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Post by: vintagetrex on January 16, 2014, 08:25:03 PM
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Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: affan on January 16, 2014, 08:26:58 PM
oohhh please ???


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: tk808 on January 16, 2014, 08:42:35 PM
So how much does 1 share cost?


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: tk808 on January 16, 2014, 08:47:29 PM
So how much does 1 share cost?

right now, with valuation of 83.33 BTC and 1,000,000,000 shares…
 
(83.33 BTC / 1,000,000,000) = 8.33 E (-8) BTC

And you got any proof that this project exists? Pictures/code/screenshots? Anyone can come-up with an elaborate scam, like this could be.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: MisO69 on January 16, 2014, 08:54:12 PM
When you give money to someone you normally know who that person is. So how about you divulge all of your personal details here. I mean after all, you want our money we should know who were giving it to.




Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: Nullu on January 16, 2014, 08:56:45 PM
Phantom Corp.

Irony falls on deaf ears.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: baishishi on January 16, 2014, 09:06:06 PM
How to prove that this is not a scam?


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: tk808 on January 16, 2014, 09:10:29 PM
So how much does 1 share cost?

right now, with valuation of 83.33 BTC and 1,000,000,000 shares…
 
(83.33 BTC / 1,000,000,000) = 8.33 E (-8) BTC

And you got any proof that this project exists? Pictures/code/screenshots? Anyone can come-up with an elaborate scam, like this could be.

This is not a currency.  It is not based on mass adoption and "faith" to receive value.  If the source code were finished I would not be offering this publicly.  

What do you want?  Video of me with drivers license?  Receipt from Legal zoom?  I cannot take all the risk out of your investment, but I am not going to run off with your money.  



A picture of your servers, a snippet of your code, office you're working at, fucking anything. Give some fucking evidence. Don't just come to these forums asking for a handout from investors. That's not how IPOs work in the real world.

I don't want your drivers license because those could be faked, i want to see real evidence this project is in existence. Surely you have something?


Yes, there is a likely chance you will. Amazing PR so far, just amazing.



Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 16, 2014, 09:16:10 PM
Phantom Corp Business Plan and IPO

The biggest difference between a distributed autonomous corporation and a company traded on Wal Street is the ability of a DAC to dodge regulation.  The most profitable DAC will be one that exploits this key advantage...

...Phantom Corp is the first proposal to use not one type of miner, but 3 different types of mining networks: Proof of Stake (general stock shareholders)
Proof of Storage (upload seeders), Users uploading information. The networks produced by this corporation will be deeply entrenched as a result....  
questions:

1. if this currency is to be distributed, then wouldn't it be contrary to your business model where Phantom Corp itself centralises the new files and information?  i.e. it will be a single entity, rather than a decentralised system, that will be paying out to storage miners?

...Patent Pending....
2. could you please provide the patent number issued for your pending application?  this is through USPTO, yes?  i was unable to locate your patent application based on the description alone.  

3. is this a utility patent or a design patent?

What do you want?  Video of me with drivers license?  Receipt from Legal zoom?  I cannot take all the risk out of your investment, but I am not going to run off with your money.  
 the patent number issued for your pending patent application will do for starters.  thanks.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: Nullu on January 16, 2014, 09:32:36 PM
good idea.  The paperwork is at my college dorm.  I will get it ASAP.  Until then, the youtube video will have to do.  I'm making it now.  

We can use a respected escrow if you would prefer. 

A respected escrower would certainty change things. You must be aware of the swathe of scam IPOs recently. It's not going to be easy to win people over without something to show for your claims.

I hope this is legitimate, but I am a cold-hearted cynic. I'll be keeping on eye on this one.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 16, 2014, 09:34:37 PM
good idea.  The paperwork is at my college dorm.  I will get it ASAP.  Until then, the youtube video will have to do.  I'm making it now.  

We can use a respected escrow if you would prefer.  
no escrow is needed as a pending patent application is public record.  thanks.

is your patent a utility patent, or a design patent?


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 16, 2014, 10:56:38 PM
signing off for now


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 17, 2014, 12:17:13 AM

right now its a provisional for utility patent.  It was filed around 7 months ago.  

edit: you file the provisional to show you had the idea and get a spot in line, then you develop the product more before filing the full patent.  You do this so your patent will be better and you can work out design flaws etc before filing the patent.  
i am aware of the patent process having developed several utility patents myself; if filed 7 months ago, the provisional application has 5 months remaining.  did you obtain the patent number?  Provisional rights can only be asserted if the provisional is published.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 12:52:40 AM

right now its a provisional for utility patent.  It was filed around 7 months ago.  

edit: you file the provisional to show you had the idea and get a spot in line, then you develop the product more before filing the full patent.  You do this so your patent will be better and you can work out design flaws etc before filing the patent.  
i am aware of the patent process having developed several utility patents myself; if filed 7 months ago, the provisional application has 5 months remaining.  did you obtain the patent number?  Provisional rights can only be asserted if the provisional is published.  

Yes, I obtained a patent filing number from the USPTO in an off white envelope.  I also published.  Seriously tho, y'all should worry less about the IP.  This is a file sharing corporation.  The whole point of this idea is that IP is unenforceable.  I designed a technology that would take advantage of the downfalls of government IP, then filed a patent on it.  It will help with adoption a lot tho, because it makes everything fine and dandy with the government and respectable.  

I have these ideas for a highly profitable corporation.  I can guide a team of developers on how to make this concept.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: markm on January 17, 2014, 02:20:48 AM
No sign so far though of a solution to the proof of storage problem which has been so often discussed but seemingly never adequately solved in a distributed way?

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 02:40:35 AM
YES!! we just got our first 1 BTC funding. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: LostDutchman on January 17, 2014, 02:42:40 AM
oohhh please ???

what does this mean?

"Pirate Bay" mean anything to you?

How about "Megaupload"?

Just asking.

My $.02.

;)


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: markm on January 17, 2014, 02:42:58 AM
Not sure how the zeroes come into it, that sounds like an attempt to do some kind of proof of work rather than proof of storage.

Who enquires of each purported storage node or device as to whether it still is storing what it purported to store, and how is consensus achieved regarding any claims as to whether or not any particular node is in fact still storing, and, probably more importantly, is still delivering upon demand, the material it purported to store?

All your "explanation" seems to say is once upon a time the node had the data, then it wasted time/energy doing a proof of work type hash looking for zeroes.

It says nothing about proving, 24/7, that the node still has the data nor that it is delivering it on demand at reasonable speed to anyone or everyone who requests it.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 02:50:37 AM
with our first fund received the structure is set as follows:

10% to first 4 BTC (funds 0-4 BTC)
        6% for first 2 BTC (funds 0-2 BTC)
        4% for next 2 BTC (funds 2-4 BTC)
50% to next 46 BTC donors  (funds 4-50 BTC)
   30% for 23 BTC (funds 4-27 BTC)
   20% for 23 BTC (funds 27-50 BTC)
20% to inventor and patent filer, me
20% to developers


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: tk808 on January 17, 2014, 02:51:51 AM
If this project had any merit or actual potential, they would not be on bitcointalk for an IPO investment. Specifically in alternative coins sections, because this has nothing to do with alt-coins.

Don't waste your money on a bunch of kids that are studying 24/7. This is a side-project at most.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 02:51:59 AM
Not sure how the zeroes come into it, that sounds like an attempt to do some kind of proof of work rather than proof of storage.

Who enquires of each purported storage node or device as to whether it still is storing what it purported to store, and how is consensus achieved regarding any claims as to whether or not any particular node is in fact still storing, and, probably more importantly, is still delivering upon demand, the material it purported to store?

All your "explanation" seems to say is once upon a time the node had the data, then it wasted time/energy doing a proof of work type hash looking for zeroes.

It says nothing about proving, 24/7, that the node still has the data nor that it is delivering it on demand at reasonable speed to anyone or everyone who requests it.

-MarkM-


exactly, the storage is proved over a period of work.  The text is randomized with encryption to prevent an attack. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 02:55:24 AM
If this project had any merit or actual potential, they would not be on bitcointalk for an IPO investment. Specifically in alternative coins sections, because this has nothing to do with alt-coins.

Don't waste your money on a bunch of kids that are studying 24/7. This is a side-project at most.

I'm doing school part time this semester.  This will not be a side project.  I will work on it constantly, even in my sleep. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: tk808 on January 17, 2014, 02:59:43 AM
If this project had any merit or actual potential, they would not be on bitcointalk for an IPO investment. Specifically in alternative coins sections, because this has nothing to do with alt-coins.

Don't waste your money on a bunch of kids that are studying 24/7. This is a side-project at most.

I'm doing school part time this semester.  This will not be a side project.  I will work on it constantly, even in my sleep.  

key word "will not."

I invest in people who are focused only on accelerating their product or whatever to the next level and not anything else that will hinter them from doing so.  

I will consider taking a risk on this project, because it intrigues me.

At this very moment, this is not a company that has proven the need for the product or even a small niche.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: markm on January 17, 2014, 03:05:14 AM
So delivery of the file on demand is neither tested nor proven?

Who gets to demand the node provide a new proof of work?

Who selects the purportedly "random" string the node is asked to use along with the file to prove it has the file?

What effect does the slowness or speed or failure etc of delivery of the file to end users have on all of that?

What measures are in place to prevent e.g. a botnet from flooding a node with demands for proof of storage of some file or other?

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 03:05:26 AM
If this project had any merit or actual potential, they would not be on bitcointalk for an IPO investment. Specifically in alternative coins sections, because this has nothing to do with alt-coins.

Don't waste your money on a bunch of kids that are studying 24/7. This is a side-project at most.

I'm doing school part time this semester.  This will not be a side project.  I will work on it constantly, even in my sleep.  

key word "will not."

I invest in people who are focused only on accelerating their product or whatever to the next level and not anything else that will hinter them from doing so.  

I will consider taking a risk on this project, because it intrigues me.

At this very moment, this is not a company that has proven the need for the product or even a small niche.

Haha fair enough.  For 1 BTC you can get 3%.  Hurry it might not last long.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 03:19:40 AM
So delivery of the file on demand is neither tested nor proven?

Who gets to demand the node provide a new proof of work?

Who selects the purportedly "random" string the node is asked to use along with the file to prove it has the file?

What effect does the slowness or speed or failure etc of delivery of the file to end users have on all of that?

What measures are in place to prevent e.g. a botnet from flooding a node with demands for proof of storage of some file or other?

-MarkM-


The nodes are in constant competition to prove their storage (based on an arrangement of proof of work similar to Bitcoin).  If they do not provide their own proof they do not collect the reward.  Nobody demands they do anything, they chose to do it for the reward. 

The node choses its own string randomly.  At best it can guess to solve the proof.  This is a property of crypto hash functions.  It cannot cheat by using a non random string because it cannot know what string to use to solve the proof. 

Say the block time is 1 minute.  The files are broadcast every minute.  Also, keep in mind a website will be built to serve as a portal to all this information, similar to http://www.chainbrowser.com/datacoin/files/ for datacoin.  Popular files will probably be stored for constant access by users, unpopular files you might still have to wait.  Without a website or something else performing this service, users might have to wait until a new block is found to get the files they want. 

Since this isn't the proof of storage proposed in the paper, it isn't based on producing the correct hash of a challenge string with your segments of the stored file.  People are not requesting proofs of storage.  The miners are in a competition to prove their own storage in order to collect a reward. 



Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: markm on January 17, 2014, 03:27:22 AM
So who checks their storage?

What happens if they publish a hash they claim is the hash of Tomb Raiders and it turns out not to be?

How often is that checked? How does the network reach consensus if someone claims the hash provided is not in fact the hash of the file it purports to be a hash of?

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 03:30:25 AM
So who checks their storage?

What happens if they publish a hash they claim is the hash of Tomb Raiders and it turns out not to be?

How often is that checked? How does the network reach consensus if someone claims the hash provided is not in fact the hash of the file it purports to be a hash of?

-MarkM-


the network checks their storage.  They can do this because they are already storing the file.  Also, it is very easy to check the storage because all it takes is a single hash: hash the file with the proof string and check that the output satisfies the requirement of zeros. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: markm on January 17, 2014, 03:31:54 AM
Okay so if my node does that, and notices that the node it demanded that proof from is lying, what then?

Who does my node report it to?

Does it broadcast to all the network a claim that the other node is lying?

What prevents my node making such broadcasts as an attack?

So far you do not seem to have solved any of the fundamental problems that have been discussed to death, you are just asking for money like any other bullshit scammer who has no actual solutions to offer.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 17, 2014, 03:47:28 AM

right now its a provisional for utility patent.  It was filed around 7 months ago.  

edit: you file the provisional to show you had the idea and get a spot in line, then you develop the product more before filing the full patent.  You do this so your patent will be better and you can work out design flaws etc before filing the patent.  
i am aware of the patent process having developed several utility patents myself; if filed 7 months ago, the provisional application has 5 months remaining.  did you obtain the patent number?  Provisional rights can only be asserted if the provisional is published.  

Yes, I obtained a patent filing number from the USPTO in an off white envelope.  I also published.  Seriously tho, y'all should worry less about the IP. This is a file sharing corporation.  

I am a prospective investor, so please do not arrogantly presume what i should worry about, and not worry about.  Please provide the Provisional Utility Patent number to show you're not blowing sunshine up everyone's ass.  

you claim to have published, so you've revealed your patent in the public record.

As markm stated you have not presented any information that shows you have anything novel, or solved any problem in a way that has already been done better. why don't i invest in some other 'file sharing corporation' e.g. one that is already established and profitable?  As an investor, the only thing you could present to me as novel would be enclosed in a defensible patent.  the only thing of possible value you've brought here is the patent. If i do invest, it will be in the strength of that patent.

Lastly, please note if you are falsely claiming patent status, you may be in contravention of 35 U.S.C. § 292 - "False marking.", and could be fined $500 for every occurrence of a false claim.  anybody that invests with you can also be fined and sued for that claim.  

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/mpep-9015-appx-l.html#d0e306213


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 04:25:58 AM

right now its a provisional for utility patent.  It was filed around 7 months ago.  

edit: you file the provisional to show you had the idea and get a spot in line, then you develop the product more before filing the full patent.  You do this so your patent will be better and you can work out design flaws etc before filing the patent.  
i am aware of the patent process having developed several utility patents myself; if filed 7 months ago, the provisional application has 5 months remaining.  did you obtain the patent number?  Provisional rights can only be asserted if the provisional is published.  

Yes, I obtained a patent filing number from the USPTO in an off white envelope.  I also published.  Seriously tho, y'all should worry less about the IP. This is a file sharing corporation.  

I am a prospective investor, so please do not arrogantly presume what i should worry about, and not worry about.  Please provide the Provisional Utility Patent number to show you're not blowing sunshine up everyone's ass.  

you claim to have published, so you've revealed your patent in the public record.

As markm stated you have not presented any information that shows you have anything novel, or solved any problem in a way that has already been done better. why don't i invest in some other 'file sharing corporation' e.g. one that is already established and profitable?  As an investor, the only thing you could present to me as novel would be enclosed in a defensible patent.  the only thing of possible value you've brought here is the patent. If i do invest, it will be in the strength of that patent.

Lastly, please note if you are falsely claiming patent status, you may be in contravention of 35 U.S.C. § 292 - "False marking.", and could be fined $500 for every occurrence of a false claim.  anybody that invests with you can also be fined and sued for that claim.  

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/mpep-9015-appx-l.html#d0e306213




Considering my invention is designed to replace copyrights, pay employees to open source their employer's trade secrets online, and allow micro factories to anonymously manufacture files off the web, I think false marking is the least of my concerns at the moment.

You do bring up a good point.  I would recommend investing anonymously.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 17, 2014, 04:30:18 AM
I have filed a provisional patent for a utility patent on an open source intellectual property system.  It is sitting in my dorm room 300 miles away.  

that's ok:  point us to the patent on the USPTO.gov website.  you do not need the patent number:  you can search with the keywords you provided the USPTO in your application.  

I would be doing this anonymously if it weren't for the fact that my name is on the provisional patent.  
You cannot simultaneously claim public protection from a utility patent and claim trade secret status.  it is one or the other.

you previously claimed to have posted your student ID and your driver's license.  you should have no problems with your name on a patent. 

Considering my invention is designed to replace copyrights, pay employees to open source their employer's trade secrets online, and allow micro factories to anonymously manufacture files off the web, I think false marking is the least of my concerns at the moment.
If you think that violating federal laws is not a concern, then this is a big sign that everyone should stay as far away from this 'IPO' as possible until you provide us with the legal documentation.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: thecoinjournal on January 17, 2014, 04:32:03 AM
How to prove that this is not a scam?

You cannot.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 04:41:56 AM
I have filed a provisional patent for a utility patent on an open source intellectual property system.  It is sitting in my dorm room 300 miles away.  

that's ok:  point us to the patent on the USPTO.gov website.  you do not need the patent number:  you can search with the keywords you provided the USPTO in your application.  

I would be doing this anonymously if it weren't for the fact that my name is on the provisional patent.  
You cannot simultaneously claim public protection from a utility patent and claim trade secret status.  it is one or the other.

Considering my invention is designed to replace copyrights, pay employees to open source their employer's trade secrets online, and allow micro factories to anonymously manufacture files off the web, I think false marking is the least of my concerns at the moment.
If you think that violating federal laws is not a concern, then this is a big sign that everyone should stay as far away from this 'IPO' as possible until you provide us with the legal documentation.  



1. No you cannot search on provisional patents

2. Thats not what I meant.  Obviously I would prefer to be anonymous while developing this because I do not want to be persecuted by the federal government for making innovations that limit their size.  I can't exactly hide from that persecution or say "it wasn't me" when my name is on a provisional patent mailed to them. 

3. Of course we will comply with all federal regulations. 

You seem like a good investor.  You are aggressive and focused with your judgement.  Its good that you can smell the score.  This could be a big one if we can get the dev team, and I think I have found them we just gotta put the deal together. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 17, 2014, 04:44:24 AM
1. No you cannot search on provisional patents

yes you can.  USPTO uses one public database.

http://portal.uspto.gov/pair/PublicPair


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 04:50:55 AM
1. No you cannot search on provisional patents

yes you can.  USPTO uses one public database.

http://portal.uspto.gov/pair/PublicPair

Even for just a provisional?  that site I linked to earlier said you couldn't search for provisionals.  

edit: also, I don't have the number with me now.  I will get it ASAP, but it is 300 miles away.  

is this article wrong?
http://patentfile.org/how-to-search-provisional-patents/

it says provisional patents are supposed to be kept secret.  CONFIRMED (I checked this on multiple websites)


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 17, 2014, 05:02:59 AM
it says provisional patents are supposed to be kept secret.  
Correct.  however, you explicitly stated:

Yes, I obtained a patent filing number from the USPTO in an off white envelope. I also published.

you have waived your claim to secrecy.  so, where is the published patent that you voluntarily published?




Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 05:05:36 AM
I was confused by your statement.  I have published some of the information for my idea because under new law your patent case is strengthened by publishing information.  I thought that was what you meant.  I haven't published the provisional patent.  

edit: wait so all this time you were trying to screw me by trying to get me to post a picture of my patent??


