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hi guys i'm going to share my own experience with you , i think there is so unfair reviews out there.
i was betting on directbet.eu before and because of lack of some markets and bet limits , made me to know sportsbet.io
im sportsbet user for 1.5 year , i had no any problems with them at all . im high roller gambler , im poker player and i travel for these alot(monaco , MACAU and ...) because its illegal in my country :D .
ok let start :)
this is my first depsoit
https://i.imgur.com/YQHCt3s.png

this is my first cashout couple hours after deposit and winning, i made a bet with all of my deposit on handicap of nhl and won they did it for me in less than 3 minute
https://i.imgur.com/U1fwhmZ.png

in 2017 i had a hot run winning big parlays with small amounts and there is cashout proofs
https://i.imgur.com/I5cp73W.png

and whatever you read about , leave them just here because last night i made a very very big deposit here first time (4BTC) to bet majorly on international friendly match poland vs lithuania over 2.5 .
and i did it
https://blockexplorer.com/tx/3fb9bd74a886637b66e29622d244dafde04a5793536fdec22cd6e653d0002716 (https://blockexplorer.com/tx/3fb9bd74a886637b66e29622d244dafde04a5793536fdec22cd6e653d0002716)
https://i.imgur.com/jNr8yhp.png

and my bets
https://i.imgur.com/JPCYFJk.png

and here is the cashout right after winning, done in less than 3 minutes , never they asked for documents or anything . im high roller gambler and i think this is the best bookie ever for high rollers to play
https://i.imgur.com/PNa38vZ.png

and what a beautiful image i got from phone screen you can see the time of everything and see how fast it happend
https://i.imgur.com/WVa1FFY.png

as always i had a best and wonderful experience with this bookie , this is the best bookie ever
hope you enjoy my review here
thanks

That doesn't matters if it's good for only you, see scam accusation threads and you'll understand why they have bad reviews and why is their account tagged.
When you win much, they don't give you possibility to withdraw them and request ID and other documents.
You could write this review in their ANN thread, creating new threads everytime for new reviews would be bad to see.

yeah i saw them there but mostly solved look at their final posts . except 21.5BTC which worth 25K USD in that moment , which they find it farud , the documents you can buy for 30$ over internet and he was so scared and it was proving something is wrong with him you can see it in emails and ....
my last withdrawal was 7.145 BTC which in USD value is more than 46,000$ . they never asked me anything if they do i will provide them all information and documents , because im not doing anything wrong to get afraid of even if they ask my login to my wallet.

i think casino owners here are going to make an ant big here to destroy the bigger casino . when their leaderboard was running i saw with my eye that someone won near 236BTC in a month total , i dont know him/her loss but leaderboard was showing his 1 month winning .

im sure if you are doing right and be a right person , you will never get a problem with them as i did , and i think i won  one of biggest bets in BTC bookies and thgey cashed out it for me in under 3 minute

to be honest I never had a single problem with sportsbet.io , there are some accusations but I do believe most of the time it's users faults since the site is making enough money with their high margin so no need to scam users
but may I know why you are using them ?? I see you are a highroller so do you know that you missing huge value when you are betting with them since almost all other sites have higher odds ?

I only use sportsbet when I can't find the selection I want in other sites , but that's really rare

im living a country which i can just deposit with bitcoins and no master card no paypal nothing . and i find it so trustable and their cashout speed is phenomenal no matter how big or small it is .
i used to bet before on cloudbet and couple others but their limits are so low and not good for me , also when you want a cashout it almost takes 1 day .

they offered me alot of VIP RISK-Free bets before which if i win any of them it will compensate the low odds. and i had good moments with them i dont care about couple percent more to sacrifice the quality and even if i win big im super sure they cashout me . the trust and high limit and speed is most important thing to me .

yeah true the cash out thing is unique to sportsbet when it comes to bitcoin betting , but still mate there are many better options
bitcoinrush , betking and nitrogen all of them offer better odds than sportsbet and they are all trusted , I'm sure bitcoinrush doesn't limit winners but not sure about nitrogen and betking

anyways it's your call at the end

Like are you talking out of your ass? I like how you half knowledgeable gamblers shill for the websites which often mislead new users.Do you know who runs Sportsbet.io? Have you seen their other gambling websites? I was among the very first players on the website since the day it was launched and I tell you they're scammers.Their parent sites are also tagged on bitcointalk for scamming.People just play there because they don't have a better option.
 
