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Title: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on February 10, 2014, 06:41:59 PM
Now everyone knows the big names - Peercoin and Novacoin. However, there is a big world of PoS coins out there, and I simply can't find a GOOD list of PoS coins and information on them. So, I decided that since I'm doing the work anyway, I'd provide my work to the community. Hopefully it will help someone else.
 
Now most people understand Proof of Work - getting paid for mining. But I'd wager a few to many understand how Proof of Stake works. PoS is a method to try to prevent the 51% attack by encouraging people to hold coins in their wallet. And for this "service" coin holders are paid a Stake (dividend) every so many days. Now the stake varies, as does the period, and that's where the magic is.
 
You see, this post will not only just list the PoS coins, but it will also detail percentages, periods, and give a little analysis of the coins themselves.
However, let's start with the coin list. And If  I miss any - which is highly probable - please feel free to chime in.

Full disclosure - I possess the following coins: BCX, PPC, TEK, BTG, CAP, CGB, CASH, DMD, GLX, HBN, MINT, NVC, PHS, TES

Coins in bold are the first Stake coins in their category, but the dev tree for the categories flows as follows:
Peercoin > Novacoin > YACoin

Coins in green have had their Stake confirmed by me personally.

I need to define something, since many coins are descended from Novacoin, many will have a Stake percentage that mirrors it. However, Novacoins percentage is variable depending upon the Stake ready coins on the network. It starts out at 100% yearly and decreases based on the stake difficulty.
100% NVCS = 100% / (StakeDiff ^ 1/4)
Many coins will be listed as X% NVCS, which means that they would yield X% yearly, but difficulty decreases this percentage.

All percentages will have a second % in parentheses: X% NVCS (Y%) OR X% yearly (Y%)
Y% reflects what you can expect every stake period at the minimum age.    

Next, the coins take time to find stake, there is a minimum age and a maximum age. So, if you transfer coins into a wallet, it will take at least the minimum age for them to produce stake, but it may take up to the maximum age. In the list below that will be represented by:
Stake Age (SA) = min days / max days

Exchanges - If it is listed on an exchange, I am not going to list all of them, but I will try to list the largest

Coinmarketcap - If the coin is listed on coinmarketcap.com, I will note it as CMC in the list below

Max Coins - The max # of coins that can be produced factors into how valuable the coin will be - but it is not the only factor. We will peg the number of coins against the max # of BTC which is 21 million.
So for example, HBN which has a max number of coins of 120 million, would be denoted Coins 5.7 - there will be 5.7 HBN for every 1 BTC.

False claims - Coins with a strike through are broken and do not have stake.  
 
SHA256
Battlecoin (BCX) – 50% NVCS (1%), SA 10/20, Coins 4.76, Cryptsy, CMC
Butterflycoin (BFC)
Deutsche eMark (DEM) – 3.8% yearly, SA 1yr/2yr, Coins 952, Cryptsy, CMC
Emercoin (EMC)
Inkacoin (NKA) - 1% yearly, SA 30/90, Coinedup
Peercoin (PPC) - 1% yearly, SA 30/90, Coins 95, Cryptsy, CMC
Reikicoin
Snowcoin (SNC)
Tekcoin (TEK) – 500% NVCS (40%), SA 30/90, Coins 4.76, Cryptsy
 
Scrypt
AndroidTokens (ADT) - 1.2% yearly, SA 15/30
BlackCoin (BC) - 1% yearly - SA 8hrs/no max - will take longer
Bottlecaps (CAP) – 1% NVCS, SA 30/90, Coins 2.26, Cryptsy
Bitbar (BTB) – SA 30/90, Cryptsy, CMC
Bitgem (BTG) – 3% NVCS (0.2%), SA 30/90, Coins 0.023, Cryptsy, CMC
Cinnamoncoin (CIN) - 1% yearly, SA 30/90
Colossuscoin (COL) - 0.5%, SA 15/30, Cryptsy
Cosmoscoin (CMC) – 1% NVCS, SA 30/90, Coins 47.6, Cryptsy
CryptoBuck (BUK) - 3% NVCS, SA 30/90, Coins 0.5, Cryptsy
CryptogenicBullion (CGB) - 1.5% NVCS, SA 30/90, Coins 0.095, Cryptsy, CMC
CryptogenicCash (CASH) - 10% yearly (0.6%), SA 30/90, Coins 2.26, Cryptsy
Diamond (DMD) - NVCS, SA 7/30, Coins 0.21, Cryptsy, CMC
Electronic Benefit Transfer (EBT) -
Galaxycoin (GLX) – 5% yearly (0.1%), SA 5/15, Coins 25.6, Cryptsy
Grain (GRA) - 5% yearly, Coinedup, CMC
Growthcoin (GRW) - 100% NVCS (1.9%), SA 5/15
HoboNickels (HBN) – 100% NVCS (1.9%), SA 10/30, Coins 5.71, Cryptsy, CMC
Lebowskis (LBW)
Mintcoin (MINT) – 20% yearly – decreasing every year (1.1%), SA 20/40, Coins 3333, Ploniex
Novacoin (NVC) - 100% NVCS (1.3%), SA 30/90, Coins 95, Cryptsy, CMC
Neocoin (NEC) – 1% NVCS, SA 30/90, Coins 3.8, Cryptsy
Philosopherstone (PHS) – 50% yearly (0.7%), SA 5/10, Coins 95, Cryptsy, CMC
Starcoin (STR) – 1% NVCS, SA 7/30, Coins 10.8, Cryptsy
Tagcoin (TAG) – 1.5% NVCS, SA 30/90, Cryptsy, CMC
Teslacoin (TES) -1% NVCS, SA 30/90, Coins 14.3, CoinedUp

Scrypt-Jane
CACHeCoin (CACH) - 5% yearly (0.1%), SA 7/30, Coins 95, Poloniex, CMC
Gold Pressed Latinum (GPL) - 5% yearly, SA 1yr/2yr, SciFiEx
Microcoin (MRC)
Yacoin (YAC), 5% yearly (0.4%), SA 30/90, Cryptsy, CMC
YbCoin (YBC), 5% yearly (0.4%), SA 30/90, Cryptsy, CMC

Shares/Pure Stake
Next (NXT), CMC
NewEconomyMovement   NEM
NoirShares

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Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: atta2k15 on February 10, 2014, 06:45:00 PM
snowcoin and reikicoin both are sha256 POS coins


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: tokyoghetto on February 10, 2014, 06:51:24 PM
eMark is 3.8% annually I believe. Also isn't NVC 5%?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on February 10, 2014, 07:14:03 PM
Thanks!
NVC is actually...1/(nMaxPoSTarget/nCurrentPoSTarget)^(1/6)
Sooo...who knows what it really is currently. But it started at 100% and its dropping.
Which means many of the NVC clones are probably just like it.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Zzzack on February 10, 2014, 07:25:19 PM
PoS makes sense if these were investments. How does it help these become currencies? If it simply benefits those who hold coins, it would create artificially scarce environments where the price would go up.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: tokyoghetto on February 10, 2014, 07:40:03 PM
PoS makes sense if these were investments. How does it help these become currencies? If it simply benefits those who hold coins, it would create artificially scarce environments where the price would go up.

not every investment vehicle is a currency. You dont buy eggs and  milk with MSFT or GOOG or APPL. Nothing wrong with giving a dividend to coin holders, its the reward for taking on risk, and securing their respective network.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Joe_Bauers on February 10, 2014, 08:04:01 PM
Now everyone knows the big names - Peercoin and Novacoin.

YACoin is (I believe) the third proof of stake coin to be released (Peercoin->Novacoin->YACoin) and also the originator and first to implement the N parameter of Scrypt(N, 1, 1).


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: cryptomining on February 10, 2014, 08:43:15 PM
You forgot the best one, Grain - GRA.

Lots of upside and much older than most of those listed, great dev and community.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Nullu on February 10, 2014, 08:59:16 PM
Please add EBT:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=437660.0


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on February 12, 2014, 01:34:26 AM
Thanks for the info all - I will update.

why all these list threads, instead of supporting my open altcoins.cc project?

Honestly - I didn't know about it. It doesn't have a listing for Stake that I saw. And, I'd rather have a discussion on Stake as opposed to a static page.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Voluntold on February 12, 2014, 06:55:47 AM
How could you miss the most unique one?... Nxt


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Mr.V on February 12, 2014, 08:29:20 AM
Microcoin is POS scrypt-jane with modified nfactor for ASIC resistance


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: benjyz on February 12, 2014, 08:41:25 AM
Thanks for the info all - I will update.

why all these list threads, instead of supporting my open altcoins.cc project?

Honestly - I didn't know about it. It doesn't have a listing for Stake that I saw. And, I'd rather have a discussion on Stake as opposed to a static page.

replied in the other thread. happy to take pull requests for any missing information. I'll add some features which make it more dynamic. thanks for the input.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: BRUCELLA on February 12, 2014, 08:50:27 AM
Thanks for this thread..

i don't need to open each wallet to see wich one is POS or not (yes i forgot each time to note POS coin)...