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 05:10:21 AM
When you give money to someone you normally know who that person is. So how about you divulge all of your personal details here. I mean after all, you want our money we should know who were giving it to.


edit: thats the information i can find on myself from google


Oh, what did you have to type in to find that information "fictional scammer school profiles with no picture to provide support to my poorly crafted story?" Seriously though, anyone who gives money to this clown deserves to lose it anyways.

+1 to kalus for calling out the bullshit ever so craftily.

edit: wait so all this time you were trying to screw me by trying to get me to post a picture of my patent??

and he can't "steal" your patent if it's already been submitted. But surely you'd know that if you were aware of how patenting actually works. I too, would like you to provide the patent number so I can review it in the public records database.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 05:13:56 AM
When you give money to someone you normally know who that person is. So how about you divulge all of your personal details here. I mean after all, you want our money we should know who were giving it to.


edit: thats the information i can find on myself from google


Oh, what did you have to type in to find that information "fictional scammer school profiles with no picture to provide support to my poorly crafted story?" Seriously though, anyone who gives money to this clown deserves to lose it anyways.

+1 to kalus for calling out the bullshit ever so craftily.

edit: wait so all this time you were trying to screw me by trying to get me to post a picture of my patent??

and he can't "steal" your patent if it's already been submitted. But surely you'd know that if you were aware of how patenting actually works.


how butt hurt are you guys that some stupid little arrogant kid like me has patent rights on the intellectual property system of the internet?  I THOUGHT OF IT FIRST HAHAHAH


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 05:16:21 AM
You file a patent on a single invention…

I file a patent on an entire intellectual property system with millions of inventions, copyrighted works, etc.

OWNED

I SHOOK UP THE WORLD.  I GOT SCREWED OVER BY BIG BUSINESS AS A 19 YEAR OLD AND I JUST OVERTHREW WAL STREET AND THE USPTO… AND I JUST TURNED 21 YEARS OLD. I MUST BE THE GREATEST!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 05:16:37 AM
Classy. Really showing all your potential ex investors out there what kind of person they are going to be trusting their money to. As he said, there's a reason you're trying to market this in an internet forum and not to a serious investment firm.  ::)


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 17, 2014, 05:17:17 AM
I haven't published the provisional patent. 

then why did you state:


Yes, I obtained a patent filing number from the USPTO in an off white envelope. I also published.

i'm asking for a copy of what you have published.  it is in the public record.  Every US citizen has the right to view this record. 

edit: wait so all this time you were trying to screw me by trying to get me to post a picture of my patent??
By publishing a patent, you have the legal protection of the law from someone taking your idea.  

for a patentable idea, publishing is your main legal protection.  By definition, patents are public information, so people know NOT TO INFRINGE on your patent.  

this is why coke doesn't patent their cola:  the recipe is a trade secret, and will never be published.  you cannot claim that you have a secret, and claim at the same time it is patent pending.  for someone who claims to have a patent you do not seem to understand why you have a patent.

because you were willing to provide your student ID and your driver's license before, you should have absoultely no issues with a patent that has your real name on it.  

I SHOOK UP THE WORLD.  I GOT SCREWED OVER BY BIG BUSINESS AS A 19 YEAR OLD AND I JUST OVERTHREW WAL STREET AND THE USPTO… AND I JUST 21 YEARS OLD. I MUST BE THE GREATEST!!!!!!!!

please put post your patent information, but after you've put down the crack pipe.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 05:24:13 AM
edit: wait so all this time you were trying to screw me by trying to get me to post a picture of my patent??
By publishing a patent, you have the legal protection of the law from someone taking your idea.  

for a patentable idea, publishing is your main legal protection.  By definition, patents are public information, so people know NOT TO INFRINGE on your patent.  

this is why coke doesn't patent their cola:  the recipe is a trade secret, and will never be published.  you cannot claim that you have a secret, and claim at the same time it is patent pending.  for someone who claims to have a patent you do not seem to understand why you have a patent.

because you were willing to provide your student ID and your driver's license before, you should have absoultely no issues with a patent that has your real name on it.  

I SHOOK UP THE WORLD.  I GOT SCREWED OVER BY BIG BUSINESS AS A 19 YEAR OLD AND I JUST OVERTHREW WAL STREET AND THE USPTO… AND I JUST 21 YEARS OLD. I MUST BE THE GREATEST!!!!!!!!

please put post your patent information, but after you've put down the crack pipe.

Also I was up all night last night and I am sick maybe with the flu.  I feel bad and my throat hurts a lot.  I have to go to sleep in a little, so I can get some rest.  I'm not thinking too well right now anyways.  

edit: the shook up the world stuff is alluding to muhammad ali


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 17, 2014, 05:25:34 AM
What do you even mean by this? I told you I don't have the provisional patent with me right now.  I told you that so many times already man.  Do you want me to provide details about my invention?

You volunteered that information by asserting "patent pending".  patented ideas are public ideas.  you merely have the privilege to use them for 20 years by the auspices of the US government.  

Yes, I obtained a patent filing number from the USPTO in an off white envelope. I also published.

i'm asking for a copy of what you have published.  it is in the public record.  Every US citizen has the right to view this record.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 05:26:54 AM
edit: wait so all this time you were trying to screw me by trying to get me to post a picture of my patent??
By publishing a patent, you have the legal protection of the law from someone taking your idea.  

for a patentable idea, publishing is your main legal protection.  By definition, patents are public information, so people know NOT TO INFRINGE on your patent.  

this is why coke doesn't patent their cola:  the recipe is a trade secret, and will never be published.  you cannot claim that you have a secret, and claim at the same time it is patent pending.  for someone who claims to have a patent you do not seem to understand why you have a patent.

because you were willing to provide your student ID and your driver's license before, you should have absoultely no issues with a patent that has your real name on it.  

I SHOOK UP THE WORLD.  I GOT SCREWED OVER BY BIG BUSINESS AS A 19 YEAR OLD AND I JUST OVERTHREW WAL STREET AND THE USPTO… AND I JUST 21 YEARS OLD. I MUST BE THE GREATEST!!!!!!!!

please put post your patent information, but after you've put down the crack pipe.

What do you even mean by this? I told you I don't have the provisional patent with me right now.  I told you that so many times already man.  Do you want me to provide details about my invention?

What he means by this is provide proof of work, proof of concept, proof that people who are interested in investing aren't investing in vaporware. Or you can just continue to try and deter people from the information that matters like most scammers do. If you want serious investors, be transparent. It's as simple as that. And if it's in your "dorm 300 miles away"....well then surely one of your roommates can do you a solid and go fetch the number for you like good lads.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 05:30:03 AM
edit: moved to original post (at the top)


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 05:32:23 AM
proof of work can be swapped for proof of stock.  sorry if its not too pretty I copied and pasted from MS word notebook layout.

The game theory analysis of how original content retains value is where the money is at.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 05:35:56 AM
So essentially you're a 21 yr old college student who has an IDEA, but no patent (since you refuse to provide the number which can be referenced by anyone). and you're asking for almost $42,000 for something that hasn't been tested and is solely your idea? Not to mention your outstanding ability to handle inquiries in the utmost levels of maturity. Truly overwhelming potential here. And you don't even have a development team!



All joking aside, buyers beware.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 17, 2014, 05:38:25 AM
SCARY WALL OF TEXT

Thank you.  you do not have a patent.

1. what is your patent classification? PC/IPC?

2. where are your inventors, with country?

3. who and where are your applicants?

4. who and where are your agents?

5. what was your filing date?

6. where is your filing abstract?  that alone would answer alot of questions without revealing ANY secrets.

etc. etc.  

it reads as an anti-establishment manifesto and not something that would be recognized as a defendable patent.  

I am thinking this is paraphrased from your so-called white paper.

remember, you have to be able to defend this in a court of law someday, because i guarantee your ass will be sued.  

Ergo, i reject your claim to 'patent pending'.

nothing to see here:  just a half-coherent whitepaper that will lead all investors off a cliff.



Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 05:40:22 AM
SCARY WALL OF TEXT

Thank you.  you do not have a patent.

1. what is your patent classification? PC/IPC?

2. where are your inventors, with country?

3. who and where are your applicants?

4. who and where are your agents?

5. what was your filing date?

6. where is your filing abstract?  that alone would answer alot of questions without revealing ANY secrets.

etc. etc.  

it reads as an anti-establishment manifesto and not something that would be recognized as a defendable patent.  

I am thinking this is paraphrased from your so-called white paper.

remember, you have to be able to defend this in a court of law someday, because i guarantee your ass will be sued.  

Ergo, i reject your claim to 'patent pending'.

nothing to see here:  just a half-coherent whitepaper that will lead all investors off a cliff.



+1 and case closed.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 05:50:06 AM
I'm conversing with a great dev team from MIT and RPI.  They're good and already working.  To be honest this will get made with or without investors. 

With investors we can go private with a 100% pre mined launch (kinda like Nxt), patent rights, and the correct distribution of coins to keep the network secure and working well with proof of stake. 

Without investors it gets made swapping proof of stake for proof of work with no pre mine. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 06:01:23 AM
SCARY WALL OF TEXT

Thank you.  you do not have a patent.

1. what is your patent classification? PC/IPC?

2. where are your inventors, with country?

3. who and where are your applicants?

4. who and where are your agents?

5. what was your filing date?

6. where is your filing abstract?  that alone would answer alot of questions without revealing ANY secrets.

etc. etc.  

it reads as an anti-establishment manifesto and not something that would be recognized as a defendable patent.  

I am thinking this is paraphrased from your so-called white paper.

remember, you have to be able to defend this in a court of law someday, because i guarantee your ass will be sued.  

Ergo, i reject your claim to 'patent pending'.

nothing to see here:  just a half-coherent whitepaper that will lead all investors off a cliff.



1. Don't know what pc/ipc is
2. I am the sole inventor from USA
3. I filed the provisional patent alone (is that what u meant?)
4. agents? I work alone and was unemployed at the time (student)
5. June 2013
6. I don't have one other than on my provisional application

My provisional application has the key information in it (multiple mining networks, claim specific currencies etc) but it does read like a crypto anarchist manifesto.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: markm on January 17, 2014, 06:04:00 AM
You still have not solved the problem of a user not being able to pose a viable proof demand without already being in possession of the data desired.

I get the impression you have not researched even the many discussions of distributed storage right here on this forum let alone the literature in general.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 06:05:43 AM
You still have not solved the problem of a user not being able to pose a viable proof demand without already being in possession of the data desired.

I get the impression you have not researched even the many discussions of distributed storage right here on this forum let alone the literature in general.

-MarkM-


Good thing the developers will have.  I'm just the visionary/idea guy. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 17, 2014, 06:07:19 AM
I'm conversing with a great dev team from MIT and RPI.  They're good and already working.  

you're fucked.

if you are working with Rensselaer, the idea belongs to the university.  

You should have kept it in the dorm.  the moment you involved a Rensselaer team or any external resources of RPI, the university asserts claim.  

this dorm scenario is explicitly discussed by Chuck Carletta, RPI's General Counsel on Intellectual Property.  

http://www.eship.rpi.edu/chuck_carletta_videos.php?cc_id=8


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 06:10:32 AM
I'm conversing with a great dev team from MIT and RPI.  They're good and already working.  To be honest this will get made with or without investors. 

With investors we can go private with a 100% pre mined launch (kinda like Nxt), patent rights, and the correct distribution of coins to keep the network secure and working well with proof of stake. 

Without investors it gets made swapping proof of stake for proof of work with no pre mine. 

Right there you admit to not having a patent, which just adds being a liar to your laundry list of red flags. Also, since your "invention" closely resembles NXT coin, there is no way a patent board will ever touch it unless the technology has existed independently for over a year. I'll just go ahead and quote the article you get your information from which opens a paragraph with this statement:

Quote
"Remember, you can only get a patent on an invention that is new and not obvious.  So you should really spend some time making sure that nobody else has created the same thing as you before you waste your time and money on filing a patent application."

This isn't my first rodeo.  I was inventing/thinking for Exxon Mobil URC when I was 19 and was younger than anyone in the URC by almost a decade.  My ideas are good, probably the best.  

Oh, so if you were inventing years before this then surely you have some other patents that are already published under your name. Reveal them, please.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 06:10:52 AM
I'm conversing with a great dev team from MIT and RPI.  They're good and already working.  

you're fucked.

if you are working with Rensselaer, the idea belongs to the university.  

You should have kept it in the dorm.  the moment you involved a Rensselaer team or any external resources of RPI, the university asserts claim.  

this dorm scenario is explicitly discussed by Chuck Carletta, RPI's General Counsel on Intellectual Property.  

http://www.eship.rpi.edu/chuck_carletta_videos.php?cc_id=8

Are you just trolling me now or what? I have not signed anything with them yet.  I will not be working with the University.  Also, I have not begun working with them.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 17, 2014, 06:11:42 AM
I have not signed anything with them yet.  I will not be working with the University.  Also, I have not begun working with them.  

I'm conversing with a great dev team from MIT and RPI.  They're good and already working.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 06:19:14 AM
I have not signed anything with them yet.  I will not be working with the University.  Also, I have not begun working with them.  

I'm conversing with a great dev team from MIT and RPI.  They're good and already working.  

I'll clarify, they are ready to code but haven't started.  They have reviewed a lat of literature.  It is still up in the air with them but they would be my first choice.  They are students not working with the university from my understanding, and they all live together. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 06:24:33 AM
This isn't my first rodeo.  I was inventing/thinking for Exxon Mobil URC when I was 19 and was younger than anyone in the URC by almost a decade.  My ideas are good, probably the best.  

Point in case, this is about proving yourself man. And if you're making bold claims like above, then you need to provide proof. If you're going to throw around that name, you better have some previous patents to back it up. Or are those still pending after 3 years? Even one patent with your name on it. It may sound like we're beating a dead horse, but clearly it is the simplest and most trustworthy way to gain people's trust especially if you're trying to get money out of them.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 06:24:55 AM
I'm conversing with a great dev team from MIT and RPI.  They're good and already working.  To be honest this will get made with or without investors.  

With investors we can go private with a 100% pre mined launch (kinda like Nxt), patent rights, and the correct distribution of coins to keep the network secure and working well with proof of stake.  

Without investors it gets made swapping proof of stake for proof of work with no pre mine.  

Right there you admit to not having a patent, which just adds being a liar to your laundry list of red flags. Also, since your "invention" closely resembles NXT coin, there is no way a patent board will ever touch it unless the technology has existed independently for over a year. I'll just go ahead and quote the article you get your information from which opens a paragraph with this statement:

Quote
"Remember, you can only get a patent on an invention that is new and not obvious.  So you should really spend some time making sure that nobody else has created the same thing as you before you waste your time and money on filing a patent application."

This isn't my first rodeo.  I was inventing/thinking for Exxon Mobil URC when I was 19 and was younger than anyone in the URC by almost a decade.  My ideas are good, probably the best.  

Oh, so if you were inventing years before this then surely you have some other patents that are already published under your name. Reveal them, please.

On my work as an independent...
I filed a provisional patent on a mechanical joystick with some amazing fields of equations and vector math involved in the invention.  I have only filed for provisional and not a full patent.  I have about 3 months left before I have to do so.  I probably will not because it is to make minimally invasive surgeries cheaper and more accessible to 2nd and 3rd world countries.  I can make a video where I show you this tomorrow.  The patent application for this is with the other one, in my dorm at school.  (its actually an apartment not a dorm).  

I have another invention that I have not disclosed to anyone nor filed anything on.  It is an electromagnetic generator.  I am not worried anyone will be able to invent it anytime soon, so it sits in a book and waits for me.

Before both of these I worked on microbial induced corrosion for oil and gas pipelines.  I came up with a fairly novel solution using sharkskin to prevent bacteria from colonizing the inside of the pipeline.  It wasn't novel enough to file for patent although it hadn't previously been used inside of oil and gas pipes.  
http://sharklet.com

Next y'all are gonna want to know about what my dad has invented.  


edit: addressing the first criticism.  I have said over and over that I do not have a patent.  I have filed for provisional patent.  It is not the same thing. Nxt doesn't have a system of currencies, claim specific coins, or more than one mining network. That is the majority of my invention.  Comparing a pure currency like Nxt to my crypto corp and intellectual property system is a joke. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: markm on January 17, 2014, 06:27:06 AM
You still have not solved the problem of a user not being able to pose a viable proof demand without already being in possession of the data desired.

I get the impression you have not researched even the many discussions of distributed storage right here on this forum let alone the literature in general.

-MarkM-


Good thing the developers will have.  I'm just the visionary/idea guy.  

Unfortunately your ideas are old hat, ancient ideas brought up over and over and over and over in many many threads even within just this forum website let alone across the whole distributed storage field the Open Transactions people's discussions and gosh knows where else.

So basically you are just a parasite trying to suck money out of other people's ideas without having a damn thing of use to contribute yourself except maybe if you can con money out of people - your main skill is presumably con-man aka fundraiser?

(aka scammer)

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: stuhlman on January 17, 2014, 06:27:45 AM
 ::)

http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2012/12-747-01/license.jpg

please send me 43 BTC to the bitcoin address in my signature , you will get 100% of the shares.

here is my white paper :

http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv183/tiarrabooh13/white-paper.jpg


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 17, 2014, 06:29:50 AM
I'll clarify, they are ready to code but haven't started.  They have reviewed a lat of literature.  It is still up in the air with them but they would be my first choice.  They are students not working with the university from my understanding, and they all live together. 

Thank you.

An IPO is based on the net worth of the company. 

you literally have nothing to invest in. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 06:29:58 AM
::)

http://www.t-nation.com/img/photos/2012/12-747-01/license.jpg

please send me 43 BTC to the bitcoin address in my signature , you will get 100% of the shares.


TAKE ALL MY MONEY!!!!!!!! DAT ASS THO!!!


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 06:31:09 AM
You still have not solved the problem of a user not being able to pose a viable proof demand without already being in possession of the data desired.

I get the impression you have not researched even the many discussions of distributed storage right here on this forum let alone the literature in general.

-MarkM-


Good thing the developers will have.  I'm just the visionary/idea guy.  

Unfortunately your ideas are old hat, ancient ideas brought up over and over and over and over in many many threads even within just this forum website let alone across the whole distributed storage field the Open Transactions people's discussions and gosh knows where else.

So basically you are jsut a parasite tryign to cuck money out of other people's ideas without having a damn thing of use to contribute yourself except maybe if you can con money out of people - your main skill is presumably con-man aka fundraiser?

(aka scammer)

-MarkM-


Haha ya of course my ideas have popped up over and over on this forum.  I posted them on this forum starting in June 2013.  The ideas were not here before that trust me.  They have popped up on this forum because I posted them on this forum!


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 06:32:19 AM

On my work as an independent...
I filed a provisional patent on a mechanical joystick with some amazing fields of equations and vector math involved in the invention.  I have only filed for provisional and not a full patent.  I have about 3 months left before I have to do so.  I probably will not because it is to make minimally invasive surgeries cheaper and more accessible to 2nd and 3rd world countries.  I can make a video where I show you this tomorrow.  The patent application for this is with the other one, in my dorm at school.  (its actually an apartment not a dorm).  

