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Title: Palin
Post by: nitehawk on February 07, 2014, 10:19:49 AM
So i just read an article where it suggest the idea is being floated to have her run for president in a effort to challenge Clinton if she decides to run.

So maybe i'm a bit confused here but other than some gaffs made while campaigning for while nominated for VP and some rather one sided outspoken things shes said or done.  What would make her a good president?

Sometimes i have to wonder if one party or the other is serious about actually wining an election. Surely there a better people other than Palin? Granted i'm not to happy with Clinton or the current administration. It seems to me the elections in my adult life always seem to boil down to who's the better of the two presented..... I'd have given alot to see Colin Powell or Tommy Franks Run... At least i can say they've had the burden of command....


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 07, 2014, 10:50:49 AM
I don't like Palin. She is too religious for me.  ;D


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Lethn on February 07, 2014, 12:01:45 PM
If Palin runs for president and actually gets a substantial number of votes I am hiding in a bunker.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: hilariousandco on February 07, 2014, 12:26:47 PM
What would make her a good president?

Nothing would. And I don't see why someone would vote for Palin over Clinton any way.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: practicaldreamer on February 07, 2014, 12:37:59 PM
The average height for US presidents is, I believe, 6"1.

Maybe she should wear stilleto heels or something.

I suppose she has a better chance of being elected than if she looked like Angela Merkel  ::)

Taxed enough already ?  It beats me how anyone with her brain could have managed to acquire anything to tax in the first place  ??? Its a wonder she can tie her own shoe laces FFS ;D


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Wilikon on February 07, 2014, 04:30:12 PM
At least she doesn't have a husband that's a serial sexual predator and is not directly responsible for the death of an American ambassador... That is a good start.

It is funny to see how cuntfortable human nature can be: not tall enough, need stilettos, not Murkel ugly enough, etc...



Title: Re: Palin
Post by: practicaldreamer on February 07, 2014, 04:59:37 PM
The only reason I mention height is that it strikes me as being a little odd that when the average height of an American male is circa 5"9/5"10 that the average height of an American President is 6"1. Why is that ?

   Sarah Palin ? I've always found her kind of attractive in a Mrs Robinson kind of way to be honest :-* And she always seems to be smiling and bubbly and everything [in a vacuous kind of way, obviously] - she'd make a great tv weather girl thats for sure.

But would I vote for the woman to be president of (arguably) the most powerful nation on Earth ? No chance.
   In fact I'm staggered that its even a remote possibility. The woman would clearly struggle to get her head around the rules of hide and seek - let alone the intracacies of the US economy.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Wilikon on February 07, 2014, 05:11:22 PM
The only reason I mention height is that it strikes me as being a little odd that when the average height of an American male is circa 5"9/5"10 that the average height of an American President is 6"1. Why is that ?

   Sarah Palin ? I've always found her kind of attractive in a Mrs Robinson kind of way to be honest :-* And she always seems to be smiling and bubbly and everything [in a vacuous kind of way, obviously] - she'd make a great tv weather girl thats for sure.

But would I vote for the woman to be president of (arguably) the most powerful nation on Earth ? No chance.
   In fact I'm staggered that its even a remote possibility. The woman would clearly struggle to get her head around the rules of hide and seek - let alone the intracacies of the US economy.

I would maybe not vote for Palin but I would surely judge her through the prism of what she accomplished and her personal life, not the prism of SNL.

So far Palin is:

Cute
Dumb
High heels
Mrs Robinson (MILF)
Weather Girl (WGILF?)

What else could we add to this fabulous list?



Title: Re: Palin
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on February 07, 2014, 05:14:58 PM
It'd be cool to have a female president, but I hope it's neither of them. Or if it had to be one, definitely not Palin.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: yatsey87 on February 07, 2014, 05:16:37 PM
Do you reckon Palin is dumber than George Bush or about the same?

It'd be cool to have a female president, but I hope it's neither of them. Or if it had to be one, definitely not Palin.

Well I thought it'd be cool to have a black president, but look how that turned out.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: hilariousandco on February 07, 2014, 05:31:40 PM
Do you reckon Palin is dumber than George Bush or about the same?

It'd be cool to have a female president, but I hope it's neither of them. Or if it had to be one, definitely not Palin.

Well I thought it'd be cool to have a black president, but look how that turned out.

You know what'd be really cool? A libertarian gay female atheist as president.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: practicaldreamer on February 07, 2014, 05:39:41 PM
So far Palin is:

Cute
Dumb
High heels
Mrs Robinson (MILF)
Weather Girl (WGILF?)

What else could we add to this fabulous list?



Her tits are real ? :o

She taught her pet poodle how to walk at heel ?

I dunno.


ps. just as a matter of interest, are her tits really real ?


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: hilariousandco on February 07, 2014, 05:42:15 PM
You know what'd be really cool? A libertarian gay female atheist as president.

Didn't they run a poll in the US one time where more people said they would vote for some-one convicted of a felony than an atheist?

Wouldn't surprise me. An atheist has no chance of getting in so it's a moot point anyway. Maybe s/he could claim to be a Christian, then bazinga the world once they get in haha.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: CoinDiver on February 07, 2014, 05:45:15 PM
I'll take stupid over evil any day.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: yatsey87 on February 07, 2014, 05:49:30 PM
I'll take stupid over evil any day.

Who's evil?