OP is just a bubble headed idiot shilling for the website.Who gives a fuck what a newbie cunt thinks anyway? Had they been so legit, they would never have -8 negatives.

stop talking BS and post some facts , do you know the people who run nitrogen or run any other site ???
the margin in sportsbet is high enough to make money from users without scamming , they can simply accept bets and place the bets on higher odds on Asian brokers since almost all other sites have higher odds

I hate sportsbet for their low odds , but never had a single a problem with them

lol for half knowledgeable gamblers , I guess I have been around here more than you by the way and my nickname says it all

they don't need to scam people cause their odds are shitty enough to rip people money , I can open even better site if some dumb people agree to bet on the odds that sportsbet offers since I can easily make 2-10% on their money for every single bet !!

i dont care who is running that , the important thing for me is , is that trustable , which proved me yes , they have some how no-limit which works as well for me .
also there is no any proof that they scammed anybody . the BS in scam section most of them solved and 21.5 the problem is himself .

I believe and im super confident they are doing really great. and thats it . no matter what others talking with no evidence . i talked here with evidence which cashedout 46,000USD$ in less than 3 minute.

UltraPlay books have/had in-play cashout from what I recall. They've had it since 2016:

oh didn't know that since the only ultra play site that I used to use is betcoin and they didn't have it that time  , thanks for sharing
I don't use cash out , but some rare occasions it may help like if your tennis player is winning and you have him with certain handicap , if the other player got injured cash out would be nice instead of the betting getting void

but these are rare accusations that I see cash out useful for , anyways I prefer to stick to pre live value betting

Lol so just because you made profit and you were allowed to withdraw doesn't mean that sportsbet is real. They obviously have lot of players on their site who still gamble daily and are still able to make withdrawals flawlessly but there are still many players who earnings were taken by the site for no reason. People have a mixed opinion about the site but on this forum for most it is a scam

think about it like this mate , if you are able to let people bet with you at X1.80 odds for example and you are able to bet that bet somewhere else for X1.85
would you take that bet or not ?? and do you need to scam people in order to make money or not ??

that's the way I think about sportsbet , they are offering lower odds than other places and some people for some reason are choosing them while they can get better value in other places

Im not sure the point of this thread, but you sound like a happy gambler.
So good for you and hopefully your good luck will brush off on me from posting in this thread  8)
With all the scam accusations, I am sure Sportsbet doesnt mind you posting your story so people understand this is a legitimate sportsbook.

Either you or the publicly proven Sportsbet scam (https://game-protect.com/sportsbet-scam/) is lying!!!

Because according to their statement they are obligated to ID verification if withdrawals exceeds the equivalent of 10 Bitcoins or €2300.

show me 1 with evidence

You're quoting Terms & Conditions from 2017, and they have since changed. 
9.2. Sportsbet.io reserve the right to carry out additional KYC verification procedures for any withdrawals exceeding the equivalent of 1 Bitcoin or €2000 as regulated by our gaming license.
All that means is that they reserve the right to KYC anything over 1 BTC, not that it is a requirement.
You seem to be confused, which isn't really much of a surprise.

OP has some big cashouts but all this happened from the beginning of (2017) last year to its mid year and no latest transactions to show how much of a sportsbet supporter he/she claims....FYI along the way they had a case to answer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1863248.msg18527694#msg18527694 which remains unresolved and bad for business which does not make it the best bookie out there if they can not solve such an issue ::)

Did you even bother reading the thread for which you posted the link?

This matter was resolved last year, with the scammer getting his 15 BTC back.

The link you posted concludes with con artist game-protect spamming another casino, so if that's what you were trying to accomplish, then good for you.

