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Yes, it's a real bounty. I want someone to conduct a sanity check on me, my posts actually. Not that I truly need validation; just figured this could be interesting (for me at least). I'll try to be brief, after all, you might have some extensive reading to do if you want to claim this bounty.

Background:
Either I don't understand, people don't understand, or there's some type of unknown communication barrier thing going on that I evidently don't understand. Anyways, I find myself having to break 'stuff' down into small bite size pieces just to get a point/idea across. WTF? .03 is what I offered someone who misinterpreted a point I made. I asked him to show me where I said 'it' for .03 btc. Needless to say he didn't even acknowledge my challenge, but kept coming back with trivial rebuttals. He didn't want the bounty so I'm offering it away.

Task:
Review my post history and tell me what you think. Do I make any kind of sense, do I just don't get it, what the hell am I missing? Do I put too much thought into it? Put your higher thinking level hats on and help me understand, it's your assessment. This task will require that you revisit some of the threads I posted/responded to get the whole picture. So simply going to my profile and scrolling my posts may not give you all the info you need.

Reward:
.03 btc awarded per contribution. The amount you end up with depends on how substantial the contribution is. Substantial doesn't necessarily mean length in this context. You'll have to explain your position, providing reference links if you'd like.   

Bonus .05 - There are a few inquiries I made I felt were valid. Based on my perception, as your contributions are based on yours. If you find them and help me make sense of them, I'll give you an extra .05 btc. You'll have to find them all. This is not impossible; you'll recognize them when you see them. 

Rules:
There's no limit to the number of times any one person can contribute and a post can contain more than one contribution. Repeating/rewording what's already been stated without further insight is not considered a contribution. You are free to ask me probing questions.

Twist:
Just to keep in interesting... Your contribution can be challenged by others and you can challenge others' contribution. The winner of the challenge gets the bounty.

Deadline:
I suppose we can give it a few days? Until the bounty is all gone? Let's just play it out, see how it goes. Bounty will be paid at the time of contribution.

You're not crazy, but what you do is post a lot of very opiniated things. People tend to react negatively to things they don't agree with. Also, if you want people to take you seriously, don't do things like put arrows next to your words and have a whole bunch of exclamation points and things. That does make you seem a bit crazy. When you retaliate to people like that, they think you're a bit bonkers and treat you like such. Try toning it down a bit.

I sifted through a few pages of your posts:

This is a VERY Diverse forum different levels of education, different backgrounds, beliefs and cultures, as well as many different countries and language barriers and translations.

You combine that with the following:  Internet forums consist of internet bad asses, people correcting grammar, people that just like to fight, people with different points of view, people that logic escapes them, etc.

You are entitled to your opinions and can post however you feel like, but will always have people nit picking and arguing because at the end of the day you are on the internet and people express their opinions that might not agree with yours or they think they can do whatever they want hiding behind a computer screen.

You're/Your reading too much into people questioning what you post on the internet!!!!!!!!!!!! <-------  ;D

 

this thread is crazy

Your posts are on topic and make sense when you respond. Good use of quotes, and replying, it helps the context.

The tone of voice behind your words is strange. It's lighthearted, sarcastic, and serious. It's funny to read how you react to things, maybe even too seriously at times. It's alright though, the internet needs you.

Here are some examples:

Thank you guys for responding :)  Perhaps I should've done this on a day where my few posts weren't centered around having a little bit of fun. There's so much more. Not sure why, but I decided to entertain the thread that inspired me to post this bounty. Outcome below. While most of what's said don't apply to you 3, the main point does. Distractions aren't always bad though.

But I applaud your bravery to take this on; it would be a challenge for me and I get paid to think! Take a moment and skim it. There's a fun game at the end :)




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you are a woman. so yes you are insane :) jkjk   lol idk if this counts as contributions

btc address 1AApYe6PAMFZ4U1zsxDGwJjRufFENm8wZc

I found the reason.

http://imgur.com/PHVmQaw

Well evidently you're an idiot :D


And you seem to get confused a lot :D

But after taking everything into consideration, I would say you are has sane as the next person on here...