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: practicaldreamer on February 07, 2014, 05:52:27 PM
You can't find anyone in your whole country that's neither? ;)

 ;D


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: hilariousandco on February 07, 2014, 06:06:09 PM
I'll take stupid over evil any day.

You can't find anyone in your whole country that's neither? ;)

Probably not anyone who wants to run for office  :D.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: CoinDiver on February 07, 2014, 06:15:12 PM
You can't find anyone in your whole country that's neither? ;)

That would rule out all Democrats, and the vast majority of Republicans.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Spendulus on February 07, 2014, 08:35:27 PM
So i just read an article where it suggest the idea is being floated to have her run for president in a effort to challenge Clinton if she decides to run. ....
yawn...

let me think this out...

Palin...moose hunter....never killed people....

Clinton....the Cunt of Bengazi Fuck Ops....

hmmmm.....

Tell you what...

let's ridicule Palin....and be sure NOT TO MENTION Clinton and Bengazi...

that might work...ya'think?

LOL...






Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Wilikon on February 07, 2014, 08:51:32 PM
I would maybe not vote for Palin but I would surely judge her through the prism of what she accomplished and her personal life, not the prism of SNL.

This. Always this.

I thought you said everyone hates feminists? The above quote is the only important component of feminism.

Not one feminist Org has defended Palin in any shape or form. She is on the wrong political party. Remember that was true for way back when feminists defended bill clinton and destroyed women accusing him of being a sexual predator.

By the way, Salon.com is responsible for that, not me
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/26/study_everyone_hates_environmentalists_and_feminists_partner/


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Spendulus on February 07, 2014, 09:30:23 PM
I would maybe not vote for Palin but I would surely judge her through the prism of what she accomplished and her personal life, not the prism of SNL.

This. Always this.

I thought you said everyone hates feminists? The above quote is the only important component of feminism.

Not one feminist Org has defended Palin....

Palin has a rather unique ability to set babbling liberals ballistic.  Similar to the way LBJ was found offensive to the District of Criminals crowd, actually.  Talked different, acted different, never really accepted.

Give us a Bush, a Clinton, a Gore, another Clinton....not one of those Outsiders.

Unless the Outsider is approved by the Socialists...


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Wilikon on February 08, 2014, 12:15:10 AM
So far Palin is:

Cute
Dumb
High heels
Mrs Robinson (MILF)
Weather Girl (WGILF?)

What else could we add to this fabulous list?



Her tits are real ? :o

She taught her pet poodle how to walk at heel ?

I dunno.


ps. just as a matter of interest, are her tits really real ?

Not sure. Let us know
http://www.xnxx.com/video1917079/lisa_ann_fucked_hard_for_playing_sara_palin


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: practicaldreamer on February 08, 2014, 12:44:31 AM
Not sure. Let us know
http://www.xnxx.com/video1917079/lisa_ann_fucked_hard_for_playing_sara_palin

Was that really Barack Obama ?

Either way, its nice to see political consensus being reached even if it can sometimes be a painful process  ;) ;D


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Wilikon on February 08, 2014, 12:46:59 AM
Not sure. Let us know
http://www.xnxx.com/video1917079/lisa_ann_fucked_hard_for_playing_sara_palin

Was that really Barack Obama ?

Either way, its nice to see political consensus being reached even if it can sometimes be a painful process  ;) ;D

Obama is into Reggie Love (or the other way around?) so... No.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Elwar on February 08, 2014, 03:49:57 AM
Palin makes Democrats go nuts, Hillary makes Republicans go nuts.

Maybe if Palin runs the Democrats will try to run a conservative Democrat against her.

Like when Hillary ran the Republicans ran a liberal Republican out of desperation.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 08, 2014, 05:50:22 AM
You know what'd be really cool? A libertarian gay female atheist as president.

Libertarian and Gay is very rare.... and Libertarian females are rarer still...


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: nitehawk on February 08, 2014, 12:01:29 PM
Do you reckon Palin is dumber than George Bush or about the same?

It'd be cool to have a female president, but I hope it's neither of them. Or if it had to be one, definitely not Palin.

Well I thought it'd be cool to have a black president, but look how that turned out.

it would be amusing if

1 obama just went hood on people
2 we elected a thug ( im not talking thug as it tactics im talking they south central LA thug)
3 again Powell would have been an amazing president... ( let alone 1st black president)


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: hilariousandco on February 08, 2014, 12:04:53 PM
You know what'd be really cool? A libertarian gay female atheist as president.

Libertarian and Gay is very rare.... and Libertarian females are rarer still...

I think Libertarians in general are pretty rare.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: nitehawk on February 08, 2014, 12:09:34 PM
So i just read an article where it suggest the idea is being floated to have her run for president in a effort to challenge Clinton if she decides to run. ....
yawn...

let me think this out...

Palin...moose hunter....never killed people....

Clinton....the Cunt of Bengazi Fuck Ops....

hmmmm.....

Tell you what...

let's ridicule Palin....and be sure NOT TO MENTION Clinton and Bengazi...

that might work...ya'think?

LOL...