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: JimJr386 on February 12, 2014, 05:52:57 PM
TES is 1% every 30 days


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: sana8410 on February 12, 2014, 06:00:42 PM
Look like, hobo, tek and Philosopherstone  is my coins.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on February 12, 2014, 10:56:56 PM
Look like, hobo, tek and Philosopherstone  is my coins.

That's part of what I'd like to discuss with this thread. While ROI is one thing, you also have to look at the dev team, community, and long term plans. If the foundation of the coin is strong, I'd start to think about it as an investment. Because if I put money into something, I don't want it to disappear or shrink to nothing because the coin dies. I would say HBN is strongest of the 3, followed by PHS. I am not impressed by TEK...someone please prove me wrong. 


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: d5000 on February 12, 2014, 11:04:16 PM
Good initiative, but you should highlight the "founders" of each category and add the "100%-PoS" coins.

So it would look like this:

PoS/PoW hybrid coins (PPC descendants):

SHA-256:
Peercoin
Deutsche eMark
....

Scrypt:
Novacoin
Tagcoin
...

Scrypt-N:
Yacoin
Ybcoin
...

Pure PoS coins:
Nxt
....

etc.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on February 12, 2014, 11:05:08 PM
Updated the listing.
Added info on CAP, BTG, TES, BCX, NVC...
Please help if you know any more coins or can help clarify the coins already there.  


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on February 13, 2014, 02:15:21 AM
Good initiative, but you should highlight the "founders" of each category and add the "100%-PoS" coins.


etc.

Agreed and done...


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: cocales on February 13, 2014, 03:26:33 AM


   GalaxyCoin Scrypt / POS   8)


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: slavo on February 13, 2014, 04:43:44 AM
EBT is pow/pos, and young, so add it please !


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: kokojie on February 13, 2014, 05:02:55 AM
what's these 30 days min, 90 days max mean?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: slavo on February 13, 2014, 05:09:11 AM
what's these 30 days min, 90 days max mean?

time to find a pos block


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on February 13, 2014, 04:46:10 PM
what's these 30 days min, 90 days max mean?

time to find a pos block

Thanks...I've added some description above. And I've shortened the table with:
Stake Age (SA) = min days / max days

Added GLX, EBT


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: thundertoe on February 13, 2014, 06:36:13 PM
Most of the time with these coins the stake mints early during the window. From my past experience, usually the first day eligible. ymmv

these 3 coins are all zero premine zero block halving coins.


CAP 5% every 30 days  daily mintage(pow) 14,400    current minted:  2,800,000     10 per min      

HBN 2% every 10 days  daily mintage(pow) 14,400    current minted:  3,000,000      5 per 30 sec

TEK 40% every 30 days daily mintage(pow)  1,440    current minted:     326,000      1 coin per min


The true power of the stake is in compounding interest.

Here is a calculator to run the math out a few months with.(select compound interest)

http://ncalculators.com/interest/monthly-interest-calculator.htm (http://ncalculators.com/interest/monthly-interest-calculator.htm)


Happy Staking!



Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: huskyxx on February 13, 2014, 06:45:45 PM
Very nice list.  ;D


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on February 13, 2014, 07:55:12 PM
Most of the time with these coins the stake mints early during the window. From my past experience, usually the first day eligible. ymmv

these 3 coins are all zero premine zero block halving coins.


CAP 5% every 30 days  daily mintage(pow) 14,400    current minted:  2,800,000     10 per min      

HBN 2% every 10 days  daily mintage(pow) 14,400    current minted:  3,000,000      5 per 30 sec

TEK 40% every 30 days daily mintage(pow)  1,440    current minted:     326,000      1 coin per min


The true power of the stake is in compounding interest.

Here is a calculator to run the math out a few months with.(select compound interest)

http://ncalculators.com/interest/monthly-interest-calculator.htm (http://ncalculators.com/interest/monthly-interest-calculator.htm)


Happy Staking!



+1 to this thundertoe - good statement on compounding interest.
Just a  question on this, I was looking at the code this morning for CAP & HBN - and it looks like they both have the NVC code where they'll start @ 100% and decrease based upon stake diff to a minimum stake. However, CAP and HBN vary because their min stakes are 1% and 100% respectively. Am I reading this correctly? So while they start the same now, as more coins come to market they won't stay the same?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: btc4ever on February 14, 2014, 07:18:36 AM
Here's snowcoin's GetProofOfStakeReward() function.   Perhaps y'all can decipher it better than I, for the OP summary.

Quote
grep MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_WORK *.h
main.h:static const int64 MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_WORK = 5 * COIN;    //5 Coin per block
main.h:static const int64 MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE = 0.05 * MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_WORK;      //5% annual interest

Quote
// miner's coin stake reward based on nBits and coin age spent (coin-days)
int64 GetProofOfStakeReward(int64 nCoinAge, unsigned int nBits, unsigned int nTime)
{
    int64 nRewardCoinYear;


    // Stage 2 of emission process is PoS-based. It will be active on mainNet since 20 Jun 2013.

    CBigNum bnRewardCoinYearLimit = MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE; // Base stake mint rate, 100% year interest
    CBigNum bnTarget;  
    bnTarget.SetCompact(nBits);
    CBigNum bnTargetLimit = bnProofOfStakeLimit;
    bnTargetLimit.SetCompact(bnTargetLimit.GetCompact());

    // snowcoin: reward for coin-year is cut in half every 64x multiply of PoS difficulty
    // A reasonably continuous curve is used to avoid shock to market
    // (nRewardCoinYearLimit / nRewardCoinYear) ** 4 == bnProofOfStakeLimit / bnTarget
    //
    // Human readable form:
    //
    // nRewardCoinYear = 1 / (posdiff ^ 1/4)
    CBigNum bnLowerBound = 1 * CENT; // Lower interest bound is 1% per year
    CBigNum bnUpperBound = bnRewardCoinYearLimit;
    while (bnLowerBound + CENT <= bnUpperBound)
    {
        CBigNum bnMidValue = (bnLowerBound + bnUpperBound) / 2;
        if (fDebug && GetBoolArg("-printcreation"))
            printf("GetProofOfStakeReward() : lower=%"PRI64d" upper=%"PRI64d" mid=%"PRI64d"\n", bnLowerBound.getuint64(), bnUpperBound.getuint64(), bnMidValue.getuint64());
        if (bnMidValue * bnMidValue * bnMidValue * bnMidValue * bnTargetLimit > bnRewardCoinYearLimit * bnRewardCoinYearLimit * bnRewardCoinYearLimit * bnRewardCoinYearLimit * bnTarget)
            bnUpperBound = bnMidValue;
        else
            bnLowerBound = bnMidValue;
    }
    nRewardCoinYear = bnUpperBound.getuint64();
    nRewardCoinYear = min(nRewardCoinYear, MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE);


    int64 nSubsidy = nCoinAge * 33 / (365 * 33 + 8) * nRewardCoinYear;

    if (fDebug && GetBoolArg("-printcreation"))
        printf("GetProofOfStakeReward(): create=%s nCoinAge=%"PRI64d" nBits=%d\n", FormatMoney(nSubsidy).c_str(), nCoinAge, nBits);

    return nSubsidy;
}


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: btc4ever on February 14, 2014, 07:21:25 AM
Lebowskis (LBW) is also Proof of Stake.    Scrypt algo.

Quote
grep MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE *.h
main.h:static const int64 MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE = 1 * CENT;

Quote
// miner's coin stake reward based on nBits and coin age spent (coin-days)
int64 GetProofOfStakeReward(int64 nCoinAge, unsigned int nBits, unsigned int nTime)
{
    int64 nRewardCoinYear;

    if(fTestNet || nTime > PROTOCOL_SWITCH_TIME)
    {  
        // Stage 2 of emission process is PoS-based. It will be active on mainNet since 20 Jun 2013.