Well done. You captured the essence that tone is for the benefit of the reader. I get a sense you appreciate higher level thinking so I have confidence the first bounty is yours :) Just one inquiry:

A common reason tone is used in text is to enhance the message for the purpose of further engaging the audience. I think it gives a sense of personalization to the reader, of course with the caveat that everyone's perception is different. But that's not a bad thing, we're individuals after all. I'm curious though... why is it strange? It's versatile (like real life), I presume effective for those who can appreciate. There's got to be more to it than the typical nerd stereotype shenanigans we're all familiar with. Surely we nerds are smart enough to realize this, right? Or do I need to find a forum for intellectuals?

Please respond with your thoughts and bitcoin address :)

I believe you give too much importance to what others think. This is an online forum, of course you'll come across hordes of stubborn egomaniacs who won't try to begin to understand what you have to say.

Your writing style shows you have a lot of manic creativity, and that's certainly not a bad thing! To others it may seem like a lack of sanity, but I think it's the opposite: its the expression of a higher level of life. As long as you're able to never lose sight of pure reason, like you seem to do well, I don't believe there's any problem.

Thanks :)
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And I have to say your posts are quite entertaining, it feels like reading a joyful version of William S. Burrough ;)

This post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=356827.msg3816652#msg3816652) is very clear since:

• You had good use of bullet points
• The post was long, but still easy to read
• Good job, I like bullet points  :D
• A lovely string of b.points here too (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=159657;sa=showPosts;start=400).

Thank you
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edit:
This one
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=357364.msg3844128#msg3844128
might be easier to read if you had used some bullet points in the long first section.

lol, aren't we all? ;D  Sorry, a contribution but it could be the start. ;)   I'm surprised you snagged that comment; it was embedded deep between the novels I feel compelled to write sometimes. Heck, people who's followed me around a time or two still thinks I'm a guy. I'm sure an even bigger surprise to find out I'm black.

lol so it was a contribution

your also an avid poker player witch could add to the crazyness. atleast you like action and swings so ya

Hello Vod. I'm a little surprised you navigated this way; thought I made your ignore list. But even if so, no insult taken. I'm used to not having many willing to challenge me.

But thank you for capturing this :)  I totally consider this a gift (I'm sure the opposite of your intentions). Actually... isn't 6 considered the perfect number? Interesting. You know, sometimes I wonder what's the alternative motive (if there is one) behind some of your posts. Conversations I've held with people of few words are sometimes more enlightening than most. I suppose because 'quite' people don't spend a lot of time running at the mouth, they actually have more time to reflect. But oh boy, when they decide open their mouth. They could blow your mind.

All right here goes nothing. First of all, please don't take offense to anything I'm saying. These are merely observations combining my experience communicating in a work environment, on this thread, and in life.  :)

#1 Look at the above sentence. How does it sit with you? What do you perceive to be my tone? Being more specific, what does the smiley face emoticon accomplish? How would the tone change without it? These are questions worth considering because you use a lot of smiley faces. The problem is, you seem to use them in every scenario. When you're critiquing someone, it may come off as coy, sly, and usually has a hint of condescension. Or, the reader simply won't know what to make of it. In my opinion, smiley face emoticons are some of the most ambiguous, frustrating, and frankly annoying ways that people try to communicate their feelings. I only use smiley faces when communicating with my wife. When I receive them from coworkers, I see it as unprofessional. When they are used frequently, I tend to think that the person using them is too insecure to be direct.

