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Sometimes in trading I can think of myself that in market I can observe that the whales are just manipulating the price if they happen to be in the same coin buying it on sell order then the price will suddenly goes up. And it seems that almost all the alts released in CMC are just like that since they are using the same blockchain regardless of their own platforms but dont you try to observe that their purpose they are boasting on their whitepaper are just nothing right?? since they are just token symbolizing but are the same token with other projects that have decimals but still the whales are the one manipulating it, so somehow its so pointless releasing new token project almost everday .
In your opinion?  ;D

Whales are everywhere in the market. Even they will stay as always. I think that manipulation can be avoided with proper investment planning. Manipulators take the benefit of them who are limited in applying knowledge. So knowledge regarding market should be gathered and applied properly to dumb the whales.

As the whales are continuously manipulating the use of their crypto currency so it is actually pointless to release new coin project everyday.

Yes, you are right. The big whales must be manipulating the market. This is why the cryptocurrency market is very unstable at this current moment.

Yeah ofcourse they do. Not as easy to make a profit whilst doing that as people like to make out though.

Whales are dumping to create fair and panic. And they buy back from panic sells.
Thats what we are having now. I prefer to wait for a price action to buy more.

Aside from whales, the most beneficial factor to all crypto currencies are the one who are using it and the new ones using it. "Customer", a product can never be sold without it's buyers, so the need in demands is the crucial one. Leaving aside the whales coz they are also consumers but in a different level.

That is why i always cling to this saying  "the time to buy is when there's blood in the streets." by: Baron Rothschild, Even small sum can make a profit. Whales are always there, All i know if the market is in blood state there's a whale playing again.

Yup, many people who have a lot of fund to this things, they have influence over the market, it's not that big but still, they can give impact to it. When I read a lot already sell their coins during the dip because of panic, I see those whales smiling...

It is not pointless in releasing new projects if they are offering something unique. These projects attract whales and the coins will be held on for future investments. These the actions which usually happen in the crypto currency market and this is what drives the market in the first place.

Whales always try to manipulate prices of coins, it affects traders because big walls on buy and sell orders changes the decision of traders, it might also change decision of bots.

Perhaps now the situation in the market is manipulation by the sharks of the market, so they need to get people to stay without a deposit.

I find it funny at times that when traders dont understand or have an answer for the market volatility, they simply blame it on whales. I am not disagreeing with your point, but yes, a lot many potential coins had there bull run due to there project and not because of any manipulations. The manipulations we usually see are with low cap or small tokens which are actually not moving anywhere for there tech.

I am sure that the market of cryptocurrencies is manipulated by whales. These PUMPY, too, they make

Yeah coz it's bear market and some whales wanted to get money from other traders. There are Pump and dump scheme made by manipulators. On Somehow you don't need to trade everyday just hodl if you keep hodling and sell those if you get profit and make a come back if you wish so.

Yes the whales play alot of dirty games in the exchange site and some shit as that happened to binance this morning, where someone bout 20sys for 96 btc,
It was a great mistake by the whale, but non the less i commend the courage of the sys holder to stake the token so high.

Regardless, the whales are people from forex who is intending to ruin crypto currency trade, but i believe we will win and overcome their advances

There was some strange games going on there, imagine the spike in the charts based on that one mistake! Perhaps someone was trying to transfer those funds and using binance for it. Either way, whales are manipulating the prices - we just have to go along with it

Better not to trade if you suspect some price manipulation of a certain coin/token. There is a higher chance you will get burned if you chase pump manipulations.

I'm really dissapointed in crypto market , because of it's absolutely manipulative nature . Everything is just pump & dump , and it happens only when whales want it to happen . How can something gain or lose x2 or more per a single day ? Why investors should invest in ICO , if everything is losing 50%+ after getting to exchanges ? I hope whales will stop market dump and we will see a more healthy market soon .

Yes, Wales exist in this market space. the try to hold a large percentage of that coin and can use this to their advantage to manipulate the price of a coin to the desired price.

Don't mind them if you believe that hodling some coins will give you alot of money then stick to it. Those manipulators is very greedy and they had lose big already. Again if you keep buying bitcoin and alts every dip and hodl you' ll be soon get high profit. Be patience and get more profit by using leveraging.

Those have not yet lost big amount. They can do anything with it. They can create FOMO instantly and then dump it at the same time. It looks so easy for them to manipulate the market. I would say that they are buying on every dip and they create FOMO to pump it finally they can dump it anytime with decent profit.

Whales dump - prices go down and they wait for panic sells to start, once they do prices go down some more and whales buy back. Thats how it will always be.

yes i think that too
big man come with massive money, then they create a
how i can say,
a drama maybe, or melody of money.
i dont think its a pure nature.
some week all of them got a red , then some day green .
always like that.

They are cause of FOMO, they pump the market and they instantly sell all their hodlings in just a snap with some several coins that are rotating on CMC. if you really wanted to invest and hodl for long term you may read a good chart that are stable for the previous 6 months.

It's all set up. I feel it. the rich or those with great assets will always win in the sale or business of crypro. either when the market is bad or good. always be careful to buy crypto when the market conditions have not been stable.

It will happen day by day, and maybe forever. Those who have the power can influence the price, and the smaller the marketcap, it will be easier to be manipulated. We will not be able to prevent it, and the best way is to start learning about their mindset, and try to follow the game.

Maybe that's why they're called whales. I think they are just a bunch of herds, who are smart enough to read opportunities.
Maybe they do have power, but it would not be great if they did not do it together.

I think the market sometimes needs whales. Although it can actually manipulate some coins and affect the market, their purpose is to make money. Our purpose is to make money, but we are small shrimps, just like the sea world, there will always be Overlord, if you have a lot of money, you can also

That's the way it is, because to be honest, there are too many projects right now. And lucky if you can recognize such a project, because most of us do not even know the rules of the game, and just buy their nonsense.

Being rekt by whales is a part of crypto market. The only way is not go against the whales, but go with them.

I dont understand completely what are you saying.

I will try to make some sense of it. You are saying that all the eth tokens are using the same blockchain.
It most certainly is not, every altcoin has their own block chain which in most cases is built on Eth foundation.

The price is correlated because traders look for indicators and the biggest one is BTC, there are some coins that are unicorns which in their own time tend to in the opposite directions even when BTC is going down ,for example MTC few times had a great rally when most of the market was dying.

Maybe you have a point all of this,and thats also my perception about the whales or the big players in this investment of cryptocurrency investment,i thinks theres a reason why should the big whales could control the  market circualtion of price value in crypto exchanges because they are the one have a capable to manipulate all the prices of crypto coins,because they have there own money or portfolio to create a pump and dump situation.

I have the same observations as yours. I felt, trading is useless whenever whales are manipulating the market. Indicators and TA are also useless and you can not to anything but to wait the whales to subside but already lose some money because they have controlled over the market.

Sometimes if you are doing any trade and if there will be a whale pumping your coin and you will be getting a very weird situation to follow the whales or going out with your profit. It makes everyone feel so difficult to decide what will be the next step to do that. I guess that looks so weird.

The main feature of the whale is the presence of a large number of crypto-currencies. Its main goal is to manage the rate of this crypto currency for its own benefit, and for this it is necessary that the coin is in demand and very popular. The main goal of the strategy is to reduce the price of the crypto currency as much as possible in order to buy it cheaply.
Whale massively sells assets at below market price, ordinary investors are afraid of the collapse of the crypto currency and start selling their coins. The rate falls even lower, and the whale buys coins at a sharply reduced price. Because of the mass purchase, the price rises again, and the whale repeats its cycle.