You seriously for proof go to their ann thread and see the profile of their account, it's full of scam accusations, just google sportsbet.io scam this isn't the only forum where people are facing any issues check other forums as well as i said it might be good for you it's not same for everyone

The same "scam accusation" for 15 BTC (which was returned) is floating around the internet.

They caught him, and lucky for him, returned his 15 BTC deposit.

People don't understand that the scam artist attempted to defraud Sportsbet.

If you aren't familiar with the term "Double Spending," do yourself a favor and Google it.

I'm not defending sportsbet , but can't take single accusation as it's the only way to determine if a site is trusted or not
and same thing for the trust rating here in the forums , even nitrogen has red trust do this make them fraud ??

I'm being 100% realistic here , sportsbet doesn't need to scam money since their odds are the shittiest in bitcoin betting

so my general advice is to avoid it , not because it's a scam but because you will be getting way better price betting somewhere else

You are the one who is confused! ::)

Their own terms of service confirm their scam! Because if they are required by their regulator (whoever this is?) to do KYC, then they have to do this always and also in case of deposits!

And this confirms that they are not regulated and reserve the right to do KYC only in case of withdrawals to find a reason to defraud winnings and deposits!


How did they catch him and where is the proof of how they catched him?

The victim authorized sportsbet to publicise the proof and sportsbet denied! This says it all! At least for someone with a brain in his head.

If you have an issue with them, why do they offer to ask gamblers? How sick is this?

That is a logical fallacy lol If a company scams 100 bitcoins from their customer, would you wait for them to scam another 100 to take their fraudulent practices into consideration? I'm not sure if you're too nice or just not smart enough.Scam is a scam, regardless of the amount stolen.

I don't mind getting a low price if the website is trustworthy.Giving high odds to attract customers and then stealing their money is no way better than the former.

nah it's not a fallacy , they are saying that the user had suspicious acts and you can't be sure if that was the case or not ( that's why I'm against accepting bets without getting network confirmation )

regarding the odds no , you shouldn't take low prices even if the site is trustworthy since long term you won't make money
you can find trusted sites like betking , bitcoinrush and nitrogen that they will take your bets at higher odds than sportsbet

funny most of the people commented don't know how sportsbetting work , if they did they wouldn't accuse sportsbet cause sportsbet is making tons of money by just accepting bets

 

I mean you make sense nitrogen also has many reports against them as i said it's literally user to user preference i hate that site because they closed my account without any reasons and claiming i had multiple account which was completely untrue and they even took my funds so that's why i hate maybe people might have same issue with nitrogen you never know

Weren't the 15BTC returned to the guy?

I once withdrew almost 0.5BTC from them without a problem, even got a free 5mBTC bet.

Think they're safe for lower amounts.
But then again, OP did get a huge-ass withdrawal o.o

Sygambler gets it, too bad other don't-

I think what people fail to understand about this sportsbook, they have wide enough margins and more than likely take in enough action that they would be shooting themselves in the foot by stealing from players.
It just doesn't make any sense, why would a company that is already making almost guaranteed money decide to steal 15 BTC that could in turn hurt their reputation and possibly put them out of business?
This is why I trusted Sportsbet and joined their signature campaign, where I was always paid on time and when promised. 
I have only good things to say about this Sportsbook and until someone actually comes forward to prove otherwise, it should be know that Sportsbet is a trustworthy Sportsbook.

hehe glad you showed up mate , at least the community here knows that you are a profitable tipster and know about this biz
cause I'm being accused of being an idiot shill by people who clearly don't know anything about sportsbetting

if they have done their research they would know that sportsbet is making tons with their margin , and I have said it many times that I would happily accept such bets with such odds if people want to bet with me ( even if they want to deal with escrow ) simply because I can lay the stake at higher odds somewhere else

You're a valid asset to this community, so I felt it was only right to chime in and come to your defense.
The last thing this forum needs is good people like yourself leaving as a result of others wrongfully accusing/critiquing you.

I like your over-confidence.Which cave have you been living under? You know what you fail to understand? Common Sense.

Because they can? Why they wouldn't? Who doesn't want more money? How can you be so sure that they're making enough money? If they're making enough money off bets, there's someone definitely losing on the other side? Bet Matching, bookie chain etc are some of the concepts what I feel you have failed to understand and your knowledge in sportsbook is weak.