#2 Expectations. You're overall tone is professional. This is good because I'm assuming that you're moneymaker job is handling court cases and not responding to users on a bitcoin forum. It's also something that people don't really expect to see in a thread. It's a politeness that is largely absent wherever identities are unknown. When users see this type of communication in an environment where flame wars occur everyday and trolls abound, they're not sure what to make of it. It may come across as fake or again, condescending because of their expectations for how people communicate. I'm sure you don't mean to do this, and I wouldn't take this to the bank, but it's worth thinking about what type of user is on this thread and what they're expectations are for communicating.

Personally, I think you are a good communicator. I think if you went easy on the smileys people would respect you more. Also, I think you could be more direct when the situation calls for it.

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I was just making a joke.   ;)  Why would you make my ignore list?  What did you do?

You're warm! Hopefully since you discovered this you'll be able to finish before someone else takes it.

You actually took BOTH of these out of context, but I'm glad you dug up the second part. :)  Here's your chance to get .03BTC and redeem yourself. A bonus inquiry is also part of this thread. But unfortunately you're thought process is somewhat skewed for this task and you over looked it. So now you and everyone else knows where to find 1 out of the 5 bonus items. Get all of them - you'll be awarded .05!

Ok, back to where you can find free coins -
First, I'm not confused. I hope you know that I'm not really an idiot, nor do I think of myself as such. I was being facetious in both of these posts. Sorry it went over your head. The first post has some significance (overall). Your takeaway from that post should've been that I must be pretty damn confident in my intelligence level to call myself an idiot on a public forum. If* you change your perspective from me being an idiot, to actually having a broad knowledge base, you can succeed here.

Clarification for everyone since you messed this up:

NOT ME:
"Epic confusion.
A 51% attack is then the attacker blockchain voluntarily ignore every other blocks. An honest 51% holder would accept the blocks found by other people."

ME:
"Well I'm sure as hell confused now if I weren't before. Are you talking about a blockchain fork, pseudo blockchains and such? No... wait, that can be done if the powerhouse pool wanted to do such a thing... but just to make sure I understand.... you're saying that if the pool with the majority of computing power is honest, it will accept other pools' blocks? Forgive my confusion... I just don't understand what this has to do with the price of rice in China."

Again, totally NOT confused. Perhaps you'll be somewhat impressed. To clarify what occurred in that part of the thread - that person attempted to insult my intelligence. The end result was the other way around - I made him look confused, because he was. Not me. Do outside research if you must, to get an understanding of forking, pseduo blockchains, and 51% attacks. You'll miss it if you don't understand these concepts.

Everything I stated in that post was deliberate. When you read the thread, you'll see how my response to him is actually offensive (yet playful). This isn't even the post that I actually called him out on; when you read that part, you'll probably laugh.

Good luck!

Oh darn! It was supposed to say 'not' a contribution, my b!

you are a gambler so like action

Well, damn! It's about time, lol. I really wasn't sure if you were joking or what, but it's no biggie. So, I posed an inquiry (maybe two or three?) some time ago in the lending forum, the one you troll. :)  Needless to say, I thought some were rather valid but I just couldn't seem to get anyone to give me the info I was looking for. Anyways, because you seemed to disappear (not just on that thread), I wasn't sure if you could see my posts or not.

Vod just made me expose another clue people!!!

Actually I don't really care for action. And I wouldn't really call myself a 'real' gambler per se' because I tend to hang out in the casino slots. If anything, you'd think I know better  ;)  I do, lol. I just like slots. And I choose some of the ones I play for non-strategic reasons. But I'm actually getting out of the slots realm. Too many cheaters out there. I have several inquires in the casino thread that are valid, yet unanswered (hint). Happy hunting!

I wish! I'm actually really bad at poker! No skills, lol.

Thanks for the compliment :) It's this forum that's actually the entertaining part.

you have very valid reasons here and have made john look like a fool. and this casino needs to not be used

there shouldnt be words like most or probally in the toc for sure also...

