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I have seen multiple threads where this guy is trying to sell his domain and gift cards and such, he is a scammer straight up.

His name is Matthew Vacanti and here is his picture http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ivjxfD-rj94/Sb7lKEE-54I/AAAAAAAAABs/6hIggGAF1ng/S220/IMG00111.jpg

He works at the Walmart Tire and Lube Express in East Syracuse NY tel: (315) 434-9873


heres what happened.


I PM'd him and said that I need a Godaddy gift card for $10, he gives me the amount and the a BTC address, he says that as soon as he receives the coins he will send me the card. I told him I needed this card right away. He said he would send it as soon as the coins confirm and then of course he disappeared.

Well unlucky for this scammer we live locally to eachother (like 30 mins away) I found his blog and found out who he is and where he works.

So I called his work and spoke to him, he told me some bullshit about how he didnt really have the gift card but he was buying it from some other site
and that site was taking too long. He said he would either send me the card or the coins when he gets back from work.

Then when he gets home he says he cannot get ahold of the person who he supposedly is buying this giftcard from and that he for some reason does not have my coins anymore.

This does not sound very good from a person who was operating a Bitcoin Site that Sold Gift Cards (thebitcardstore.com)

So now he says if I go to his work tomarrow to ask him for my money he is going to have me arrested.

I told him that is fine, if he cannot get the gift card or the coins tonight I will simply stop by his work tomarrow and he can give me cash and this ugly situation will be behind us.

He replies by saying that if I come to his work he will have me arrested.

It appears that he is refusing to send my coins back. I will keep this thread updated as to what happens after I stop by his work tomorrow.
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edit: after much pressure from myself and the bitcoin community he paid me back my coins. If your interested in a story of betrayal, walmart, furries, and possibly multiple personalities than please go ahead and read this thread. If such things do not interest you maybe you should move on.

Here is his side of the conversation. Sorry I do not have my side as it is not saved my default. But you get the idea of what happened here.

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I can do that for $11 usd, or 1.836 btc.

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I know what you mean actually.
I'm waiting for the coins to confirm, and when they do I'll send the code.

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please. If you do not have that card tonight. Just send me the coins tonight. I am sorry if I was wrong about you but I hope you can understand I felt like you were trying to rip me off. I really do not want this to get any uglier so lets handle this like gentlemen and do the right thing. Thank you. I will expect coins or card tonight.

well that's going to be a problem, see.. I don't have $10 cards so I ordered a code through a site that said I'd have the code by this evening and I don't. I 'd refund you the coins but I don't have them anymore. All I can ask is to sit tight and let this site process. Rest assured though I'm trying every way to get ahold of the owner of the site to work this out.
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Good luck, and if you do come on to Wal-Mart grounds I will have you arrested for stalking and intimidation. Ya know, if I knew you were in such a damn hurry, I wouldnt've accepted the deal. Yeesh.

First guess, he's buying the card from spend bitcoins The transaction is taking forever (18h when I bought a Godaddy card from there) and he has no idea how to handle having neither bitcoin nor gift code when there's a customer complaint.

Did you call the Bitcoin Police? Or are just going to post a thread in the Bitcoin forum and hope someone helps you out? Man up pussy.

Here's the phone # for the Bitcoin Police http://www.efwhyeye.com/?p=318 (http://www.efwhyeye.com/?p=318)

Go away Buttcoin..

you're a useless 'tard..  

Love this ignore button!

He's the same guy who was down and out and everyone offered him sympathy...

wtf.

If you love that ignore button, use it instead of responding to the people you are 'ignoring', tard.

Hahaha..

You're lovely for pointing that out.. Did that make you feel good ?

Grow up.

You're lovely for pointing out your views.

I don't think I would want my PR rep calling people tards. And I definitely would want them competent in high school grammar.

That's just me, though. I am sure your CEO wants you to call people archaic and offensive terms while exhibiting a poor grasp of the english language all the time.

Hello and welcome to the IBB, faggots.

Can I have a job?

OH! I think godaddy gift cards will be one of the items I add tomorrow on www.CheaperInBitcoins.com!

Hey man, he's gotta keep his girlfriend fed and pay for his rental car somehow.

I fixed it for you, I hope me responding to you, the spelling police, fills the loneliness you have.

I type quickly to convey thoughts and ideas.

Spelling mistakes are of little concern to me when typing with brevity.

I have a strong command of the english language when I choose to take the time to spell it out to the spelling police.

So please..

Get off your high horse. lighten up.

Maybe instead of pointing out trivial follies of others, you could be useful to the community.
 

This guy is turning out to be one of the most entertaining people on these forums.

His site was hilariously pathetic, but it doesn't stop there! Not only did he not have prices in BTC, not only did he charge more for cards than they were actually worth, not only did he spend a whole half an hour making his site, not only did he blame the Bitcoin community for him being pathetic, the whole time he was merely acting as trying to be an intermediary between the buyer and retailer!

Frito: What's the minus of thirty and twenty?
Joe: Uh, it's eighty. It's eighty billion dollars. That's a mighty big minus isn't it?
Frito: Yeah. I like money.