Shut the fuck up already if you can't bring logic to the table..Stop being their shill..

Because they're likely making decent money, so it would be a waste to gain a moderately sized lump sum and kill off a large revenue stream. The person losing on the other side is the bettor, as they are accepting very poor odds. I don't see how bet matching is related, but someone trying to arb on sportsbet.io is either stupid or taking advantage of promotions. Or, if you meant sportsbet.io matching bets, they could easily match with other bettors on their platform if there's a lot of volume, or even use another book such as Pinnacle, Betfair or Fairlay to counter each bet, and still make a decent percentage. There's also sportsbook providers that pay you a % of each bet, regardless of the outcome, and they could be using one of them as well.

I fail to see how a bookie chain is related to this either. They don't seem to be obviously mirroring the odds of another sportsbook like other books do (BitcoinRush mirrors Pinnacle, most Fairlay market makers seem to as well).

Throwing in random buzzwords and not explaining or elaborating doesn't make your argument any stronger.

once again , nobody showed me an evidence that they made scam,
im sure these are who says scam are other casino owners which want to ruin the reputation of sportsbet .
i also cashout another 7.882BTC with no any problem

Mind explaining all the accusations they have had in the past? I can link you to all of them should you insist.I failed to understand the co-relation between "making decent money" and messing players up over the KYC policies. Do you honestly think a sportsbook which operates illegally should have access to the confidential information of their players? I'm not even talking abut their parent companies which are known as fraudulent operators in the bitcoin casino scene. I'm assuming you know who they are.

They could be and that's how the bookie chain works.

It doesn't. I didn't care to elaborate because the poster didn't seemed like someone who'd give a logical view to it and it wouldn't matter anyway. Should you still wish to see the reference links of whatever my argument is, I don't mind posting it here.

over-confidence is a normal thing when someone actually knows what he is talking about , there is no single reason for sportsbet to scam literally zero !!
unlike 1xbit where they offer high odds , that's why I call 1xbit a scam and don't call sportsbet a scam


would you scam a certain amount and kill your revenue stream when you have already a lot of people making bets with you ??
people profits in sportsbet aren't sportsbet loss , do you want me to give you screenshots for the odds in sportsbet and the odds that I'm able to bet on using my broker which offers betfair , pinnacle , matchbook , SBO , IBC and Bdaq ??


actually he is the one bringing the facts and you are failing to bring a single valid point , no one is being a shill here since he already told you that their odds suck !!
but offering low odds when the bettors are accepting these low odds isn't called scam

regarding the KYC , even 5dimes when I registered told me that there is no KYC for bitcoin users and I tested them only when 200$ and when I wanted to withdraw they asked me for my ID , should I go and call them a scam ??

Do I look like someone who cares what you think? I care more about facts.Why don't you say the same thing to the people who have left their account and their parent companies a negative feedback? If you really believe they aren't a scam, what's holding you back from messaging the DT members and proving them wrong? I can open a thread for you calling all the DT members who left them a feedback and you can come to the rescue.

Your logic : They are not a scam because the offer high odds than everybody else. Sounds very logical.

Quote a line of him which stands as a Fact.

That's none of my business what your relation is with the other sites.That's way off here.

Do I look like I really care what you think or how the trust system here works ?? remember there are people with green trust that they have in their green trust something like ( sold me 0.1 bitcoin transaction is smooth ) while sites like nitrogen have negative red trust
I don't even play in sportsbet btw unless they offer price boosts or extra value , so I don't even care about that site but calling it scam without even understanding how their system works is completely BS


yes that's the only logical way to think , I'm talking you business here not the BS argument that you are bringing
I guess Darkstar made it so clear , do you think he is an idiot as well ?? ( since you care too much about DT surprisingly you are only attacking me and Jereme even Darkstar saying the same what we are saying )


He told you how their system works and how they are making money without even taking a risk , that's the only true fact I'm seeing in this thread

"How their system works" and "they're a scam" are two different things. You literally have no counter arguments which actually make any sense. I continued to post here since Darkstar knows what he was talking about unlike you.I'm out.