I have another invention that I have not disclosed to anyone nor filed anything on.  It is an electromagnetic generator.  I am not worried anyone will be able to invent it anytime soon, so it sits in a book and waits for me.

Before both of these I worked on microbial induced corrosion for oil and gas pipelines.  I came up with a fairly novel solution using sharkskin to prevent bacteria from colonizing the inside of the pipeline.  It wasn't novel enough to file for patent although it hadn't previously been used inside of oil and gas pipes.  
http://sharklet.com

So you're saying you have 0 patents under your name after 3 years of supposedly working for multiple multi-billion dollar corporations before you were even 20, and you claim yourself an inventor? Under those pretenses McGuyver was an inventor too....hell give me a rubber band and some paperclips and I can make one hell of a.....thing.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 06:35:06 AM
I have ideas to invest in.  You can take it or leave it.  I am going to sleep.  I am very tired.  We can continue tomorrow if you would like.  


Oh, we're leaving it alright. And we'd recommend to everyone to do this same. Unless you like to entertain us with some more of your wild tales of delusional grandeur.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 17, 2014, 06:35:31 AM
I have ideas to invest in.  

ideas cannot be protected. patents i can invest in.  patents are protected. 



Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: markm on January 17, 2014, 06:36:46 AM
Re-posting the same old crap from multiple other threads stretching over years in no way makes the ideas your own.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: flipstyle on January 17, 2014, 06:37:03 AM
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/d5/d5415d10e7e70b23cd922ab105170fc6e844f435cbb52b2f505469146401c66d.jpg

So much facepalm I don't even know where to start.


I haz a patent.

It's not searchable.

O u haz a search form?  Illegal methodz, brah.

lolnvm I'll show you.  Mah bad, just realized it's currently in my dorm room in Uzbekistan. Sowee.

Workin with Matt Damon from Goodwill Hunting and a gang of other ivy league scholars, they've already started.

haha just playin, they haven't technically started, I just know them intimately thru hours of wiki search




So yeah.  I guess we'll just all pre-emptively wait until the sucker who already donated 1btc steps forward 3 days from now bitching for his refund back on account of 'OP not keeping me updated zomg think i wuz scammed wat do?!?!'




Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 06:37:13 AM
I have ideas to invest in.  

ideas cannot be protected. patents i can invest in.  patents are protected. 



ok man well I'll get you the patent number ASAP, for now I am going to sleep.

Peace


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 06:39:15 AM

On my work as an independent...
I filed a provisional patent on a mechanical joystick with some amazing fields of equations and vector math involved in the invention.  I have only filed for provisional and not a full patent.  I have about 3 months left before I have to do so.  I probably will not because it is to make minimally invasive surgeries cheaper and more accessible to 2nd and 3rd world countries.  I can make a video where I show you this tomorrow.  The patent application for this is with the other one, in my dorm at school.  (its actually an apartment not a dorm).  

I have another invention that I have not disclosed to anyone nor filed anything on.  It is an electromagnetic generator.  I am not worried anyone will be able to invent it anytime soon, so it sits in a book and waits for me.

Before both of these I worked on microbial induced corrosion for oil and gas pipelines.  I came up with a fairly novel solution using sharkskin to prevent bacteria from colonizing the inside of the pipeline.  It wasn't novel enough to file for patent although it hadn't previously been used inside of oil and gas pipes.  
http://sharklet.com

So you're saying you have 0 patents under your name after 3 years of supposedly working for multiple multi-billion dollar corporations before you were even 20, and you claim yourself an inventor? Under those pretenses McGuyver was an inventor too....hell give me a rubber band and some paperclips and I can make one hell of a.....thing.

Exxon Mobil tried to fuck me over very badly.  My boss at Exxon was my dad's friend and wanted to use my previous work as Exxon's.  It pissed me off really badly and I stiffed them by not inventing anything for them.  I also had a friend's dad and grandfather (Joe Jamail II and III) offer to sue Exxon for me and my dad's hospital, Houston Methodist.  I declined.  

also, I was only at Exxon Mobil URC for 2 months.  I can't say I invented stuff while there because if I did and didn't give it to them its a breach of contract.  Let's just say I had a dull period of inventing while working there. 

Translation: I have never actually invented anything, but claim "my ideas are good, probably the best". SMH...this is truly comical.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 06:40:54 AM
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/d5/d5415d10e7e70b23cd922ab105170fc6e844f435cbb52b2f505469146401c66d.jpg

So much facepalm I don't even know where to start.


I haz a patent.

It's not searchable.

O u haz a search form?  Illegal methodz, brah.

lolnvm I'll show you.  Mah bad, just realized it's currently in my dorm room in Uzbekistan. Sowee.

Workin with Matt Damon from Goodwill Hunting and a gang of other ivy league scholars, they've already started.

haha just playin, they haven't technically started, I just know them intimately thru hours of wiki search


So yeah.  I guess we'll just all pre-emptively wait until the sucker who already donated 1btc steps forward 3 days from now bitching for his refund back on account of 'OP not keeping me updated zomg think i wuz scammed wat do?!?!'


If he wants his money back I will give it back to him.

I don't think he will.  What's with all the negativity? I just want to create something great.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 17, 2014, 06:41:28 AM
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/d5/d5415d10e7e70b23cd922ab105170fc6e844f435cbb52b2f505469146401c66d.jpg

So much facepalm I don't even know where to start.


I haz a patent.

It's not searchable.

O u haz a search form?  Illegal methodz, brah.

lolnvm I'll show you.  Mah bad, just realized it's currently in my dorm room in Uzbekistan. Sowee.

Workin with Matt Damon from Goodwill Hunting and a gang of other ivy league scholars, they've already started.

haha just playin, they haven't technically started, I just know them intimately thru hours of wiki search


So yeah.  I guess we'll just all pre-emptively wait until the sucker who already donated 1btc steps forward 3 days from now bitching for his refund back on account of 'OP not keeping me updated zomg think i wuz scammed wat do?!?!'


If he wants his money back I will give it back to him.

I don't think he will.  What's with all the negativity? I just want to create something great.  
oh crap sorry OP i didn't know i was supposed to play along for a few pages


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: hasar on January 17, 2014, 06:42:36 AM
Where's website?


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 17, 2014, 06:43:14 AM
Translation: I have never actually invented anything, but claim "my ideas are good, probably the best". SMH...this is truly comical.
hey you got what you asked for:  wild tales of delusional grandeur  ;D


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: markm on January 17, 2014, 06:44:08 AM
You don't want to create something great.

At best, you want someone else to create something great but take as much of the credit as possible yourself.

At worse you just want to scam money out of people with the same old same old "altcoin IPO scam" that is so fashionable lately.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 06:45:36 AM
Translation: I have never actually invented anything, but claim "my ideas are good, probably the best". SMH...this is truly comical.
hey you got what you asked for:  wild tales of delusional grandeur  ;D

Beats cable. ;)


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: flipstyle on January 17, 2014, 07:01:46 AM
A quick 5 second search on OP yielded these absolute gems.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252564.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253999.0

About the Author

     vintagetrex was the Xbox Live gamer tag of a 12 year old semi-professional Halo 2 player. Considered a prodigy by some due to his lack of online experience with Halo 1, vintagetrex was known for aggressive bxr combos and stylish head shots with the sniper rifle. 

     As an adult, the author has continued developing a unique skill set, including a freakish combination of logic and creativity.  The author's perceptual organization index tested at 99.7%, but he also draws immense creative inspiration from an onset of bipolar disorder. 

     After vintagetrex's first invention, which occured under the influence of LSD as an independent at age 19, he was forced into an unfair game dominated by corporate greed and lobbyists.  vintagetrex was crippled in his ability to promote his own invention due to the steep price of patent filings, legal fees, FDA trials, and getting non disclosure agreements signed.  All of these results stemmed from an intellectual property system claiming its sole purpose was the promotion of innovation.  Analyzing his own possibilities, he realized he had been thrust into a game where the only winning option was not to play.  "Write your inventions in a book and don't tell anyone about them."  The game had been made by greed to enslave young, creative minds; squeezing value out of them to boost corporate profits.  vintagetrex vowed to remake the game and turn greed against the oppressors of innovation.  He vowed to make big business the new slaves.  His creation was Anarcorp. 

Methinks one too many extinguished braincells lends itself to psuedologia fantastica in this case. 


Anyone else getting a strong The Talented Mr. Ripley vibe?  You know, minus the 'Talented' part....


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: stuhlman on January 17, 2014, 07:09:23 AM
Btw I did not invent anything for Exxon mobile neither, but also I did not invent anything for Apple, AT&T, and a load of other companies, in fact I did not invent anything, My lawyer wanted to take all these companies to court because I did not invent anything for them, but at the last minute my priest jumped in and said " Jebadaya, My Son, forgive them, holy holy Hallelujah, holy holy Hallelujah, holy holy Hallelujah,.... o.Ops where was I


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 17, 2014, 07:13:00 AM
Methinks one too many extinguished braincells lends itself to psuedologia fantastica in this case.  

perhaps this is the patent from june?  didn't know the us govt. did ASCII art.

_-+-__=88*<qm!mp>*88=__-+-__-+-__=88*<qm!mp>*88=__-+-__-+-__=88*<qm!mp>*88=__-+-_

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away…   ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)  It is a period  of civil  war.  Rebel  spaceships,  striking  from a hidden  base, have won their first
victory  against  the evil  Galactic Empire.  During  the battle, Rebel spies managed to steal secret plans to the
Empire's ultimate  weapon,  NSA  Datamining,  with  enough  power  to  destroy  all  privacy.  Pursued  by the
Empire's sinister  agents,  Nyan Cat  races  home  aboard her  Lulz Ship,  custodian of the  plans that can save
the people and restore freedom to the galaxy…………………………………….....................................…  ANARCORP

[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[ Claim Specific Coins ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)  A new currency is generated for each submitted claim. A  portion  (x) of the generated currency is
transacted to a wallet backing a general use, non claim specific currency. The  portion (1-x)  of  the  generated
claim specific currency is transacted to the wallet that submitted the claim.  Wallets are pseudonymous.


x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[[ Mining Networks ]]]]x]]]()]]]x]]]]()]]]x]]]()]]]x]]]()]]]x]]]()]]]x

 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)  Several categories of miners are used.  The  invention utilizes a resource of inventors, a resource
of  processing  miners,  and  a resource of memory miners. Memory  miners may be paid from (x) paid out as
inflation  over time,  according to the  portion  of the  memory  network  each miner comprises  for  the claim.
Processing miners are paid with inflation of the general use currency.  

_-+-__=88* ||qmVmp|| *88=__-+-__-+-__=88* ||qmVmp|| *88=__-+-__-+-__=88* ||qmVmp|| *88=__-+-_

"Meanwhile, the DEA  teamed  up with the  CCA  //  they tryin to lock us all up  //  they  tryin to  make us new
============ slaves // thats that privately owned prison // get your piece today"===============

x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[[()]]]]x]]]()]]]x]]]]()]]]x]]]()]]]x]]]()]]]x]]]()]]]x]]]()]]]x

By: vintagetrex
 

it's interesting how this scam evolved over time, getting bolder each iteration.

from OP's posting history, only today does he finally get the balls to ask for bitcoin.

markm implied this scam was a rerun, but was too classy a guy to drag up this fetid posting history.

OP good work: Your next scam will hopefully be more evolved than this one.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 07:52:54 AM
About the Author

     vintagetrex was the Xbox Live gamer tag of a 12 year old semi-professional Halo 2 player. Considered a prodigy by some due to his lack of online experience with Halo 1, vintagetrex was known for aggressive bxr combos and stylish head shots with the sniper rifle.  

     As an adult, the author has continued developing a unique skill set, including a freakish combination of logic and creativity.  The author's perceptual organization index tested at 99.7%, but he also draws immense creative inspiration from an onset of bipolar disorder.  

     After vintagetrex's first invention, which occured under the influence of LSD as an independent at age 19, he was forced into an unfair game dominated by corporate greed and lobbyists.  vintagetrex was crippled in his ability to promote his own invention due to the steep price of patent filings, legal fees, FDA trials, and getting non disclosure agreements signed.  All of these results stemmed from an intellectual property system claiming its sole purpose was the promotion of innovation.  Analyzing his own possibilities, he realized he had been thrust into a game where the only winning option was not to play.  "Write your inventions in a book and don't tell anyone about them."  The game had been made by greed to enslave young, creative minds; squeezing value out of them to boost corporate profits.  vintagetrex vowed to remake the game and turn greed against the oppressors of innovation.  He vowed to make big business the new slaves.  His creation was Anarcorp.  



If the OP actually wrote that about himself, then I actually start to feel a little bad knowing that we are playing off of his personality disorder.





but then I remember he's trying to scam us out of money and reason again washes over me. You know what, fuck it guys, I'm going to just go ahead and file a patent for the idea / process of patenting because it was solely my idea to create that patent. Neat!


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 17, 2014, 08:16:59 AM
If the OP actually wrote that about himself, then I actually start to feel a little bad knowing that we are playing off of his personality disorder.
but how do you know that part wasn't also concocted?

From the posting history, the scheme gets more polished and the claims bolder with each version he's posted.   this has/will cost someone money. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 08:19:53 AM
The only people who will lose money from this guy, especially after reading the last few pages of this thread, are just plain dumb.  :-\


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: LostDutchman on January 17, 2014, 08:48:22 AM
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll300/LucidFlight_album/rube-goldberg-1.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/user/LucidFlight_album/media/rube-goldberg-1.jpg.html)

;)


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: superresistant on January 17, 2014, 01:06:38 PM

You knew you would face critics with your project. They want proof of your claims before investing and that's normal.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: salsacz on January 17, 2014, 02:27:17 PM
trollcoin :D

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4542977#msg4542977

vintagetrex: you want to make a fork? you remind me of someone..


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 04:04:40 PM
Some potential investors want to use escrow.  Anon136 provides an escrow service on bitcointalk.  We could use him. 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3028

I will consider any reasonable escrow service offered.  The project should be ready in around 6 months. 

The plan:

- Post bounties for development team
- Have them code
- once majority of code is written file for full patent status (utility patent)

In the case of failure:
- unpaid bounties will be returned to investors
- source code for paid bounties will be returned to investors


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 04:59:18 PM
Yes, I once made a great breakthrough on my 3D mechanical joystick while taking acid.  My invention is named Lumsden's Steerable Device for a reason (LSD for you bone heads).  You found my original bitcointalk thread which should offer proof I was thinking about this idea months ago.  Obviously this is expected.  

I also included many details of my life.  I think people deserve to know what the person who invented the intellectual property system of the internet was actually like.  Manic depression, smoking pot, are all documented as well as high genius IQ and reasoning skills.  I was also gambling (Poker) daily at the time.  Since then I have gotten on medication, quit smoking, and I don't play poker anymore. There is a correlation between high IQ, creativity, and manic depression.  

Details of your life? How many job interviews have you walked into with "stylish headshots and LSD" on your resume? How many employers laugh when they see you put your previous professions as "semi-professional video-game player"? The only thing that excerpt shows us is that:
a. You have drug problems.
b. You have personality / mental disorders that exacerbate your delusions of grandeur and uncontrollable temper. Most likely related to this disconnect caused to doing too much acid.
c. You have money management issues and / or additional unhealthy addictions outside of drugs.
d. Narcisstic
e. You have no actual technical know-how to even begin to create a concept like this, let alone in a 6 month time frame with no developers.

When people reference your old threads, it's not to sing praise of your idea and how it's been around for over a year in multiple different forms, ranging from a cutsey ASCII art Star Wars-esqe manifesto to drugged-out "breakthroughs"....if that's what you'd like to call them. And yet, you refer to your "inventions" and admittedly don't own or hold any provisional or otherwise. Did Exxon start their own MK Ultra project because they realized you had such great potential they simply couldn't pass you by?

And yet, he's missing the most important (and simple) information of all -- name, patent numbers, etc.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: superresistant on January 17, 2014, 05:06:37 PM
Yes, I once made a great breakthrough on my 3D mechanical joystick while taking acid.  My invention is named Lumsden's Steerable Device for a reason (LSD for you bone heads).  You found my original bitcointalk thread which should offer proof I was thinking about this idea months ago.  Obviously this is expected.
I also included many details of my life.  I think people deserve to know what the person who invented the intellectual property system of the internet was actually like.  Manic depression, smoking pot, are all documented as well as high genius IQ and reasoning skills.  I was also gambling (Poker) daily at the time.  Since then I have gotten on medication, quit smoking, and I don't play poker anymore. There is a correlation between high IQ, creativity, and manic depression.  
Details of your life? How many job interviews have you walked into with "stylish headshots and LSD" on your resume? How many employers laugh when they see you put your previous professions as "semi-professional video-game player"? The only thing that excerpt shows us is that:
a. You have drug problems.
b. You have personality / mental disorders that exacerbate your delusions of grandeur and uncontrollable temper. Most likely related to this disconnect caused to doing too much acid.
c. You have money management issues and / or additional unhealthy addictions outside of drugs.
d. Narcisstic
e. You have no actual technical know-how to even begin to create a concept like this, let alone in a 6 month time frame with no developers.
When people reference your old threads, it's not to sing praise of your idea and how it's been around for over a year in multiple different forms, ranging from a cutsey ASCII art Star Wars-esqe manifesto to drugged-out "breakthroughs"....if that's what you'd like to call them. And yet, you refer to your "inventions" and admittedly don't own or hold any provisional or otherwise. Did Exxon start their own MK Ultra project because they realized you had such great potential they simply couldn't pass you by?
And yet, he's missing the most important (and simple) information of all -- name, patent numbers, etc.

You're just fucking intolerant. Hope your kids will get a mental disorder and drug addiction. You'll see how it's funny.



Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: Luckybit on January 17, 2014, 06:41:03 PM
Phantom Corp Business Plan and IPO


The inventor of Phantom Corp’s intellectual property protocol filed for provisional patent several months ago, and is first in line to receive patent protection on a novel use of cryptographic currencies.  Phantom Corp’s IP protocol will allow users from all over the word to upload files in order to receive a payment in currency.  

Why are you patenting? Don't you know patents are part of the problem? How do we know you're not a patent troll? Why should we trust you at all?


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 06:41:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=803lbJ6WYMA

I made a youtube video to discuss the philosophy of this system. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: Luckybit on January 17, 2014, 06:45:54 PM
How to prove that this is not a scam?
They believe the biggest advantage of decentralized autonomous corporations is the lack of regulation.

It is a scam. It's secretly promoted by the supporters of the RIAA to scam people who believe in intellectual property.

I wouldn't give these scammers a single Bitcent.



Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 06:51:29 PM
Phantom Corp Business Plan and IPO


The inventor of Phantom Corp’s intellectual property protocol filed for provisional patent several months ago, and is first in line to receive patent protection on a novel use of cryptographic currencies.  Phantom Corp’s IP protocol will allow users from all over the word to upload files in order to receive a payment in currency.  

Why are you patenting? Don't you know patents are part of the problem? How do we know you're not a patent troll? Why should we trust you at all?

I 100% agree that patents are part of the problem.  
 
1) to balance myself.  I didn't want to post my ideas on bitcointalk and be forgotten.  The patent at least means I could be recognized in some way.  People have a weird way of seeing another person's ideas, making the smallest change (which could even be a misunderstanding of the concept) and then believe they came up with the idea.  