A PR rep should be more careful how they speak and type. Their judgement reflects upon the entities they represent.

The black bear blanket isn't selling well?

That's not likely to happen.  A brief scan of RandyFolds' post history reveals a surfeit of profanity and not much else.  You'd be well advised to use the Ignore button on him too.  

Ya, Ooops..

I just did that..

He trolls for the love of the game he says..
Some hobby of his..

Hey OP.  If you're going to include a picture of him, at least include a nicer one.  Posting that picture the way you did is just inconsiderate.  Try this one instead:
https://i.imgur.com/frzKD.jpg

If you look at his blog, you can find a picture of when they first met.

Touching really.

http://www.whalewatchingherveybay.com.au/images/operators/thatsawesome/thats-awesome-whale-hug.jpg

Im not going either way here, but leaning towards Logansryche....but again I could be wrong.

The evidence you provided only says that you bought a card from him...it didnt say on the condition that it be "sent out tonight"....jeez, Ebay's legal contract is usually some 30 days until completion.

Now it looks like he bought the site from somewhere else and its taking longer than super fast service....but unless I see that time constraint as a condition of the purchase, Im not blaming logansryche here.

The other part you could be tried for obsession. Going after him at work? Thats just wrong...and it could be illegal....d/k. But I suppose you want to say that your time for all this is worth $10...I mean theres a cost of doing business and there's a cost of purchasing too.

Ok to straighten a few things up so everyone's not confused.

cablepair IM's me out of the blue all frantic as fuck and asks if I can get him a godaddy card and asks how much. I tell him and he says he wants a $10 card instead. Me taking the oportunity to improve myself around here, accept and tell him I can get him the gift code so he can get his site back online. I stroll on over to spendbitcoins and get a godaddy code. They say it can take up to 12 hours and so I'm thinking everything's going smooth till I get an actual phone call from him while I was at work asking where the code was. When I explained that I should have the code by tonight, he says fine.
When I get home my inbox is full of him asking me where the code is as well as the forum inbox, to to mention posting his "computer business" and says that if I don't cough up the code tonight(which I can't do as I'm sure Jeremy's probly getting annoyed with all my IMs) he's going to show up at my work tomorow and demand it. I'm sorry, firstly this is not how business is conducted. Secondly, I don't have his coins because they went to paying for the code. Thirdly, I can site him for stalking, hacking and any other means of finding out where I work, where I live, my work schedule, and demanding for either one.

Once I get the code from spendbitcoins, I'm sending it to him. That was the deal. Spendbitcoins is holding up the line sort of speak.

1)  You sold him a single code you didn't have
2) When he calls you, you assure him it'd be later that evening
3) Later that evening rolls around, and you still don't have the code
4) You have the nerve to tell him "This isn't how business is conducted"

What was your store stocked with previously?  You don't have any inventory left...?

Edit: Wait, you're threatening to SUE an upset customer!?!

Man, I wanna send all my business you're way  ::)

Pardon me, never said I had one. I said I could get one. Yeesh.

1. No I didn't
2. I told him I should have the code by the evening, not my fault that I don't
3. It isn't! It's called harassment

So what you're saying is that everybody should buy directly from spendbitcoins and get their product both cheaper and faster.  Also, one less annoying shithead to interact with.

Lol, you said it not me. I said that's where I got it from.
Not my fault they delayed the code since you can't just purchase a godaddy card directly with bitcoins.

It's assholes like you that destroyed his business!

So you were lying when you said you got all those gift cards by buying them wholesale in huge lots for cheap?

lol this guy!

Logan, drop the not my fault anyone doing any form of buisness should know better than to promise to deliver before they have the product. Are you a scammer, no. Should you be even trying to do buisness here, Not without some serious modifications to your attitude and buisness practices.
Spend bitcoins will issue the code that is guaranteed and when it does you will send the code to the person who purchased it (cablepair). I want you to as a service to the community issue a public apology for your poor buisness pratices and next time you sell something pick any community member with a good reputaion and have them go over the details of the detail prior to going through with it.

Love putting words in my mouth, dontcha? I said I had access to cards for cheap.
Hell, I had access to a full warehouse full of em, just not for godaddy and others.

Deslok man, you've been friendly to me while others haven't.
I fully apologise for selling something I didn't fully have. I was so sure I could get the code since I've gotten stuff by email before in next to no time.
It was poor of me to rely on spendbitcoins and should have just said no, but I didn't.
I wanted folks to see that I could be trusted, but instead it's become more of a nightmare then when it started.
I guess I'lll get what's coming to me.

Well it would seem that the correct course of action at this point is to cancel your order and refund him his bitcoins, since he said he wanted one or the other by tonight.  I wouldn't think that would be a problem assuming you're portraying yourself as a legitimate business.  Regardless of who's fault it is(it's yours), that would be the appropriate action to take.

