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It's pretty clear that these errors are an intentional manipulation by Cryptsy staff. I had two computers running, both watching a coin being traded. I could see the transactions going through and everything. On my first computer, I hit the refresh button and was slammed with a 504 error saying that the server timed out. Bullshit. On my second computer, I could still see trades being made, and could even place trades myself. I used a Chrome plugin to reload ONLY the graph on my second computer and sure enough it loaded properly, meanwhile my first computer is still spitting out 504 errors. Yesterday Cryptsy added Vertcoin onto their exchange, did NOT announce it via twitter like they usually do with all new additions, and then coincidentally upon trying to login everyone was receiving 502 errors. How convenient that some very few people were able to continue making transactions at this time. Most likely Cryptsy staff. Think about it, you have an exchange, you see who's depositing what and where, you likely can see how many people are watching which page, you have the ability to short sell using everyone's pooled wallets, and the biggest one, you have the ability to delay deposits entirely like what happened with Vertcoin users, they had 250 confirmations and up, which means deliberate manipulation by Cryptsy staff so they can sell their own coins. This leaves the doors wide open to being screwed over and scammed by the people running the show like Big Vern. I'd be absolutely shocked if they weren't fucking everyone over. I for one and pulling all my coins out of there ASAP, I've already lost 5 bitcoins simply due to Cryptsy either not being available to me due to errors, from slow deposits/withdrawals, or simply due to them taking forever to make a transaction. 5 Bitcoins is nothing to sneeze at, people get sued for far far less and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't considering it.

TLDR: FUCK CRYPTSY AND FUCK BIG DICKHEAD VERN

Your out of your mind. I do not know them and I guarantee you they would not throw a re-accuring revenue business of such in the toilet.

The technical challenges behind the scenes is massive and insane. Be happy you do not see even more errors. They have come a long ways and it is much better now. They are obviously continuing the push forward and im sure errors can be expected. This is all new my friend.

Relax, walk away and get some sleep. It will be ok.

Paid shill. Why do they keep adding coins if they can't even get their shit together in the first place. Greed of course. And greedy people will do anything to make a buck, even scam their customers.
I'm waiting for the day when the Cryptsy staff realize they have enough bitcoins and altcoins in their wallets that they can just retire happily and walk away from it all, leaving everyone holding an empty bag..

That means they're working. Bot API can still trade even if you can't see it

If they are going to fuck people over, then they should have the courtesy to pause ALL trading on the exchange while they "work" including "bots".
Like I was saying, in one computer I was able to trade just fine, and in my other I couldn't do ANYTHING.
This is not fair at ALL. I just made the mistake of clicking a button on my second computer and now both are locked out.
No matter how you look at it, they are screwing everyone over, avoid Cryptsy at all cost, put your money in Bter or someplace better.
Anyone that has the audacity to come in here and defend this rigged exchange can suck my left nut.
I'm willing to be all my coins that once I'm able to log in I'm going to see that my coins have lost 25% of their value.
Let me just tell you that if this is the case then you will be hearing far more from me than just a rant.

You mean it'll be a YouTube video next time!?

You part of the scam crew or something? Am I raining on your parade? I think I'll just put everyone with Cryptsy under their name on ignore.

I agree with the OP.

A week ago, there was a post from a cryptsy dev that they made 250,000 USD in 1 week or a few days.


Cryptsy is a high volume trade site, they can manuipulate their servers to their liking. We all know they are crooked with back-door deals when it comes to adding brand new coins.


They can easily drop a large sum and upgrade and re-haul their pathetic severs. It still seems like they are using the same machines that they started off with. No new improvements or features have been added to cryptsy, like they promised.

Yeah I noticed that too, I have not been able to notice a single performance or reliability increase since release.
The only thing that is ever added are new coins. 504 504 504 502 504 502 ARGH!

This so many fucking times over. They deserve to get sued into oblivion.

EDIT: They haven't come anywhere, if anything they have gone down a long fucking ways from last Spring. They were pretty damn good back then, but now they suck a million dicks.

OP is right

I used them until recently.   Deposits are way to slow.

Whole website needs to be redone and they need to stop adding all these coins.

https://vircurex.com is far superior

OP needs a tin-foil hat, straight up. Slow your roll Alex Jones.