Having had a bit of experience in this one area.. I'm of the mind that it wasnt clinton, obama, the man in the mirror, or fox new's fault .. If someone had to be blamed it would have to be the ambassador himself ( however hes dead) He gets a security brief EACH AND EVERY DAY and its his responsibility  decide if he needed to call in support ( read Military Evac) he got the security brief ( or didn't depending on who you wish to believe)  and failed to act If he had requested help he would have gotten it 1 way or the other .. the problem was it was never requested. Sadly because of his decision to do nothing ended up costing lives. holding Sr Executive leadership responsible for this is like holding an army general responsible because Sgt flow Joe didn't get a flu shot and got a cold.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Spendulus on February 08, 2014, 01:57:41 PM
So i just read an article where it suggest the idea is being floated to have her run for president in a effort to challenge Clinton if she decides to run. ....
yawn...

let me think this out...

Palin...moose hunter....never killed people....

Clinton....the Cunt of Bengazi Fuck Ops....

hmmmm.....

Tell you what...

let's ridicule Palin....and be sure NOT TO MENTION Clinton and Bengazi...

that might work...ya'think?

LOL...






Having had a bit of experience in this one area.. I'm of the mind that it wasnt clinton, obama, the man in the mirror, or fox new's fault .. If someone had to be blamed it would have to be the ambassador himself ( however hes dead) He gets a security brief EACH AND EVERY DAY and its his responsibility  decide if he needed to call in support ( read Military Evac) he got the security brief ( or didn't depending on who you wish to believe)  and failed to act If he had requested help he would have gotten it 1 way or the other .. the problem was it was never requested. Sadly because of his decision to do nothing ended up costing lives. holding Sr Executive leadership responsible for this is like holding an army general responsible because Sgt flow Joe didn't get a flu shot and got a cold.

To run Hilary, they'll have to divert this and or whitewash it.  I understand that quite well.  They'll have to do something about Hillary's story about the "Anti Muslim Film", but making up reality and pushing it is what these guys do.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/

Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later on the annex itself was denied by the CIA chain of command -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to "stand down."

Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.

At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied.



Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Wilikon on February 08, 2014, 05:39:06 PM
Do you reckon Palin is dumber than George Bush or about the same?

It'd be cool to have a female president, but I hope it's neither of them. Or if it had to be one, definitely not Palin.

Well I thought it'd be cool to have a black president, but look how that turned out.

it would be amusing if

1 obama just went hood on people
2 we elected a thug ( im not talking thug as it tactics im talking they south central LA thug)
3 again Powell would have been an amazing president... ( let alone 1st black president)

1 - IRS, Fast & Furious
2 - Drone campaign, Libya's War without Congress' approval.
3 - Powell WAS a Republican and as such would have been called a house nigger by the black democrats, a sell out just like every time a black conservative runs for any spot in the USA. If I remember Powell's wife was scared to death for him to run. She is the one who told him NOT to run, among other things.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Wilikon on February 08, 2014, 05:44:25 PM
So i just read an article where it suggest the idea is being floated to have her run for president in a effort to challenge Clinton if she decides to run. ....
yawn...

let me think this out...

Palin...moose hunter....never killed people....

Clinton....the Cunt of Bengazi Fuck Ops....

hmmmm.....

Tell you what...

let's ridicule Palin....and be sure NOT TO MENTION Clinton and Bengazi...

that might work...ya'think?

LOL...






Having had a bit of experience in this one area.. I'm of the mind that it wasnt clinton, obama, the man in the mirror, or fox new's fault .. If someone had to be blamed it would have to be the ambassador himself ( however hes dead) He gets a security brief EACH AND EVERY DAY and its his responsibility  decide if he needed to call in support ( read Military Evac) he got the security brief ( or didn't depending on who you wish to believe)  and failed to act If he had requested help he would have gotten it 1 way or the other .. the problem was it was never requested. Sadly because of his decision to do nothing ended up costing lives. holding Sr Executive leadership responsible for this is like holding an army general responsible because Sgt flow Joe didn't get a flu shot and got a cold.

The push to blame the dead is already in full swing to protect clinton:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2014/01/18/piers-morgan-blames-ambassador-stevens-for-his-own-death-in-benghazi-n1780769

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/matt-vespa/cnn-host-blames-amb-stevens-his-own-death-benghazi-attack

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/01/19/sickening-msnbc-blames-amb-stevens-his-own-death-benghazi



Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Wilikon on February 08, 2014, 05:48:23 PM
So i just read an article where it suggest the idea is being floated to have her run for president in a effort to challenge Clinton if she decides to run. ....
yawn...

let me think this out...

Palin...moose hunter....never killed people....

Clinton....the Cunt of Bengazi Fuck Ops....

hmmmm.....

Tell you what...

let's ridicule Palin....and be sure NOT TO MENTION Clinton and Bengazi...

that might work...ya'think?

LOL...






Having had a bit of experience in this one area.. I'm of the mind that it wasnt clinton, obama, the man in the mirror, or fox new's fault .. If someone had to be blamed it would have to be the ambassador himself ( however hes dead) He gets a security brief EACH AND EVERY DAY and its his responsibility  decide if he needed to call in support ( read Military Evac) he got the security brief ( or didn't depending on who you wish to believe)  and failed to act If he had requested help he would have gotten it 1 way or the other .. the problem was it was never requested. Sadly because of his decision to do nothing ended up costing lives. holding Sr Executive leadership responsible for this is like holding an army general responsible because Sgt flow Joe didn't get a flu shot and got a cold.