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Although edok didn't post specific references, I underlined the parts that as a whole, is what I consider a contribution (but be sure to explain your position so your reward doesn't pend). Yes, some of the things stated have already been said or may be common knowledge, but collectively, he gave me more to ponder on (further insight). All I want are his explanations now. Do I necessarily agree with his position about emoticons? Honestly, I don't know because I never thought about it from his perspective. Once he posts his responses I'll have more information to consider. Whether I agree with him or not, isn't why he's getting a bounty.

While I do appreciate compliments, I'm not seeking them; I don't want anyone to think that's the case (I toot my own horn quite frequently actually  ;)  But this is a good example of the type of entries I'm looking for.

edok, please provide valid explanations of the underlined.  Just so everyone knows, this isn't a valid explanation: "I see it as unprofessional" - Because we're adults.


I'm pretty open minded, so there's little that actually offend me. It's not that I have a 'don't give a shit' attitude (because I do care, too much sometimes), it's just well... complicated.

Yeah, you definitely found another good example, the hardest probably (this thread also contains a bonus answer).

Can you be more specific? What do you agree with and why? Did I go overboard on that thread? Am I minding other people's business? Was I wrong in any way? Did I misinterpret something? Do you think I should expose all his lies like I said, why/why not. Why do you think the OP is ignoring me?

Those are just examples of the type of feedback I'm looking for. Digest the material and tell me what you think and why. Give it as much thought as you can; you'll come up things I didn't even think about. That coinbet thread is a mess! But interesting indeed :) I made a lot of points on that thread. But are they valid?

i agree that the owner of the site would always take his own word over customers. you cant gave sometimes or grey area TOC on a gambling site.
you didnt go overboard one bit and if someone thinks you did they are just being a troll and or dont care about the well being of customers or clients at the site and obviously you do as yourself are one.

if u misinterpreted something so did i. i dont think you did anything wrong by pointing all this out. if theres something shady about a site it needs to be awknoledged and taken care of or explained better and the site owner ignoring you is not good for him and is showing his weakness and shadyness in my opinion.

oh and for everything being valid. its brought up in the sites official thread. the right place for things such as this to be brought up. well done

Sorry it some time to reply; got other stuff going on, trying to wrap it up for the night. I completely skipped over your post; didn't even see it earlier. But I'm sure since I've responded to a couple of posts with more details/examples of what I consider to be a contribution you know this one doesn't quite fit the bill :(  But I have question for you... Type A personality?  ;)  no judgement, I'm one.

also i feel the owner is just trying to cover himself up and make himself look better by bashing on you and you calling him out. but in reality its just making him look more guilty and shady.


and just trying to get this one bounty not the whole bonus as i need to sleep tonight lol

i also picked the casino one cause ive been there and i hate how shady some gaming sites are with there TOC.

i believe that TOC are supposed to straight forward and able to state the rules and normal stuff like this clearly yet this site does not.

not good

i agree with basicly everything u said

i do however believe that if u are under the same ip as somsonee else you should have to verify that only one account per person if necessary but the TOC doesnt sya that

tl;dr
op a narcissist?

Well after going trough your posts for a while I see you like to challenge everything. What I mean by this, is that whenever someone posts something they have to give a good reason to why they did what they did. I noticed this because I'm sometimes like that. This also shows that you most likely have a high education, that is you are a smart person, because you are not afraid to challenge everything and find out for yourself why is something the way it is. Sometimes though you think that you can accomplish more by insulting someone other then by explaining to them your opinion politely (have to say you sometimes do this).
Do I think you are a crazy person? No, most of us are like that these days. Frustrated. Challenging. Want to learn more and so on. So if you are crazy then I suppose most of us are.

Thank you for the compliment. Although, I view myself as another average human being. :P

Since I stated your tone is both lighthearted and serious, as I was reading, I could only wonder if you were a troll or a serious poster. That's what was strange to me. Your words also felt driven by emotion, and I began to suspect you were a woman.
Women think much more differently and see the world differently than men, so maybe that's why you butt heads with other posters. I've noticed you are quite good at taking a post, thinking more about it, and continue with other thoughts. I don't. I like short, simple, and to the point.