        CBigNum bnRewardCoinYearLimit = MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE; // Base stake mint rate, 100% year interest
        CBigNum bnTarget;
        bnTarget.SetCompact(nBits);
        CBigNum bnTargetLimit = bnProofOfStakeLimit;
        bnTargetLimit.SetCompact(bnTargetLimit.GetCompact());

        // Lebowskis: reward for coin-year is cut in half every 64x multiply of PoS difficulty
        // A reasonably continuous curve is used to avoid shock to market
        // (nRewardCoinYearLimit / nRewardCoinYear) ** 4 == bnProofOfStakeLimit / bnTarget
        //
        // Human readable form:
        //
        // nRewardCoinYear = 1 / (posdiff ^ 1/4)

        CBigNum bnLowerBound = 1 * CENT; // Lower interest bound is 1% per year
        CBigNum bnUpperBound = bnRewardCoinYearLimit;
        while (bnLowerBound + CENT <= bnUpperBound)
        {
            CBigNum bnMidValue = (bnLowerBound + bnUpperBound) / 2;
            if (fDebug && GetBoolArg("-printcreation"))
                printf("GetProofOfStakeReward() : lower=%"PRI64d" upper=%"PRI64d" mid=%"PRI64d"\n", bnLowerBound.getuint64(), bnUpperBound.getuint64(), bnMidValue.getuint64());
            if (bnMidValue * bnMidValue * bnMidValue * bnMidValue * bnTargetLimit > bnRewardCoinYearLimit * bnRewardCoinYearLimit * bnRewardCoinYearLimit * bnRewardCoinYearLimit * bnTarget)
                bnUpperBound = bnMidValue;
            else
                bnLowerBound = bnMidValue;
        }

        nRewardCoinYear = bnUpperBound.getuint64();
        nRewardCoinYear = min((nRewardCoinYear / CENT) * CENT, MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE);
    }
    else
    {
        // Old creation amount per coin-year, 5% fixed stake mint rate
        nRewardCoinYear = 0.015 * CENT;
    }

    int64 nSubsidy = nCoinAge * 33 / (365 * 33 + 8) * nRewardCoinYear;
    if (fDebug && GetBoolArg("-printcreation"))
        printf("GetProofOfStakeReward(): create=%s nCoinAge=%"PRI64d" nBits=%d\n", FormatMoney(nSubsidy).c_str(), nCoinAge, nBits);
    return nSubsidy;
}


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: btc4ever on February 14, 2014, 07:27:11 AM
starcoin GetProofOfStakeReward:

Quote
// miner's coin stake reward based on nBits and coin age spent (coin-days)
int64 GetProofOfStakeReward(int64 nCoinAge, unsigned int nBits, unsigned int nTime)
{
    int64 nRewardCoinYear;

        CBigNum bnRewardCoinYearLimit = MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE; // Base stake mint rate, 100% year interest
        CBigNum bnTarget;
        bnTarget.SetCompact(nBits);
        CBigNum bnTargetLimit = bnProofOfStakeLimit;
        bnTargetLimit.SetCompact(bnTargetLimit.GetCompact());

        // StarCoin: reward for coin-year is cut in half every 64x multiply of PoS difficulty
        // A reasonably continuous curve is used to avoid shock to market
        // (nRewardCoinYearLimit / nRewardCoinYear) ** 4 == bnProofOfStakeLimit / bnTarget
        //
        // Human readable form:
        //
        // nRewardCoinYear = 1 / (posdiff ^ 1/4)


        CBigNum bnLowerBound = 1 * CENT; // Lower interest bound is 1% per year
        CBigNum bnUpperBound = bnRewardCoinYearLimit;
        while (bnLowerBound + CENT <= bnUpperBound)
        {
            CBigNum bnMidValue = (bnLowerBound + bnUpperBound) / 2;
            if (fDebug && GetBoolArg("-printcreation"))
                printf("GetProofOfStakeReward() : lower=%"PRI64d" upper=%"PRI64d" mid=%"PRI64d"\n", bnLowerBound.getuint64(), bnUpperBound.getuint64(), bnMidValue.getuint64());
            if (bnMidValue * bnMidValue * bnMidValue * bnMidValue * bnTargetLimit > bnRewardCoinYearLimit * bnRewardCoinYearLimit * bnRewardCoinYearLimit * bnRewardCoinYearLimit * bnTarget)
                bnUpperBound = bnMidValue;
            else
                bnLowerBound = bnMidValue;
        }

        nRewardCoinYear = bnUpperBound.getuint64();
        nRewardCoinYear = min((nRewardCoinYear / CENT) * CENT, MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE);

    int64 nSubsidy = nCoinAge * 33 / (365 * 33 + 8) * nRewardCoinYear;
    // if (fDebug && GetBoolArg("-printcreation"))
        printf("GetProofOfStakeReward(): create=%s nCoinAge=%"PRI64d" nBits=%d nRewardCoinYear=%"PRI64d"\n", FormatMoney(nSubsidy).c_str(), nCoinAge, nBits, nRewardCoinYear);
    return nSubsidy;
}

Quote
$ grep MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE *.h
main.h:static const int64 MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE = 1 * CENT;



Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: btc4ever on February 14, 2014, 07:35:33 AM
Butterflycoin (BFC) is also POS.  Sha256.

Quote
grep MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_WORK *.h
main.h:static const int64 MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_WORK = 30 * COIN;   //30 Coin per block
main.h:static const int64 MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE = 0.01 * MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_WORK;      //1% annual interest

Quote
// miner's coin base reward based on nBits
int64 GetProofOfWorkReward(int nHeight, int64 nFees, uint256 prevHash)
{
        int64 nSubsidy = 30 * COIN;

        return nSubsidy + nFees;
}

// miner's coin stake reward based on nBits and coin age spent (coin-days)
int64 GetProofOfStakeReward(int64 nCoinAge, unsigned int nBits, unsigned int nTime)
{
    int64 nRewardCoinYear;


    // Stage 2 of emission process is PoS-based. It will be active on mainNet since 20 Jun 2013.

    CBigNum bnRewardCoinYearLimit = MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE; // Base stake mint rate, 100% year interest
    CBigNum bnTarget;
    bnTarget.SetCompact(nBits);
    CBigNum bnTargetLimit = bnProofOfStakeLimit;
    bnTargetLimit.SetCompact(bnTargetLimit.GetCompact());

    // ButterflyCoin: reward for coin-year is cut in half every 64x multiply of PoS difficulty
    // A reasonably continuous curve is used to avoid shock to market
    // (nRewardCoinYearLimit / nRewardCoinYear) ** 4 == bnProofOfStakeLimit / bnTarget
    //
    // Human readable form:
    //
    // nRewardCoinYear = 1 / (posdiff ^ 1/4)


    CBigNum bnLowerBound = 1 * CENT; // Lower interest bound is 1% per year
    CBigNum bnUpperBound = bnRewardCoinYearLimit;
    while (bnLowerBound + CENT <= bnUpperBound)
    {
        CBigNum bnMidValue = (bnLowerBound + bnUpperBound) / 2;
        if (fDebug && GetBoolArg("-printcreation"))
            printf("GetProofOfStakeReward() : lower=%"PRI64d" upper=%"PRI64d" mid=%"PRI64d"\n", bnLowerBound.getuint64(), bnUpperBound.getuint64(), bnMidValue.getuint64());
        if (bnMidValue * bnMidValue * bnMidValue * bnMidValue * bnTargetLimit > bnRewardCoinYearLimit * bnRewardCoinYearLimit * bnRewardCoinYearLimit * bnRewardCoinYearLimit * bnTarget)
            bnUpperBound = bnMidValue;
        else
            bnLowerBound = bnMidValue;
    }
    nRewardCoinYear = bnUpperBound.getuint64();
    nRewardCoinYear = min(nRewardCoinYear, MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE);


    int64 nSubsidy = nCoinAge * 33 / (365 * 33 + 8) * nRewardCoinYear;

    if (fDebug && GetBoolArg("-printcreation"))
        printf("GetProofOfStakeReward(): create=%s nCoinAge=%"PRI64d" nBits=%d\n", FormatMoney(nSubsidy).c_str(), nCoinAge, nBits);

    return nSubsidy;
}



Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on February 14, 2014, 06:01:59 PM
Thanks for the code - I'll update the list.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: griffinriz on February 14, 2014, 06:43:04 PM
NXT +1


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: sudo23 on February 14, 2014, 07:05:34 PM
Scrypt
Colossuscoin (COL) - 0.5%, 15 days/30 Max Weight (SA 15/30)
100%-PoS 
Thanks for the PoS List


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: David Latapie on February 15, 2014, 12:36:23 AM
Now everyone knows the big names - Peercoin and Novacoin. However, there is a big world of PoS coins out there

These coins are established and have been available for quite some time.  Want to get on the POS train early??

MINTcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.0)
Hobonickels
GalaxyCoin

I cannot talk for the other too, but Mintcoin is ridiculously undervalued, partly because it is not on coinmarketcap or cryptsy => great opportunity to come in (biggest exchange: http://www.mintpal.com).
This infographic (http://thumbnails.visually.netdna-cdn.com/mintcoin-infographic-draft_52fe3808a4788_w1500.png) should help you undestand why so much people are jumping in the wagon at the moment!


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Monetizer on February 15, 2014, 01:30:22 AM
What coin do you guys suggest putting an investment in? I believe habbo nickels will go down in price sooner or later so I would rather not invest in them. (I have a computer runnning 24/7 so staking is no problem)
I am thinking mintcoin, what do you reccon?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: rikkejohn on February 15, 2014, 01:35:38 AM
DMD - Diamond (right?)