No, actually, back in your thread where you cried about not being able to get anyone to buy your cards, you said this:


Are we supposed to believe that somehow you buy the cards "in huge lots" only after people purchase them from you?  It sounds to me like you were bullshitting about your big business to give yourself an air of legitimacy, and you got caught claiming you buy your cards wholesale in big lots when what you actually do is wait until someone pays you and then turn around and buy the card at retail from someone else.  Which, by the way, is an idiotic way to run a business, but I think with the help of this forum, you may have figured that out by now.

The way spendbitcoins operates he can't get the coins back any faster than he can get the code at this point.

lol Why is "the forums" such a big deal. Like Bet these guys were both going back and forth like "Imma take this to the forums, then you'll look really stupid!" then the other guy is like "OH YEAH!?, well... Imma deny it all! On top of that I'm going to come up with some complex excuse for why I couldn't provide you a gift card!" and then buttcoin1 comes in and goes "YEAH!!"

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRktl14wawX_F6Ou-Ay6m9QfARKsZkal_D6qHJT0XXCrx1vmwoR

I've figured out alot about this forum actually... and you assumed wrong. You assumed I had bought a bunch of cards cheap, but you figured it out. I'm part of the referl program for gift card mall and got my cards from over there. Not that anyone cares anymore since  BitCard's no longer around.

Right, so now i'm in a bind and i'm paying for it.
Keep rubbing my past into it, maybe i'll do a trick.

The real suprise here isn't that logansryche is so incompetent that he can't fill a single order, but that someone actually placed a single order with logansryche.

The amount of fighting that goes on over 5 and 10 dollar transactions in these forums is both hilarious and depressing. Comedy value on that front peaked in logan's goodbye thread where he promised to pay back some guy the equivalent of U.S. $0.40 in BTC as soon as he had it.

Maybe he should do a chargeback....  OH WAIT

Currency of the future

There was also that guy who had a website designed by logansryche and then got charged for 7 hours worth of work for a broken POS.  So he's got 2 sales and 4 threads talking about what a jackass he is.  That's a pretty impressive ratio!

Who, the dude from IBB? Paid him back like the other day o.O

That makes it sounds like you knew what you were getting into, but just wanted any sale more. Like you said, there was a desperation to be accepted by someone else that clouded your choices.

Too late! BTW, what if you dont get the code? Is that cablepair's fault now? What scenario is there that it is your fault(at least partial fault)?

eh? DONT DRAG spendbitcoins in on this...or else...hmmpf!

I didnt know there was going to be a pity party anythime soon. OK, look....what happened to you in the past has nothing to do with this community. Whats coming is silence if you continue to try and seek attention....thats creepy. Learn how to conduct business and get on with it.

I think judge nighteyes ;) is going to find against both sides. NEXT CASE! ahem.....

Quick! Find a baby to chop in half!


With things getting all biblical in logansryche's other thread, it's more fitting.

I did know what I was getting into and was 99.9999999999999% positive I'd have the code in my email no longer then an hour. Well, one hour's obviously turned into 13 hours.

It's never too late to apologise. Any parent knows that. If for some reason spendbitcoins doesn't get me the code, then I'll have to wait till I get paid and give cablepair back his $10. I'm already spamming spendbitcoins' IM to get a response; so far, none.

I wasn't expecting one o.O

Uh....

Lol, and I didn't even start that one.

Who's parent's say that? Caylee Anthony's parents?







what? too soon?

Judge Folds finds you guilty of incitement of the second thread by locking the first before people were done mocking you. Your sentence is dressing up like a rat and letting Rassah have his way with you in whatever costume he chooses to degrade himself in. So sayeth the judge...

Look I'm all about the plight of the poor and everything, but when you find yourself in the position of owing someone half the cost of a can of Coke and you have to ask your customers to wait for your Wal-Mart paycheck if they want their $10 back, maybe operating a business is ill-advised at this point in time.

Lol. I had every right to lock my thread, sayeth the government that runs the internet.
There was no point in starting the second thread(and with a poll), and its point quickly shifted from me, to furries to pinkie talking about God lol. Last I read it was something to do with the Catholic Church or some nonsense. I had no part in it's creation, just the sharing of popcorn and soda.

Well there is more then one reason why BitCard isn't around anymore, bills is one of em.
I mainly even thought up BitCard so I could try and reintroduce stuff that was popular in my childhood.
True, baseball cards had their shot from the 1800s till 1985, but still. It was from my childhood and I wanted to share.
Pokemon became a huge craze fast and so did Yu-Gi-Oh and Magic and wanted to share them as well.
I'm actually thinking about going back to scrapping. It's the only thing I physically have alot of.
Was going to open a store about alot of people thought it was a bad idea so I didn't. Only thing left out of BitCard is the domain, and that's good till December. I'd hate to see it go to waste.

That was kind of my point...things would have run their course regardless. People finished their you-troll and moved on to fur-troll and god-troll. Soon it'll be Keynsian economics-troll and Atlas will roll in with philosophy-troll. It's just the way bitcointalk rolls, homie.

lol indeed.