Nerds will be nerds. The internet is filled with every kind of person, so you'll end up with "non-intellectuals" wherever you go. I like Reddit.

My thoughts are written above. As for additional thoughts, I wouldn't flaunt your intellect. If you're smart, people will notice. No need to state it. You can come off as cocky and arrogant while people appreciate someone who's humble. Just let your words/actions show it.

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how did i do with my last response cris i tried to explain as much as possible.

Here is an example of where I think you could be more clear and direct. "Because we're adults" - what does this mean? Seems maybe a little...backhanded? I'm not really sure how to read it or if I should take offense. I would certainly say to another adult at work the phrase "I see this as unprofessional". In my mind it's a valid statement where I'm expressing my opinion about something.

Also, by valid explanations do you mean links/references to your posts? I'll try to flesh some of them out below, but I might not have time to provide specific links. Otherwise, I'm not sure what makes my explanations invalid. They are my observations and opinions.



My point is that smiley faces often make communication more confusing. For example, if I said to someone "Have you had the time to send over that report?" that is a relatively clear message. If I say, ""Have you had the time to send over that report? :)" this creates confusion on behalf of the reader. Is the writer frustrated at the reader but trying to be nice? Are they genuinely smiling after saying this? Why would they smile after asking for a report? The tone changes and the message becomes unclear. This is why I personally find smiley faces frustrating.

For example, I'm okay with this:

These smileys below, the use of the word "actually", and the elipses give this beginning of this message an uncomfortable tone. It ends very well and you encourage the person which is great, I'm commenting on how it starts. That's the best way I can describe it. I'm not a psychologist so I'm sorry I don't have anything else to go on:



I see this at my work a lot, even when communicating with clients. I see it as unprofessional. Not really sure what else to say. This isn't a professional forum so there is more leeway to use them, but I personally don't like to use them and I tend to think that when people use them, they are expressing insecurity. It's almost like the person using them feels frustrated or misunderstood but is trying to also remain amiable? Again, doing my best to describe the feeling but I'm far from being able to describe this as a psychologist or sociologist.


Hmmm, not sure what else to say here. People are used to other people being frank, rude, and often deliberately obnoxious online. You are very polite. People don't expect it. When people see something that doesn't fit it makes them feel uncomfortable. That's all I got.


Maybe instead of "Because we're adults" you could have said "I need more clarity as to what this means" or "could you please flesh this out and provide an example" or "this needs more explanation, why is it unprofessional?". I don't know what you were getting at but I feel like it could have been more clear and direct.


I'll say one more thing. In my opinion people want two things in life: to be fully known and fully loved. We believe that one always has to come at the expense of the other. I am a terribly insecure person at times, I can be very indirect (ask my wife), inconsiderate, and down right horrible. My wife has seen me at my worst and loves me anyway, this is grace. We need people in our lives who will dare to know us, who we will dare to let in, and who will love us in spite of everything.

This is all I have, sorry I won't have time for another follow up. Bounty or not, good luck to you and may you know grace and love to their fullest.

thanks, if you have thoughts to my thoughts, you can post them!

if you want to psycho-analyze my posts for fun, you can look through my posts too, lol

I hope you didn't take offense to that example. It wasn't directed at you, but for everyone in general. It's pretty evident from your first response that you know how to convey. I just wanted to know the 'whys' is all. And again, you came through. You explained your position well enough that I now I understand your point of view, and I agree with what you said; makes complete sense to me. You say your responses was all you had; they were absolutely perfect.

Thank you!

Oh darn - my jig is up! lol.

I do have thoughts on your thoughts - but their my thoughts and you can't have them! jk I can foresee some interesting exchanges between us in the future, no doubt. But I'll let you know this: I have become rather arrogant. I needed that reality check.

Yes, you did DrHerbSmoker. Tell me this, though... why do you think I was justified in calling in them out? Do you think I did the community a favor, or did I blow it out of proportion?