Good thread, it's something I've been wondering about myself.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: BitcoinFX on February 15, 2014, 02:04:12 AM
Looks like you might of missed the following:

Emercoin - EMC - Crypto-currency of Emergence - SHA-256 - http://emercoin.com/about/

PoS - 6% per year

Forum topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362513.0


Gold Pressed Latinum - GPL - Crypto-currency of the Ferengi - Scrypt-Jane - http://scificryptocoin.org/index.php/scifi-crypto-coins/gpl

Stake Stats:
1 year minimum stake
2 years for full stake weight  ;D
5 cent per coin-year consumed (which can be roughly understood as 5% interest annually)

Forum topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=377997.msg4050279#msg4050279


YbCoin - YBC - The real 'gold coin' - Scrypt-Jane - http://www.ybcoin.com/

Forum topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=243046.0


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: paleKing on February 15, 2014, 02:30:15 AM
Thx for the list!


Could you add transaction-fees? Imo a very important factor.

btw, is there any coin whose fee adjusts automatically in order to push inflation near zero?

In the best case, fees depend on transaction amount as well, so POS generates the same amount of "free transaction opportunities" for everyone, rich or poor.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: apullman on February 15, 2014, 03:21:58 AM
NEM will be Proof of Stake.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: barwizi on February 15, 2014, 09:04:28 PM
NoirShares is the first of its' kind as well.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: singula on February 15, 2014, 09:56:18 PM
Another Proof of Stake coin that is missing in your list is CACHeCoin:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400389.0

It uses Scrypt-Jane as PoW, min/max stake depth is 7/30 days and the maximal stake value is equal to 5% interest per year, when converted from coin-days.
As for TxFees, min fee is 0.01 CACH and the fees are destroyed, not given to miners.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: rat4 on February 16, 2014, 06:35:09 PM
BlackCoin will be PoS
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.0


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on February 16, 2014, 07:51:21 PM
Thanks everyone! I will update the list soon!
I will work on the TX fee, and putting info on whether it is on an exchange or not...


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: singula on February 16, 2014, 11:51:15 PM
I will work on the TX fee, and putting info on whether it is on an exchange or not...

As for CACHeCoin and exchange - it is traded on Poloniex: https://www.poloniex.com/exchange/btc_cach

As for others ... many of the coins are traded on major exchanges already (cryptsy, coinedup ....), some of them only at smaller ones (like GPL being traded on https://www.scifi-ex.com and AFAIK nowhere else yet)

Maybe put coins into some grid/table, with coins in row and perhaps 10 columns for various exchanges?

BTW you have typo in the OP, it is "CACHeCoin", not "CACHEeCoin".


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Jamesco on February 17, 2014, 12:35:48 AM
Hey guys,

It's quite difficult for most to understand/compare average % returns from pos. Maybe a suggestion would be a ranking from highest return to lowest based on monthly return or yearly? good job though by the way


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: singula on February 17, 2014, 12:41:59 AM
Sorting by monthly or yearly profit should be equivalent (yearly profit would be basically 12 times applied monthly profit :), but this sorting can be hard in general, as the with some coins the profit may depend on external factors (difficulty, etc ...), so it may not be simply directly comparable.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Stinky_Pete on February 17, 2014, 12:54:37 AM
Thanks for the list, I was just preparing myself to do the same task - you have saved me a tedious task!  :)


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on February 17, 2014, 01:39:51 AM
Updated a lot of coins that are based upon nova coin.
Added if the coins are listed on Cryptsy.
Added if they coins are listed on coinmarketcap.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: JTeam on February 17, 2014, 01:43:29 AM
Excellent list!
And thanks for mining with us! We like stake too and we want to focus on providing pools for stake coins.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on February 17, 2014, 03:18:27 AM
Started to add info about Max # of coins...
Max Coins - The max # of coins that can be produced factors into how valuable the coin will be - but it is not the only factor. We will peg the number of coins against the max # of BTC which is 21 million.
So for example, HBN which has a max number of coins of 120 million, would be denoted 'Coins 5.7' - there will be 5.7 HBN for every 1 BTC.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: zackclark70 on February 17, 2014, 03:21:12 AM
ADT 1.2% / year POS scrypt


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Monetizer on February 17, 2014, 03:41:37 AM
How does tekcoin's PoS work? Is it %40 every month or is it one of or?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on February 17, 2014, 03:57:02 AM
Most of the time with these coins the stake mints early during the window. From my past experience, usually the first day eligible. ymmv

TEK 40% every 30 days daily mintage(pow)  1,440    current minted:     326,000      1 coin per min


Straight from the dev.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: hostmaster on February 17, 2014, 03:58:33 AM
thx for the list


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Stinky_Pete on February 17, 2014, 12:56:02 PM
Ultracoin - scrypt jane


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on February 21, 2014, 08:42:28 PM
Lots of updates.
 - Updated a lot of coin yields for clarity.
 - Updated Stake Age
 - Added Max # of Coins
 - Added which coins that I have verified stake on.

I need help verifying data and stake on a bunch of coins. If you can verify any, please let me know either in the thread or via PM.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: CryptoBuck on February 22, 2014, 06:58:26 AM
http://www.cryptobuck.com/logo.png

CryptoBuck was one of the early coins to implement POS.
BUK has been setup to award 3% at 30Days. - Excellent #'s at the end of the year.

Details can be found here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=285224.0

Appreciate you adding it to the list,  thanks bud,.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Joe_Bauers on February 22, 2014, 06:49:27 PM
One thing I noticed. Scrypt Jane and Scrypt N are really the same category so you can probably combine them. Also, YAC is on Bter exchange in addition to cryptsy.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on February 22, 2014, 11:56:55 PM
One thing I noticed. Scrypt Jane and Scrypt N are really the same category so you can probably combine them. Also, YAC is on Bter exchange in addition to cryptsy.

Changes made.
I'm just listing the "biggest" exchange. I know it is arguable Bter/Cryptsy...


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Joe_Bauers on February 23, 2014, 12:31:17 AM
One thing I noticed. Scrypt Jane and Scrypt N are really the same category so you can probably combine them. Also, YAC is on Bter exchange in addition to cryptsy.

Changes made.
I'm just listing the "biggest" exchange. I know it is arguable Bter/Cryptsy...

Ah, OK, sorry I didn't see that.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on February 26, 2014, 03:26:11 PM
Updated list...not for the good. There are false claims out there.
False claims - Coins with a strike through are broken and do not have stake.

Starcoin has been struck - its stake code is broken.
Diamond is struck. Its code is broken - but the devs claim they are working on a fix.

I am about to strike Galaxycoin & Cosmoscoin - I have been sitting on them for a month and nothing...I've looked through the block explorer for GLX and I can't find a stake. I don't know of a good explorer for cosmos, so I haven't been able to check.

Also, Bottlecaps - I believe the claim of 5% a month to be false. I looked at the block explorer and it looks like CAP is set at 1% per year still, which would be ~.1% per month.

Grain info added.

Added the following coins to the list:
Inkacoin
Growthcoin - yes its back

Added Cryptobuck - Although PoW is broken at this point.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: GB89 on February 28, 2014, 05:09:55 PM
Is there any info to add to BlackCoin since it's release? From my understanding it's suppose to be 1% stake yearly but I'm not sure how true that is.

Also I have a question about QuickQuickCoin. I looked at my QQC-qt and noticed it does show stake within the client itself however after doing research I've yet to find any information. Does anyone know if this coin does indeed generate PoS?

Lastly does anyone have information on MicroCoin's stake information? I have a bunch of coins in my wallet but have yet to generate stake.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: softron on February 28, 2014, 06:17:34 PM
Very helpful guide thanks


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: zackclark70 on March 01, 2014, 07:19:36 AM
ADT v2.0 is scrypt POS > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440353.60

I have mentioned it before maybe it needs to be bigger lol


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on March 03, 2014, 02:36:50 PM
ADT v2.0 is scrypt POS > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440353.60

I have mentioned it before maybe it needs to be bigger lol

Sorry  :'(
Updated...


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on March 03, 2014, 02:42:57 PM
Added ADT.

I can confirm stake for Blackcoin, Cash & TEK.

Blackcoin will take you longer than 8hrs - I had 11K of coin and it took ~ 2 days.
- IMO Blackcoin is interesting ONLY because the stake is so short.
- I will not be putting any BTC into it because its 1% yearly is not worth it from a stake standpoint - and that's my focus.  

Cash took about ~32 days for ~115 coins.  


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on March 03, 2014, 02:51:08 PM
Is there any info to add to BlackCoin since it's release? From my understanding it's suppose to be 1% stake yearly but I'm not sure how true that is.

Also I have a question about QuickQuickCoin. I looked at my QQC-qt and noticed it does show stake within the client itself however after doing research I've yet to find any information. Does anyone know if this coin does indeed generate PoS?

Lastly does anyone have information on MicroCoin's stake information? I have a bunch of coins in my wallet but have yet to generate stake.

See my post about Blackcoin...