The push to blame the dead is already in full swing to protect clinton:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2014/01/18/piers-morgan-blames-ambassador-stevens-for-his-own-death-in-benghazi-n1780769

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/matt-vespa/cnn-host-blames-amb-stevens-his-own-death-benghazi-attack

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/01/19/sickening-msnbc-blames-amb-stevens-his-own-death-benghazi

http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2014/01/16/msnbc-bbc-katty-kay-blames-fallible-ambassador-stevens-death/

http://therightscoop.com/forget-hillary-and-obama-maher-blames-benghazi-mistakes-on-murdered-ambassador-stevens/


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Spendulus on February 08, 2014, 06:59:07 PM
....

The push to blame the dead is already in full swing to protect clinton:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2014/01/18/piers-morgan-blames-ambassador-stevens-for-his-own-death-in-benghazi-n1780769

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/matt-vespa/cnn-host-blames-amb-stevens-his-own-death-benghazi-attack

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/01/19/sickening-msnbc-blames-amb-stevens-his-own-death-benghazi

http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2014/01/16/msnbc-bbc-katty-kay-blames-fallible-ambassador-stevens-death/

http://therightscoop.com/forget-hillary-and-obama-maher-blames-benghazi-mistakes-on-murdered-ambassador-stevens/
[/quote]

Yeah, <satirical> let's just bash Palin.  Throw in a bash Bush or two.  That'll work.  Okay, also bash Fox News, that always riles up the useful idiots.  Bash the religious right.  Don't forget the Tea Party.  Throw in a story - repeat it about a hundred times - about some Republican that did something against women's rights.  Don't forget to praise Kat Stevens.  Remind everyone over and over about the Great Democrat Leader that Sent the Helicopters in to Kill BinLaden (orchestrated and framed drama for TV).

And keep that pesky Arab film maker...you know, the one that caused the Bengazi riots (NOT) behind bars, okay?

RAND PAUL VS CLINTON ON BENGAZI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-_MT5ZSxiY







Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) told Greta Van Susteren on Wednesday that Ambassador Chris Stevens called for help when the consulate came under attack on 9-11. The ambassador made calls to the Deputy Chief of Mission Gregory Hicks in Tripoli. Chaffetz talked about this tonight On the Record,....

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/ambassador-chris-stevens-called-out-for-help-from-the-consulate-on-9-11-video/





Title: Re: Palin
Post by: nitehawk on February 09, 2014, 06:22:28 AM
So i just read an article where it suggest the idea is being floated to have her run for president in a effort to challenge Clinton if she decides to run. ....
yawn...

let me think this out...

Palin...moose hunter....never killed people....

Clinton....the Cunt of Bengazi Fuck Ops....

hmmmm.....

Tell you what...

let's ridicule Palin....and be sure NOT TO MENTION Clinton and Bengazi...

that might work...ya'think?

LOL...






Having had a bit of experience in this one area.. I'm of the mind that it wasnt clinton, obama, the man in the mirror, or fox new's fault .. If someone had to be blamed it would have to be the ambassador himself ( however hes dead) He gets a security brief EACH AND EVERY DAY and its his responsibility  decide if he needed to call in support ( read Military Evac) he got the security brief ( or didn't depending on who you wish to believe)  and failed to act If he had requested help he would have gotten it 1 way or the other .. the problem was it was never requested. Sadly because of his decision to do nothing ended up costing lives. holding Sr Executive leadership responsible for this is like holding an army general responsible because Sgt flow Joe didn't get a flu shot and got a cold.

To run Hilary, they'll have to divert this and or whitewash it.  I understand that quite well.  They'll have to do something about Hillary's story about the "Anti Muslim Film", but making up reality and pushing it is what these guys do.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/

Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later on the annex itself was denied by the CIA chain of command -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to "stand down."

Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.

At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied.



1 problem here.. CIA safe house...  NOT run by the state dept but Run by the CIA ... run by the CIA means its not the determination of an ambassador to make that kind of call
2 different issues here.. the CIA requesting military support isnt the same thing as an ambassador requesting a military evac of personal in a embassy.

the question i would ask here though is how exactly did they figure out it was a CIA safehouse? or did they just open fire where they thought US citizens lived?
I would also point out the guys in the CIA safe house weren't killed.. ( knew how to get out of dodge maybe?)

now let me be clear here i'm not supporting clinton or palin... im just points out a difference here.. ( honestly i think they are both bad choices.. )
and my point is more of we need a set of smarter people running for office then what we have seen lately ... clinton vs palin again will boil down to whom we can 1 stomach more and 2 who doesnt look like the biggest jackass.

re: Powell. not going to play the race card here ( but i'm not very happy about your turn of phrase ) ANY black person that was going to be the 1st president is going to be called every name in the book ( from sale out Down) one of the things myself and most black men learn early is they are going to call you that anyway regardless of what you do or what your education is or how much money you make. If you get mad EVERYTIME your going to spend your whole life fighting an uphill battle.

it still doesnt change that Powell would have made an amazing president.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Spendulus on February 09, 2014, 05:01:34 PM
.....

1 problem here.. CIA safe house...  NOT run by the state dept but Run by the CIA ... run by the CIA means its not the determination of an ambassador to make that kind of call
2 different issues here.. the CIA requesting military support isnt the same thing as an ambassador requesting a military evac of personal in a embassy.

the question i would ask here though is how exactly did they figure out it was a CIA safehouse? or did they just open fire where they thought US citizens lived?.....