No, in your other thread, you flat-out claimed that you bought your gift cards in huge lots for cheap from a wholesaler. [link] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=44283.msg530003#msg530003)  That's why when you revealed this wasn't true in the other "I quit" thread, you felt it necessary to say, "Yes I just admitted that I don't actually keep a stock of cards here." [link] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=44407.msg530084#msg530084)

You got caught bullshittin.  Quit making excuses.

lol i'm not

I believe those photos should be removed till permanently confirmed a scammer, but IMO, it seems like logan will pay it back as soon as can as he stated.

Trying to put the blame on someone else's "assumptions" when they're the result of deliberately misleading statements you made is an excuse, scammer.

if you say so

If you don't send the code now, cablepair cannot deliver it to his buyer SpendBitcoins to refill their stock.
Don't be surprised if you order takes forever to process ;)

and the vicious circle continues!

How about borrowing BTC 2 from IBB, refund your customer, then payback your loan when you get the refund from SpendBitcoins?

That's a bit redundant, no? It would take as much as time to try and get a refund as to try and get the card.
With everyone's outlook on me, I'm not too keen on borrowing anything from anyone.
I'm just here if that makes sense.

Talk to their PR guy if you want to be belittled a little bit in 8th grade grammar. Hell, who am I kidding...even eighth graders know the difference between your and you're.

1985? So the day little Logan decided he was finished with baseball cards was the day baseball cards died?

Talk about being wrapped up in yourself...  ::)

Ahahahahahaa

I actually felt bad about posting this, I was just really ticked off that he tried to sell me something that he does not have.


I wish he would post my side of the conversation, you would see that I told him several times that I need this code right now.

The thing that I do not understand is why can't he just refund the money? Ok, lets say he does not have the coins anymore fine, he spent them at gaybitcoinporn.com or something.

Why can't I just stop by his work and pick it up, are you telling me you have no way to get ahold of $11?

I mean literally I can drive to your work in 30 mins.

so sad.

Rule of Acquisition #1: Once you have their money, you never give it back.

I've bought gift "cards" for myself from GoDaddy.com before, and the first time I made a purchase from them, it took them 3 days to finally call my phone and verify/process my order. They unlock your account and don't verify after that. Guess which Randian Superman fox kitsune probably hasn't ever purchased a GoDaddy gift card!

"that's a bit redundant", "I am not too keen"...
You seem to fail to understand that you are not in a position to be picky like that...
You defaulted on your customer, you are responsible and liable, and whatever excuse you find to justify yourself, that does change that fact.
When I saw the topic of this thread I thought that cablepair was a bit of a stalker.
But seeing how you react when people propose you easy solutions to litigate this issue, I start wondering if you are not really being dishonnest.

Well, do as you feel like, but don't go complain that it's all Bitcoin's fault when your angry customer comes at your job and ask to talk to your manager.

   

 

Just to let everyone know, I'm working on Getting giftcards available for my website just need to integrate some things into the system to make purchasing them easy.
I'd say give me a week but I have a feeling it will be longer. Check back at www.CheaperInBitcoins.com for giftcards in a month!

P.S. Just purchased CheaperExchange.com :D
Which will be comming out in a year. If all goes well at the bank it could come out this year.
 :D

Logansryche:

In any case can you please just give me a response as to how and when your going to pay me back.

You obviously like attention and want people to like you here. So why not be a man and give me my money back and then I can close this thread and report your a good guy and you did the right thing?

Don't you think that if I had the ability to even refund it in cash I would?
I'm not only broke, I'm super broke. Both USD and BTC.
And if I take the loan from Sen, refund you your coins, and the card code does go through, I'm stuck with a code that's no good to me.
Now the only thing I can hope for is that I get the code soon or sell my domain soon so I can then refund you.
Until then, I'm stuck.

are you f'n serious?

the man is offering you a interest free loan for 2-3 weeks? and your not going to take it to make this right? when you knew damn well you were in the wrong.

Your a real piece of work. You know why your "super broke" because you pull bullshit stunts like this.

Here's my suggestion. Be a man for once in your life. Pay me back the damn coins you tried to scam from me, If you do get the godaddy code, and it is legit, sent it to me and when it checks out I will pay you for it. It's that simple.

Why would you not want to do the right thing? are you that much of a worm?

because i'm not in the position to bay back a loan.. if i take it, i can't pay it back.

This isn't how business is conducted!

Well no kidding lol.. even internet transactions through ebay take more then 24 hours.
trying to get ahold of Jeremy about this has not been easy, but I'm still trying.

So, what you're basically saying is that you probably won't give back Cable's money which means you are in fact a scammer?

OR

You don't understand what "interest free" means.

It's either or, not one or the other.

Wait, I'm confused.  Don't they teach business finance in week 3 of the Wal-Mart management certificate program?

He puts the tires on your car.
Managers don't put tires on your car.

Salaried Managers actually get paid pretty well. I live in a state that has pretty close to the lowest average income and they make about $60k/yr in small stores, store managers make around $150k in the same small store. The big stores, like I would assume Syracuse would have, would make quite a bit more.

No.

