

i'm actually ok with kyc if it's a large sum, and if i intend to be a productive member of the particular project community, but it seems to be a bit counterproductive for bountie hunters with small rewards ~<$30, maybe there shd be a tiering system.

for me too risk pay eth to get token bounty reward, assumed it is not a scam, but whether later his token will have a good value. is not that by joining the bounty program  tantamount we helping them to promote their project, but if pay for is just the same as we follow their private sale

for me the KYC system does not matter, I am personally very enthusiastic about this new rule. and about the redemption of the gift of payment I think this is very relevant, what we get as a bounty hunter is proportional to our hard work. if we work really well will get the right rewards ..
let's impro

ve our performance ...

Projects requesting verification of KYC is still very reasonable as long as the identity bitcoiner awake, but if there is a manager who asked to send a number of ETH in question and make a bitcoiner be in doubt of the truth of the project

many these are just alibi not to pay everybody in the bounty pool. a legitimate bounty program should announce all the requirements upfront  and should refuse to accept the work from those who are ineligible

haha, yes it was dead. Betex has reduced 50% of its members on their telegrams. Losing the trust of the community is very important, the bounty hunters are also mostly investors of the project.

I agree with the existence of kyc, this is to prevent the cheaters playing with multiple accounts but who annoyed sometimes they announced at the last ICO

I buy your thought. KYC should be a part of the bounty registration process. Most of the hunters miss out when KYC is requested at the end of bounty campaign. It is assumed that such are fake accounts but that is not totally true.

Well if you can't provide any legit KYC in every account, it will consider those account a fake one or a abuse one. They need to make sure that most of the token in every bounty will not go to one person only, just to avoid the manipulation of altcoin value.

Most of the bounty hunters do about 20-50 projects, many do not remember to go to review projects have ended =))

that would be a bad sign for me. i would not get involved in that and not send any amount of ethereum.

i would rather give up the token.

very unnatural if we have to pay just to get this token does not make sense where we are in following every project want to get paid not vice versa, with there kyc is very difficult to do it in add again to get token participants have to pay with eth, it is ironic

really dev, it's not fair for prize hunters. they have to pay first for their hard work. because bounty hunters follow 20 - 30 projects to earn an income. if this is in demand all kyc it will be very difficult for them to do it.

will all bounty be treated like that? I guess why bounty participation should pay to take the prize?

I agree not to accept the campaign to send eth to receive the bonus, it is unreasonable.

That's right thar Cibus asked us to pay transfer fee for bounty tokens (I did it).
I hated that, but the fee wasn't as high as you say, I "just" transfered 0.0003 ETH ... and that's already too much.

Another project asked bounty hunters to buy tokens (0,1 ETH) before to receive their earnings!!! It sounds a lot like SCAM... the project is FIANCIA. They asked it when campaign was already 80% done.

I will not join in pursuing a reward if a project asks for donations regardless of the amount. like my past experience following a project that will reward me after donation is ultimately a scame project

The bounty hunter sent ETH to them is not much. It is difficult to choose if you follow the project from scratch and receive a token of $ 500-1000

That is a big lie. A legit bounty project will not ask for donation for them to release your bounty tokens. This doings are scam attempt. Better to stay away on this kinds of program.

I agree with you, we here the bounti hunter help to market their projects.

although in a small amount to send Eth to get a reward, for me this is not good for a bounti project.

while for KYC, I think it is necessary to do for a bounti project to maintain sportsmanship in bounti campaign

I think they might do that to prevent the entry of participants who register with multiple accounts. and it seems to work. only the less good is the eth amount that must be sent too much if it is compared with the amount of reward that will be obtained. what TS said that bounty participants receive approximately just $ 10 and have to send $ 4 is a fact. ;D
LMAO

That's bad aft a period of handcraft the single colloquy that you comprehend is you would not excite whatever disc this is emphatically actionable bewitching leaf of the community aft behavior something what they unreal us to do. that's reason i always inquired when connection charity whether KYC is missed to excite the stakes.