Not a very big fan of people who lack basic abilities to think.I'm sorry, you're way too intelligent for me.

He didn't make anything clear.He had his own points.Why are you being a spokesperson for everyone I have quoted? lol

Very Good.I'm convinced they're not a scam. :)

yeah Darkstar knows what he talking about even he is saying the exact same thing what I and Jereme are saying , but we are idiots  :D :D
lol show me one single line that Darkstar said something different of what I'm saying , but yeah he knows what he is talking about since he is DT hahaha

No, he is not saying the same thing. Our discussion involved bet matching and bookie chain stuff. I don't see him blindly defending either.

You continue to post illogical stuff. I'm surprised you are in a signature campaign which supposedly has very good posters from bitcointalk. I'm used to reading posts from pugman/LoyceV/jackG which are comparatively way better than yours.But that's none of my business. I didn't even knew he is on a DT until now.

he is saying the same thing that sportsbet can go lay the bets on other bookies , it's the same discussion
I'm not blindly defending them again , I'm saying the same thing that no one should bet with them cause their odds suck
where is the illogical in my posting , I'm posting the only logical thing that they don't need to scam since they can easily make 2-5% of the bets

and yeah regarding my posts you can go and report me to Darkstar , I'm the shittiest poster in this forum but at least I didn't buy my account
also I have more merits than you btw , not that I care about merits as well  :D

I'm only active in the gambling forum , and made almost all my merits in this forum so this should give you an idea how idiot I'm in gambling stuffs

oof

If you think he's spamming/posting low quality though, feel free to send me a PM or make a Reputation thread about it with some proof. (I'm sure digaran would love to hear about how I'm accepting spammers into my campaigns now)

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I disagree though; I don't find his posts illogical.


I am a DT member who left them a feedback  :D
I don't consider them a pure scam, just a (quite) shady sportsbook. They've made questionable decisions with KYC, holding funds and canceling bets, but nothing stands out as "scam".


I don't know and have no interest in finding out the whole story. My guess is that most of the people who made an accusation did something else (ex that 15 BTC guy apparently attempted/did double spend) resulting in their account being flagged. Sportsbet's support seems to be quite bad as well. If they really were this shady, wouldn't you expect many more accusations? Also, don't play there if you don't wish to go through KYC; it's stated in their Terms of Service that KYC may be required. No one is forcing you to use sportsbet.io, and there's a lot of much better sportsbooks (minus the promotions) out there such as BetKing and BitcoinRush.


And how does that make them a scammer?

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I do not endorse or recommend people to play at sportsbet.io, but I would saying calling them a scam is inaccurate. (so is calling them trustworthy)

to be honest I don't even know why I'm being called with different stupid names , it's like I'm promoting sportsbet or benefiting from them
I have said 4 or 5 times that people should avoid it and bet somewhere else to get better value

I don't know if my posts didn't make my point clear enough , but anyways I'm sorry if I was misunderstood and I'm sorry for my rage
I was called idiot many times here , that's why I continued posting with rage

also Darkstar please don't count my posts here since some considered it illogical and I repeated the same idea over and over again
last thing I want is someone else to call you out for taking spammers

I don't consider you a spammer, and the suggestion to Patatas was more rhetorical than anything.

there is another for liers ,sportsbet , the best ever bookie , they never asked me a document
https://i.imgur.com/2zvlIzz.png

i have account sportsbet io and used them over a year almost withdrawl more than 5btc total.they all processed in 2 mins its super fast.Only negative thing i can say about them is i created referral account and invited my friends then they blamed me for multiple accounts and got all my earning almost 50mBTC..

Lol.  This thread reminds me of the typical 2013 - 2014 altcoin thread in the altcoin section.  Some 'newbie' makes a thread praising or bashing a coin.  Socks start agreeing or disagreeing.  Real accounts start chiming in.  And before you know it, it's already 10 pages long.

Well played.

nah , not promoting or destroying  anything  . just as user i saw alot of unfair reviews out there , just wanted to show people they are best in what they are doing without any problem