Interest free or not, if I take the loan, I still have to pay it back to Sen.
Money I don't have. And no, he will get his code to save his precious site.
When is the question... it's all on Jeremy to get it to me.

Lucky you, and yes.. I'm ASE certified to work on breaks, tires, front end, rear end, tune ups, shocks, etc...
Unfortunatly Wal-MArt only lets me change tires and change oil lol. Anything else is a liability... and for the record, I have people outside of these forums that will vouch for my unscammyness. Hell I have people in SL that can vouch for my unscammyness lol.

its not on Jeremy, its on you. You told me you had this gift card. You did not have it. Now you wont give me the coins back and you say it is someone elses fault. Your a scammer and a liar. I dont want the gift card anymore. I already went and paid the bill with a credit card. Something I did not want to do, I wanted to use Bitcoins but you ruined that didnt you.


You dont have to worry about me confronting you at walmart tonight I am just going to go talk to your manager and let him know you are a scam artist who rips people off online and that he should watch you while you are around the cash register, thats all.

You are pathetic beyond words but I think you already know that. That is why you don't care about what people think of you because you couldent possibly think any lower of yourself. I really pity you , I really do.

have a nice life. I hope 1.8 bitcoins was worth your integrity (and possibly your job at walmart)

Ya know you're an ass. I never said I had the card off the bat, I said I could get the card so yes, it's on Jeremy. And if you do get me fired, I know your information and will sue you. Enjoy it while you can.

YOU ARE A LIAR. AND YOU KNOW YOUR A LIAR. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? DUDE JUST ADMIT YOUR LYING THROUGH YOUR TEETH RIGHT NOW. TELL THE F'N TRUTH THAT YOU SAID YOU WOULD GIVE ME THE CODE AS SOON AS THE COINS CONFIRM AND THEN WHEN I CALLED YOUR WORK YOU SAID YOU WOULD EITHER GIVE ME THE CODE OR THE COINS BACK THAT NIGHT

TELL THE TRUTH FOR ONCE IN YOUR PATHETIC LIFE AND I WILL DROP THE WHOLE THING RIGHT NOW AND NOT MENTION ANOTHER WORD ABOUT IT HERE OR AT YOUR WORK.

your real quiet now right? how you going to be able to afford a lawyer to sue me if you cant even afford to pay back 1.8 bitcoins?

just tell the truth matt and the whole thing goes away.

I've aleady filed a restraining order on you. You set one foot in the store and you're in jail.
With stuff like this, it's all small claims court where I don't need a lawyer.
Now what am I supose to do when this code comes in? Shove it up my ass?
You bought the code, fine. That's on you. Don't pin this on me because you're too impatient to wait.
Even Ebay has a waiting period for stuff bought on there.

You want the truth? You're an asshole and a liar.

Do business with Logan?  GET A FREE RESTRAINING ORDER WITH YOUR PURCHASE.

Holy crap.

Logan.. I dont mind you

But, honestly.. a restraining order.. ?

Those take some time, and the party in question would have to be advised formally..

oh I get it now your a compulsive liar!


You got a restraining order that fast!

wow! are they selling restraining orders on Spendbitcoins.com now too?

Your a liar and a theif. Bottom line. I am not threatening to do anything at all to you that would warrant a restraining order. All I want is for you to either be a man and tell the truth on here or I am going to tell your boss at walmart that you are a scam artist.

Thats it.

And as soon as Jeremy from SpendBitcoins answers back my emails I am sure he will testify that your full of crap as well.

I dont want the coins or the card at all. I just want you to tell the truth.

You just fucking sat there and threatened you'd come to my place of work and get me fired! It's you who's the liar! And yes, the state police work rather fast, don't they?

I wouldn't worry too much. The court fees cost more then $10.

What created the problem was OPs lack of patience.

man, I really feel bad for you. Why make this web of lies any worse than it already is. Why not just come out and tell the truth.

are you denying you said this:

It's great how a furry can wander on a board full of hardcore minarchists, trolls, self-righteous blowhards who don't understand the difference between "profit" and "revenue", and people who white knight Bruce - oh, and Atlas - and still manage to be the most despicable, sleazy, two-faced, dishonest, and downright stupid person (or kitsune-gryphon, whatever) on the board.

Even Atlas is a better businessman than you.


Also, as you say every other post, "lol" at the idea of getting a magic restraining order where the police don't actually contact the person being restrained. I'm sure "lol" is exactly what the person on the other end of the phone would say if you called to take out a restraining order on someone whose name you don't even know. Like most furries, you watched a few Lifetime movies and think you know how the big boy world works.

you can have my name, hell I already gave you my address my self.

I dont care about that restraining order crap we all know thats a lie and I have not done anything to warrant a restraining order. Matt all i want you to do is tell the truth man seriously. Tell the truth thats it and I will change the title and the original post so people stop coming here. I will end the whole thing I just want you to be a man and tell the truth.

You lied to me about having a card.
When I called you at work you lied again.

I dont know what your intentions were, maybe you were planning on getting me a card somewhere down the line. Who knows, but please tell the truth you had me beilive that as soon as the coins confirmed you were going to give me a code that you did not really have.