I'll add QQC to the list - it is supposed to be 20%. However its min stake period is 1 year.
MicroCoin - it is supposed to be 20%. However its min stake period is 1 year.

IMO copy and past coins - didn't even both to change stake period from the e-mark.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: GB89 on March 03, 2014, 03:57:57 PM
Is there any info to add to BlackCoin since it's release? From my understanding it's suppose to be 1% stake yearly but I'm not sure how true that is.

Also I have a question about QuickQuickCoin. I looked at my QQC-qt and noticed it does show stake within the client itself however after doing research I've yet to find any information. Does anyone know if this coin does indeed generate PoS?

Lastly does anyone have information on MicroCoin's stake information? I have a bunch of coins in my wallet but have yet to generate stake.

See my post about Blackcoin...

I'll add QQC to the list - it is supposed to be 20%. However its min stake period is 1 year.
MicroCoin - it is supposed to be 20%. However its min stake period is 1 year.

IMO copy and past coins - didn't even both to change stake period from the e-mark.

Thanks for the info. Great list btw, keep up the good work!


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: zackclark70 on March 03, 2014, 04:41:29 PM
ADT v2.0 is scrypt POS > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440353.60

I have mentioned it before maybe it needs to be bigger lol

Sorry  :'(
Updated...

Thanks :)


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: bumblebee33 on March 03, 2014, 06:03:24 PM
Zeitcoin is also PoS

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=487814.0


25% annually and minting starts after 20 days


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on March 06, 2014, 04:14:56 PM
All,

GrowthCoin is alive...and the stake works - I can confirm it.
The community is small however, so there isn't much volume.

If your're a stake hunter like me - I'd pick some up or mine it (diff is low). Who knows what will happen. 


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: digitsmith on March 07, 2014, 08:45:43 AM
@StakeHunter, thank you for sharing - hopefully we can all combine our knowledge and make this list beneficial to all PoS investors.

I've been investing in Hobo for a while now and I'm really starting to like PoS coins.
Mainly because of what you've shared (in this post as well as your PoS Investments post) I'm currently researching Stones (looking good) and mining some Growth.

Also researching two new PoS coins - ECC and ZEIT
Both claiming a 25% year 1 interest rate...

Edit: both ECC and ZEIT seems to be MINT clones.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: digitsmith on March 07, 2014, 11:51:16 AM
A lot of new PoS coins are cloning MINT so obviously the MINT model seems to be popular.

Not sure I like the idea of only being able to effectively PoW mine for 5 or 6 weeks?
A more gradual shift from PoW to PoS seems to make more sense imho - from a long term investment coin perspective that is.

Thoughts?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on March 07, 2014, 02:50:36 PM
A lot of new PoS coins are cloning MINT so obviously the MINT model seems to be popular.

Not sure I like the idea of only being able to effectively PoW mine for 5 or 6 weeks?
A more gradual shift from PoW to PoS seems to make more sense imho - from a long term investment coin perspective that is.

Thoughts?


IMO mint became popular, so people decided to clone it and see if they could pull off the same thing. And mint itself is just a clone of DOGE with some stake tacked on as an afterthought...gimmick.

In my opinion ALL coins should be both Work and Stake. Work secures the network and keeps a community active. It allows people who don't want to buy the coin outright to get some. Stake helps stabilize the price and rewards the holder of the coin for being loyal and using the commodity - ie not just dumping them as soon as they mine them, or as soon as the price jumps a little bit.  

These flash in the pan coins - where you can only mine for a few weeks are just all noise and no substance. I bet they're a way for early adopters to make a ton of money before they are dumped. Look at mint and blackcoin right now - pump and dump.  

Devs - coin makers - I'm calling you out.
  • Stake should either be the NVC model - 100% yearly modified by stake difficulty - or 50+%
  • Stake coins must have methods to contain inflation - destroy tx fees
  • Stake age should be no greater than 30 days
All other stake is a gimmick.

Coins that don't pass the stake test use it as a hook to draw in the unaware. They throw words around like "investment," "gains," and "energy efficient." As a stake investor stay away from them. They will be ruled more by price fluctuation (pump and dump) than by stake and you will never recoup your investment through stake.  

Coins need a community - miners plus stake holders grows the community.
Coins need to be rare - not billions of coins within a few weeks or months.
Coins need to be fair - not hugely rewarding early adopters.
Coins need to be supported - good and active devs.
Coins need to be stable - work and stake that last for years.

Coins that pass those tests are worth investment.    


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: digitsmith on March 07, 2014, 03:37:48 PM
i'm relatively new to crypto but this is a good summary of how my thoughts are beginning to crystallize (personally i'm not interested in a day trading approach)

also the reason why the only stake coins currently on my investment list are NVC, HBN, and PHS (recently added)
watching the resurrection of GrowthCoin closely

interesting that apart from NVC (about 2 years old) all the other coins on my list (HBN, PHS, GRW) were launched about 7-8 months ago

will be great to see a new coin designed using this model
if not i may consider refreshing my c++ skills and developing one myself


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on March 07, 2014, 03:56:16 PM
i'm relatively new to crypto but this is a good summary of how my thoughts are beginning to crystallize (personally i'm not interested in a day trading approach)

also the reason why the only stake coins currently on my investment list are NVC, HBN, and PHS (recently added)
watching the resurrection of GrowthCoin closely

interesting that apart from NVC (about 2 years old) HBN, PHS and GRW were all launched about 7-8 months ago

I know I'm crossing threads here - giving advice in a thread that is just about the coin lists, but I can't help it. It is time to draw a line and raise a flag about stake and coins in general. There are too many making money by preying upon others.

HBN, PHS, GRW all were born from the first scrypt alt-coin frenzy that happened after LTC and NVC became popular. However with HBN & PHS you can see that the devs and community care about their coins. There is a core there - not the bubbling frenzy of other coins but a solid core. 

The cornerstone of my stake portfolio is NVC, HBN, PHS, and TEK. Any stake investor needs to pick those 4 coins up. The ratio that you pick them up in is determined by how much risk you want to assume in your portfolio. I'll address this more in my other thread.

However, we can't just sit on our coins. As stake investors we need to do the best we can to promote and help those coins. Support bounty funds, and services, talk them up, find vendors, etc.

will be great to see a new coin designed using this model
if not i may consider refreshing my c++ skills and developing one myself

I'm on the fence about new coins. I think if we can promote the 4/5 core coins, and especially the coins with the smaller market caps, we may not need more coins. Think - if we can double or triple the market cap of the lesser coins, then the stake made also doubles and triples. We don't need other coins if we can make more on what we have simply by investing time into the current coins.

The only caveat to no more coins, may be coins with different algorithms. If someone comes out with a good stake (see above criteria) coin that is scrypt-jane, quark, or heavycoin-algo based - they may be worth watching/investing in.  


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: sixteendigits on March 07, 2014, 05:20:49 PM
Anyoen know the % interest on NRS?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on March 07, 2014, 07:04:47 PM
Anyoen know the % interest on NRS?

According to the beta code on github: 3% annual


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: digitsmith on March 08, 2014, 06:37:59 AM
Currently researching FlutterCoin.
Launched a few days ago - rocky start but seems to be stable now (i'll cut the dev some slack as this is not a copy and paste coin).

PoW, PoS and introducing Proof of Block (interesting).
Not much in the spec about PoS but looking at the code it seems to be 100% max yearly interest.

Wallet includes coin control (nice).

PoW rewards scales down over 8 years.
I also like the fact that dev is doing his best to stay below the radar and focusing on the code.

Promising - this may be the new coin I was looking for?
Mining FLT while net hashrate still low.

Code:
// miner's coin stake reward based on nBits and coin age spent (coin-days)
int64 GetProofOfStakeReward(int64 nCoinAge, unsigned int nBits, unsigned int nTime, bool bCoinYearOnly)
{
    int64 nRewardCoinYear, nSubsidy, nSubsidyLimit = 10 * COIN;
    CBigNum bnRewardCoinYearLimit = MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE; // Base stake mint rate, 100% year interest
    CBigNum bnTarget;
    bnTarget.SetCompact(nBits);
    CBigNum bnTargetLimit = GetProofOfStakeLimit(0, nTime);
    bnTargetLimit.SetCompact(bnTargetLimit.GetCompact());

    // FlutterCoin: A reasonably continuous curve is used to avoid shock to market

    CBigNum bnLowerBound = 5 * CENT, // Lower interest bound is 5% per year
    bnUpperBound = bnRewardCoinYearLimit, // Upper interest bound is 100% per year
    bnMidPart, bnRewardPart;

https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/7068-fluttercoin-flt-information/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=499126.0

Edit: I asked dev about PoS in Flutter and he said it's the same as NVC except that he changed lower interest bound to 5%


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on March 08, 2014, 06:23:59 PM
Thanks for the heads up - could be worth watching.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: hometester on March 09, 2014, 11:47:08 PM
to the OP It may be worthwhile to make a google spreadsheet to keep the new additions updated.