Sending ETH first before we get the reward token is not good to us being a bounty hunter. I hope that I will not encounter that type of project. Why we need to shoulder the gas?

Just share the experience, do not be too confident with the bounty that requires the bounty hunters to send ETH to receive the rewards, even if it is for any sensible reason. For example CIBUS, it's just a scam project. But to provide KYC data I do not think it's a problem.

Change the rules of the bounty company's after its completion - this is fraud. All rules must be known before the start of the bounty.

KYC is good for projects and bounty hunters. But this should be reported immediately

Yeah I have experienced that, after the calculation of all stakes and we were about to wait for the distributions of our token. The bounty manager requested us to fill-up the form for the KYC which I surprised. Anyway, doing KYC has advantage to a legit bounty hunter but the bounty manager should advise that at the start of the bounty to make it clear to the participants.

I don't understand is project ICO is not able to pay a fee inquiry to gifts participants bounty? successful project but not able to issue a fee send of 1 ETH or $ 400? this is very funny.

Send ETH to get a token bonus. - This is a fraud now. Those who do this want to play on the greed and stupidity of ordinary people.

I will stop or leave the bounty. it is very harmful. should I pay my gift? I work for the project and I should accept the results of my work.

For the KYC we simply have to get used to it, because all projects (or most of them) will ask to do it in the future.

For the second point, I think it's ridiculous. If a project doesn't even have (or is not willing to spend) the few ether for the transactions to pay the bounty hunters - and, we must remember bounty hunters are paid only AFTER the ICO is finished, so only after all all the funds are raised - is simply a ridiculous project, in my opinion. If the team behind is honest, they should say this at the beginning, so that you can stay away from that project as much as possible  ;)

Some Bounty Campaign need the participants send some Gas fee to withdraw token in their platform, it is normal. Please carefully check the bounty is legit or scam before do this action

I strongly agree to pay bounty participants using ethereum to avoid the token dump price after the token list on the exchange and I think it is more attractive to investors

it is compared with the amount of reward that will be obtained. All rules must be known before the start of the bounty.

That is a good option but they usually don't like it. Many projects rewarded thousands of ETH and all through the tokens but the value is actually much lower.  They have thought up the maximum benefit and that is why it is not applied.

I don't like it when they change the rules of participation in the bounty. Some managers ask to take a course at the end of the bounty. It is better to write initially what you need to pass.

Why they asked for ethereum. We work hard to promote their campaign. So they need to give us what we deserve. Without any asking to send them ethereum.

Really normal looking, IKO always send the token to the purse themselves. And never ask to Prelate Etherium, thou would have to pay for gas

When this happens, it is necessary to consider whether the value of this bounty item is untrustworthy. .
I mean, the important steps such as the KYC's proposal at the end are not reasonable, or that this bounty activity is rushed, and their purpose may not be as simple as it seems.
If they just want to ensure that the participants are real people, announce them at the beginning.

KYC at the end of the bounty isn't very positive. On the other hand I understand that many projects are officially registered and they are obliged to submit information about investors to regulators. Bounty hunters are also considered as investors. Very often the team completes the official registration after the start of the bounty campaign bounty and itself doesn't know that they will need to conduct the KYC in the end

KYC is not for fighting multi-accounts, but for compliance with the laws of many countries. There is nothing difficult to go into dark-net and buy there copies of documents

i think when it need to  send ethereum to receive bounty, there is an immediate suspicion of fraud. When I participated in one campaign, I needed to send ether to get bounty tokens - but I did not do it. Has anyone really sent ethereum and have received a bounty after?

I've met this situation while trying to withdraw TokenGo tokens from the cabinet. It is a must to send ETH to cover transaction fees. That's not such a big deal honestly but it certainly damages the reputation of the company to my mind. Such serious project could take of such details.