Wow logansryche, you really have no concept regarding morality and ethics do you? Congratulations for alienating yourself from the bitcoin community. Nobody will ever take you seriously, and more importantly, nobody will ever do business with you ever again.

logan: what do you think Jeremy West from Spendbitcoins.com is going to say. Do you think he is going to back up your story? I think not. He is going to expose you so why not just tell the truth now.

Oh he will.. I placed the order right when you gave me the coins.
He'll contest to that.

Had to get this from my fience who thinks the whole thing was a headache in the making.. but what's your account and I'll send it.

1GnSekWQL7ESyiA9NqY499amHJTDWMtW93

and I will confirm on here when it has been paid.

Sent.. still dunno what i'm going to do when I get this code in the email(that i'll still push to get).
Hope you're happy -.-

I think it'd be funny if logan and cable are the same bored person.

tell your fiance thank you, she has a lot more common sense than you do.

logan paid me back (hasnt been confirmed yet but its getting there)

good thing his old lady keeps a couple of Bitcoins around the house for emergencys!

take care...

No, more like beat me over the head and stole my wallet.. but yeah.
Well at least there's a bright side: whenever Jeremy does get me the code, I can post it up for sale next to the domain i'm selling.
I'd say it was a pleasure doing business with you but it wasn't.

I think what is more telling here, is that for someone trying to run a business, if he doesn't have $10 in capital to credit a refund, then he probably shouldn't be trying to run a serious business with at least some float cash.

In short, logansryche, you take the cake for the biggest moron on these forums. And that really is a special honor, considering the state of these forums.

Stick to your job at Walmart; something that doesn't require anything more than basic motor-neurons firing.

It was almost a sure fire thing though. Cablepair needed a card and I was so sure I could get it.
I did in fact order the card. I just snapped this from my wallet.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/logansrun/proof.jpg

The red box is what I just paid Cablepair.
The blue box is the address I was gaven from spendbitcoins to pay for the $10 card, thus proving I paid for it.
I'm out for a bit, fience's grandma needs help with some stuff over at her place.

My grandpa always said: "son, there's one very important thing you must know: never do business with a furry!" And now I know what he meant by that, blessed be his soul.

Man you are such a liar!

Neither one of those transactions are on Block explorer.

Please someone verify this and tell me I am crazy and this dude is not lying about this.

infact block explorer says : 1HDwpgaYw6uNz1Syy7ZM2VTbbipFTF1fim is an invalid address
and those 2.01 coins you supposedly sent me have not confimed even 1 time

You know if he can blur lines and add stuff to the screenshot he's also able to fake the transactions. All you need is the right font & size and then you can trick anyone into thinking it actually happened!!

*COUGH* What??? O.O

ok my bad we got one confirmation now looks like he really sent me the coins back. But its proof that he was lying all along. (not that it matters now we already knew he was a liar)

the transaction right under mine on that "screen shot" of his is completely fake


go ahead click the link

http://blockexplorer.com/address/1HDwpgaYw6uNz1Syy7ZM2VTbbipFTF1fim

He probably sent you the coins if you see it as 0/unconfirmed. I'd wait for the confirmations. As for the other address, it's not in the block chain.

It looks like to me 1HDwpqaYw...

That should be http://blockexplorer.com/address/1HDwpqaYw6uNz1Syy7ZM2VTbbipFTF1fim

ok thank you. I was really hoping someone would prove me wrong. Thanks trentzb :)

business and fience

Holy crap man.  You turned into the biggest douchebag on the internet, which isn't easy, and all because you were impatient over 10 fucking dollars?  What the fuck is wrong with you?  Did someone just kick your dog?

When she stretches around the house, she really stretches around the house.

The lines have been drawn... the trenches have been dug...

https://i.imgur.com/sdTrb.jpg
 ???

There is no need for this. Logan paid back, the photos should be removed, thread to be locked.

Stop bashing on the lady you stupid fucks.

If you didn't feel compelled to use swear words at me, I might be slightly more inclined to agree with you. But as it stands, you come across like a twerpy hall monitor who desperately wants to feel "in control" of something. Move along.

Omy, this forum. He paid the OP back, what is the need to bash the lady? To make yourself feel better? What another fuck stick in this forum.

Does cussing make you feel like a grown-up?  ???

The only guys who bash on other peoples ladies are guys who don't have ladies themselves.

It's okay Cussmob, I'm sure with your magnetic personality you'll have a mate in no time  ::)

You can't spell fiance one letter away from fence and not expect that shit. I'd have gone for that even if I had no idea what she looked like. That's a very impractical shape for a fence anyway.

I think the only people who don't bash on ladies are the ones desperate for a date, any date whatsoever.

Don't worry, "johnj", I'm sure eventually some lurking girl will read your posts and see what a sanctimonious-- er, "valiant" young man you are.

logansryche has demonstrated several times now that he's a morally questionable immature manchild, predisposed towards lying and scamming, filled with a tremendous sense of entitlement and questionable grasp of reality, and utterly incapable of taking neither criticism nor responsibility for his own actions.