Cryptsy conveniently running like complete shit yet again during this crucial time in crypto.
Whenever something big happens and you absolutely need full control over your money, you can count on Cryptsy to fuck you over.
Been trying to cancel and move orders around and no dice, sell orders that I've placed that I wanted to cancel half hour ago are getting filled while I pull my hairs in frustration.
Apparently some select few are able to trade with absolutely no issue, yet the average consumer can't. What a fucking scam this site is, hope it gets shut down by the gov for scamming people.

Agree with the OP 100%. If this was a regulated stock exchange these guys would've been arrested long ago.

Can't even place a fucking order, keep clicking, keep waiting. Meanwhile a few others are just able to dump without problems.

What a huge scam Cryptsy is, these guys are probably raking in the cash and they still are shameless enough to charge us high fees.

Someone needs to find Big Vern and beat him to within an inch of death and leave him severely crippled for life.

i lost so much too, they crapped out at every crucial moment on Vertcoin. It's becoming highly suspicious.

you are a moron mate
REALLY?U THINK THAT?

Yes I think that, are you naive and gullible or something? So much evidence points to bullshit excuses for what is happening on that exchange. Look at all the others with problems. Whenever something big happens, like a new coin gets added or a country bans bitcoin, then all of a sudden Cryptsy takes a shit and people are still trading behind the scenes. Why don't they pause all trading while they fix the issues? Why don't they use the ridiculous amount of money to upgrade their shitty servers? Because it's a fucking scam, that's why.

Oh look, 504 error right on schedule. Clearly a scam, 504 means gateway error. Means that people with root access such as the devs don't have to go through this "down" gateway, and just dump or buy via the database.

Willing to bet there will be a wild swing in price on targeted coins when it comes back on. That would be a definitive confirmation of a scam.

im startiong to think the same.

lets hope coinmarket.io gets more coins at least they are fast and when they are issues they keep us upto date

Is anyone here able to access www.cryptsy.com ?
I've never seen this level of negligence when handling this much money.
Gov needs to step in and shut trading down and let us withdraw our coins.

Yes it is down again...

But still there is no other option, as most of us need high volume exchanges.

That doesn't mean we should take it in the ass and accept it.

Yo, do not blindly repeat what noob Fontase says. Or better - just wait out until those illiterate noobs from twitter there "make their own crypstsy", like they talk around, then transfer your money directly into their pockets.
Sure, because it requires no knowledge, and if you're thief, more the better.

So, read up a bit http://www.checkupdown.com/status/E504.html
Now I imagine how most of this tech shit is way too confusing for you illiterate noobs, which most of you here are. All grace to the exceptions.
But it you have stayed in school longer, or read some books about this mysterious internet you're using, you would probably write less embarassing stuff around, making you look stupid.

So, yeah, Cryptsy probably has more than 15 servers to balance this load of huge amount of dipshits like people here who try to earn 1USD by raping the HTTP connection, refreshing (aka same as DDOS) all the time hoping to get 0.1 USD more, plus it also probably has bunch of even more worse dipshits trying to hack what they can, because making money from cryptos apparently isn't fast enough, theft is always faster.
So, then they probably spend whole day trying to fix shit for you ungrateful noobs, while you continue refreshing because maybe you can squeze out 0.1 USD more, but when it don't work, crying begins.

Here's an idea; why exchange, let me post my BTC and ALT's addresses, you can simply dump your stuff directly here, save us all the crying and expedite your anyway probable crypto venture doom, as with this level of knowledge, it's pretty much matter of time when you fail and loose all money.

Less Jersey Shore, more books, friendly advice.

Jesus, I'm amazed by levels of crap people do here.

Cite?
The IPO stated: "We currently are collecting in fees over 100 BTC per month"
That is less than $100,000 a month, or ~$25,000 a week, a factor of 10 out from what you are claiming.

Your post made no sense, put the bong down. Judging by your post you are probably just some ~18 year old Call of Duty player who has no business talking about money.
Adults are losing hard earned cash here, that is a fact kid. In every other industry or website, the loss of money can be retrieved in one fashion or the next, but Cryptsy is able to rape everyone's wallet without challenge.

Because whenever this happens suddenly far more people try to trade, and they can't handle the increased volume.


Because the issue are only affecting the front-end system, and existing trades still execute, and new trades can still be placed through the API.
You see this all the time when mining pools are being DDOS'd. The frontend servers can't handle the load, and new miners can't authenticate, but people already mining can carry on find. Should mining pools shut down completely in that situation, because it would be more fair?