2) to prevent someone else from getting IP rights.  If I didn't file the provisional then someone else could file for patent and claim my invention and disclosure of the idea was a "non inventor disclosure."  This is a law and loophole under the new US patent law (first to file rather than first to invent).  This is a loophole built in so that huge companies that are willing to pay massive legal fees can over ride any actual inventor or open source technology and get the IP rights themselves

3) I want the system to be anonymous and disruptive.  My worst fear is that someone makes my system and puts it under government control or makes it completely mundane.  I want my system to not be controlled by government or Wal Street.  Threat of patent rights means someone should make this anonymously and provide anonymity for its users.  I want anonymity because at one point in my life I was insane and a drug addict.  That fact shouldn't affect the adoption of a good idea in any way.  Also, anonymity will allow the system to be much larger by providing an outlet for disgruntled employees to open source and claim "internet patent rights" on their employer's trade secrets.  Threat of patent rights creates incentive to provide anonymity for its users.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 07:09:04 PM
From Wikipedia:

A disruptive innovation is an innovation that helps create a new market and value network, and eventually goes on to disrupt an existing market and value network (over a few years or decades), displacing an earlier technology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disruptive_innovation

I wouldn't make the blanket statement that patents are the problem.  Overall, protection *compensation* for innovators is a good thing.  Government corruption is the problem, and it is inevitable.  When governments control IP, it will always be corrupt.  

I would add another thing.  Its weird that I can work for most companies in the US and be paid to invent for them.  All they require from me is to write my ideas down on paper and hand the paper to them (while employed there).  Most of these places provide an incentive to do so, such as a $1000 payment for each patent application filled out. 

Why should we not be able to do the same thing for the public?  Is it not a service, is it not valuable, to come up with innovative ideas and release them to the public?  Of course it is.  Right now there is not much of a system that allows someone to do that. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 07:10:41 PM
How to prove that this is not a scam?
They believe the biggest advantage of decentralized autonomous corporations is the lack of regulation.

It is a scam. It's secretly promoted by the supporters of the RIAA to scam people who believe in intellectual property.

I wouldn't give these scammers a single Bitcent.



LOL this one is funny.  +1


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 07:42:16 PM
Yes, I once made a great breakthrough on my 3D mechanical joystick while taking acid.  My invention is named Lumsden's Steerable Device for a reason (LSD for you bone heads).  You found my original bitcointalk thread which should offer proof I was thinking about this idea months ago.  Obviously this is expected.
I also included many details of my life.  I think people deserve to know what the person who invented the intellectual property system of the internet was actually like.  Manic depression, smoking pot, are all documented as well as high genius IQ and reasoning skills.  I was also gambling (Poker) daily at the time.  Since then I have gotten on medication, quit smoking, and I don't play poker anymore. There is a correlation between high IQ, creativity, and manic depression.  
Details of your life? How many job interviews have you walked into with "stylish headshots and LSD" on your resume? How many employers laugh when they see you put your previous professions as "semi-professional video-game player"? The only thing that excerpt shows us is that:
a. You have drug problems.
b. You have personality / mental disorders that exacerbate your delusions of grandeur and uncontrollable temper. Most likely related to this disconnect caused to doing too much acid.
c. You have money management issues and / or additional unhealthy addictions outside of drugs.
d. Narcisstic
e. You have no actual technical know-how to even begin to create a concept like this, let alone in a 6 month time frame with no developers.
When people reference your old threads, it's not to sing praise of your idea and how it's been around for over a year in multiple different forms, ranging from a cutsey ASCII art Star Wars-esqe manifesto to drugged-out "breakthroughs"....if that's what you'd like to call them. And yet, you refer to your "inventions" and admittedly don't own or hold any provisional or otherwise. Did Exxon start their own MK Ultra project because they realized you had such great potential they simply couldn't pass you by?
And yet, he's missing the most important (and simple) information of all -- name, patent numbers, etc.

You're just fucking intolerant. Hope your kids will get a mental disorder and drug addiction. You'll see how it's funny.

I'm sorry, but I harbor no sympathy for mental disorders onset by drug use. And I especially don't harbor any interest in giving money to someone with a laundry list of problems like the above that generally are not associated with money management let alone any sort of investment vehicle. This idea sounded like something possibly worth investing in in the beginning, but clearly after divulging that the OP likes to blow smoke out his ass from the amount of bullshit he's been spewing, from falsely claiming ownership of patents to his childish outbursts, it is simply amazing that you would even consider defending this guy. But as they say, birds of a feather flock together and all that. ;)

All we were asking for is some legitimate proof that this is anything other than the workings of an insane person's fantasy world. In the meantime, you might as well pour gasoline over your life savings and set it afire, you'd be getting the same sort of ROI from this "IPO".


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 08:25:46 PM
grandeur? yes
delusional? no
addicted to pot? no
alcohol? no, it gives me terrible depression
other drugs? no
gamble? no not in almost a year and I only played poker (for three months)
debt? no
genius IQ? yes
have code written? no
have development team? no


I want to put a development team together to make this software.  Most of all, I want this concept to be made, even if it is by someone else, in which case I will return all funds.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 08:46:09 PM
oohhh please ???

what does this mean?

"Pirate Bay" mean anything to you?

How about "Megaupload"?

Just asking.

My $.02.

;)

yes, this is a system of currencies and coins used to pay the uploader of content and the seeders of content to something like the Pirate Bay. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 08:48:49 PM

Haha.  You are ignorant.  Bipolar disorder and drug use are correlated.  Bipolar disorder onset my habitual drug use (and I don't smoke anything or ingest anything illicit anymore), not the other way around.  If you think marijuana and 2 trips sent me over the edge, you're a moron.  Did I ask for sympathy? No. Also, notice I am letting escrow manage the funds if requested (and I think this is a good idea).  I have never falsely claimed ownership of a patent so fuck you.  I said I filed a provisional patent and I have repeated that over and over.  

Take your money and leave.  I doubt you were a potential investor to begin with.  Any previous investors (1) are welcome to ask for their BTC back and I will return immediately.  My guess is you are a Nxt supporter, and upset that financial investment will inevitably be removed from the development of innovations.  Cry me a river!  

Also, I am sorry for you.  Its obvious you never achieved your dreams in life.  You were clearly broken by a system into working a 9-5 for 30+ years as you watched your ideals and dreams washed away by a corrupt system of government run capitalism.  I don't want your sympathy, but I feel sorry for you.  You lived during a bad time. 

Clearly you have it all figured out.  ::) It is amusing to see what what kind of mud you fling when people call out your bullshit. Going from one personal attack to the next, based purely off of emotional imbalance. I wasn't trying to tear you down buddy, if that's what you got from all that. I am reposting the information you yourself wrote and defined as information that we the investors need to know. Not actual relevant information about anything, even the securities involved in an investment such as this. I only listed the information as why people would not want to invest money here. And clearly, after over a year of pitching the same idea under three names with noone (but a supposed single unknown and probably fictional investor) biting should be a red flag to someone with a little more common sense.

So go ahead, try to make more childish insults towards someone you know absolutely nothing about. This thread speaks volume about your character, and should you make any other threads attempting to push this scam, all anyone has to do is post a link back to this thread.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: markm on January 17, 2014, 08:51:50 PM
Either he is totally just an outright scammer or he has such total lack of understanding and knowledge of the field that he cannot even see how totally broken and flawed his "ideas" actually are. Either way, nothing to invest in here except for him to invest a few years in some serious education relevant to the field and directly of/within the field.

Basically he seems to want to raise money to finance a fairy-dust / wishing-well factory on some dream that fairy dust and/or a wishing well might, if enough money is thrown at it, give some profit for him even if it fails utterly to accomplish anything else.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: Nullu on January 17, 2014, 08:59:17 PM
I happen to know a bit about mental health.

I'm certainly not attempting to paint a stereotype, but Bipoplar Disorder does come with some rather unfortunate symptoms, including delusions of grandeur, and mania. In and of themselves these are not "bad" things, as much as any mental condition is neither good nor bad. It does, however, skew ones perceptions of reality and can quite severely distort the perception of ones ideas.

There is nothing wrong with dreaming big, but you must also back it up with hard work, commitment, and a sound basis in practicality. Ideas are cheap. I have some wonderful ideas. Amazing ideas, but they are not worth the paper they are written on. So worthless are they, in fact, that I never even bother to write them down.

Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration, and you have a lot to prove to show you have those qualities in sufficient supply.

I wish you luck.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 09:40:42 PM

Haha.  You are ignorant.  Bipolar disorder and drug use are correlated.  Bipolar disorder onset my habitual drug use (and I don't smoke anything or ingest anything illicit anymore), not the other way around.  If you think marijuana and 2 trips sent me over the edge, you're a moron.  Did I ask for sympathy? No. Also, notice I am letting escrow manage the funds if requested (and I think this is a good idea).  I have never falsely claimed ownership of a patent so fuck you.  I said I filed a provisional patent and I have repeated that over and over.  

Take your money and leave.  I doubt you were a potential investor to begin with.  Any previous investors (1) are welcome to ask for their BTC back and I will return immediately.  My guess is you are a Nxt supporter, and upset that financial investment will inevitably be removed from the development of innovations.  Cry me a river!  

Also, I am sorry for you.  Its obvious you never achieved your dreams in life.  You were clearly broken by a system into working a 9-5 for 30+ years as you watched your ideals and dreams washed away by a corrupt system of government run capitalism.  I don't want your sympathy, but I feel sorry for you.  You lived during a bad time. 

Clearly you have it all figured out.  ::) It is amusing to see what what kind of mud you fling when people call out your bullshit. Going from one personal attack to the next, based purely off of emotional imbalance. I wasn't trying to tear you down buddy, if that's what you got from all that. I am reposting the information you yourself wrote and defined as information that we the investors need to know. Not actual relevant information about anything, even the securities involved in an investment such as this. I only listed the information as why people would not want to invest money here. And clearly, after over a year of pitching the same idea under three names with noone (but a supposed single unknown and probably fictional investor) biting should be a red flag to someone with a little more common sense.

So go ahead, try to make more childish insults towards someone you know absolutely nothing about. This thread speaks volume about your character, and should you make any other threads attempting to push this scam, all anyone has to do is post a link back to this thread.

You can leave.  You insulted me repeatedly with ad hominem attacks.  You criticizing my insults of you is extremely hypocritical.  You should leave unless you have some personal stake in the failure of this concept. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 09:44:33 PM
Either he is totally just an outright scammer or he has such total lack of understanding and knowledge of the field that he cannot even see how totally broken and flawed his "ideas" actually are. Either way, nothing to invest in here except for him to invest a few years in some serious education relevant to the field and directly of/within the field.

Basically he seems to want to raise money to finance a fairy-dust / wishing-well factory on some dream that fairy dust and/or a wishing well might, if enough money is thrown at it, give some profit for him even if it fails utterly to accomplish anything else.

-MarkM-


Everyone has heard your opinion several times.  Your bias is very clear.  We know your opinion.  You may leave. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 10:00:44 PM

Haha.  You are ignorant.  Bipolar disorder and drug use are correlated.  Bipolar disorder onset my habitual drug use (and I don't smoke anything or ingest anything illicit anymore), not the other way around.  If you think marijuana and 2 trips sent me over the edge, you're a moron.  Did I ask for sympathy? No. Also, notice I am letting escrow manage the funds if requested (and I think this is a good idea).  I have never falsely claimed ownership of a patent so fuck you.  I said I filed a provisional patent and I have repeated that over and over.  

Take your money and leave.  I doubt you were a potential investor to begin with.  Any previous investors (1) are welcome to ask for their BTC back and I will return immediately.  My guess is you are a Nxt supporter, and upset that financial investment will inevitably be removed from the development of innovations.  Cry me a river!  

Also, I am sorry for you.  Its obvious you never achieved your dreams in life.  You were clearly broken by a system into working a 9-5 for 30+ years as you watched your ideals and dreams washed away by a corrupt system of government run capitalism.  I don't want your sympathy, but I feel sorry for you.  You lived during a bad time.  

Clearly you have it all figured out.  ::) It is amusing to see what what kind of mud you fling when people call out your bullshit. Going from one personal attack to the next, based purely off of emotional imbalance. I wasn't trying to tear you down buddy, if that's what you got from all that. I am reposting the information you yourself wrote and defined as information that we the investors need to know. Not actual relevant information about anything, even the securities involved in an investment such as this. I only listed the information as why people would not want to invest money here. And clearly, after over a year of pitching the same idea under three names with noone (but a supposed single unknown and probably fictional investor) biting should be a red flag to someone with a little more common sense.

So go ahead, try to make more childish insults towards someone you know absolutely nothing about. This thread speaks volume about your character, and should you make any other threads attempting to push this scam, all anyone has to do is post a link back to this thread.

You can leave.  You insulted me repeatedly with ad hominem attacks.  You criticizing my insults of you is extremely hypocritical.  You should leave unless you have some personal stake in the failure of this concept.  

oh please. This is, and has been from the start, your biggest problem. You take everything so personally and warp what anyone says into some sort of attack that noone is going to take you seriously. And that's not an opinion, that's a fact. Again, and I mean this in the nicest way possible, due to the complications from your life outside of this based on the information you provided as well as what you have displayed here in the thread I doubt that you will have the ability to cope with such a high-stress hobby. Think about a real world scenario outside of fantasyland for a few minutes -- let's say you get investors and your project gets created. You spent the money investors paid for a variety of things, namely paying the developers. But once your project is made -- what about a flop? Are you prepared to put yourself over forty-thousand dollars in debt? And what happens when angry investors come knocking at your door and you have your pockets turned out? What about civil cases? Judges? The lawyer fees alone would ruin you, guessing that you also have a variety of other bills to pay and a super sweet job being the strapping young lad you think you are. Open your eyes and wake up to reality, for your own sake and everyone elses'. That is, unless of course, this wasn't a scam. Which it almost certainly is. And really now, at this point it's safe to assume that you won't ever provide the information that's been requested because it simply does not exist outside of a .TXT document on your dorm computer. Really groundbreaking stuff here. Just make sure that when you're on your way down and out, that you don't try to take anyone with you because you could be held legally accountable.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 10:08:53 PM

Haha.  You are ignorant.  Bipolar disorder and drug use are correlated.  Bipolar disorder onset my habitual drug use (and I don't smoke anything or ingest anything illicit anymore), not the other way around.  If you think marijuana and 2 trips sent me over the edge, you're a moron.  Did I ask for sympathy? No. Also, notice I am letting escrow manage the funds if requested (and I think this is a good idea).  I have never falsely claimed ownership of a patent so fuck you.  I said I filed a provisional patent and I have repeated that over and over.  

Take your money and leave.  I doubt you were a potential investor to begin with.  Any previous investors (1) are welcome to ask for their BTC back and I will return immediately.  My guess is you are a Nxt supporter, and upset that financial investment will inevitably be removed from the development of innovations.  Cry me a river!  

Also, I am sorry for you.  Its obvious you never achieved your dreams in life.  You were clearly broken by a system into working a 9-5 for 30+ years as you watched your ideals and dreams washed away by a corrupt system of government run capitalism.  I don't want your sympathy, but I feel sorry for you.  You lived during a bad time.  

Clearly you have it all figured out.  ::) It is amusing to see what what kind of mud you fling when people call out your bullshit. Going from one personal attack to the next, based purely off of emotional imbalance. I wasn't trying to tear you down buddy, if that's what you got from all that. I am reposting the information you yourself wrote and defined as information that we the investors need to know. Not actual relevant information about anything, even the securities involved in an investment such as this. I only listed the information as why people would not want to invest money here. And clearly, after over a year of pitching the same idea under three names with noone (but a supposed single unknown and probably fictional investor) biting should be a red flag to someone with a little more common sense.

So go ahead, try to make more childish insults towards someone you know absolutely nothing about. This thread speaks volume about your character, and should you make any other threads attempting to push this scam, all anyone has to do is post a link back to this thread.

You can leave.  You insulted me repeatedly with ad hominem attacks.  You criticizing my insults of you is extremely hypocritical.  You should leave unless you have some personal stake in the failure of this concept.  

oh please. This is, and has been from the start, your biggest problem. You take everything so personally and warp what anyone says into some sort of attack that noone is going to take you seriously. And that's not an opinion, that's a fact. Again, and I mean this in the nicest way possible, due to the complications from your life outside of this based on the information you provided as well as what you have displayed here in the thread I doubt that you will have the ability to cope with such a high-stress hobby. Think about a real world scenario outside of fantasyland for a few minutes -- let's say you get investors and your project gets created. You spent the money investors paid for a variety of things, namely paying the developers. But once your project is made -- what about a flop? Are you prepared to put yourself over forty-thousand dollars in debt? And what happens when angry investors come knocking at your door and you have your pockets turned out? What about civil cases? Judges? The lawyer fees alone would ruin you, guessing that you also have a variety of other bills to pay and a super sweet job being the strapping young lad you think you are. Open your eyes and wake up to reality, for your own sake and everyone elses'. That is, unless of course, this wasn't a scam. Which it almost certainly is. And really now, at this point it's safe to assume that you won't ever provide the information that's been requested because it simply does not exist outside of a .TXT document on your dorm computer. Really groundbreaking stuff here. Just make sure that when you're on your way down and out, that you don't try to take anyone with you because you could be held legally accountable.

cool story bro..

read the part about escrow? read the part about allowing pledged funds where they hold their own funds and only pay once developers deliver source code? 

It would be pretty hard for that to be a scam. 
Thanks again for looking out for me man!  I'm sure you have the sincerest interest at heart.  You may leave now.  Bye bye


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: kalus on January 17, 2014, 10:25:13 PM
cool story bro..

read the part about escrow? read the part about allowing pledged funds where they hold their own funds and only pay once developers deliver source code?

cool story about the escrow, but did you read about the Galactic Civil War?

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By: vintagetrex






You still haven't produced your patent information, and you do not have the basic understanding of what a patent does, nor even the information you had to fill out on the form.

It's a comedy to watch you attempt to play the victim in this thread right now claiming people are using ad hominem attacks on you.  I'm not going to even address your claims of a biopolar condition because you haven't even addressed the basic claims of your IPO. 



Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 10:52:15 PM

cool story bro..

read the part about escrow? read the part about allowing pledged funds where they hold their own funds and only pay once developers deliver source code?  

It would be pretty hard for that to be a scam.  
Thanks again for looking out for me man!  I'm sure you have the sincerest interest at heart.  You may leave now.  Bye bye

"Hey bro, I run an escrow. Plus Bill Gates and Loyd Blankenship are on my dev team. They said they're going to program me a multi-billion dollar grossing project for free because they think my idea is innovative. But I want to pay them so I need you guys to give me 50 BTC and I'll give you the product once it's done."

^ See, anyone can do what you've done in this thread. Throw some names around, pretend you know what you're talking about, and hopefully someone even less informed (read as: suckers) buys into your laughable pitch.