Do we really need to lower ourselves to making fun of his fiancée's appearance?

Ahh, so you're after Logans girl huh?

Better watch out Logan, smooth operator Cussmob is on the prowl!  8)

Keep it up, maybe she'll set you up on a date with Odie.

Wouldn't that make it the third time you've been fired from the same fucking wal-mart.

Ha ha

E: also, cablepair, I'm on your side and everything but it's "You're" as in "You are".  Fuck, man.

I agree that bashing his girlfriend is pretty low.  I don't think the fact that he paid the buyer back makes him OK, though.  Not by a longshot.  He had to be repeatedly called out in order to do the right thing, he still doesn't see that the whole transaction going wrong was his own damned fault (sorry bud, but it's your own fault that you had such a lousy plan for fulfilling orders, not the fault of thebitcardstore), and now that he's finally paid the buyer back, he's acting like a pouty child over the fact that he's going to be "stuck" with a gift card himself.  Guess what, dipshit?  Selling gift cards was supposed to be your business!  Sell the goddamn thing to someone else and quit whining.  The fact that you don't have enough of a buffer to cover one single transaction means you were a failure from the start.  Jesus fucking christ, what kind of entrepreneur doesn't understand that you might need at least $10 on hand to run a retail business?

Also: I hope cablepair shows up at Walmart and introduces himself, just to find out whether he's going to jail immediately due to the restraining order you magically got in the middle of the night, or if you were lying about that too.

This...

I am not defending logansryche, but you have stooped to the same level. You're both monkeys for hashing this out in public.

Actually I just received a message from Jeremy and said something about the process messed up.
To answer atlas' question, it was 2 different wal-marts lol.
Keep bashing and I'll keep laughing, I have enough popcorn.

Hmm...

That screenshot changes things. It appears that logansryche has been lying this entire time. I was going to redact his personal information from this thread, but now I cannot. This scammer investigation just got reopened (I've been watching and gathering information this entire time). It will remain open until we get information from spendbitcoins. However, nothing will be redacted afterwards, regardless of the outcome.

Er sorry, I haven't kept up with everything.  How does the screenshot he provided prove imply his guilt?

I don't see it off hand, but I'm super curious how he's managed to stick foot in his mouth, yet again.

Notice that there is a transaction missing. Where's the transaction from his fiance?

Hi there. This was indeed my stuff up, not logansrysche's.

I was unaware of any of this until I woke up about 20 minutes ago (just past 7am here in Australia).

Here is what happened.

20 Sept 2011:
--At 1913 UTC a payment of BTC 1.69 was confirmed in my wallet.
--At approximately 2000 UTC I processed orders, and this GoDaddy gift code was sent to the email address from which it was ordered (I was not aware there was a third party involved).
--A few times yesterday logansryche IM'd me "Are you there?" but I wasn't.
--When I got to my IM, I replied "What's up?" but there was no response.
--When I woke up this morning, there was an email from loganrysche saying he had not recieved the gift code and a PM from cablepair directing me to this thread.
--I forwarded the quote I fulfilled to logansryche, noting that the email address on the quote was different from the email address he emailed me from.
--Logansryche replied, saying it is not his email address, and he doesn't know who's it is.
--I looked back at the quotes and realised I received two quotes for $10 GoDaddy gift codes at nearly the same time, and that I accidentally sent the gift code to the person who just got a quote and DID NOT send payment. I use different receiving addresses for each quote for this very reason, but as I have never received two quotes for the same thing at nearly the same time, I was careless and did not check the receiving address, just the amount. Won't do that again!

Anyway, I am refunding logansryche's bitcoins now as he does not want a GoDaddy gift code. Good thing this was only $10 and not $1000! I can afford a $10 lesson.

I'm not following.

the first address(the one to cablepair) is http://blockexplorer.com/address/1GnSekWQL7ESyiA9NqY499amHJTDWMtW93 which is confirmed with 21 confirmations.
The second address(the one to Jeremy) is http://blockexplorer.com/address/1HDwpqaYw6uNz1Syy7ZM2VTbbipFTF1fim which is also confirmed with 165 confirmations.

You say you had to borrow money to pay him back.

But in your screenshot, there is no deposit (the funds you borrowed), only 2 withdrawls.

This means you already had the funds.  Why lie about having to get funds?

(I think I'm following this correctly)

Nope. Those funds came off Mt. Gox. I'm not sharing that.
Point being, Cablepair was refunded the money so this thread shouldn't be continuing but hey guess what... it is.

His point is that you claimed to not have any BTC to pay him back, and had to get it from your fiance yet there is no transaction for this, seeing as the payment to him is confirmed they must have come from this account and therefore either your fiance must have paid you a while back or you had funds already there, either way you held off refunding him by saying you had no funds when you must have had some.

You paid him from that account, therefor ethe funds must have entered that account.

i suggest you call the bitpo (bitcoin police) !

Either way its looked at, I paid him back end of discussion.
Jeremey even came into this post and apologised for the mix up.
DROP IT!