Far from it actually.

Arrogance is a symptom of narcissism  ;). And if you were one you either A) Wouldn't admit it, or B) wouldn't know about it  ;D.

Yeah, you're right; pretty clear in this thread, lol. But is this necessarily a bad thing? I suppose I could choose my battles a little more selectively? What do you think?

I agree with you that arrogance is a symptom of narcissism, but I don't agree that OP is narcissist. Why because I didn't see how he glorifies himself in some way. All I saw is that he posed his opinion like most of us and how it developed from there is another matter entirely.  

i would say you did the community a favor by showing the casinos true colors. some may say its not a big deal but i think that is up to how much the player knows and wants to know to begin with ya know.

and u were justified in calling them out because its a public board where things like this are supposed to be questioned and brougt up

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I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Well I just don't think some battles are worth it, since some people are so stubborn that no matter what you say and no matter what evidence you present them they will not change their mind. They think they are right and that's it. Those battles are not worth it, since you just lose time and get mad because the other people is so stupid and can't understand or doesn't want to understand what you are saying. To sum it up I would say it's okey to say your opinion and to discuss something but those you met in the past that were unwilling to accept anything you say and couldn't tell you why, time shouldn't be wasted on people like that. There are plenty of open minded people who want to listen. I think I may have gone off topic a little. :)
Fighting and saying what you believe is not a bad thing overall.

Yeah, I've spent some time here trying to prove a point over and over again, probably a lil too much in some cases. But I'm not so sure I'd exactly say the time was wasted. Even if who ever I'm beating a dead horse with at the time didn't get it, maybe something I said during the convo gave further insight to someone who was just reading it. If that's the case, then at least the time spent wasn't for nothing, right?

I have to say I didn't think about it that way. Yes you are right, even if it is not possible to convince some in something it might be someone who is reading that, if they are open to critical thinking and think that you have presented enough evidence. That makes it more of a long run game. Sadly usually not that many people read, especially if there is too much of text and pages, then you have to add that something gets buried beneath all the other new threads. Maybe knowing that it will be available for them trough search is enough, so those who are interested in it will find what they are looking for.

You deserve this for effort alone. You just didn't give up :)

Thanks I'd be happy to look through and find another one to give it another shot just don't think I'm giving you what your looking for but thank you

Thanks a lot for this. Hope you are sure by now that you are sane and there is nothing wrong with you. Well if there is something wrong with you then there is something wrong with most of us. If you stood up for the right thing, even better. If others are calling you crazy because of it, then you must have hit a nerve, or did something right, because if you were wrong they would most likely just ignore you.

lol, I hear you. This is the first time I've ever been actively engaged in any type of online community; I don't even do Facebook. So just trying to acclimate is all.

I don't Facebook either. Consider it a waste of time. Here on the other hand I like, and places like this one. You can speak your mind and if something goes wrong delete your profile and start over. No one knows your real name. If someone is friends with you here they are so because they like what you post and think good about what you have to say. It's not the same on social sites where you have to be careful what you post.

Dealing with people is lot like mining bitcoin.you have to go through
lot of shit before you get your block.

you are smarter than most people on earth,so
be too big for worry
be too noble for anger
be so strong like bitcoin that nothing can disturb your peace of mind.

good luck to you,
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TY.

Only .12 out of the possible .2 up for grabs claimed.

Definitely not an easy freebie by any standard; required too much thought. I suppose I should lock thread just in case this comes back to bite me one day when coins are worth 10k!  I'll really be in a pickle.

To all those who received a bounty - thank you! Best bitcoins I've spent in a long time.

Thank to you too! If was fun doing this. Hope you got what you were looking for. Also this way maybe someone else can say what they think and you can be even more sure of it.
P.S. Don't think it will be worth 10k any time soon, so you won't be feeling guilty because of it soon even if it does, I hope so at least.