I'm cutting out some of your post.  I respect your opinion that "Powell would have made a great President", but, you know, a lot of people said that about Obama.  A lot of people were utterly fooled, weren't they?  I think you and me get whomever the powers that be shove at us as acceptable to them as POTUS candidates.

RE the facts of the matter on Bengazi, here is what I boil it down to.

Two real American heros rushed from Point A to B to defend our people being attached by terrorists.  They fought to their death.

Clinton/Obama et all completely ignored this, and the media ignored it, and they set up a complete lie of a smokescreen about some Youtube anti-Muslim video.

To this day they have ignored the 2 who gave their lives defending that post.



Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Wilikon on February 09, 2014, 07:48:59 PM
So i just read an article where it suggest the idea is being floated to have her run for president in a effort to challenge Clinton if she decides to run. ....
yawn...

let me think this out...

Palin...moose hunter....never killed people....

Clinton....the Cunt of Bengazi Fuck Ops....

hmmmm.....

Tell you what...

let's ridicule Palin....and be sure NOT TO MENTION Clinton and Bengazi...

that might work...ya'think?

LOL...






Having had a bit of experience in this one area.. I'm of the mind that it wasnt clinton, obama, the man in the mirror, or fox new's fault .. If someone had to be blamed it would have to be the ambassador himself ( however hes dead) He gets a security brief EACH AND EVERY DAY and its his responsibility  decide if he needed to call in support ( read Military Evac) he got the security brief ( or didn't depending on who you wish to believe)  and failed to act If he had requested help he would have gotten it 1 way or the other .. the problem was it was never requested. Sadly because of his decision to do nothing ended up costing lives. holding Sr Executive leadership responsible for this is like holding an army general responsible because Sgt flow Joe didn't get a flu shot and got a cold.

To run Hilary, they'll have to divert this and or whitewash it.  I understand that quite well.  They'll have to do something about Hillary's story about the "Anti Muslim Film", but making up reality and pushing it is what these guys do.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/

Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later on the annex itself was denied by the CIA chain of command -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to "stand down."

Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.

At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied.



1 problem here.. CIA safe house...  NOT run by the state dept but Run by the CIA ... run by the CIA means its not the determination of an ambassador to make that kind of call
2 different issues here.. the CIA requesting military support isnt the same thing as an ambassador requesting a military evac of personal in a embassy.

the question i would ask here though is how exactly did they figure out it was a CIA safehouse? or did they just open fire where they thought US citizens lived?
I would also point out the guys in the CIA safe house weren't killed.. ( knew how to get out of dodge maybe?)

now let me be clear here i'm not supporting clinton or palin... im just points out a difference here.. ( honestly i think they are both bad choices.. )
and my point is more of we need a set of smarter people running for office then what we have seen lately ... clinton vs palin again will boil down to whom we can 1 stomach more and 2 who doesnt look like the biggest jackass.

re: Powell. not going to play the race card here ( but i'm not very happy about your turn of phrase ) ANY black person that was going to be the 1st president is going to be called every name in the book ( from sale out Down) one of the things myself and most black men learn early is they are going to call you that anyway regardless of what you do or what your education is or how much money you make. If you get mad EVERYTIME your going to spend your whole life fighting an uphill battle.

it still doesnt change that Powell would have made an amazing president.



I am not the one playing the race card and it is not "my turn of phrase."

Powell would have been destroyed, his whole family included and his wife (if that story is historically true) was 100% right NOT to let him run. Obama is a democrat, so anything you say against him is racist. This does not work for black conservatives. Quite the contrary.


http://diaryofahollywoodstreetking.com/colin-powell-5-star-house-nigga-uncle-tom/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdVjrBY5-F0

http://www.blacknewsweekly.com/195.html



Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Spendulus on February 09, 2014, 09:40:57 PM
.....

Powell would have been destroyed, his whole family included and his wife (if that story is historically true) was 100% right NOT to let him run. Obama is a democrat, so anything you say against him is racist. This does not work for black conservatives. Quite the contrary.....

His wife repeatedly told him not to run, at various time.

I am of the opinion that anyone who was completely duped by Obama (eg...POWELL) cannot be said to possibly make a good president.

We need people a bit more street smart than that.  Now a Powell/Palin ticket would certainly be ...ah...  amusing....


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Wilikon on February 09, 2014, 10:37:33 PM
.....

Powell would have been destroyed, his whole family included and his wife (if that story is historically true) was 100% right NOT to let him run. Obama is a democrat, so anything you say against him is racist. This does not work for black conservatives. Quite the contrary.....

His wife repeatedly told him not to run, at various time.

I am of the opinion that anyone who was completely duped by Obama (eg...POWELL) cannot be said to possibly make a good president.

We need people a bit more street smart than that.  Now a Powell/Palin ticket would certainly be ...ah...  amusing....

But no one is street smart anymore (in the political world). "Streetsmartness" is hated by the political elites. It is mocked. It is ridiculed.

Now it is a show. A TV show. Candidates have 30 sec to answer complex questions. They need to be careful of gotchas, if they touch their nose or not on live TV. If they do good then it will prove to the voters they will be able to deal with "real" crisis. They are not afraid of the "jurnolists".

Sham-Wow!


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: practicaldreamer on February 09, 2014, 11:12:34 PM

But no one is street smart anymore (in the political world). "Streetsmartness" is hated by the political elites. It is mocked. It is ridiculed.

Now it is a show. A TV show. Candidates have 30 sec to answer complex questions. They need to be careful of gotchas, if they touch their nose or not on live TV.