Great thread btw, I have 50 wallets and this made it easier to run through and put them all into a POS folder.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on March 10, 2014, 02:40:14 PM
to the OP It may be worthwhile to make a google spreadsheet to keep the new additions updated.

Great thread btw, I have 50 wallets and this made it easier to run through and put them all into a POS folder.

I'll look into it. It is a possibility. I was thinking about a simple webpage too.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Zackgeno96 on March 10, 2014, 03:53:27 PM
(blackcoin is PoS)


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Triffin on March 10, 2014, 05:13:23 PM
Just saw this in the [ANN] thread launching today ..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=509522.0

GhostCoin .. POW ( 1st 3 months ) then POS ..

Looks like a 'reverse' MINT clone ..
Stake % goes UP over time ( first 6 years ) 
20%/25%/30% two years at each stake %
Then 5%/year after the 6th year ..

Triff ..


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: bmgbmg on March 12, 2014, 12:58:54 PM
1% Premine, 20% POW then POS, no thanks.



Just saw this in the [ANN] thread launching today ..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=509522.0

GhostCoin .. POW ( 1st 3 months ) then POS ..

Looks like a 'reverse' MINT clone ..
Stake % goes UP over time ( first 6 years ) 
20%/25%/30% two years at each stake %
Then 5%/year after the 6th year ..

Triff ..


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on March 12, 2014, 05:01:47 PM
1% Premine, 20% POW then POS, no thanks.

Agreed. But I will add it to the list...


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Joshuar on March 12, 2014, 05:13:56 PM
80% of those coins aren't 100% PoS..Peercoin...ColossusCoin..etc etc etc.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: glennbuck on March 12, 2014, 08:06:04 PM
Thorcoin, a revolutionary hybrid proof-of-work/proof-of-stake coin. With Thorcoin you are able to receive and send Thorcoin all around the world and back, to all of your peers including businesses, friends, and family. Thorcoin is a Scrypt Jane Hybrid which only can be mined using CPU's and GPU's. Feel safe with ASIC resistant Scrypt Jane.Traded on cryptorush.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on March 12, 2014, 09:42:11 PM
80% of those coins aren't 100% PoS..Peercoin...ColossusCoin..etc etc etc.

That's not the idea of the thread. It is to collect a list of coins that offer any amount of stake...


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on March 12, 2014, 09:43:46 PM
Thorcoin, a revolutionary hybrid proof-of-work/proof-of-stake coin. With Thorcoin you are able to receive and send Thorcoin all around the world and back, to all of your peers including businesses, friends, and family. Thorcoin is a Scrypt Jane Hybrid which only can be mined using CPU's and GPU's. Feel safe with ASIC resistant Scrypt Jane.Traded on cryptorush.


Any details on Thorcoins yearly % and min/max age?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Crestington on March 12, 2014, 11:06:24 PM
The wiki for Colossuscoin needs to be redone since it's 100% Proof of Stake and has been since December.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: scryptographer on March 12, 2014, 11:15:41 PM
Thorcoin, a revolutionary hybrid proof-of-work/proof-of-stake coin. With Thorcoin you are able to receive and send Thorcoin all around the world and back, to all of your peers including businesses, friends, and family. Thorcoin is a Scrypt Jane Hybrid which only can be mined using CPU's and GPU's. Feel safe with ASIC resistant Scrypt Jane.Traded on cryptorush.


Any details on Thorcoins yearly % and min/max age?

10%
365/730 days

More info available here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=484815.0


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: tokyoghetto on March 12, 2014, 11:29:14 PM
how do people come up with these min/max numbers

365 day MIN and 730 day MAX for THORCOIN...for a measly 10%? I just spat my drink laughing.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Greg0s on March 13, 2014, 05:14:42 AM
I must say the MINT interest is rolling in :D I even gen'd some HBN yesterday

ZEIT is even better when it matures, I can only assume its the same timeframe as MINT, ie 20 days.

I know is its 25% first year then 20% 2nd year etc

Please add ZEIT to the list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=487814.0

:D
G


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on March 14, 2014, 12:09:01 PM
All,

Interesting news on the diamond front...
It appears the devs have been at work and they rolled out a new wallet. They say they fixed the Stake.
http://dmdcoin.net/forum/index.php/topic,137.0.html

I have some DMD just for playing around with - picked it up cheap. We shall see what it does.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Triffin on March 14, 2014, 08:14:46 PM
Here's another POW/POS hybrid launched on March 6th

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=503236.0

ECC coin 

50 Billion total projected coins
POW mining first 40 days then POS
25%/15%/10% 3rd-9th year/ then 1% after year 10

Looks like a "MINT" clone or close to it
Currently selling for about 5 Satoshis

Not making any judgements or recs ..
Just one more to add to our list ..

Triff ..


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Jamesco on March 17, 2014, 05:11:31 AM
Hey guys great thread,

After reading a few posts I was thinking, why don't we start brainstorming and start our own pos coin? We could compare current pos coins and we could gather a community of like minded stakers. I'm sure we can all relate to the frustrated feeling when looking at these new pos coins and wondering what are they really thinking. I was thinking of doing it myself and brushing up on my coding skills again as I am basically free this next year but I think it could be so much better if we got motivated and involved members onboard. Could be a great way to start from scratch, and build a community..What do you think?



Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Kergekoin on March 17, 2014, 09:22:45 AM
Hey guys great thread,

After reading a few posts I was thinking, why don't we start brainstorming and start our own pos coin? We could compare current pos coins and we could gather a community of like minded stakers. I'm sure we can all relate to the frustrated feeling when looking at these new pos coins and wondering what are they really thinking. I was thinking of doing it myself and brushing up on my coding skills again as I am basically free this next year but I think it could be so much better if we got motivated and involved members onboard. Could be a great way to start from scratch, and build a community..What do you think?



Wrong thread. I suggest you copy-paste your text to your new thread and perhaps give a link here.
Otherwise it gets messy here and im sure no one but trolls want that...


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: CartGeezer on March 19, 2014, 01:08:17 PM
PoS makes sense if these were investments. How does it help these become currencies? If it simply benefits those who hold coins, it would create artificially scarce environments where the price would go up.

POS coins are the way to go for long-term. 

Have you ever thought about what will happen to POW coins after they are mined out?  How will the blockchain be supported of there are no miners working to process transactions?



Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: dozwqr on March 19, 2014, 01:17:44 PM
A new POS coin: Nas coin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=521847.0
 :)


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: familiaverde on March 19, 2014, 02:11:00 PM
ECCoin : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=503236.0

ECCoin also adopts a variable PoS rate with the following annual interest rate:
- Year 1: 25%
- Year 2: 15%
- Year 3-9: 10%
- Starting Year 10, it will have an annual PoS interest of 1%


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: stevegreer on March 20, 2014, 12:25:51 AM
I must say the MINT interest is rolling in :D I even gen'd some HBN yesterday

ZEIT is even better when it matures, I can only assume its the same timeframe as MINT, ie 20 days.

I know is its 25% first year then 20% 2nd year etc

Please add ZEIT to the list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=487814.0

:D
G

+1 for Zeit. POW/POS with a strong community backing and great dev team. Only 19 days old, mining is still practical and price is low. So now is a good time to buy!


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Triffin on March 20, 2014, 09:09:36 PM
Another recent launch for POW/POS hybrid for our list ..

SHA Coin ..
POW for first 10 days
Then 100% POS
25% first year


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=512808.0;topicseen

 

Triff ..


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: thumbd on March 20, 2014, 10:51:24 PM
Is a working NEM client out yet?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: counter on March 20, 2014, 11:01:54 PM
+1 and subbed and I'm gonna bump this thread so that everyone can be aware of this threads awesomeness.  Seriously though it's good to have a thread like this to add to and keep some kind of sanity in this alt coin craziness.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: MadCow on March 25, 2014, 11:27:19 AM
Great thread & info, thanks!

I've taken the plunge and bought some POS coins, but now I'm unsure how to guarantee I earn my 'interest' for different coins. Do all of the POS coins require keeping the wallet open 24/7?

It would be great if you could add some info on what is required to generate the POS coins for each coin on your list.

I've done some preliminary reading today and it seems with some coins you might be able to risk opening the wallet as little as once a week and still get your stake coins paid, but I've also read conflicting reports that suggest nearly all POS wallet needs to be 'unlocked' and opened all the time to generate interest. I'm not sure how to 'unlock' a wallet, but suspect it might be the same as 'encrypt' a wallet.

This information is critical for any would be stakehunters, so it would be good to add that info in this thread.

Thanks again for starting a very informative discussion!


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Thusith on March 25, 2014, 04:40:19 PM
Why no Coin2 and Faircoin? :P


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: celebreze32 on March 25, 2014, 04:55:38 PM
Great thread & info, thanks!

I've taken the plunge and bought some POS coins, but now I'm unsure how to guarantee I earn my 'interest' for different coins. Do all of the POS coins require keeping the wallet open 24/7?