Incase anyone asking you to send the transaction fee to send your bounty rewards then this will be a scam,they actually giving us money so it is not fair to ask some money to end our money.This mostly happens with airdrop campaigns so don't be such an idiot and don't waste time on promoting that kond of shady projects.

Send ETH to receive bounty token this is a total scam although I have come across the issue several time what I always do is to leave their reward to them so far they can get more ETH from it. I can never give my ETH to receive any bounty

KYC should be announce if they need it on the very first date they release the bounty program for everyone, because you know I am one of the person, I agree with KYC!

I agree with you. KYC is needed but it should be notified soon and must be notified by email

KYC is a necessity for ICO to avoid multiuser accounts. If you pass KYC, you will have a reward. And I really can not accept the ICO asking for an ETH to be able to get the reward. Too bad

I have been noticing this sometimes and I never send eth for neither bounty tokens nor airdrop cos it's definitely scam. I havent seen kinda projects that eventually become successful.

KYC is a good thing for some ICO and that is normal, also the announcement of having KYC at the end is another power of team and managers.
but the other thing you mentioned, that is not good, why you need to send ETH? that is not acceptable.

what would you say if you would need to activate the stellar wallet to get the Glitzkoin coins? There, too, you need to buy XLM.

Have you ever noticed that a greater part of bounties managed by the Legendary "needmoney" last for more than 10 weeks (I've seen milestones like 14, 16, 17, 30 weeks).
Isn't that suspicious when a bounty campaign takes like 3.5 - 7.5 months?

I am definitely not trying to abuse anybody and feel sorry in advance if the above statements looked too subjective.
But personally I have made my own conclusions long ago on whether one should waste his time on projects that make their community work for half of a year without a decent reward.

Yeah, they should announce at the beginning of the campaign. It's totally unethical to do that, especially if they ask ETH to give the reward. The good thing is they can only do that for once. 8)

I think you guys should stay away from bounty campaigns like that :). I don't see any bounty campaigns which require bounty hunters send ETH to be able to claim token from bounty campaigns. LOL. Let imagine there are thousands participants and how much ETH will they get after take $10 from each person? I think it's enough for them to buy a new car or maybe something more expensive than that. LOL.

It is not a good idea to see ETH to receive the bounty token, no bounty will ask for ETH to receive the bounty. So it is always good to join the bounty because no bounty manager will ask for ETH for the payment.

i'm kinda agree with kyc system, that help to qualify a "real" bounty hunter. because so many imposter bounty hunter right now

Passing KYC does not guaranteed you more payments. Yes it is correct that some ico are doing it get rid of multi accounts, but having passed the kyc wont increase your payment in bounty as you have said this is for protection and not an additional payment. Also what the OP is trying to imply here is about the project need to tell the participants that kyc is needed before starting the bounty not after they finished the tasks.

it does not seem too important and should if you become a bounty hunter does not have to require ethereum first and do not hungry to send ethereum you have because bounty campaign it should receive payment instead of spending money.

Yes Im agree if there are any bounty programe required to pass the KYC, the should be announce when bounty just start. Because sometimes they are announce at the end of . And also I Have seen they are not allowed some country to participate. I know KYC is to protect from multiple account but it is unfair if we have to do the end of programe

I do not agree in this bounty campaigns where they asked eth as payment to recieve thier bounty tokens, i found out that these campaigns are scam.

IMO only scam bounty campaign of scam ICO project will require that. It's the reason why needmoney was tagged because of managing scam bounty campaign for scam ICO project. I think we should be careful before we join any bounty campaign. Don't forget to check everything about ICO project behind bounty campaign to ensure that we're not going to waste our time for a scam bounty.

Everyone hates it when managers change the rules. Specially so do to pay people as little as possible. We should talk about this more often and not participate in such projects.

People who agree to manage scam projects/bounties like this should be avoided at all costs.