Because it would cost them money. And even more people would complain that Cryptsy was screwing them.


No, because they don't have the staff/competence to run a site of the size and complexity that Cryptsy has become.

Yeah. Exactly :D LOL. See - another great conclusion from OP. Makes you look even more stupid now. If that's somehow possible, as you're nearing to the zero.

I guess running at such volume is not a trivial task at all but anyway it would be much better if they provided more info

Please like the idea on their support forum ( https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/75845 )

That is an outright lie, Cryptsy is only as big as they make it. Why are they adding coins daily if they can't handle the load. It's because they CAN handle it, they are just throttling the connection to fuck people over.
It went from 504 to running perfectly for 5 minutes, to 502 now.

Because it makes them more money.
They can handle the load most of the time, but cannot handle the spikes.
That makes them more money that having less coins and running at lower volume all the time.
Do you think anyone would have seriously predicted the level of DOGE trading that is happening, for example?


Which is exactly what you would expect to see if a system is under-specc'd for the peak load it is handling.
Putting the paranoia aside for a moment, why exactly to they want to "fuck you over"?
How does that make them money?

Is it really really annoying when you get 502 and 504 errors? Yes.
Does it happen to me too? Yes.
Do I think that BigVern is out to get me? No.

Dude, websites with lots of load do NOT get bad gateway errors. Think you need to brush up on your HTTP skills.
Stop defending Cryptsy, this website is costing people tons of hard earned money, how could anyone not be against that.
This world has gone insane and standards are at an all time low. While we are getting 504 and 502 errors, staff is trading just fine. How is that fair?
504 is going on 30 minutes now, thats NOT load. I've seen websites get hammered before and sure they run like shit and take forever to load, but don't spit out 504's.

The actual error is:

http://www.nginxtips.com/502-bad-gateway-using-nginx/

I'm not defending them, except to the extent that I think the neverending problems that Cryptsy has are due to incompetence and lack of adequate support, not to malice.
When in doubt, blame Murphy rather than Machiavelli.
The standard of performance provided by Cryptsy is appalling, I don't think there has been a single week in all the time I've used them where there there haven't been major issues, and recently there hasn't been a single day without timeouts.
It is telling, though, that with all this, noone has managed to provide any real competition, which suggests that it isn't as easy as people make out.

Cryptsy is an absolute joke of a service at the moment.

They clearly have little idea of the marketplace they are attempting to offer a product in, that is an EXCHANGE which requires by DEFAULT :

LOW latency
NEGLIGIBLE downtime
ZERO account errors
ZERO lost balances

BigVern and them team should try something a little more at their level....maybe flower arranging or something.

...or comedy, I feel they would be quite good a that.

(whistles Laural & Hardy tune whilst typing)

During the huge Doge/altcoin spike in December, there was literally 10 times more volume than today and the servers did not get overloaded and in fact ran flawlessly.
No, this is not an accidental issue. No site that gets overloaded with 1/10th their peak volume crashes and stays offline for hours at a time, while staff and insiders manipulate and continue trading during the blackout.
This is deliberate and there is indeed malice behind all of this. Right before the 502 error appeared, the site was running great. If the issue was an overload, then it would gradually start running worse.
This isn't my first picnic with sites getting overloaded and none have acted the way Cryptsy has. We are being duped.
I have to agree, exchange = FAST. Though that would assume that this is all accidental or unplanned for.

Shrug. You are clearly convinced, and nothing anyone says will change your mind.
I'll offer this from the Cryptsy twitter feed:

He should have paused trading entirely then, but then that would mean insiders can't pump/dump.
I'm waiting for the big "We were hacked and lost everyone's wallets, SORRY!" twitter post.
Also why the hell would he add VERTcoin then right after do maintenance.

Haa haaa ha.

Exactly how is this different from every other day ?

502 over an HOUR now. Ridiculous. Can you imagine what would happen if E*Trade were down for an hour? People would get fired, sued, heads would roll and the SEC would launch an investigation.
The maintenance thing is bullshit. You know what any normal company or person would do? Launch a clone site and apply the fixes there, then once that's done port it over.
Any software engineer or programmer worth their salt that is applying changes in a live environment knows how to do this, but Big Bird clearly doesn't.
That would only be a 5 minute hiccup at most. What we are seeing now is one of two things, either a scam being played out, or amateur hour in Big Bird's basement.

retard  8)

I dont suspect cryptsy is doing this deliberately, but then I wouldn't rule it out completely either. Seen so much shonky shit go on over the years. Remember Bitcoinica.

