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Economy => Currency exchange => Topic started by: Blackout on September 19, 2011, 09:48:48 PM



Title: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: Blackout on September 19, 2011, 09:48:48 PM
Sometimes in a pinch people want to buy and sell BTC through paypal.

RULE #1 do not mention it in the transaction. Just make it a service for computer software help

I would like this thread to become a safe haven rating of people who are trustworthy of buying and selling on paypal.
Post what you want to buy or sell, build your rep on here, and then use this thread to check reputation.  I know the irc channel exists but it's a mess of spammers & scammers.

I would like to buy about 10 btc right now from a hero member on here. Respond here first... I guest safest is to do it 1 by one or divide it up with people you don't know. Post your want need here, then post confirmed /reliable / or problems / scammed.
Obviously I would only start with proven forum members.

I am also a seller.  Right now I don't have access to my BTC and need some. I will be selling later.








Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: teflone on September 19, 2011, 10:17:39 PM
I would like to see this also. Very USEFUL!

I currently have a need to buy MTGox vouchers BTC or USD. or coin at mtgox price..

I would like to develop some more trust with paypal transactions..

Thanks


Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: pirateat40 on September 20, 2011, 07:10:14 AM
There are more scammers on the forums than on OTC.  :(


Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: bitcoinTrader on September 20, 2011, 07:55:09 AM
Sometimes in a pinch people want to buy and sell BTC through paypal.

RULE #1 do not mention it in the transaction. Just make it a service for computer software help
I would like this thread to become a safe haven rating of people who are trustworthy of buying and selling on paypal.
Post what you want to buy or sell, build your rep on here, and then use this thread to check reputation.  I know the irc channel exists but it's a mess of spammers & scammers.

I would like to buy about 10 btc right now from a hero member on here. Respond here first... I guest safest is to do it 1 by one or divide it up with people you don't know. Post your want need here, then post confirmed /reliable / or problems / scammed.
Obviously I would only start with proven forum members.

I am also a seller.  Right now I don't have access to my BTC and need some. I will be selling later.








That doesnt help to prevent chargeback.
Personal experience.


Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: Blackout on September 20, 2011, 05:57:01 PM
#bitcoin-otc is pretty god damn insane.  I mean the gpg thing and all that..... it's great and all but you almost need a degree in computer science to fully understand it.  I finally got a nick going in there

BlackoutsBox

But....  I trust some members on these forums, and sometimes want to buy or sell, so this thread could almost be the same thing, like a rating thread.

I sold X btc to ______ and he paid quickly.... it has been a month.. no charge backs.. good communication... ect.
I bought X btc from _______  report. 

No system is perfect against fraud, but we must not allow this to deter us from making honest transactions.

So use this thread for requests, reports.  I already got the BTC I needed bu it wasn't from a forum member,
and I know I'm never going to charge back on anyone.  but OTC was dead too... I guess because I'm a new member.



Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: vvinogradoff on September 20, 2011, 09:52:09 PM
A reputable buyer will only send you a paypal payment as a gift so chargebacks are pretty much impossible, otherwise don't do it.

Everything is possible, no matter what kind of payment type you've choosen. It's not so difficult to prevent user from filling a non-received claim with paypal, there are at least half dozen of different ways. Still none of those prevent user from filling an unauthirozed charge claim - 'I was hacked, somebody gifted $10k from my acccount'.

And what's most important, nothing could make you safe against CC/ACH chargebacks which are being originated in user bank, not the PayPal itself.


Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: enygma on September 22, 2011, 05:23:23 PM
A reputable buyer will only send you a paypal payment as a gift so chargebacks are pretty much impossible, otherwise don't do it.
Not impossible. I had sent through Paypal simply as money owed (which I assumed was not much different than a gift). When I discovered I was being scammed, I phoned Paypal and got elevated to a representative that dealt in these matters. I explained the situation to him and then a dispute was filed. I wasn't able to file a dispute through the website because of the way I sent the money, but one of Paypal's representatives understood the situation and opened the dispute. The money was recently charged back.

Because I was able to do this, it wouldn't surprise me that someone good at social engineering could do the same, though it did go in my favor simply because the other party didn't respond to my dispute (just like every other email and PM I sent them). Don't think a chargeback is not possible regardless of how the paypal transaction is made. I would like to believe the paypal dispute process is fair, so I would suggest that when doing a paypal transaction, make sure all records of conversations are available with a transaction agreement (I'm sure someone here might have a boilerplate agreement), in case a chargeback is made. This way, you can provide proof that a transaction was made, the conversations involved in the transaction and an agreement to the transaction so that you can provide evidence beyond reasonable doubt that a proper transaction took place.


Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: Blackout on September 23, 2011, 08:58:33 PM
I am not saying that these things are infallible but there are honest people on here who have built a name for themselves and are recognizable. Without blowing my own horn I'm not gonna charge back and there are others who wouldn't either.  So this thread is for that.

Also - paypal may be changing their tune on bitcoins as I fought them on one case and they actually sided with me and are disputing the bank.  They accepted my block chain and screen captures as evidence.  It was only for one btc but we'll see what happens.  They did not say to me - you're screwed you can't do that. I also include and instruction book and the btc is a bonus.



Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: Blackout on October 16, 2011, 10:55:47 AM
Looking to buy some bitcoins via paypal right now... I am 100% trustworthy. Anywhere from 2 to 20 @ $4 each

PM, msg, or skype me: blackoutdotcom

aim: blackoutsboxlive


Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: whothefuckareyou on October 16, 2011, 06:24:45 PM
I'm looking for a constant reliable source who i can buy Bitcoins with paypal at market price.

PM me or reply here.

Thanks


Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: Blackout on October 18, 2011, 10:12:58 AM
Now that ExchB died - I am also looking for the same thing.  I can't deal with the 5 day lag on the trade sites.  If you have bitcoins to sell and want some cash instantly via paypal I will pay market rate or slightly higher for your trouble and I am 100% reliable no charge backs ever in my history of payments been on paypal years and years.

Please pm me.

Thanks

- Blackout


Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: generickid on October 19, 2011, 12:53:51 AM
Now that ExchB died - I am also looking for the same thing.  I can't deal with the 5 day lag on the trade sites.  If you have bitcoins to sell and want some cash instantly via paypal I will pay market rate or slightly higher for your trouble and I am 100% reliable no charge backs ever in my history of payments been on paypal years and years.

Please pm me.

Thanks

- Blackout


i'm at this point as well.. I pay all my bills through paypal and make a living doing web work. so i'm not on here to "play around" or scam anybody! I do have a lot in my pp account right now which I'm willing to transfer for bitcoins whenever.

if anybody is willing for quick cash I will provide payment instantly via paypal. looking for 10-30 bc right now... I'm even cool to wait a few days if you want to confirm the funds will transfer out of pp into your bank account before sending me the bitcoins. still new here, trying to build a solid rep

I have a good history on ebay and through payments via freelance work (web design, dev, mobile apps, etc.)

PM and i'll be happy to share more details and prove legitimacy


Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: whothefuckareyou on October 19, 2011, 08:48:51 PM
Try doing it in person...

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Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: Blackout on October 20, 2011, 07:06:00 AM
Traded with Imsaguy about 15 coins, smooth and reliable.



Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: imsaguy on October 20, 2011, 05:17:05 PM
Traded with Imsaguy about 15 coins, smooth and reliable.



Yes, it was quick and easy.


Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: Erratic on October 21, 2011, 11:10:23 PM
Now that ExchB died - I am also looking for the same thing.  I can't deal with the 5 day lag on the trade sites.  If you have bitcoins to sell and want some cash instantly via paypal I will pay market rate or slightly higher for your trouble and I am 100% reliable no charge backs ever in my history of payments been on paypal years and years.

Please pm me.

Thanks

- Blackout


i'm at this point as well.. I pay all my bills through paypal and make a living doing web work. so i'm not on here to "play around" or scam anybody! I do have a lot in my pp account right now which I'm willing to transfer for bitcoins whenever.

if anybody is willing for quick cash I will provide payment instantly via paypal. looking for 10-30 bc right now... I'm even cool to wait a few days if you want to confirm the funds will transfer out of pp into your bank account before sending me the bitcoins. still new here, trying to build a solid rep

I have a good history on ebay and through payments via freelance work (web design, dev, mobile apps, etc.)

PM and i'll be happy to share more details and prove legitimacy

Same problem here, I do freelance work online among other ventures and most of my cash goes into my Paypal, it is proving hard to find someone who will trade with me since I'm new, even on the OTC channel. I don't want to buy BTC though I want to buy a Mtgox redeemable code. If anyone is interested in a trade please hit me up with a PM.


Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: Blackout on December 03, 2011, 11:28:55 PM
Bumping this thread, I have now come to grips with gpg (pretty nuts) and have 2 ratings and am BlackoutsBox
in @bitcoin-otc

I am looking to buy either about 50 btc via ppl or moneypack



Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: jamesg on December 05, 2011, 03:25:05 PM
If there are reputable members on the forums who would like coin, I can help. You can PM me here or come over to the #bitcoin-otc irc. See my sig for my OTC ratings.


Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: blueadept on December 05, 2011, 08:59:32 PM
If there are reputable members on the forums who would like coin, I can help. You can PM me here or come over to the #bitcoin-otc irc. See my sig for my OTC ratings.

I'll vouch for him; we've completed 2 PPUSD<->BTC transactions so far in OTC. Quick, smooth transactions.


Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: Fiyasko on December 06, 2011, 06:48:28 PM
If there are reputable members on the forums who would like coin, I can help. You can PM me here or come over to the #bitcoin-otc irc. See my sig for my OTC ratings.

*cough* Well this is funny
We did alot of talking via PM's So much talking that i reached my dayly limit
So i came to post here (the location of you last post) To say, Thanks! Payment recieved!
And i've slapped you in the LHoT!~


Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: geek-trader on December 07, 2011, 10:44:55 PM
I have purchased BTC with paypal from both gusti and astana.  They were both great.  quick and no problems, great communication.


Title: Re: The Reliable Paypal buyers / sellers reputation thread
Post by: Yankee (BitInstant) on December 08, 2011, 01:22:27 AM
I have ALOT of USD in MtGox. Always looking for paypal.

I have definitely done business with more than half this forum  :D

Shoot me a PM whenever, always awake.

Charlie,
Bitinstant