Completely agree - getting the same way in the UK.

Here you don't need to be street smart - you need to be academic smart (Oxbridge helps a lot).

But I ask you the question - which is the smarter of the two elephants, the one which is having to find ways to feed itself out in the wilderness, or the one which has been taught to climb through hoops in the circus ? ;)



Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Spendulus on February 09, 2014, 11:22:10 PM
.....

Powell would have been destroyed, his whole family included and his wife (if that story is historically true) was 100% right NOT to let him run. Obama is a democrat, so anything you say against him is racist. This does not work for black conservatives. Quite the contrary.....

His wife repeatedly told him not to run, at various time.

I am of the opinion that anyone who was completely duped by Obama (eg...POWELL) cannot be said to possibly make a good president.

We need people a bit more street smart than that.  Now a Powell/Palin ticket would certainly be ...ah...  amusing....

But no one is street smart anymore (in the political world). "Streetsmartness" is hated by the political elites. It is mocked. It is ridiculed.

Now it is a show. A TV show. Candidates have 30 sec to answer complex questions. They need to be careful of gotchas, if they touch their nose or not on live TV. If they do good then it will prove to the voters they will be able to deal with "real" crisis. They are not afraid of the "jurnolists".

Sham-Wow!
The one who recently told this like it was directly to the media (and I am dubious he would have made a good Prez, but that is for other reasons) was Newt Gingrich.  

For me, the only names worth mentioning in the US republican party are Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Paul Ryan.  But, whoever you think is good, take the time to try to find and read some of their actual personal writings, instead of the media fakeness.  

Go figure out if they have half a brain.

Palin, I'd put her in charge of the EPA, and tell her to fucking destroy it, lock stock and barrel.  That'd be fun.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: nitehawk on February 10, 2014, 07:46:05 AM
Now there's a good question who was the last streetsmart candidate ?

As far as palin give her the EPA and we would end nuking Malta for some unknown reason

Hmm safe jobs for palin ...
 I'd say soccer mom but there crazy
Postal service .... Ya not gonna work

Here we go underwater basket weaver



Title: Re: Palin
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 10, 2014, 11:38:55 AM
You know what'd be really cool? A libertarian gay female atheist as president.

Libertarian and Gay is very rare.... and Libertarian females are rarer still...

I think Libertarians in general are pretty rare.

No... may be around 5-10% of the US population.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Spendulus on February 11, 2014, 09:02:59 PM
Now there's a good question who was the last streetsmart candidate ?

As far as palin give her the EPA and we would end nuking Malta for some unknown reason

Hmm safe jobs for palin ...
 I'd say soccer mom but there crazy
Postal service .... Ya not gonna work

Here we go underwater basket weaver


No, actually, the postal service is one of those weird US "independant companies" like the Federal Reserve.  But yeah, put Palin in charge of it and tell her to get it shut down, we don't need it anymore.  In fact, she could shut down one agency per year.  Or per month, maybe.

"Another agency in the cross hairs of moose gun..."

Now there's a good question who was the last streetsmart candidate ?

It'd have to be someone that held an actual JOB or two....lawyering doesn't count, neither does campaigning or something called community organizing.

"But I ask you the question - which is the smarter of the two elephants, the one which is having to find ways to feed itself out in the wilderness, or the one which has been taught to climb through hoops in the circus ?"


Which of the elephants could negotiate a deal with the likes of Putin ain't a hoop jumper.





Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Rassah on February 11, 2014, 09:44:08 PM
You know what'd be really cool? A libertarian gay female atheist as president.

Libertarian and Gay is very rare.... and Libertarian females are rarer still...

Don't know why you would think so. So far I haven't run into libertarians that were homophobic, and I've ran into a few gay ones. I'm one myself even (though I'm more an anarchist)


As for Palin, I think with all the camera time she would have to do as President, that her eyeball will probably fall out from all the winking. That, or the side of her face will be VERY RIPPED AND MANLY with its own set of pecks.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Spendulus on February 11, 2014, 09:46:07 PM
You know what'd be really cool? A libertarian gay female atheist as president.

Libertarian and Gay is very rare.... and Libertarian females are rarer still...

Don't know why you would think so. So far I haven't run into libertarians that were homophobic, and I've ran into a few gay ones. I'm one myself even (though I'm more an anarchist)
because it's a question of chained percentages, say...
...

.05 x .05 = 0.0025% or, whatever


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 12, 2014, 08:14:08 AM
Don't know why you would think so. So far I haven't run into libertarians that were homophobic, and I've ran into a few gay ones. I'm one myself even (though I'm more an anarchist)

Gays are overwhelmingly Democrat... with very sparse representation in the GOP / Libertarian Party.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Lethn on February 12, 2014, 08:25:09 AM
Don't even bother trying to put the GOP / Libertarians together, it was well documented how often Ron Paul supporters got into fights and arguments with neo-conservatives in the last election, it's precisely because Libertarians support gay rights and are against war that they were constantly attacked and the neo-conservatives didn't like the way they were muscling into their territory.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Spendulus on February 12, 2014, 12:49:23 PM
Don't even bother trying to put the GOP / Libertarians together, it was well documented how often Ron Paul supporters got into fights and arguments with neo-conservatives in the last election, it's precisely because Libertarians support gay rights and are against war that they were constantly attacked and the neo-conservatives didn't like the way they were muscling into their territory.