I would be lying if I said I had your welfare in mind, moreso I like to help newbies from buying into a sinking ship like this one by exposing otherwise trash ideas and scam artists. And if you manage to save yourself in the process from financial ruin too, then kudos. Plus, what exactly would you escrow? In order for that to work, you actually need to have something to deliver to the person on the other end before the funds are released to you to insure that things aren't a scam. Since you have nothing to give other than a basic word document chances are you won't even be able to use one as thoughtful literature doesn't constitute valid collateral.

Provisional Patent number that can be looked up in the public records database that (yes) exists. Really it doesn't get any more simple than that aside from drawing funny little pictures like your original manifesto to demonstrate. And if you submitted a document with ASCII doodles to the patent board then please, I would love to see the letter of rejection as it would be worth the lulz.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 11:00:55 PM

cool story bro..

read the part about escrow? read the part about allowing pledged funds where they hold their own funds and only pay once developers deliver source code?  

It would be pretty hard for that to be a scam.  
Thanks again for looking out for me man!  I'm sure you have the sincerest interest at heart.  You may leave now.  Bye bye

"Hey bro, I run an escrow. Plus Bill Gates and Loyd Blankenship are on my dev team. They said they're going to program me a multi-billion dollar grossing project for free because they think my idea is innovative. But I want to pay them so I need you guys to give me 50 BTC and I'll give you the product once it's done."

^ See, anyone can do what you've done in this thread. Throw some names around, pretend you know what you're talking about, and hopefully someone even less informed (read as: suckers) buys into your laughable pitch.

I would be lying if I said I had your welfare in mind, moreso I like to help newbies from buying into a sinking ship like this one by exposing otherwise trash ideas and scam artists. And if you manage to save yourself in the process from financial ruin too, then kudos. Plus, what exactly would you escrow? In order for that to work, you actually need to have something to deliver to the person on the other end before the funds are released to you to insure that things aren't a scam. Since you have nothing to give other than a basic word document chances are you won't even be able to use one as thoughtful literature doesn't constitute valid collateral.

Provisional Patent number that can be looked up in the public records database that (yes) exists. Really it doesn't get any more simple than that aside from drawing funny little pictures like your original manifesto to demonstrate. And if you submitted a document with ASCII doodles to the patent board then please, I would love to see the letter of rejection as it would be worth the lulz.

I said people can pledge funds too.  Face it, you lost.  How will I scam people while they hold their own funds?  Beat it punk.  You will never be like me.  You are stuck in a small minded world. You cannot think outside the box.  You take out your frustration at the limitations on your own mind by putting down others with a superior thought process than your own.  LATER!!!!


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 11:06:44 PM
You cannot think like me.  My mind is very flexible and reasonable.  My combination of creativity and logic is unparalleled.  

edit: reasonable as in reasoning skills, the ability to bring the correct information to mind when needed.  I can solve problems.  

and

You take out your frustration at the limitations on your own mind by putting down others with a superior thought process than your own.  LATER!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder

"As mania becomes more severe, individuals begin to behave erratically and impulsively, often making poor decisions due to unrealistic ideas about the future, and may have great difficulty with sleep. At the most severe level, individuals can experience very distorted beliefs about the world known as psychosis."

That is why I don't really take any of your insults seriously because I know you have a condition. And not to put it on blast again, but you should probably slow your roll as you're playing into the stereotype so hard it's enthralling. Patent numbers please :]


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: flipstyle on January 17, 2014, 11:12:06 PM


The plan:

- Post bounties for development team
- Have them code
- once majority of code is written file for full patent status (utility patent)

In the case of failure:
- unpaid bounties will be returned to investors
- source code for paid bounties will be returned to investors

So let me get this straight.

You're going to use the potential 50btc from investors' pockets and use it to post bounties for the dev team.

Once the code is written, get the full patent.

However, if the project fails, you will somehow get a refund from the coding team upon their own good merit (perhaps they will LOVE the concept of having put in countless of hours of grueling work only to give up their compensation).  Then return the initial offerings back to the perspective investors?


Boy, this sure seems like a fool proof plan, bud.   I mean, God forbid the investors actually have to take as big a risk as you in this whole endeavor.  You're obviously the one putting yourself out there and stand to lose the most.  Amirite?


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 11:19:33 PM
You cannot think like me.  My mind is very flexible and reasonable.  My combination of creativity and logic is unparalleled.  

edit: reasonable as in reasoning skills, the ability to bring the correct information to mind when needed.  I can solve problems.  

and

You take out your frustration at the limitations on your own mind by putting down others with a superior thought process than your own.  LATER!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder

"As mania becomes more severe, individuals begin to behave erratically and impulsively, often making poor decisions due to unrealistic ideas about the future, and may have great difficulty with sleep. At the most severe level, individuals can experience very distorted beliefs about the world known as psychosis."

...And yet when I went to get tested by the doctor my reasoning skills capped the top of the IQ test.  And you can't tell anyone why it won't work, and its based on POW which is the basis for Bitcoin, and user Wolf0 says it works who has decades of experience in CS.  

You might want to start seeing a new doctor or get your money back then because you are extremely disconnected from the topic here. I don't know how to put this any other way -- noone cares about your intelligence, what tests you've taken, the gold stars you got in grammar school, or whatever other trivial information you like to provide to feed your own ego -- don't mistake this forum for your mum's tit.

p-a-t-e-n-t    n-u-m-b-e-r-s. ROI. Reports, charts, graphs, something tangible. A college fellow like yourself should know what these are by now.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 11:21:23 PM


The plan:

- Post bounties for development team
- Have them code
- once majority of code is written file for full patent status (utility patent)

In the case of failure:
- unpaid bounties will be returned to investors
- source code for paid bounties will be returned to investors

So let me get this straight.

You're going to use the potential 50btc from investors' pockets and use it to post bounties for the dev team.

Once the code is written, get the full patent.

However, if the project fails, you will somehow get a refund from the coding team upon their own good merit (perhaps they will LOVE the concept of having put in countless of hours of grueling work only to give up their compensation).  Then return the initial offerings back to the perspective investors?


Boy, this sure seems like a fool proof plan, bud.   I mean, God forbid the investors actually have to take as big a risk as you in this whole endeavor.  You're obviously the one putting yourself out there and stand to lose the most.  Amirite?

If the project fails part of the way through, the unspent BTC will be returned proportionately along with the unfinished source code.  Investors know they have to take a risk.  Thats what investing is.  I'm not saying this isn't a high risk.  Most Angel and VC funding is high risk.  I believe the reward upon success is very high.  Clearly I am also accepting risk in this.  Failure will not look well on me.  The coding team will not be returning spent BTC for their work as bounties.  They will provide source code for the bounties.  Suggestions on how to mitigate risk involved are welcome.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 11:26:14 PM

You might want to start seeing a new doctor or get your money back then because you are extremely disconnected from the topic here. I don't know how to put this any other way -- noone cares about your intelligence, what tests you've taken, the gold stars you got in grammar school, or whatever other trivial information you like to provide to feed your own ego -- don't mistake this forum for your mum's tit.

p-a-t-e-n-t    n-u-m-b-e-r-s. ROI. Reports, charts, graphs, something tangible. A college fellow like yourself should know what these are by now.

I explained the patent situation over and over already.  Keep acting smarter than me.  Everyone is getting a good laugh from it. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 11:41:28 PM
We raise another BTC! 2 BTC total for 6% of Phantom Corp!


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 11:45:22 PM
Ok, who are the donors? This can also be verified through your escrow service.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 17, 2014, 11:50:59 PM
Ok, who are the donors? This can also be verified through your escrow service.

Donors can put their names here if they like.  I am not going to post their names without their permission.  It would help fundraising if they posted, but that is not my decision to make. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: cthulu1 on January 17, 2014, 11:56:58 PM
Ok, who are the donors? This can also be verified through your escrow service.

Donors can put their names here if they like.  I am not going to post their names without their permission.  It would help fundraising if they posted, but that is not my decision to make.  

How thoughtful. Before you were throwing around everyone's name to try to prove you were legit so why do you hesitate now? You're not exposing anyone by posting their username from the forums here. I'm sure you will never invite them to this thread because if they read all of the shit you've posted they would most likely cringe. I would love to hear their input on why this still sounds like it's not a joke, and also to verify that they indeed have donated. Did you give them the form with the smiley faces on it too? Trying to convince people the validity of your project through words about phantom investors is hardly believable considering every word out of your mouth thus far has been a lie and, once again, doesn't amount to shit on the internet. And the info I'm asking for is public record so it's not violating anyone's rights and doesn't need permission to be posted.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 12:05:02 AM
Ok, who are the donors? This can also be verified through your escrow service.

Donors can put their names here if they like.  I am not going to post their names without their permission.  It would help fundraising if they posted, but that is not my decision to make.  

How thoughtful. Before you were throwing around everyone's name to try to prove you were legit so why do you hesitate now? You're not exposing anyone by posting their username from the forums here. I'm sure you will never invite them to this thread because if they read all of the shit you've posted they would most likely cringe. I would love to hear their input on why this still sounds like it's not a joke, and also to verify that they indeed have donated. Did you give them the form with the smiley faces on it too? Trying to convince people the validity of your project through words about phantom investors is hardly believable considering every word out of your mouth thus far has been a lie and, once again, doesn't amount to shit on the internet. And the info I'm asking for is public record so it's not violating anyone's rights and doesn't need permission to be posted.

Wait, are you saying you would like to invest? ;)


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: markm on January 18, 2014, 12:20:40 AM
It doesn't matter how obvious the scam, the morons around here throw money at the most pathetic transparent scams imaginable.

That is probably a lot of why the scammers just don't bother even pretending to not be scams they just go like whatever dude cool story and continue raking in coins.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 12:40:11 AM
It doesn't matter how obvious the scam, the morons around here throw money at the most pathetic transparent scams imaginable.

That is probably a lot of why the scammers just don't bother even pretending to not be scams they just go like whatever dude cool story and continue raking in coins.

-MarkM-


I can't believe you're a hero member.  How do you not recognize what I'm trying to do here as being legitimate?  If its so easy to scam then why would I bother putting my name and verifying my identity?  Duh.  You are going to feel so much pain if this project succeeds.  I feel sorry for you. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: cthulu1 on January 18, 2014, 12:56:43 AM
You are going to feel so much pain if this project succeeds.  

You could not stress this word enough.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 12:58:48 AM
You are going to feel so much pain if this project succeeds.  

You could not stress this word enough.

thats the nature of risk.  Anyways, I'm going to my dad's bay house pretty soon.  I'll bring my computer but I won't be as active on the forums for the next few days.  It should give you plenty of bait to yell scam. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: cthulu1 on January 18, 2014, 01:00:39 AM
You are going to feel so much pain if this project succeeds.  

You could not stress this word enough.

thats the nature of risk.  Anyways, I'm going to my dad's bay house pretty soon.  I'll bring my computer but I won't be as active on the forums for the next few days.  It should give you plenty of bait to yell scam.  

Risk implies there is some kind of reward to be had. Loss is the correct word you are looking for. You haven't told anyone what kind of gains they could expect on their initial investment. Or how you plan to even pay them, especially if the whole thing falls through. And no, investors will not want unfinished or unmarketable software. They will want fiat.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: kalus on January 18, 2014, 01:15:07 AM
Wait, are you saying you would like to invest? ;)
Show us something that is worth investing in.  your company as it stand now, is worth $0

exhibit A:  

they are ready to code but haven't started.
Valuation:  $0.

exhibit B:  

I have said over and over that I do not have a patent.
Valuation:  $0

the only thing you could possibly offer than every other file sharing site couldn't is tied up in your supposed 'patent'.  without the patent, there is nothing new about what you're saying.  If you have no patent another company will take whatever ideas you have and incorporate them into their operation which is already making money.  

As you have described in this thread, there is nothing that is worth investing!

come back in a year or two  when you do have the patent.  I invest in strong patents that can be defended in court.

come back in a year when you have a business plan.  I only invest in companies with a business plan for profitability.  This is not a charity.

come back in a year when you are turning a profit, and can show justification for your valuation.  I invest in companies that can show strong sales.

At this point, Your company is worth $0. no business plan, no net income, no cash flow, no IP or patent, no case study, no prototype.



Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: Nullu on January 18, 2014, 01:21:51 AM
Honestly?

I don't think it's a scam. I don't think the OP wants to steal any money. I think he genuinely believes in what he's saying.

Make of that what you will. Not that I'd invest even if it weren't, as I personally don't think the OP grasps the magnitude of what he wishes to accomplish. Even if the idea was viable, it would require an entire dev team, and right now the viability is near-zero. I'd love to hear what some other programmers thought. Peer to peer networking is way beyond my ability.

You're better off just paying to get a coin designed, 100% pre-mining the coin and selling off shares in at as a 100% PoS currency. People will pay whatever they think your ideas are worth, and then perhaps you may get some investment, but honestly, you'd need a lot more than some loose ideas.

Some honest and constructive criticism for ya.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: kalus on January 18, 2014, 01:25:17 AM
Honestly?

I don't think it's a scam. I don't think the OP wants to steal any money. I think he genuinely believes in what he's saying.

Make of that what you will. Not that I'd invest even if it weren't, as I personally don't think the OP grasps the magnitude of what he wishes to accomplish. Even if the idea was viable, it would require an entire dev team, and right now the viability is near-zero. I'd love to hear what some other programmers thought. Peer to peer networking is way beyond my ability.
The OP is making legal "patent pending" claims even though he doesn't know what it actually means.  

the OP is now claiming he doesn't have a patent, only a provisional one.  he doesn't know what that actually means either.  

the OP is asking people to invest in his 'IPO' even though he cannot justify his valuation.

the OP thinks that 'ideas' are the same thing as 'patents', and that somehow by suggesting escrow it creates value in a worthless company.

A profitable company is not based on ideas:  it operates on a business plan that outlines how they reach profitability.

no sustainable business model has been discussed. this isn't a coin, it is a company trying to IPO.

If the ideas are interesting, why not simply invest in another, existing file sharing company that will incorporate any good ideas into their business model?  there are lots of distributed storage companies that are already turning a profit.



Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: tk808 on January 18, 2014, 01:27:46 AM
Honestly?

I don't think it's a scam. I don't think the OP wants to steal any money. I think he genuinely believes in what he's saying.
The OP is making legal "patent pending" claims even though he doesn't know what it actually means.  

the OP is now claiming he doesn't have a patent, only a provisional one.  he doesn't know what that actually means either.  

the OP is asking people to invest in his 'IPO' even though he cannot justify his valuation.

the OP thinks that 'ideas' are the same thing as 'patents', and that somehow by suggesting escrow it creates value in a worthless company.

A profitable company is not based on ideas:  it operates on a business plan that outlines how they reach profitability.

no sustainable business model has been discussed. this isn't a coin, it is a company trying to IPO.

If the ideas are interesting, why not simply invest in another, existing file sharing company that will incorporate any good ideas into their business model?  there are lots of distributed storage companies that are already turning a profit.



the OP is a scam?

As i said before, your are investing in a bunch of college kids who are studying 24-7.

1) There is no market proof or even a proven niche. Just some paperwork that probably was a computer science project.

2) These kids have no marketing or business expertise from what i've seen.

3) They are not 100% dedicated or are relying on this project to succeed

I would highly caution investing in this.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 01:37:11 AM
Honestly?

I don't think it's a scam. I don't think the OP wants to steal any money. I think he genuinely believes in what he's saying.

Make of that what you will. Not that I'd invest even if it weren't, as I personally don't think the OP grasps the magnitude of what he wishes to accomplish. Even if the idea was viable, it would require an entire dev team, and right now the viability is near-zero. I'd love to hear what some other programmers thought. Peer to peer networking is way beyond my ability.

You're better off just paying to get a coin designed, 100% pre-mining the coin and selling off shares in at as a 100% PoS currency. People will pay whatever they think your ideas are worth, and then perhaps you may get some investment, but honestly, you'd need a lot more than some loose ideas.

Some honest and constructive criticism for ya.

thank you for providing constructive criticism.  

Anyways, I just got some bad news, someone on stack overflow just told me why my proof of storage protocol doesn't work properly.  That's a bummer.  

"Sure it could. If the file is the first part, you just compute a partial hash up to the point where C ends, and take a snapshot of the hasher state. You can toss out C at that point, and start from the saved state for each S you generate"


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: LostDutchman on January 18, 2014, 01:38:35 AM
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thank you for providing constructive criticism.  

Anyways, I just got some bad news, someone on stack overflow just told me why my proof of storage protocol doesn't work properly.  That's a bummer.  
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Surprise, surprise!

;P


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 01:48:56 AM

Surprise, surprise!

;P

LOL I know right.  The IP system is pretty legit but maybe it will have to work with proof of bandwidth, which I have no clue how to do (my CS skills are really limited).  I did read 5 textbooks on encryption in a row one time



Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 01:54:48 AM

For now, I am discouraged by the bad news.  Tomorrow I will be back at it.  If the 2 investors of 2 BTC want their money back, PM me and I will send it back.  I'm not giving up yet tho!  Also, I'm supposed to talk to assistant dean at LSU so I'm going back to Baton Rouge next week and will be getting the provisional patent (and yes, it is written similarly to a manifesto because I was stoned at the time.  It has the necessary stuff like claim specific coins and multiple mining networks etc, but I can clearly remember a rant or two about how IP should be free and that patent fees only helped people with money)


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: cthulu1 on January 18, 2014, 02:06:25 AM
Hey, at least there's always open mic night at your local comedy club.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: flipstyle on January 18, 2014, 02:09:22 AM
Anyways, if y'all still like the concept, check out my other scam thread about bitcloud that I'm about to post.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=419422.0

Will do.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 02:17:06 AM
Hey, at least there's always open mic night at your local comedy club.

thats what the internet is for!!


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 02:20:12 AM
Anyways, if y'all still like the concept, check out my other scam thread about bitcloud that I'm about to post.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=419422.0

Will do.

That thread could possibly be made by a scammer that isn't associated with bitcloud, but there are actual people making bitcloud that seem legit.  I found one on the internet searching for cloud storage coins about a week ago.  I put my ideas for the IP system in front of him:

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-vorick/6a/8a6/675


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: cthulu1 on January 18, 2014, 02:29:07 AM
Anyways, if y'all still like the concept, check out bitcloud.  they are some ppl from RPI and MIT making a cloud storage coin.  They say they don't need any funding.

Oh, that supposed team of devs you said were working with YOU?  ::)

I have not signed anything with them yet.  I will not be working with the University.  Also, I have not begun working with them.  

I'm conversing with a great dev team from MIT and RPI.  They're good and already working.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: romerun on January 18, 2014, 02:35:28 AM
piece of shit


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 02:47:33 AM
Anyways, if y'all still like the concept, check out bitcloud.  they are some ppl from RPI and MIT making a cloud storage coin.  They say they don't need any funding.

Oh, that supposed team of devs you said were working with YOU?  ::)

I have not signed anything with them yet.  I will not be working with the University.  Also, I have not begun working with them.  

I'm conversing with a great dev team from MIT and RPI.  They're good and already working.  

I said they would be my first choice to work with.  You can dog people with ideas and big dreams all you want but thats where all great revolutionary things come from. 