It would be great if you could add some info on what is required to generate the POS coins for each coin on your list.

I've done some preliminary reading today and it seems with some coins you might be able to risk opening the wallet as little as once a week and still get your stake coins paid, but I've also read conflicting reports that suggest nearly all POS wallet needs to be 'unlocked' and opened all the time to generate interest. I'm not sure how to 'unlock' a wallet, but suspect it might be the same as 'encrypt' a wallet.

This information is critical for any would be stakehunters, so it would be good to add that info in this thread.

Thanks again for starting a very informative discussion!

Good question.

I would like this answering too.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: doulos on March 25, 2014, 05:47:25 PM
Great thread & info, thanks!

I've taken the plunge and bought some POS coins, but now I'm unsure how to guarantee I earn my 'interest' for different coins. Do all of the POS coins require keeping the wallet open 24/7?

It would be great if you could add some info on what is required to generate the POS coins for each coin on your list.

I've done some preliminary reading today and it seems with some coins you might be able to risk opening the wallet as little as once a week and still get your stake coins paid, but I've also read conflicting reports that suggest nearly all POS wallet needs to be 'unlocked' and opened all the time to generate interest. I'm not sure how to 'unlock' a wallet, but suspect it might be the same as 'encrypt' a wallet.

This information is critical for any would be stakehunters, so it would be good to add that info in this thread.

Thanks again for starting a very informative discussion!

in short, encrypted wallet needs to be unlocked before you can stake
(if you don't encrypt your wallet, coins will also stake - NOT recommended)

to unlock encrypted wallet execute the following command in debug window
walletpassphrase mypassword 999999

it is NOT required to have your wallet open and unlocked 24/7 to stake

coins age with your wallet offline
when you bring your wallet online with high coin age coins, you stand a better chance of staking than coins on the network with lower coin age

for more info refer to
http://wiki.hobonickels.info/index.php?title=Proof_of_Stake


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: mingophoria on March 25, 2014, 06:16:05 PM
Another recent launch for POW/POS hybrid for our list ..

SHA Coin ..
POW for first 10 days
Then 100% POS
25% first year


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=512808.0;topicseen

 

Triff ..

SHA Coin is now pure POS now...... Last block ended today...will start minting in 2 days


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: ronald98 on March 25, 2014, 10:17:10 PM
Great thread & info, thanks!

I've taken the plunge and bought some POS coins, but now I'm unsure how to guarantee I earn my 'interest' for different coins. Do all of the POS coins require keeping the wallet open 24/7?

It would be great if you could add some info on what is required to generate the POS coins for each coin on your list.

I've done some preliminary reading today and it seems with some coins you might be able to risk opening the wallet as little as once a week and still get your stake coins paid, but I've also read conflicting reports that suggest nearly all POS wallet needs to be 'unlocked' and opened all the time to generate interest. I'm not sure how to 'unlock' a wallet, but suspect it might be the same as 'encrypt' a wallet.

This information is critical for any would be stakehunters, so it would be good to add that info in this thread.

Thanks again for starting a very informative discussion!

in short, encrypted wallet needs to be unlocked before you can stake
(if you don't encrypt your wallet, coins will also stake - NOT recommended)

to unlock encrypted wallet execute the following command in debug window
walletpassphrase mypassword 999999

it is NOT required to have your wallet open and unlocked 24/7 to stake

coins age with your wallet offline
when you bring your wallet online with high coin age coins, you stand a better chance of staking than coins on the network with lower coin age

for more info refer to
http://wiki.hobonickels.info/index.php?title=Proof_of_Stake

Thanks for taking the time to explain this.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: MadCow on March 26, 2014, 09:05:26 AM
Great thread & info, thanks!

I've taken the plunge and bought some POS coins, but now I'm unsure how to guarantee I earn my 'interest' for different coins. Do all of the POS coins require keeping the wallet open 24/7?

It would be great if you could add some info on what is required to generate the POS coins for each coin on your list.

I've done some preliminary reading today and it seems with some coins you might be able to risk opening the wallet as little as once a week and still get your stake coins paid, but I've also read conflicting reports that suggest nearly all POS wallet needs to be 'unlocked' and opened all the time to generate interest. I'm not sure how to 'unlock' a wallet, but suspect it might be the same as 'encrypt' a wallet.

This information is critical for any would be stakehunters, so it would be good to add that info in this thread.

Thanks again for starting a very informative discussion!

in short, encrypted wallet needs to be unlocked before you can stake
(if you don't encrypt your wallet, coins will also stake - NOT recommended)

to unlock encrypted wallet execute the following command in debug window
walletpassphrase mypassword 999999

it is NOT required to have your wallet open and unlocked 24/7 to stake

coins age with your wallet offline
when you bring your wallet online with high coin age coins, you stand a better chance of staking than coins on the network with lower coin age

for more info refer to
http://wiki.hobonickels.info/index.php?title=Proof_of_Stake

Thanks for taking the time to explain this.

+1
Thanks


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Ayle56 on March 26, 2014, 03:49:11 PM


when you bring your wallet online with high coin age coins, you stand a better chance of staking than coins on the network with lower coin age



Can high coin age coins stake in as little as half an hour?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: campeck on March 26, 2014, 04:10:19 PM
Bladecoin is stake

bladecoin.net


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: doulos on March 26, 2014, 04:44:40 PM
when you bring your wallet online with high coin age coins, you stand a better chance of staking than coins on the network with lower coin age

Can high coin age coins stake in as little as half an hour?

i've had coins stake in less than 30mins after opening (and unlocking) my wallet yes


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: drakoin on March 26, 2014, 04:53:49 PM
This bug fix of  "getbalance accountname" might be interesting for other PoS coins:

1st report https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.msg5752883#msg5752883 #9452
2nd report https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.msg5877787#msg5877787 #10757

short error analysis https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.msg5883670#msg5883670 #10802
longer description https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.msg5908594#msg5908594 #11009

 ;)


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: jmlindn on March 29, 2014, 01:26:13 PM
You forgot the best one, Grain - GRA.

Lots of upside and much older than most of those listed, great dev and community.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: YYmeans on March 29, 2014, 01:35:28 PM
seems you did not update in time ?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: berone on March 29, 2014, 02:38:41 PM
pos is becoming more popular.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: wasamata on March 29, 2014, 04:05:34 PM
add communitycoin to this list (comm)

its a great coin 1 million free to the first 1000 distribution (if u get in now u may still not be too late).

1 day stake.

30% declining year by year.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: YYmeans on March 29, 2014, 04:09:24 PM
pos is becoming more popular.

that's good , i feel like investing altcions with POS .


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: CryptoClub on March 30, 2014, 03:35:37 AM
I have some questions and thoughts on the matter. First of all, there seems to be older ones that are POW/POS the entire time, this is nice that they can always be mined and great to keep miners involved. That does add the complexity for value dropping long term with increasing mining power and difficulty not matching it. (ASICs) For example, I love PHS, but it can be mined and with a high interest, so generally appears to be losing value faster than it generates coins.

MINTcoin, is that the first one with the limited POW and then POS phase? Then ZEITcoin cloned it, and then Blackcoin came out right away - with a low interest rate and super short POW phase. This allowed it to beat MINT to the POS period even though it was released later. (ECCcoin is out now and overall I think has some improvements to the MINT design)

My questions (seems difficult to find this information anywhere)

#1 Is MINT the first limited POW/POS hybrid, and were all the others previously always POW/POS combined. If true, that makes it sort of unique, if you love or hate the idea, it does seem to be getting a lot of clones fast. ZEIT/BC/ECC/EDGECOIN-although likely a scam... others?

#2 BC ending POW has rarity by miners not dumping it, with indirect mining tech putting buying pressure, even with the low interest rate this seems more likely to gain value than a POW/POS minable coin, especially when ASICs start hitting them and miners dumping. So isn't the limited POW actually a MASSIVE advantage for a coin, rather than a disadvantage? Thinking long term, mass adoption, easier to have a wallet than a bunch of 280x cards or Gridseeds. More appealing to the consumer market later, I think?

#3 Don't limited POW coins have an advantage by being ASIC invincible after the POW phase?

#4 Are POW/POS coins in the POW phase immune to 51% attacks unless someone has over 51% of the stake? Heard yes and no...?



Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: CryptoClub on March 30, 2014, 03:39:41 AM
Interested because long term Peercoin has one of the best looking charts. I think some of the new hybrids could end up following a chart like that, and if so, they have not reached "take-off" point yet. Anyway, my favorites are MINT/BC/ECC, precisely because miners can't dump them and crash the value constantly. Eventually enough people should horde and value go up, rather than just drop constantly like we see with almost every new LTC clone.