Seems to be back up again now.

Looks like cryptsy is actually DDoSing themselves because of poor implementation. Just open devtools in Chrome and go to network panel. You'll be amazed.

http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_freak.gif

Any online exchange carries that risk.

Maybe it's all just an unintentional DDOS because everyone trying to place orders at the same time?

I wouldn't defend cryptsy, but I would like to point out cryptos are still relatively new tech. In the early days of online stock exchange, we had very similar issues. The likelyhood that cryptsy's owners are doing something malicious, and risking jail time and a solid business in the U.S. is pretty low. I find it hard to believe they would think they can pull a fast one and get away with it while under this much scrutiny and with this many eyeballs watching.

Do you have fucking Minitel for an internet connection? Smoke signals? Carrier Pidgeon DSL? Do you even know what a 502/504 error is? It means you're overloading the system servers by making a bunch of page requests every ten seconds so maybe if you just chilled out and waited a few minutes before clicking refresh constantly you'd see some action. Personally, I've never had any problems with my trades, all missing funds have been sorted it out w/ support, and I continue to make a ton of money on cryptsy. It would help if you understood what confirmations are in terms of a crypto network, just saying. But if you feel like you want to pull out of cryptsy just do it and stop bitching, I'm sure the rest of us will have alot better user experience without idiots like you slowing the site down w/ their psuedo-DDoS-retard-clicks. Newsflash -- no exchange is without any of the problems you mentioned. Coinedup is by far slower. And there's a reason most of the prices on coinwarz are from cryptsy -- it's an excellent exchange for what's available. If you look at Mtgox, the supposed #1 exchange, they're in major shit right now and owe 50,000 BTC to customers. That's $43 million dollars. Just to put things in perspective for you, that no exchange is perfect. Deal with it or move on to a new hobby. And advanced tip -- learn how to identify market trends and time your buys/sells rather than frantically trying to jump in on a wave to make 0.0001 BTC.

Fuck that. If you don't like cryptsy, don't use it. There are plenty of alternatives out there. No need to go crying to big gov because your deposit/withdrawal is taking too long.

Personally, I've never used cryptsy. I read threads like this and think, why bother? Coinedup (yes, it's slow, but good volume), vircurex, and poloniex work fine for me.

Load balancers. How do they work?

In the early days of electronic trading, exchanges that could not handle the volume of orders and messages were costing people $100k+. It happened on a daily basis. Those exchanges are still open.

Oh, and those exchanges had 3-5hr maintenance windows daily with over 2 full days on the weekends.

Growing pains, my friend.

You might want to go read coinmarket's support thread now, they basically told everyone to fuck off and die if you have problems and don't like how site is working. They closed the support thread because they were fighting with one of their customers, the site is having tons of problems and now no support. They said they won't shed any tears if people leave, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out basically. This person from coinmarket must want to have his business go into the shitter if this is how they respond to people having problems, missing deposits, negative balances, thought they were going to be better than cryptsy. Now I am too worried to put anymore coins on coinmarket.io after seeing the attitude they have.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422153.2400

Thanks for that...interesting reading.

The Wild West saga continues...

This was definitely manipulation by Cryptsy. Before the big recent upswing I predicted Cryptsy would hold deposits if the price started climbing and thus kept my Vert on cryptsy for this very reason. Sure enough everyone I was talking with on Ventrilo had been waiting for hours for their deposits to post. Meanwhile I had already send 2 separate deposits to Coinmarket.io which were nearly instantly received. As soon as the price fell everyones deposits posted. They are restricting supply when demand is high to sell their own.

I think everyone should quit their bitching. The purpose of crypto-currency is to use it as a medium of exchange for goods and service? Instead, everyone spends time trying to trade against other currencies for monetary gain for one single purpose.....greed. Don't be mad that cryptsy is better at this process than you. Shut up, put your head down and go to work on making a better exchange that allows fair trading .......oh wait, no you can't........yea

Btw, remember the Facebook IPO and how many people got fucked on that day when market orders froze for 2 hours while people watched the price fall off. It happens in regulated markets too.