Haven't you heard?  The first rule of a despot is to keep the enemy warring against itself, inflame it into bitter factions.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Rassah on February 12, 2014, 05:30:44 PM
Gays are overwhelmingly Democrat... with very sparse representation in the GOP / Libertarian Party.

I actually put Democrats and GOP in the conservative pile, and Libertarians in the liberal. Conservatives don't want any change, and are both bigoted against something. GOP especially. Libertarians are at the opposite end of the spectrum, and are more liberal than Democrats, in the original definition of the word (democrats are still very anti-drug, for example)


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: player01 on February 12, 2014, 10:24:07 PM
Don't even bother trying to put the GOP / Libertarians together, it was well documented how often Ron Paul supporters got into fights and arguments with neo-conservatives in the last election, it's precisely because Libertarians support gay rights and are against war that they were constantly attacked and the neo-conservatives didn't like the way they were muscling into their territory.

You are about to see a wholesale takeover of the GOP by libertarians Keep your eyes peeled, we aren't going to stand for not having a voice, if we are stuck with the two party system, then we will be one of those parties.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: player01 on February 12, 2014, 10:43:56 PM
Gays are overwhelmingly Democrat... with very sparse representation in the GOP / Libertarian Party.

I actually put Democrats and GOP in the conservative pile, and Libertarians in the liberal. Conservatives don't want any change, and are both bigoted against something. GOP especially. Libertarians are at the opposite end of the spectrum, and are more liberal than Democrats, in the original definition of the word (democrats are still very anti-drug, for example)

Democrats aren't VERY anti-drug, they are generally fine with selective non-enforcement of drug laws while against changing the laws themselves


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Spendulus on February 12, 2014, 11:38:44 PM
Don't even bother trying to put the GOP / Libertarians together, it was well documented how often Ron Paul supporters got into fights and arguments with neo-conservatives in the last election, it's precisely because Libertarians support gay rights and are against war that they were constantly attacked and the neo-conservatives didn't like the way they were muscling into their territory.

You are about to see a wholesale takeover of the GOP by libertarians Keep your eyes peeled, we aren't going to stand for not having a voice, if we are stuck with the two party system, then we will be one of those parties.

Might happen.  The libertarians would need to understand how to develop and field an army of supporters in various states.  Kind of like what Romney had and the others competing against him in the GOP didn't have.

Gays are overwhelmingly Democrat... with very sparse representation in the GOP / Libertarian Party.

I actually put Democrats and GOP in the conservative pile, and Libertarians in the liberal. Conservatives don't want any change, and are both bigoted against something. GOP especially. Libertarians are at the opposite end of the spectrum, and are more liberal than Democrats, in the original definition of the word (democrats are still very anti-drug, for example)

Democrats aren't VERY anti-drug, they are generally fine with selective non-enforcement of drug laws while against changing the laws themselves
Democrats?  Anti-drug?  You got to be kidding.

Just look at the history of drug enforcement and the dominant politics, you will see little or no correlation.  Democrat judges, juries, cops and lawyers have put away more than their share of harmless drug users.

The reason for this is that most attorneys are Democrat, and most judges are attorneys, past the JP level.  This crowd isn't going to stop the massive money train and low risk of prosecuting drug offenses.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Chef Ramsay on February 12, 2014, 11:47:56 PM
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Title: Re: Palin
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Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Chef Ramsay on February 12, 2014, 11:55:06 PM
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Title: Re: Palin
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Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Chef Ramsay on February 12, 2014, 11:59:41 PM
HOT
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Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Spendulus on February 13, 2014, 12:03:44 AM
Gays are overwhelmingly Democrat... with very sparse representation in the GOP / Libertarian Party.

I actually put Democrats and GOP in the conservative pile, and Libertarians in the liberal. Conservatives don't want any change, and are both bigoted against something. GOP especially. Libertarians are at the opposite end of the spectrum, and are more liberal than Democrats, in the original definition of the word (democrats are still very anti-drug, for example)
Does not matter where you pidgeonhole anyone.  Since the first two years of Obama, libertarians and liberaltarians have been shoved to the far right by the nuevo Democratic party.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: etm on February 14, 2014, 08:46:00 AM
Has she hit the wall yet?


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 14, 2014, 10:20:44 AM
Does not matter where you pidgeonhole anyone.  Since the first two years of Obama, libertarians and liberaltarians have been shoved to the far right by the nuevo Democratic party.

I'd say that Obama has managed to create a wedge between the libertarians and liberaltarians, with the libertarians moving to the far-right.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Spendulus on February 14, 2014, 01:00:45 PM
Does not matter where you pidgeonhole anyone.  Since the first two years of Obama, libertarians and liberaltarians have been shoved to the far right by the nuevo Democratic party.

I'd say that Obama has managed to create a wedge between the libertarians and liberaltarians, with the libertarians moving to the far-right.

As I said earlier...


Haven't you heard?  The first rule of a despot is to keep the enemy warring against itself, inflame it into bitter factions.


That's really all that smearing Palin is about.  Unfortunately.  That's all it's ever been about, from the very beginning of those campaigns.

As opposed to, say, having religious right and Palin and Tea Party and moderate conservatives join forces to take over the Republican party and present a fairly unified and cohesive block.



Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Rassah on February 14, 2014, 09:58:22 PM
Haven't you heard?  The first rule of a despot is to keep the enemy warring against itself, inflame it into bitter factions.[/i]

That's really all that smearing Palin is about.  Unfortunately.  That's all it's ever been about, from the very beginning of those campaigns.

Huh... I never actually cared about her political views, and just thought that she was an idiot.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Spendulus on February 15, 2014, 12:59:31 AM
Haven't you heard?  The first rule of a despot is to keep the enemy warring against itself, inflame it into bitter factions.[/i]

That's really all that smearing Palin is about.  Unfortunately.  That's all it's ever been about, from the very beginning of those campaigns.

Huh... I never actually cared about her political views, and just thought that she was an idiot.
Nowhere did I say or mention "political views".  You were basically, instructed to think of her as an idiot.  Boatloads of money were spent to create that effect. 

You followed your instructions. 

Reality does not matter, image does.

Well, that's what I think has gone one with Palin.  Standard Democratic party playbook, of course.



Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Rassah on February 15, 2014, 06:27:03 AM
You were basically, instructed to think of her as an idiot.  Boatloads of money were spent to create that effect.  
You followed your instructions.  
Reality does not matter, image does.
Well, that's what I think has gone one with Palin.  Standard Democratic party playbook, of course.

Maybe, though I doubt much of her statements and interviews were taken out of context. In my eyes, she proved that she was an idiot by opening her mouth. (In my ears?)


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Spendulus on February 15, 2014, 01:24:42 PM
You were basically, instructed to think of her as an idiot.  Boatloads of money were spent to create that effect.  
You followed your instructions.  
Reality does not matter, image does.
Well, that's what I think has gone one with Palin.  Standard Democratic party playbook, of course.

Maybe, though I doubt much of her statements and interviews were taken out of context. In my eyes, she proved that she was an idiot by opening her mouth. (In my ears?)

It's likely a lot easier to inflame and smear if someone has a back country accent.  

Seems to be an acceptable form of prejudice, you think?

Standard propaganda technique.

Stereotype, demonize, ridicule pinpointed oppositional figures.  Heavy repetition desired imagery.  Goal, instill emotional response - not intellectual response - in target audience upon their seeing the cues (persons).

Wake up.  Look at the similarity between the demonization of Bush and Palin.  Bush, the hate was fomented him as "arch villian".  Palin, the stereotype used was "dumb airhead".

But it's some years later now so a lot of the useful idiots have forgot how they were led like puppets on a string on the Bush mantra.  Here'ya go!

One good way to force the Left to confront President Obama's own responsibility for his conduct in office is to compare his abuses of office with the record of President Bush 43, who was reviled by by his opposition as a dictator-wannabe, Constitution-abusing, moronic ogre straddling the line between simian and human. Doug Ross of Director Blue has produced an amusing comic-book approach toward explaining the differences between the two men:

Stuff Bush Didn't DO:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/02/stuff_bush_didnt_do.html

It's Obama that is showing his true colors as a dictator-wannabe, Constitution-abusing, moronic ogre.  Those things when said about Bush were part of a propaganda campaign to polarize opinion and make people angry at hearing or seeing Bush.

See the differences?


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: BitChick on February 16, 2014, 12:43:29 AM
I am a "conservative" Christian female that typically votes Republican (although I scored more like a left-wing libertarian on a quiz I took the other day but I digress) and I would NEVER vote for Palin.  The thought seriously scares me!  Even Obama is better and I really don't like Obama much.  I would totally take Hillary Clinton over Palin.



Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Spendulus on February 16, 2014, 09:53:45 PM
....I would NEVER vote for Palin.....Even Obama is better...


Of course nobody ever asked you to Vote for Palin.  They asked you to vote for McCain or Obama. 

I am just curious, if you read my comments about the use of propaganda techniques to smear Palin, do you believe you were immune to them, or influenced somewhat or influenced a lot by them?  




Title: Re: Palin
Post by: dddbtc on February 17, 2014, 06:44:47 PM
If Palin runs for president and actually gets a substantial number of votes I am hiding in a bunker.

I'd just reserve my passport now, and get ready to hop on a plane with a flashdrive full of BTC


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Lethn on February 17, 2014, 08:11:12 PM
If Palin runs for president and actually gets a substantial number of votes I am hiding in a bunker.

I'd just reserve my passport now, and get ready to hop on a plane with a flashdrive full of BTC

You do realise she'd just start launching nukes everywhere right? Bitcoins won't be of much help to you in a nuclear apocalypse.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Spendulus on February 19, 2014, 03:37:40 PM
If Palin runs for president and actually gets a substantial number of votes I am hiding in a bunker.

I'd just reserve my passport now, and get ready to hop on a plane with a flashdrive full of BTC

You do realise she'd just start launching nukes everywhere right? Bitcoins won't be of much help to you in a nuclear apocalypse.
She would?  HOW?  I thought Obama was going to use them all up on the likes of Britian, Israel, Texas and other countries that didn't get along with him.


Title: Re: Palin
Post by: Rassah on February 20, 2014, 10:34:09 PM
Maybe, though I doubt much of her statements and interviews were taken out of context. In my eyes, she proved that she was an idiot by opening her mouth. (In my ears?)

It's likely a lot easier to inflame and smear if someone has a back country accent.  

Seems to be an acceptable form of prejudice, you think?

It wasn't the accent that she said it with, it was what she said. Things about her interests, what books or news she reads, her opinions on things. She's not a very, um, "worldly" person.