I went to this super preppy high school right?  One of my friends' dad is a multi billionaire.  (ok several of my friends dads but I won't get into that)  What makes this one guy unique is that he was born in the slums of Mexico.  Do you realize how crazy that is?  If you are born in the slums with nothing and no opportunity, you are literally 100% insane if you even think you will be a multi millionaire, nevermind a multi billionaire.  People gotta dream big man. 

Anyways,  you do realize my proof of storage probably isn't necessary.  I think it wouldn't be too hard to make a additional chains on the base datacoin block chain.  That's supposedly what the Datacoin dev is working on now.  Thats what I want to get made. 

Also, I have another business idea that would be much easier to do, but still very profitable.  You get down and you get right back up. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: cthulu1 on January 18, 2014, 03:00:45 AM

I said they would be my first choice to work with.  You can dog people with ideas and big dreams all you want but thats where all great revolutionary things come from.  

I went to this super preppy high school right?  One of my friends' dad is a multi billionaire.  (ok several of my friends dads but I won't get into that)  What makes this one guy unique is that he was born in the slums of Mexico.  Do you realize how crazy that is?  If you are born in the slums with nothing and no opportunity, you are literally 100% insane if you even think you will be a multi millionaire, nevermind a multi billionaire.  People gotta dream big man.  

Anyways,  you do realize my proof of storage probably isn't necessary.  I think it wouldn't be too hard to make a additional chains on the base datacoin block chain.  That's supposedly what the Datacoin dev is working on now.  Thats what I want to get made.  

Also, I have another business idea that would be much easier to do, but still very profitable.  You get down and you get right back up.  

I don't know about anyone else, but I for one would love to here another "business plan". Are there phaser guns and wookies in this one too?

Oh, I do love this little gem:

I'm going to go back and delete some of the stuff I wrote in this thread so I can still get a job when I finish school. lol

That's someone fearful of the poor choices they've made. Rule #1 of the internet -- once you post it, it's there forever. And that quote is solid proof because you'll never be able to delete it. Good luck getting anyone to trust you after reading something like that. Something I will be posting in your future scam threads. Cheers.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 03:14:41 AM

I said they would be my first choice to work with.  You can dog people with ideas and big dreams all you want but thats where all great revolutionary things come from.  

I went to this super preppy high school right?  One of my friends' dad is a multi billionaire.  (ok several of my friends dads but I won't get into that)  What makes this one guy unique is that he was born in the slums of Mexico.  Do you realize how crazy that is?  If you are born in the slums with nothing and no opportunity, you are literally 100% insane if you even think you will be a multi millionaire, nevermind a multi billionaire.  People gotta dream big man.  

Anyways,  you do realize my proof of storage probably isn't necessary.  I think it wouldn't be too hard to make a additional chains on the base datacoin block chain.  That's supposedly what the Datacoin dev is working on now.  Thats what I want to get made.  

Also, I have another business idea that would be much easier to do, but still very profitable.  You get down and you get right back up.  

I don't know about anyone else, but I for one would love to here another "business plan". Are there phaser guns and wookies in this one too?

Oh, I do love this little gem:

I'm going to go back and delete some of the stuff I wrote in this thread so I can still get a job when I finish school. lol

That's someone fearful of the poor choices they've made. Rule #1 of the internet -- once you post it, it's there forever. And that quote is solid proof because you'll never be able to delete it. Good luck getting anyone to trust you after reading something like that. Something I will be posting in your future scam threads. Cheers.

I'm not scamming bro.  Don't you get that yet?  I will return all BTC (2).


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: cthulu1 on January 18, 2014, 03:16:36 AM
I'm not scamming bro.  Don't you get that yet?  I will return all BTC (2).

Only time will tell. Give it a few months and I'm sure you'll have another thread for this under a new name.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: markm on January 18, 2014, 03:19:44 AM
Honestly?

I don't think it's a scam. I don't think the OP wants to steal any money. I think he genuinely believes in what he's saying.

Make of that what you will. Not that I'd invest even if it weren't, as I personally don't think the OP grasps the magnitude of what he wishes to accomplish. Even if the idea was viable, it would require an entire dev team, and right now the viability is near-zero. I'd love to hear what some other programmers thought. Peer to peer networking is way beyond my ability.

You're better off just paying to get a coin designed, 100% pre-mining the coin and selling off shares in at as a 100% PoS currency. People will pay whatever they think your ideas are worth, and then perhaps you may get some investment, but honestly, you'd need a lot more than some loose ideas.

Some honest and constructive criticism for ya.

thank you for providing constructive criticism.  

Anyways, I just got some bad news, someone on stack overflow just told me why my proof of storage protocol doesn't work properly.  That's a bummer.  

"Sure it could. If the file is the first part, you just compute a partial hash up to the point where C ends, and take a snapshot of the hasher state. You can toss out C at that point, and start from the saved state for each S you generate"

You hadn't figured that out yourself?

Go take a few years of relevant studies, as you obviously are just spewing garbage lies about the properties of fairy dust without even having any actual knowledge of fairies, dust, nor fairy dust.

The only difference between your garbage bullshit lies and a perpetual motion free energy machine proposal is less people know from the get-go that what you are proposing is something you cannot do.

Leave it to someone who can actually do it to worry about how to fund the doing of it, after they actually come up with a real viable way of doing it.

As I said there are years of discussions on these very forums deeply investigating how it could be done, none of which have yet reached an actual usable solution.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 03:20:33 AM
I'm not scamming bro.  Don't you get that yet?  I will return all BTC (2).

Only time will tell. Give it a few months and I'm sure you'll have another thread for this under a new name.

I PROBABLY WILL BECAUSE I AM NOT GOING TO GIVE UP.  

However, I have 2 BTC from 2 investors.  I will be sending it back to them.  I will ask them to post here to confirm they got their money back so you can realized I didn't scam anybody.  You should feel like an asshole once that has happened.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 03:22:30 AM
Honestly?

I don't think it's a scam. I don't think the OP wants to steal any money. I think he genuinely believes in what he's saying.

Make of that what you will. Not that I'd invest even if it weren't, as I personally don't think the OP grasps the magnitude of what he wishes to accomplish. Even if the idea was viable, it would require an entire dev team, and right now the viability is near-zero. I'd love to hear what some other programmers thought. Peer to peer networking is way beyond my ability.

You're better off just paying to get a coin designed, 100% pre-mining the coin and selling off shares in at as a 100% PoS currency. People will pay whatever they think your ideas are worth, and then perhaps you may get some investment, but honestly, you'd need a lot more than some loose ideas.

Some honest and constructive criticism for ya.

thank you for providing constructive criticism.  

Anyways, I just got some bad news, someone on stack overflow just told me why my proof of storage protocol doesn't work properly.  That's a bummer.  

"Sure it could. If the file is the first part, you just compute a partial hash up to the point where C ends, and take a snapshot of the hasher state. You can toss out C at that point, and start from the saved state for each S you generate"

You hadn't figured that out yourself?

Go take a few years of relevant studies, as you obviously are just spewing garbage lies about the properties of fairy dust without even having any actual knowledge of fairies, dust, nor fairy dust.

-MarkM-


This I cannot disagree with.  My experience with CS only started AFTER I INVENTED THIS IP SYSTEM.  I tried to learn as much as I could because I really liked the idea and saw its potential.  Obviously, I haven't learned enough CS yet!  Considering I am not going to be the developer this shouldn't be a huge deal anyways. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: markm on January 18, 2014, 03:23:49 AM
It is a big deal because you are proposing doing something that you are to ignorant to even know will not work.

Of course if you actually offer developers money to work on it, you can hire as many scammers as you want who can spend as many years as you want gobbling up the money pretending they some day might hear about a working solution, if one ever does eventually become possible.

Meanwhile you just serve as mouthpiece for a bunch of scammers who scam you out of money pretending to work on something they know they cannot Actually do, or a bunch of morons as idiotic as yourself who are also too stupid to realise they cannot actually do it.

Not being able to do the work is not reason for scammers to not accept free money though, of course.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 03:25:22 AM
I'm not scamming bro.  Don't you get that yet?  I will return all BTC (2).

Only time will tell. Give it a few months and I'm sure you'll have another thread for this under a new name.

proof someone actually gave me BTC. You can check the times with my claims of receiving funds.  Obviously this isn't 100% fool proof as I could have sent myself BTC to show you this but that would seem pretty silly.  

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/ca325fa8bceaa50e96a2d5dfc94c9bd897bc6ff32b27f022c07ea7f42bb631bc
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/e37f2fb3ea89ed7d318c114c23e5e45d7b5635f1aca55b42fe542424c3ef3928

I will ask them to post when they receive their refund but they might not.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 03:26:17 AM
It is a big deal because you are proposing doing something that you are to ignorant to even know will not work.

-MarkM-


You are too ignorant to realize that someone will solve this problem.  Likely within the next few years. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 03:26:44 AM
Don't you old people have anything better to do than be on this forum all day?!


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: markm on January 18, 2014, 03:27:31 AM
It is a big deal because you are proposing doing something that you are to ignorant to even know will not work.

-MarkM-


You are too ignorant to realize that someone will solve this problem.  Likely within the next few years.  

Yeah but not you, unless you scam millions or billions off of people so end up having such a massive fortune that who-ever does eventually come up with a solution decides to sell it to you instead of running with it themselves.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: cthulu1 on January 18, 2014, 03:28:23 AM
Honestly?

I don't think it's a scam. I don't think the OP wants to steal any money. I think he genuinely believes in what he's saying.

Make of that what you will. Not that I'd invest even if it weren't, as I personally don't think the OP grasps the magnitude of what he wishes to accomplish. Even if the idea was viable, it would require an entire dev team, and right now the viability is near-zero. I'd love to hear what some other programmers thought. Peer to peer networking is way beyond my ability.

You're better off just paying to get a coin designed, 100% pre-mining the coin and selling off shares in at as a 100% PoS currency. People will pay whatever they think your ideas are worth, and then perhaps you may get some investment, but honestly, you'd need a lot more than some loose ideas.

Some honest and constructive criticism for ya.

thank you for providing constructive criticism.  

Anyways, I just got some bad news, someone on stack overflow just told me why my proof of storage protocol doesn't work properly.  That's a bummer.  

"Sure it could. If the file is the first part, you just compute a partial hash up to the point where C ends, and take a snapshot of the hasher state. You can toss out C at that point, and start from the saved state for each S you generate"

You hadn't figured that out yourself?

Go take a few years of relevant studies, as you obviously are just spewing garbage lies about the properties of fairy dust without even having any actual knowledge of fairies, dust, nor fairy dust.

-MarkM-


This I cannot disagree with.  My experience with CS only started AFTER I INVENTED THIS IP SYSTEM.  I tried to learn as much as I could because I really liked the idea and saw its potential.  Obviously, I haven't learned enough CS yet!  Considering I am not going to be the developer this shouldn't be a huge deal anyways.  

Quite the contrary. Normally you need to have real knowledge and technical skills to be successful in life, but a young guy living with his parents still hasn't had to experience that reality yet. Aside from the acid trip, what do you think you really are contributing if you refuse to learn the skills necessary to even have a hint of an understanding of what's being developed?


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 03:33:20 AM
Honestly?

I don't think it's a scam. I don't think the OP wants to steal any money. I think he genuinely believes in what he's saying.

Make of that what you will. Not that I'd invest even if it weren't, as I personally don't think the OP grasps the magnitude of what he wishes to accomplish. Even if the idea was viable, it would require an entire dev team, and right now the viability is near-zero. I'd love to hear what some other programmers thought. Peer to peer networking is way beyond my ability.

You're better off just paying to get a coin designed, 100% pre-mining the coin and selling off shares in at as a 100% PoS currency. People will pay whatever they think your ideas are worth, and then perhaps you may get some investment, but honestly, you'd need a lot more than some loose ideas.

Some honest and constructive criticism for ya.

thank you for providing constructive criticism.  

Anyways, I just got some bad news, someone on stack overflow just told me why my proof of storage protocol doesn't work properly.  That's a bummer.  

"Sure it could. If the file is the first part, you just compute a partial hash up to the point where C ends, and take a snapshot of the hasher state. You can toss out C at that point, and start from the saved state for each S you generate"

You hadn't figured that out yourself?

Go take a few years of relevant studies, as you obviously are just spewing garbage lies about the properties of fairy dust without even having any actual knowledge of fairies, dust, nor fairy dust.

-MarkM-


This I cannot disagree with.  My experience with CS only started AFTER I INVENTED THIS IP SYSTEM.  I tried to learn as much as I could because I really liked the idea and saw its potential.  Obviously, I haven't learned enough CS yet!  Considering I am not going to be the developer this shouldn't be a huge deal anyways.  

Quite the contrary. Normally you need to have real knowledge and technical skills to be successful in life, but a young guy living with his parents still hasn't had to experience that reality yet. Aside from the acid trip, what do you think you really are contributing if you refuse to learn the skills necessary to even have a hint of an understanding of what's being developed?

thanks man.  try to keep in mind this is my 3rd invention in 3 completely different fields.  So sorry if I don't know everything there is to know in every single field I have worked in. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: kalus on January 18, 2014, 03:36:28 AM
I'm not scamming bro.  Don't you get that yet?

I have said over and over that I do not have a patent.

Phantom Corp Business Plan and IPO
Patent Pending

sorry could you explain how you're not trying to scam someone here?  'patent pending' does not mean what you think it means.  you're making false claims for legal status that contravene federal law.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 03:39:09 AM
I'm not scamming bro.  Don't you get that yet?

I have said over and over that I do not have a patent.

Phantom Corp Business Plan and IPO
Patent Pending

sorry could you explain how you're not trying to scam someone here?  'patent pending' does not mean what you think it means.  you're making false claims that contravene federal law.  

A provisional application for patent is a U.S. national application for patent filed in the USPTO under 35 U.S.C. §111(b). It allows filing without a formal patent claim, oath or declaration, or any information disclosure (prior art) statement. It provides the means to establish an early effective filing date in a later filed non-provisional patent application filed under 35 U.S.C. §111(a). It also allows the term “Patent Pending” to be applied in connection with the description of the invention.

http://www.uspto.gov/patents/resources/types/provapp.jsp

THANK YOU, COME AGAIN!!  you clearly don't have as much experience with patents as you claim


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: kalus on January 18, 2014, 03:40:37 AM
35 U.S.C. 292   False marking.
Quote from:
   (a) Whoever, without the consent of the patentee, marks upon, or affixes to, or uses in advertising in connection with anything made, used, offered for sale, or sold by such person within the United States, or imported by the person into the United States, the name or any imitation of the name of the patentee, the patent number, or the words “patent,” “patentee,” or the like, with the intent of counterfeiting or imitating the mark of the patentee, or of deceiving the public and inducing them to believe that the thing was made, offered for sale, sold, or imported into the United States by or with the consent of the patentee; or

    Whoever marks upon, or affixes to, or uses in advertising in connection with any unpatented article the word “patent” or any word or number importing the same is patented, for the purpose of deceiving the public; or

    Whoever marks upon, or affixes to, or uses in advertising in connection with any article the words “patent applied for,” “patent pending,” or any word importing that an application for patent has been made, when no application for patent has been made, or if made, is not pending, for the purpose of deceiving the public —

    Shall be fined not more than $500 for every such offense. Only the United States may sue for the penalty authorized by this subsection.
   (b) A person who has suffered a competitive injury as a result of a violation of this section may file a civil action in a district court of the United States for recovery of damages adequate to compensate for the injury.
    (c) The marking of a product, in a manner described in subsection (a), with matter relating to a patent that covered that product but has expired is not a violation of this section.

your 'patent pending' claim is only valid if you have published the patent.  If not you are in violation of patent law.  please provide the patent you claim to have published.

If you attempt to impose your patent rights on anyone at all, prepare to be sued.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 03:40:41 AM
I might not be the uber genius who solves proof of storage, I might not be the uber genius who solves proof of bandwidth…

but everyone here knows I am still smarter than kalus


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 03:42:00 AM
Also, I have returned 1 BTC.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: kalus on January 18, 2014, 03:47:02 AM
I might not be the uber genius who solves proof of storage
i hope you continue to develop your unique skill set including a freakish combination of logic and creativity, though.

About the Author

     vintagetrex was the Xbox Live gamer tag of a 12 year old semi-professional Halo 2 player. Considered a prodigy by some due to his lack of online experience with Halo 1, vintagetrex was known for aggressive bxr combos and stylish head shots with the sniper rifle.  

     As an adult, the author has continued developing a unique skill set, including a freakish combination of logic and creativity.  The author's perceptual organization index tested at 99.7%, but he also draws immense creative inspiration from an onset of bipolar disorder.  

     After vintagetrex's first invention, which occured under the influence of LSD as an independent at age 19, he was forced into an unfair game dominated by corporate greed and lobbyists.  vintagetrex was crippled in his ability to promote his own invention due to the steep price of patent filings, legal fees, FDA trials, and getting non disclosure agreements signed.  All of these results stemmed from an intellectual property system claiming its sole purpose was the promotion of innovation.  Analyzing his own possibilities, he realized he had been thrust into a game where the only winning option was not to play.  "Write your inventions in a book and don't tell anyone about them."  The game had been made by greed to enslave young, creative minds; squeezing value out of them to boost corporate profits.  vintagetrex vowed to remake the game and turn greed against the oppressors of innovation.  He vowed to make big business the new slaves.  His creation was Anarcorp.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 03:48:05 AM
A provisional application for patent is a U.S. national application for patent filed in the USPTO

“patent pending,” or any word importing that an application for patent has been made, when no application for patent has been made



What are you even talking about? Is english your first language?


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: kalus on January 18, 2014, 03:48:57 AM
A provisional application for patent is a U.S. national application for patent filed in the USPTO

“patent pending,” or any word importing that an application for patent has been made, when no application for patent has been made



What are you even talking about? Is english your first language?
so, where is your application number?  You didn't even know any of the information you needed to fill out the application!

you're required to produce this, especially when you're actively seeking investors claiming you have a patent.

the onus is on you to prove you have a patent, application, anything to back up your bullshit claim.

I have said over and over that I do not have a patent.

this indicates you don't have a patent after all.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 03:54:41 AM
A provisional application for patent is a U.S. national application for patent filed in the USPTO

“patent pending,” or any word importing that an application for patent has been made, when no application for patent has been made



What are you even talking about? Is english your first language?
so, where is your application number?

you're required to produce this, especially when you're actively seeking investors claiming you have a patent.

I have said over and over that I do not have a patent.

this indicates you don't have a patent after all.  


YOU ARE SO DENSE.  I removed "patent pending" just to please you.  You have to be trolling me right now.  Is this a joke?  



Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: markm on January 18, 2014, 03:55:56 AM
You also haven't even invented anything, all you have done is lied to a patent office, if you even did that much.

There is no invention, as you supposedly only recently learned what you propose does not do what you thought it would do - it does not work.

I guess you maybe invented a fictional thing, maybe, but that would come under copyright of a fiction, not under patent at all.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: kalus on January 18, 2014, 03:56:01 AM

YOU ARE SO DENSE.  I removed "patent pending" to comply with federal patent law
ftfy.



Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: cthulu1 on January 18, 2014, 04:01:25 AM
I might not be the uber genius who solves proof of storage, I might not be the uber genius who solves proof of bandwidth…
but everyone here knows I am still smarter than kalus

I think it's safe to say that you are none of the above. The fact that you keep going is painful to watch....like an animal trying to free itself from a bear trap.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:01:47 AM

YOU ARE SO DENSE.  I removed "patent pending" to comply with federal patent law
ftfy.


please include a link where it says that I cannot claim "patent pending" without the provisional patent application number


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: cthulu1 on January 18, 2014, 04:04:46 AM
Quote from:
   Whoever marks upon, or affixes to, or uses in advertising in connection with any article the words “patent applied for,” “patent pending,” or any word importing that an application for patent has been made, when no application for patent has been made, or if made, is not pending, for the purpose of deceiving the public —


In case you missed it and don't understand, it means that if you claim you have submitted an application and it has been published or is under review then there should be a reference number. If there's no reference number, the claim is false. You are on record in these forums claiming you have a patent and have used "patent pending" numerous times.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:05:35 AM
"However, you do not need to wait until you receive either of these. You are "Patent Pending" for one year from the date the Patent Office receives your application. When you mail your application to the Patent Office, I suggest that you mark your calendar for eight months down the road. During those eight months, you can market your device anywhere in the world and can make it "Patent Pending" and tell people that you are. DO NOT TELL THEM what type of application you have or the serial number or filing date of your application.

If they press you for that information, tell them that your patent attorney has advised you not to give out that information, and if they continue to press you, tell them to contact me and I will politely tell them that is is none of their business."

http://www.123patent.com/filingprovisionalform.html


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:07:25 AM

YOU ARE SO DENSE.  I removed "patent pending" to comply with federal patent law
ftfy.



do not quote things I did not say.  That is dishonest. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:11:04 AM
Quote from:
   Whoever marks upon, or affixes to, or uses in advertising in connection with any article the words “patent applied for,” “patent pending,” or any word importing that an application for patent has been made, when no application for patent has been made, or if made, is not pending, for the purpose of deceiving the public —


In case you missed it and don't understand, it means that if you claim you have submitted an application and it has been published or is under review then there should be a reference number. If there's no reference number, the claim is false. You are on record in these forums claiming you have a patent and have used "patent pending" numerous times.

you and your cronies are lying pieces of shit!!!!!


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:12:31 AM
GO TO HELL


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:13:34 AM
35 U.S.C. 292   False marking.
Quote from:
   (a) Whoever, without the consent of the patentee, marks upon, or affixes to, or uses in advertising in connection with anything made, used, offered for sale, or sold by such person within the United States, or imported by the person into the United States, the name or any imitation of the name of the patentee, the patent number, or the words “patent,” “patentee,” or the like, with the intent of counterfeiting or imitating the mark of the patentee, or of deceiving the public and inducing them to believe that the thing was made, offered for sale, sold, or imported into the United States by or with the consent of the patentee; or

    Whoever marks upon, or affixes to, or uses in advertising in connection with any unpatented article the word “patent” or any word or number importing the same is patented, for the purpose of deceiving the public; or

    Whoever marks upon, or affixes to, or uses in advertising in connection with any article the words “patent applied for,” “patent pending,” or any word importing that an application for patent has been made, when no application for patent has been made, or if made, is not pending, for the purpose of deceiving the public —

    Shall be fined not more than $500 for every such offense. Only the United States may sue for the penalty authorized by this subsection.
   (b) A person who has suffered a competitive injury as a result of a violation of this section may file a civil action in a district court of the United States for recovery of damages adequate to compensate for the injury.
    (c) The marking of a product, in a manner described in subsection (a), with matter relating to a patent that covered that product but has expired is not a violation of this section.

your 'patent pending' claim is only valid if you have published the patent.  If not you are in violation of patent law.  please provide the patent you claim to have published.

If you attempt to impose your patent rights on anyone at all, prepare to be sued.  

KALUS IS A LYING PICE OF SHIT.  SO IS HIS CRONY (PROBABLY THE SAME ACCOUNT) CTHULU1


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:14:32 AM
HOW DOES IT FEEL YOU DISGUSTING PIECES OF TRASH!!!!


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:16:10 AM
WOW, I JUST REALIZED KALUS AND CTHULU1 HAVE THE EXACT SAME NUMBER OF POSTS.  HMMM I WONDER IF THE ACCOUNTS WERE MADE TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME.  ITS PROBABLY SOME MODERATOR WHO IS PISSED THAT I HAVE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS ON MY INVENTION!!

THE GAME IS UP YOU DOUCHE BAGS. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:17:40 AM
Phantom Corp Business Plan and IPO

The biggest difference between a distributed autonomous corporation and a company traded on Wal Street is the ability of a DAC to dodge regulation.  The most profitable DAC will be one that exploits this key advantage...

...Phantom Corp is the first proposal to use not one type of miner, but 3 different types of mining networks: Proof of Stake (general stock shareholders)
Proof of Storage (upload seeders), Users uploading information. The networks produced by this corporation will be deeply entrenched as a result....  
questions:

1. if this currency is to be distributed, then wouldn't it be contrary to your business model where Phantom Corp itself centralises the new files and information?  i.e. it will be a single entity, rather than a decentralised system, that will be paying out to storage miners?

...Patent Pending....
2. could you please provide the patent number issued for your pending application?  this is through USPTO, yes?  i was unable to locate your patent application based on the description alone.  

3. is this a utility patent or a design patent?

What do you want?  Video of me with drivers license?  Receipt from Legal zoom?  I cannot take all the risk out of your investment, but I am not going to run off with your money.  
 the patent number issued for your pending patent application will do for starters.  thanks.  

documented


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:18:16 AM
good idea.  The paperwork is at my college dorm.  I will get it ASAP.  Until then, the youtube video will have to do.  I'm making it now.  

We can use a respected escrow if you would prefer.  
no escrow is needed as a pending patent application is public record.  thanks.

is your patent a utility patent, or a design patent?

documented


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:19:01 AM

right now its a provisional for utility patent.  It was filed around 7 months ago.  

edit: you file the provisional to show you had the idea and get a spot in line, then you develop the product more before filing the full patent.  You do this so your patent will be better and you can work out design flaws etc before filing the patent.  
i am aware of the patent process having developed several utility patents myself; if filed 7 months ago, the provisional application has 5 months remaining.  did you obtain the patent number?  Provisional rights can only be asserted if the provisional is published.  

documented


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: cthulu1 on January 18, 2014, 04:20:39 AM
Need help? In the U.S., call 1-800-273-8255
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline.
http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/

Just calm down, it's not the end of the world.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:20:44 AM

right now its a provisional for utility patent.  It was filed around 7 months ago.  

edit: you file the provisional to show you had the idea and get a spot in line, then you develop the product more before filing the full patent.  You do this so your patent will be better and you can work out design flaws etc before filing the patent.  
i am aware of the patent process having developed several utility patents myself; if filed 7 months ago, the provisional application has 5 months remaining.  did you obtain the patent number?  Provisional rights can only be asserted if the provisional is published.  

Yes, I obtained a patent filing number from the USPTO in an off white envelope.  I also published.  Seriously tho, y'all should worry less about the IP. This is a file sharing corporation.  

I am a prospective investor, so please do not arrogantly presume what i should worry about, and not worry about.  Please provide the Provisional Utility Patent number to show you're not blowing sunshine up everyone's ass.  

you claim to have published, so you've revealed your patent in the public record.

As markm stated you have not presented any information that shows you have anything novel, or solved any problem in a way that has already been done better. why don't i invest in some other 'file sharing corporation' e.g. one that is already established and profitable?  As an investor, the only thing you could present to me as novel would be enclosed in a defensible patent.  the only thing of possible value you've brought here is the patent. If i do invest, it will be in the strength of that patent.

Lastly, please note if you are falsely claiming patent status, you may be in contravention of 35 U.S.C. § 292 - "False marking.", and could be fined $500 for every occurrence of a false claim.  anybody that invests with you can also be fined and sued for that claim.  

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/mpep-9015-appx-l.html#d0e306213


documented


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:22:27 AM
I have filed a provisional patent for a utility patent on an open source intellectual property system.  It is sitting in my dorm room 300 miles away.  

that's ok:  point us to the patent on the USPTO.gov website.  you do not need the patent number:  you can search with the keywords you provided the USPTO in your application.  

I would be doing this anonymously if it weren't for the fact that my name is on the provisional patent.  
You cannot simultaneously claim public protection from a utility patent and claim trade secret status.  it is one or the other.

you previously claimed to have posted your student ID and your driver's license.  you should have no problems with your name on a patent. 

Considering my invention is designed to replace copyrights, pay employees to open source their employer's trade secrets online, and allow micro factories to anonymously manufacture files off the web, I think false marking is the least of my concerns at the moment.
If you think that violating federal laws is not a concern, then this is a big sign that everyone should stay as far away from this 'IPO' as possible until you provide us with the legal documentation.  


documented


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:23:30 AM
What do you even mean by this? I told you I don't have the provisional patent with me right now.  I told you that so many times already man.  Do you want me to provide details about my invention?

You volunteered that information by asserting "patent pending".  patented ideas are public ideas.  you merely have the privilege to use them for 20 years by the auspices of the US government.  

Yes, I obtained a patent filing number from the USPTO in an off white envelope. I also published.

i'm asking for a copy of what you have published.  it is in the public record.  Every US citizen has the right to view this record.  

documented


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:23:49 AM
I'm conversing with a great dev team from MIT and RPI.  They're good and already working.  To be honest this will get made with or without investors. 

With investors we can go private with a 100% pre mined launch (kinda like Nxt), patent rights, and the correct distribution of coins to keep the network secure and working well with proof of stake. 

Without investors it gets made swapping proof of stake for proof of work with no pre mine. 

Right there you admit to not having a patent, which just adds being a liar to your laundry list of red flags. Also, since your "invention" closely resembles NXT coin, there is no way a patent board will ever touch it unless the technology has existed independently for over a year. I'll just go ahead and quote the article you get your information from which opens a paragraph with this statement:

Quote
"Remember, you can only get a patent on an invention that is new and not obvious.  So you should really spend some time making sure that nobody else has created the same thing as you before you waste your time and money on filing a patent application."

This isn't my first rodeo.  I was inventing/thinking for Exxon Mobil URC when I was 19 and was younger than anyone in the URC by almost a decade.  My ideas are good, probably the best.  

Oh, so if you were inventing years before this then surely you have some other patents that are already published under your name. Reveal them, please.

documented


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:24:15 AM
I'm conversing with a great dev team from MIT and RPI.  They're good and already working.  To be honest this will get made with or without investors. 

With investors we can go private with a 100% pre mined launch (kinda like Nxt), patent rights, and the correct distribution of coins to keep the network secure and working well with proof of stake. 

Without investors it gets made swapping proof of stake for proof of work with no pre mine. 

Right there you admit to not having a patent, which just adds being a liar to your laundry list of red flags. Also, since your "invention" closely resembles NXT coin, there is no way a patent board will ever touch it unless the technology has existed independently for over a year. I'll just go ahead and quote the article you get your information from which opens a paragraph with this statement:

Quote
"Remember, you can only get a patent on an invention that is new and not obvious.  So you should really spend some time making sure that nobody else has created the same thing as you before you waste your time and money on filing a patent application."

This isn't my first rodeo.  I was inventing/thinking for Exxon Mobil URC when I was 19 and was younger than anyone in the URC by almost a decade.  My ideas are good, probably the best.  

Oh, so if you were inventing years before this then surely you have some other patents that are already published under your name. Reveal them, please.

documented


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:24:56 AM
This isn't my first rodeo.  I was inventing/thinking for Exxon Mobil URC when I was 19 and was younger than anyone in the URC by almost a decade.  My ideas are good, probably the best.  

Point in case, this is about proving yourself man. And if you're making bold claims like above, then you need to provide proof. If you're going to throw around that name, you better have some previous patents to back it up. Or are those still pending after 3 years? Even one patent with your name on it. It may sound like we're beating a dead horse, but clearly it is the simplest and most trustworthy way to gain people's trust especially if you're trying to get money out of them.

documented


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:25:32 AM

On my work as an independent...
I filed a provisional patent on a mechanical joystick with some amazing fields of equations and vector math involved in the invention.  I have only filed for provisional and not a full patent.  I have about 3 months left before I have to do so.  I probably will not because it is to make minimally invasive surgeries cheaper and more accessible to 2nd and 3rd world countries.  I can make a video where I show you this tomorrow.  The patent application for this is with the other one, in my dorm at school.  (its actually an apartment not a dorm).  

I have another invention that I have not disclosed to anyone nor filed anything on.  It is an electromagnetic generator.  I am not worried anyone will be able to invent it anytime soon, so it sits in a book and waits for me.

Before both of these I worked on microbial induced corrosion for oil and gas pipelines.  I came up with a fairly novel solution using sharkskin to prevent bacteria from colonizing the inside of the pipeline.  It wasn't novel enough to file for patent although it hadn't previously been used inside of oil and gas pipes.  
http://sharklet.com

So you're saying you have 0 patents under your name after 3 years of supposedly working for multiple multi-billion dollar corporations before you were even 20, and you claim yourself an inventor? Under those pretenses McGuyver was an inventor too....hell give me a rubber band and some paperclips and I can make one hell of a.....thing.

documented


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:30:00 AM
cool story bro..

read the part about escrow? read the part about allowing pledged funds where they hold their own funds and only pay once developers deliver source code?

cool story about the escrow, but did you read about the Galactic Civil War?

_-+-__=88*<qm!mp>*88=__-+-__-+-__=88*<qm!mp>*88=__-+-__-+-__=88*<qm!mp>*88=__-+-_

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away…   ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)  It is a period  of civil  war.  Rebel  spaceships,  striking  from a hidden  base, have won their first
victory  against  the evil  Galactic Empire.  During  the battle, Rebel spies managed to steal secret plans to the
Empire's ultimate  weapon,  NSA  Datamining,  with  enough  power  to  destroy  all  privacy.  Pursued  by the
Empire's sinister  agents,  Nyan Cat  races  home  aboard her  Lulz Ship,  custodian of the  plans that can save
the people and restore freedom to the galaxy…………………………………….....................................…  ANARCORP

[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[ Claim Specific Coins ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)  A new currency is generated for each submitted claim. A  portion  (x) of the generated currency is
transacted to a wallet backing a general use, non claim specific currency. The  portion (1-x)  of  the  generated
claim specific currency is transacted to the wallet that submitted the claim.  Wallets are pseudonymous.


x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[[ Mining Networks ]]]]x]]]()]]]x]]]]()]]]x]]]()]]]x]]]()]]]x]]]()]]]x

 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)  ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)  Several categories of miners are used.  The  invention utilizes a resource of inventors, a resource
of  processing  miners,  and  a resource of memory miners. Memory  miners may be paid from (x) paid out as
inflation  over time,  according to the  portion  of the  memory  network  each miner comprises  for  the claim.
Processing miners are paid with inflation of the general use currency.  

_-+-__=88* ||qmVmp|| *88=__-+-__-+-__=88* ||qmVmp|| *88=__-+-__-+-__=88* ||qmVmp|| *88=__-+-_

"Meanwhile, the DEA  teamed  up with the  CCA  //  they tryin to lock us all up  //  they  tryin to  make us new
============ slaves // thats that privately owned prison // get your piece today"===============

x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[()[[[x[[[[()]]]]x]]]()]]]x]]]]()]]]x]]]()]]]x]]]()]]]x]]]()]]]x]]]()]]]x

By: vintagetrex






You still haven't produced your patent information, and you do not have the basic understanding of what a patent does, nor even the information you had to fill out on the form.

It's a comedy to watch you attempt to play the victim in this thread right now claiming people are using ad hominem attacks on you.  I'm not going to even address your claims of a biopolar condition because you haven't even addressed the basic claims of your IPO. 



documented


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:30:18 AM
BTW main post still says Patent Pending.

patent is pending u moron


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: markm on January 18, 2014, 04:32:04 AM
You cannot patent fictional things / things that do not work.

So no, you do not have a patent pending, you have an application-rejection pending.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:33:15 AM
you better watch out. You could be Nxt!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIxmrvbMeKc


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: cthulu1 on January 18, 2014, 04:33:36 AM
BTW main post still says Patent Pending.

patent is pending u moron

Are we even talking to the same guy now? You just unleashed a whole page of crazy up there.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:36:02 AM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20092682,00.html

watch out boys!!!


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: LostDutchman on January 18, 2014, 04:36:08 AM
BTW main post still says Patent Pending.

patent is pending u moron

Are we even talking to the same guy now? Dr. Jekyl and Mr Hyde 2014.

Reads more like schizophrenia with delusions to me.

My $.02.

;)



Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: cthulu1 on January 18, 2014, 04:37:18 AM
And now he is posting all of these articles about some lawyer suing someone....so is he trying to slyly imply he wants to sue us now? lol
"Your Honor, these random strangers on the internet asked me for a patent number, and I didn't have one so I had a violent tantrum and now I want to sue them for being meanyheads."


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:41:01 AM
I AM THE NUMBER 1 INVENTOR OF ALL TIME.  I INVENTED AN ENTIRE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY SYSTEM.  ITS OBVIOUS.  MY INVENTION WILL END BASELESS INTERNET CURRENCY. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:41:42 AM
And now he is posting all of these articles about some lawyer suing someone....so is he trying to slyly imply he wants to sue us now? lol
"Your Honor, these random strangers on the internet asked me for a patent number, and I didn't have one so I had a violent tantrum and now I want to sue them for being meanyheads."


I'm not giving you my patent number because it is none of your god damn business!


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: kalus on January 18, 2014, 04:43:49 AM
what is your opinion of nxt?


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: cryptohunter on January 18, 2014, 04:44:53 AM
What is this bullshit thread that keeps bumping. This should be with the other ANN wave of dirt on the childboards.

This guy is just trolling obviously.

If not trolling then it's unfair to banter with people on medication.

Phantom corp...lol  that's pretty good though. All these ipo's should be made to have phantom somewhere in their title. I'm waiting for my phantom wealth from visacoin that mofo....it's upsetting i still have to work after investing my 0.2 btc. Had been flicking through luxury travel mags lately....Monaco looked perfect....  it was to be the bitcoin killer they told me.







Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: kalus on January 18, 2014, 04:46:44 AM
i can't tell either way at this point.  but you're right it's a dead horse.  anybody who would donate to his address deserves it. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:47:45 AM
what is your opinion of nxt?

Nxt is a Wall Street backed piece of shit.  The entire company is based around false scarcity (not published source code).  If the source code were published it would be copied millions of times and become worthless.  It has to be the favored currency of the NSA.  Disgusting...


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: cthulu1 on January 18, 2014, 04:49:26 AM
Guys, just leave him to his tinfoil hat and his devices so this thread can disappear into the void.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:52:23 AM
check the new thread name

"COME OVER HERE AND TRY IT YOU DUMB SON OF A BITCH"


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 04:56:49 AM
BTW main post still says Patent Pending.

patent is pending u moron

Are we even talking to the same guy now? Dr. Jekyl and Mr Hyde 2014.

Reads more like schizophrenia with delusions to me.

My $.02.

;)


Are you actually missing an eye?