Just because you have access to funds doesn't mean you can spend them.

I could go buy a bunch of shit for two grand right this minute, but then in nine days, I wouldn't have that two grand to pay my rent. See how such a situation can arise?

Your landlord accepts bitcoins?

Again, logansryche has a history (https://i.imgur.com/k2xLi.png) of being a liar/scammer/immoral guy. Why are you so surprised that he didn't in fact need to borrow a ridiculously small amount of money from his fiancée?

When you applied at your current wal-mart position, did you disclose that you've been fired from 2 other wal-marts?  Have you worked a job that wasn't wal-mart?

I have and after 30 days, you're out of Wal-Mart's system unless you were fired for something really serious(like assult or stealing). If you're also inquiering, I was let go the first time because of attendance, and the second time because I was injured on the job(messed up my spine because of that mess).

What if they keep a joint btc wallet? I know I used to have a joint household account with my domestic partner. She woulda been PISSED if I was dipping into it for my own shit without talking to her.

Once again, I am not defending this guy, but I am not condoning jumping down his throat for an innocent mistake. He did some bad business. Nothing more...it's not a scam. It's fucking drop shipping, and it's one of the most common sales techniques on the internet.

I don't think he was scamming in this case, no. But I think it's fairly obvious he he lies about pretty much everything (from having cards in stock, to obtaining restraining orders, to all the stuff in the CartsForCoins thread where he lied about how much work he put in/the size of OpenCart modules) and we don't need the lack of a wife-to-husband BTC transfer to doubt his story which is largely irrelevant in the scheme of things.

Well seeing how mc_lovin is happy with his cart and is accepting orders, I don't think that's 1/2 bad.
I don't know of any online company that doesn't fudge stock numbers. If you ordered 20 physical gift cards of say, McDonalds. I could go out and physically get and send you 20 McDonalds gift cards. Why me instead of you doing it yourself? Lazyness. Did I just add to your accusation? Yes. Did I just admit to it? Yup. Is there anything I can do about it? Nope.

No one wants to look the fool.

Want do you want out of this? He has admitted to his poor business practices. This thread came about because of his ridiculous message that he was folding his store, so we don't need to worry about it occurring again (hopefully).

Once again: all he did was drop ship something, and he hit a snag and tried to not look like a jackass. I order parts from all over the world for my business, and I have had much worse delays due to the same BS...it's just the nature of online retail.

Yeah but no one cares about that though.
They just care about poking at me whenever I fuckup on something.

ATTENTION EVERYONE!
ATTENTION EVERYONE!
I am openly admitting that this deal was entirely my fault. Cablepair came to me and asked me for a gift card. He didn't ask if I had one, just that he needed one. I mislead him into thinking I had a card lying around like yesterday's news and so he paid me. Did I fuckup? Oh yeah, majorly. Am I a scam artist? No.. I thought the deal was in the bag, but no one will care about that. They'll only see that I fucked up and lable me a liar/cheater/scammer/whatever.

So there it is.
Hope you're happy Cablepair.

Dude, you started a thread yelling at everyone for driving you out of business; a business in which you had very little time and capital vested that offered overpriced things that no one but an EXTREME specialty market was into. You have hardly earned the luxury of feeling sorry for yourself here.

Lest you forget, I was one of the people poking fun at you. I am starting to think you might just be the troll-king of bitcoin.

Your sort-of-apology there is what should have happened a bunch of pages ago.

There ya go lying again. It wasn't entirely your fault. Jeremy posted above that he had a little mixup with the email addresses. :)

Ahahaha! Nice catch.

Nope but Cablepair said in PM that he wouldn't admit any wrong doing of me or lock this thread until I publicly claimed that everything was my fault, so there it is.

I for one apologize for calling you a scammer when you were merely incompetent, rude, and refusing to acknowledge your mistakes.  Please don't file a restraining order against me.

ok

You want me to lock the thread? That will take actually taking responsibility for your actions not some bullshit lines to try to appease me.

I don't care that your intentions might of been to somewhere down the line buy a gift card off of someone else and then give it to me.
I could of bought the card of SpendBitcoins.com. YOU represented to me that you HAD THE GIFT CARD TO SELL ME. You lied to me multiple times. To do what? Make $1? You represented that you ran this web site Thebitcardstore.com or whatever and you had all kinds of gift cards. When I called you at your work you I told you in a very gentleman-ish way that I needed the card tonight and if you could not provide it to me I want my coins back. You agreed to this. Again another lie.

Maybe your intentions were not to rip me off completely. But I expect you to be a man and admit that you lied, and misled me multiple times. If you do that, admit that you lied, and then you lied again, and then you lied again in the forums to cover up your lies and all the other bullshit that ensued.

I will actually have some respect for you for finally doing the right thing and I will honor that by locking this thread up and accepting your apology.

Look, everyone was supporting you because it was a trade dispute and you were right. Now, you got your money back, the guy obviously wants to make up and you are still trying to bash him. You need to lock this thread or ask the mods to take it to off-topic. Or 4-chan...

ok. I agree with you.