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: LostDutchman on January 18, 2014, 05:05:20 AM
BTW main post still says Patent Pending.

patent is pending u moron

Are we even talking to the same guy now? Dr. Jekyl and Mr Hyde 2014.

Reads more like schizophrenia with delusions to me.

My $.02.

;)


Are you actually missing an eye?

Physically the eye is there but heavily damaged from a vascular condition, such that what vision it has can result in interference with the vision in the good eye as well as a lot of pain due to light exposure.

A real pain in the ass, as it were.

Some folks who experience extreme pain levels from the condition simply have the eye removed but I am loathe to do such a thing.

:P


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: tk808 on January 18, 2014, 05:12:54 AM
the scammer is already selling his BTC


https://blockchain.info/tx/65477a0699103de1ac0223b36ae64b66981b9023d15ab70045122a1b747b3470

to

https://blockchain.info/address/1DgMt2DQLJPoz4MNMD8nHnT9PMyWTs6BoZ

and

https://blockchain.info/address/1BnKoahiNxUBgJbgZ93KugSCNBevARkMdj


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 05:14:41 AM
BTW main post still says Patent Pending.

patent is pending u moron

Are we even talking to the same guy now? Dr. Jekyl and Mr Hyde 2014.

Reads more like schizophrenia with delusions to me.

My $.02.

;)


Are you actually missing an eye?

Physically the eye is there but heavily damaged from a vascular condition, such that what vision it has can result in interference with the vision in the good eye as well as a lot of pain due to light exposure.

A real pain in the ass, as it were.

Some folks who experience extreme pain levels from the condition simply have the eye removed but I am loathe to do such a thing.

:P

I'm sorry to hear that.  It looks pretty cool, but I hope it doesn't cause you much pain.  



Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 05:15:30 AM
the scammer is already selling his BTC


https://blockchain.info/tx/65477a0699103de1ac0223b36ae64b66981b9023d15ab70045122a1b747b3470

to

https://blockchain.info/address/1DgMt2DQLJPoz4MNMD8nHnT9PMyWTs6BoZ

and

https://blockchain.info/address/1BnKoahiNxUBgJbgZ93KugSCNBevARkMdj

Quote from: vintagetrex on Today at 03:18:53 AM
Hi,

someone on stack overflow explained to me why my proof of storage algorithm will not function properly.  I am a little discouraged.  I don't want to hold your BTC for risk I might lose it.  Send me a message with your receiving address and I will send it back. 

Hi,

I'm sorry to hear that - if something comes up in the future and you can make the project work, hit me up. Thanks for being honest and upfront - I'll leave you feedback at the very least.

My receive address: 1BnKoahiNxUBgJbgZ93KugSCNBevARkMdj

Regards,


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, escrow and pledged funding allowed!
Post by: LostDutchman on January 18, 2014, 05:17:39 AM
BTW main post still says Patent Pending.

patent is pending u moron

Are we even talking to the same guy now? Dr. Jekyl and Mr Hyde 2014.

Reads more like schizophrenia with delusions to me.

My $.02.

;)


Are you actually missing an eye?

Physically the eye is there but heavily damaged from a vascular condition, such that what vision it has can result in interference with the vision in the good eye as well as a lot of pain due to light exposure.

A real pain in the ass, as it were.

Some folks who experience extreme pain levels from the condition simply have the eye removed but I am loathe to do such a thing.

:P

I'm sorry to hear that.  It looks pretty cool, but I hope it doesn't cause you much pain.  



Why, thank you for your concern and kind comment!

I have found that vodka is helpful for pain treatment!

;)


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 05:25:20 AM
The other guy said he felt sorry for me because of your trolling and said I could keep his 1 BTC as long as I put it to good use.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 05:27:10 AM
The other guy said he felt sorry for me because of your trolling and said I could keep his 1 BTC as long as I put it to good use.  

LOLOLOLOLOL IN YOUR FACE TROLLS!!!!!!!!

READ IT AND WEEP!!!!!


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: ianspain on January 18, 2014, 03:02:49 PM
sent you an email, hope to invest and work with you ;-)


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: innocentpixel on January 18, 2014, 04:17:43 PM
So many typos in the op that i had to stop reading mid-way


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: Millicent on January 18, 2014, 05:01:39 PM
I stopped reading half way too.  I had to read on and see if anybody would invest with someone who can't even f**king spell Wall Street.  It amazes me that anyone would be willing to invest in these innovative snippets of fictional literature. 

Anybody who's filed for a Patent would have no problem in sharing the number.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 18, 2014, 05:36:09 PM
I stopped reading half way too.  I had to read on and see if anybody would invest with someone who can't even f**king spell Wall Street.  It amazes me that anyone would be willing to invest in these innovative snippets of fictional literature.  

Anybody who's filed for a Patent would have no problem in sharing the number.

have you never been to Wal Mart??

I actually had it spelled correctly at first but I got confused and changed it from Wall Street to Wal Street

fixed just for you


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: Millicent on January 18, 2014, 07:29:24 PM
Really you've confused WalMart with Wall Street?

So where's that Patent number?  Fix that.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 24, 2014, 12:09:37 AM
I will not be posting my patent application number.  Everyone knows not to do that.  

Furthermore, I have thought of a few different ways to do proof of storage, proof of hosting, proof of bandwidth concepts.  

there could be several options and a crypto corp could allow its users (up loaders) to choose which one they would like to use.  


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 24, 2014, 12:17:19 AM
I think it is obvious the most valuable innovation of "Crypto Coins 2.0" will be the ability to perform the function of a decentralized, autonomous, non-government based, intellectual property system for files/data/uploads/claims


Here are some things that such a system should do:

-verify and provide proof of the time of the upload
-provide compensation to an uploader
         - typically in the form of coins that can be redeemed for real world value, giving the coins real value
-provide compensation to seeders and others who distribute the file and prevent its deletion


-provide a means for crowd sourcing innovation
-provide a means for crowd sourcing leaked documents

-provide a means for competing parties/companies to create a market for open sourcing each others (competitors) trade secrets and IP portfolio (similar to crowd sourcing except more centralized)


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 24, 2014, 01:43:36 AM
crowd funding initiative is still going.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: cthulu1 on January 24, 2014, 02:33:16 AM
A quick 5 second search on OP yielded these absolute gems.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252564.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253999.0

About the Author

     vintagetrex was the Xbox Live gamer tag of a 12 year old semi-professional Halo 2 player. Considered a prodigy by some due to his lack of online experience with Halo 1, vintagetrex was known for aggressive bxr combos and stylish head shots with the sniper rifle.  

     As an adult, the author has continued developing a unique skill set, including a freakish combination of logic and creativity.  The author's perceptual organization index tested at 99.7%, but he also draws immense creative inspiration from an onset of bipolar disorder.  

     After vintagetrex's first invention, which occured under the influence of LSD as an independent at age 19, he was forced into an unfair game dominated by corporate greed and lobbyists.  vintagetrex was crippled in his ability to promote his own invention due to the steep price of patent filings, legal fees, FDA trials, and getting non disclosure agreements signed.  All of these results stemmed from an intellectual property system claiming its sole purpose was the promotion of innovation.  Analyzing his own possibilities, he realized he had been thrust into a game where the only winning option was not to play.  "Write your inventions in a book and don't tell anyone about them."  The game had been made by greed to enslave young, creative minds; squeezing value out of them to boost corporate profits.  vintagetrex vowed to remake the game and turn greed against the oppressors of innovation.  He vowed to make big business the new slaves.  His creation was Anarcorp.  

Methinks one too many extinguished braincells lends itself to psuedologia fantastica in this case.  


Anyone else getting a strong The Talented Mr. Ripley vibe?  You know, minus the 'Talented' part....



You should know better and let this thread fall into the void where it was.


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: tk808 on January 24, 2014, 02:35:37 AM
OP Is Back for more BTC

Abandon Thread


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 24, 2014, 02:52:36 AM
Hahaha I am seriously considering it. 

Ethereum looks pretty cool.  It seems Ethereum could be a file uploaded to the Phantom Corp block chain. 

Likewise, Phantom Corp could be a smart contract built on top of Ethereum.  Hmmm



Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 24, 2014, 03:07:08 AM
A quick 5 second search on OP yielded these absolute gems.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252564.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253999.0

About the Author

     vintagetrex was the Xbox Live gamer tag of a 12 year old semi-professional Halo 2 player. Considered a prodigy by some due to his lack of online experience with Halo 1, vintagetrex was known for aggressive bxr combos and stylish head shots with the sniper rifle.  

     As an adult, the author has continued developing a unique skill set, including a freakish combination of logic and creativity.  The author's perceptual organization index tested at 99.7%, but he also draws immense creative inspiration from an onset of bipolar disorder.  

     After vintagetrex's first invention, which occured under the influence of LSD as an independent at age 19, he was forced into an unfair game dominated by corporate greed and lobbyists.  vintagetrex was crippled in his ability to promote his own invention due to the steep price of patent filings, legal fees, FDA trials, and getting non disclosure agreements signed.  All of these results stemmed from an intellectual property system claiming its sole purpose was the promotion of innovation.  Analyzing his own possibilities, he realized he had been thrust into a game where the only winning option was not to play.  "Write your inventions in a book and don't tell anyone about them."  The game had been made by greed to enslave young, creative minds; squeezing value out of them to boost corporate profits.  vintagetrex vowed to remake the game and turn greed against the oppressors of innovation.  He vowed to make big business the new slaves.  His creation was Anarcorp.  

Methinks one too many extinguished braincells lends itself to psuedologia fantastica in this case.  


Anyone else getting a strong The Talented Mr. Ripley vibe?  You know, minus the 'Talented' part....



You should know better and let this thread fall into the void where it was.

you are pretty lame man.  I don't care about your harassment. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 24, 2014, 03:09:55 AM
And for the record,

I came up with another way to do proof of hosting for the claim specific coin mining network. 

Thanks!!


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: Millicent on January 24, 2014, 03:10:54 AM
I will not be posting my patent application number.  Everyone knows not to do that.  


While I should just let this thread go into the abyss where it belongs.  I'd like to hear your reasoning behind this comment.

I have a patent application filed and would have no problem posting it.  What's your problem posting it?


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 24, 2014, 03:12:10 AM
I will not be posting my patent application number.  Everyone knows not to do that.  


While I should just let this thread go into the abyss where it belongs.  I'd like to hear your reasoning behind this comment.

I have a patent application filed and would have no problem posting it.  What's your problem posting it?

Lawyers say not to, also as stated previously, it is not in my possession.  I will have it in my possession by Monday. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 24, 2014, 03:15:02 AM
I just looked into V Buterin.  He seems to be a smart kid and know lots of stuff in computing.  He reminds me of myself when I was 19.  

I hope he recognizes the radical transformation block chain technology can bring to the economy.  It can literally restructure the entire economy and replace greed/corruption in innovation/development of new ideas.  This can be done by the complete exploitation of government intellectual property and corporatism.  If he hasn't already learned, I'm sure he will soon find out how corrupt the people surrounding innovation can be.  

The name of the game is this: "remove as much money from the inventor's pockets as possible and place it in your own pocket" (as a developer/investor/lawyer)

THIS MUST BE CHANGED. 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 24, 2014, 04:05:32 AM
I just looked into V Buterin.  He seems to be a smart kid and know lots of stuff in computing.  He reminds me of myself when I was 19.  

I hope he recognizes the radical transformation block chain technology can bring to the economy.  It can literally restructure the entire economy and replace greed/corruption in innovation/development of new ideas.  This can be done by the complete exploitation of government intellectual property and corporatism.  If he hasn't already learned, I'm sure he will soon find out how corrupt the people surrounding innovation can be.  

The name of the game is this: "remove as much money from the inventor's pockets as possible and place it in your own pocket" (as a developer/investor/lawyer)

THIS MUST BE CHANGED.  

I remember when I was 19 and these people leading this one organization (Pumps & Pipes, a 'collaborative technology conference') wanted to uphold me as "young 19 year old genius inventor going to save the world."  

Its a marketing strategy.  Everyone likes to think of some young mind who will revolutionize the world.  While all that was going on, the organization was looting all the profits from my inventions behind my back.  When I tried to sue them, my dad who was involved with the organization got involved to step up the coercion.  Its always a bunch of bullshit.  

:(

Sorry Vitalik, you're probably screwed.  You will understand the value of the decentralized intellectual property system soon enough!!! (once you realize the people upholding you as a "creative genius" have walked away with the money of your innovation stuffing their pockets)


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation
Post by: vintagetrex on January 24, 2014, 04:18:36 AM
A quick 5 second search on OP yielded these absolute gems.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252564.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253999.0

About the Author

     vintagetrex was the Xbox Live gamer tag of a 12 year old semi-professional Halo 2 player. Considered a prodigy by some due to his lack of online experience with Halo 1, vintagetrex was known for aggressive bxr combos and stylish head shots with the sniper rifle.  

     As an adult, the author has continued developing a unique skill set, including a freakish combination of logic and creativity.  The author's perceptual organization index tested at 99.7%, but he also draws immense creative inspiration from an onset of bipolar disorder.  

     After vintagetrex's first invention, which occured under the influence of LSD as an independent at age 19, he was forced into an unfair game dominated by corporate greed and lobbyists.  vintagetrex was crippled in his ability to promote his own invention due to the steep price of patent filings, legal fees, FDA trials, and getting non disclosure agreements signed.  All of these results stemmed from an intellectual property system claiming its sole purpose was the promotion of innovation.  Analyzing his own possibilities, he realized he had been thrust into a game where the only winning option was not to play.  "Write your inventions in a book and don't tell anyone about them."  The game had been made by greed to enslave young, creative minds; squeezing value out of them to boost corporate profits.  vintagetrex vowed to remake the game and turn greed against the oppressors of innovation.  He vowed to make big business the new slaves.  His creation was Anarcorp.  

Methinks one too many extinguished braincells lends itself to psuedologia fantastica in this case.  


Anyone else getting a strong The Talented Mr. Ripley vibe?  You know, minus the 'Talented' part....



You should know better and let this thread fall into the void where it was.

Wait a second… you're a promoter of anarchist money and yet you deride people for partaking in illegal activities such as illicit substances.  shame on you!!!!


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: cthulu1 on January 24, 2014, 08:59:58 AM
Do you even realize how crazy you sound when you post all those messages like that....you seriously need to start taking your meds and lay off all the crazy drugs and people wouldn't be so quick to shut you down. I mean jesus, you're having a conversation with yourself now. It's embarrassing. Let's be clear about something -- you've never invented anything outside of your crazy head and a TXT document with doodles, you don't own any patents, you most likely can't afford a lawyer since you can't even afford to move out of your dad's house in the bay, and you most certainly won't be getting anyone's money here. Why do you think anyone is going to be any more interested than the first time around, especially when you do skitzo shit like the above wall of posts you made talking to yourself. It's weird and almost borderline creepy. And all you do is talk about how "the man" or "the system" has you down, and you think sitting on a internet forum talking about ....whatever it is the fuck you talk about, is going to change that? You are lost.

Which ward did you escape from, really?


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: lemfuture on January 24, 2014, 10:39:49 AM
so this thread is still arguing instead of promoting xD
~clicks unwatch~


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 26, 2014, 06:53:22 AM
Do you even realize how crazy you sound when you post all those messages like that....you seriously need to start taking your meds and lay off all the crazy drugs and people wouldn't be so quick to shut you down. I mean jesus, you're having a conversation with yourself now. It's embarrassing. Let's be clear about something -- you've never invented anything outside of your crazy head and a TXT document with doodles, you don't own any patents, you most likely can't afford a lawyer since you can't even afford to move out of your dad's house in the bay, and you most certainly won't be getting anyone's money here. Why do you think anyone is going to be any more interested than the first time around, especially when you do skitzo shit like the above wall of posts you made talking to yourself. It's weird and almost borderline creepy. And all you do is talk about how "the man" or "the system" has you down, and you think sitting on a internet forum talking about ....whatever it is the fuck you talk about, is going to change that? You are lost.

Which ward did you escape from, really?

THANKS FOR KEEPING MY THREAD BUMPED.  IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, ALL THE IMPORTANT INFORMATION IS IN THE FIRST POST.  PEOPLE HAVE TO READ THAT BEFORE SEEING YOUR STUPID TROLL REMARKS.  YOU ARE A MORON AND HELP MY IDEAS GET SEEN BY MORE PEOPLE. 



Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: vintagetrex on January 26, 2014, 07:05:50 AM
Do you even realize how crazy you sound when you post all those messages like that....you seriously need to start taking your meds and lay off all the crazy drugs and people wouldn't be so quick to shut you down. I mean jesus, you're having a conversation with yourself now. It's embarrassing. Let's be clear about something -- you've never invented anything outside of your crazy head and a TXT document with doodles, you don't own any patents, you most likely can't afford a lawyer since you can't even afford to move out of your dad's house in the bay, and you most certainly won't be getting anyone's money here. Why do you think anyone is going to be any more interested than the first time around, especially when you do skitzo shit like the above wall of posts you made talking to yourself. It's weird and almost borderline creepy. And all you do is talk about how "the man" or "the system" has you down, and you think sitting on a internet forum talking about ....whatever it is the fuck you talk about, is going to change that? You are lost.

Which ward did you escape from, really?

I will make a prediction for you:

In less then 2 years, there will be a total armageddon for government based intellectual property.  Is it possible that you would like to delay this outcome to save yourself money? 


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: ianspain on January 26, 2014, 05:26:14 PM
Do you even realize how crazy you sound when you post all those messages like that....you seriously need to start taking your meds and lay off all the crazy drugs and people wouldn't be so quick to shut you down. I mean jesus, you're having a conversation with yourself now. It's embarrassing. Let's be clear about something -- you've never invented anything outside of your crazy head and a TXT document with doodles, you don't own any patents, you most likely can't afford a lawyer since you can't even afford to move out of your dad's house in the bay, and you most certainly won't be getting anyone's money here. Why do you think anyone is going to be any more interested than the first time around, especially when you do skitzo shit like the above wall of posts you made talking to yourself. It's weird and almost borderline creepy. And all you do is talk about how "the man" or "the system" has you down, and you think sitting on a internet forum talking about ....whatever it is the fuck you talk about, is going to change that? You are lost.

Which ward did you escape from, really?

I will make a prediction for you:

In less then 2 years, there will be a total armageddon for government based intellectual property.  Is it possible that you would like to delay this outcome to save yourself money? 


lol, we wish!!


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: LostDutchman on January 26, 2014, 08:01:13 PM
How a paid a paid file locker, hosted through Tor and accepting BTC as payment?

Now there's a thought.

mmmmmmmmmmmmm....................................

heh, heh.

Just kidding.

(Or am I?)

;)


Title: Re: Phantom Corp IPO - file sharing corporation, PATENT PENDING!
Post by: TheMightyX on January 28, 2014, 05:42:32 AM
Was there actually anything here at all?
I'm confused as to why the developer is asking for funding when hes in college and working on the project already.
What are your expenses? Why do you feel you should get paid to do what others are doing for free, for the betterment of mankind, or because they believe in the project?
I get it you want to get paid for contributing something great. Unfortunately people are a bit burnt with this scheme.
If you actually create this system, you will have no trouble getting funding.
Treat this as a project where you get paid by post-dated check and can't cash until the project is complete.