I also don't think billions or millions or hundreds of thousands matters at all. Just the interest and how many new coins (as an overall percentage) can flood the market.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: wantrepreneur on April 02, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
seems you did not update in time ?

blackcoin


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: precrime3 on April 02, 2014, 03:50:38 PM
ECC and Zeitcoins? Also Ghostcoins?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: psybits on April 04, 2014, 04:17:58 PM
Thanks OP for this thread - this is the best Proof of Stake thread on the forum ;)


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: paspi on April 07, 2014, 12:49:53 PM
Hello everyone,

In Mint we had a bug that affects "getbalance accountname" RPC calls since PoS phase started. This was a bug only for wallet's account keeping functions -- overall balance of the wallet was always correct. A fix for the bug is available on GitHub. I think the same bug may be affecting other PoS coins. Thanks to drakoin for making me announce this here.

Let me explain you the problem;

There are 2 ways to calculate the balance in the wallet, one sums unspent TxOuts and gives a single balance, and the other tries to bind minted coins / received coins / sent coins with accounts. Normally, result of these 2 methods should exactly match. In our case, they didn't (and I suspect other PoS coins to have the same problem). This is similar to the bugs CryptoRush experienced with BC when keeping records of customer balances in wallet's account functionality (it may even be the same bug, I don't know).


This was my problem after some PoS minting:

Code:
00:20:17 listaccounts             --> Summing these don't match wallet's balance
00:20:17 {
"" : -9970744.49303600,
"account1" : 0.00000000,
"account2" : 17487916.06958000,
"account3" : 200000.00000000,
"account4" : 1250000.00000000,
"account5" : 5035.17977500,
"account6" : 4984.06119900,
"account7" : 3450.50390700,
"account8" : 88294.56108000
}
00:20:57 getbalance *
00:20:57 9068935.88250500             --> This is wrong, but consistent with listaccounts sum
00:21:12 getbalance '*'
00:21:12 9068935.88250500
00:21:00 getbalance
00:21:00 8428756.53745800             --> This is the correct wallet balance
00:21:02 getbalance ""
00:21:02 -9970744.49303600            --> This is wrong, but consistent with listaccounts

The patch can be obtained from the following github commit. Note that unfortunately it's committed together with another change that disables PoW. Only changes in wallet.h, wallet.cpp, rpcwallet.cpp, main.h are relevant.

https://github.com/mintcoinproject/mintcoin/commit/dad79713d4172a569238de1b736abfbf307acfbd

Still, even with this patch, I wouldn't trust wallet's per-account functions to keep customers' finance information (there are more information that should be given in PoS wallets' RPC calls for proper bookkeeping, such as listing of per account stakes, mature/immature coins, etc), but I believe this is a step in the right direction. I will be very happy to receive some feedback about the patch and if it affects other PoS coins.


These are the testing steps to see if another PoS coin is affected :
Quote
Test-1: These two should return the same amount
Code:
getbalance
getbalance *

Test-2: listaccounts output and individual account getbalances should match. "" is a special account, has to be checked.
Code:
listaccounts
getbalance ""
getbalance some_account_with_some_spent_and_some_minted_coints

Test-3: getbalance * and sum of listaccounts should match
Code:
getbalance *
listaccounts


thanks to drakoin :)

This bug fix of  "getbalance accountname" might be interesting for other PoS coins:

1st report https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.msg5752883#msg5752883 #9452
2nd report https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.msg5877787#msg5877787 #10757

short error analysis https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.msg5883670#msg5883670 #10802
longer description https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=450381.msg5908594#msg5908594 #11009

 ;)


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: upekha on April 07, 2014, 01:28:48 PM
NEM is Proof of Importance!


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: GTO911 on April 07, 2014, 02:52:01 PM
Community Coin - Pure POS


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: catoshi on April 07, 2014, 03:08:23 PM
Without CAT this thread is basically useless to the world

http://cdn.coins-auctioned.com/uploads/images/5000-9999/5940/5940_1282542725.jpg


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: drakoin on April 07, 2014, 03:22:52 PM
Thanks to drakoin for making me announce this here.
You're welcome. I had noticed that bug in my mint wallet, too - and I was very happy it got fixed! As coins share code, others might face the same problem.

Thanks for announcing your solution here. Cooperation and synergy is so much more profitable for this whole scene than competition and destruction.

I'm poor. Please tip me here www.tiny.cc/drakointip for my ideas and my work
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Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: GTO911 on April 07, 2014, 03:23:49 PM
Without CAT this thread is basically useless to the world

http://cdn.coins-auctioned.com/uploads/images/5000-9999/5940/5940_1282542725.jpg

So are you seriously thinking cats would work as a currency?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: solarion on April 07, 2014, 03:27:53 PM
"The Scryptcat version of Bitcoin!"

How is this relevant to this thread?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: catoshi on April 07, 2014, 04:39:10 PM
Without CAT this thread is basically useless to the world

http://cdn.coins-auctioned.com/uploads/images/5000-9999/5940/5940_1282542725.jpg

So are you seriously thinking cats would work as a currency?


I can only see Catcoins and dogecoins working as a currency, mainly for animal rescue agencies and making it easier to donate to them!


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: mohammedfaiz143 on April 08, 2014, 12:19:10 AM
There is a new coin thar features Pure POS i.e, there will no mining for coins except for TX fees and the coins are distributed among those who accept there TOS and agree to promote their coin

More info here @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=558319.0


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Schwarzalbert on April 08, 2014, 01:13:54 AM
Whats about EXO-COIN ( POS-POW-MIX)??

Any information about that coin?

Would like to invest in this new coin, if it makes sense.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Hank3 on April 09, 2014, 01:37:45 AM
BitGold is POS


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: StakeHunter on April 10, 2014, 01:57:36 AM
Give me a few days and I will update the list...thanks for the positive input.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: omahapoker on April 10, 2014, 04:04:31 AM
POS is the reason im into BC and MINT




Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: kysejoy on April 10, 2014, 04:46:34 AM
probably a totally dumb question but if I don't ask I'll never know (and probably 100 other newbies that are too afraid to look dumb)

What happens when POS coins are held on an exchange?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Monetizer on April 10, 2014, 04:54:48 AM
probably a totally dumb question but if I don't ask I'll never know (and probably 100 other newbies that are too afraid to look dumb)

What happens when POS coins are held on an exchange?

The exchange takes the PoS generally. Usually if you believe in a coin you should have it in your wallet anyway. If the coins arent in your wallet you don't really own them, they are like IOU's


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: kysejoy on April 10, 2014, 05:00:47 AM
probably a totally dumb question but if I don't ask I'll never know (and probably 100 other newbies that are too afraid to look dumb)

What happens when POS coins are held on an exchange?

The exchange takes the PoS generally. Usually if you believe in a coin you should have it in your wallet anyway. If the coins arent in your wallet you don't really own them, they are like IOU's

Thanks, slowly, slowly I am learning :)


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: XBCplus on April 10, 2014, 05:18:00 AM
Bitcoin+ is Proof of Stake


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: marcus1986 on April 10, 2014, 07:34:29 AM
Nas is the 100% Proof-of-Stake (PoS) currency.  
What is NAS? It's a descendant of NXT and first working fork of NXT's source code.
Official Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523187.0
Official Website: http://nascoin.org/

Also it's 5 times cheaper that Nxt prices right after launch, before Dgex.







Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: precrime3 on April 10, 2014, 11:12:07 AM
Why would anyone buy a nxt clone, if you could buy original? What dies it offer over first Gen?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: paardenkip on April 10, 2014, 07:03:51 PM
POS is the future of cryptocurrency!

My top 3

1. PhilosopherStone - PHS
2. HoboNickel - HBN
3. Blackcoin - BC



Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: precrime3 on April 10, 2014, 07:04:32 PM
Blackmon 1% POS yearly rate? No thank you, try Tekcoin xD


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: solarion on April 16, 2014, 06:36:52 AM
Some of the really fantastic PoS coins have very high pricetags at this point, making them risky. Zeitcoin and ECCoin both pay 25% and can be stacked for only a few satoshis each. Both are PoW/PoS hybrids and both now have or will soon have very low PoW distribution(Zeitcoin is 1/block currently).

Zeitcoin:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=487814.0

ECCoin:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=503236.0


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: mhps on April 16, 2014, 07:09:37 AM
The purpose of POS is to secure the network. POS reward is paid to secure the network by minting. High % return of POS is just a self-diluting game that puts a downward pressure on the coin's price, hence doesn't offer real return as "interest".


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: solarion on April 16, 2014, 07:18:29 AM
The purpose of POS is to secure the network. POS reward is paid to secure the network by minting. High % return of POS is just a self-diluting game that puts a downward pressure on the coin's price, hence doesn't offer real return as "interest".

What about this? Is this paragraph also correct in your opinion?

The purpose of POW is to secure the network. POW reward is paid to secure the network by minting. High block reward of POW is just a self-diluting game that puts a downward pressure on the coin's price, hence doesn't offer real return.




Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: iopq on April 16, 2014, 07:36:49 AM
The purpose of POS is to secure the network. POS reward is paid to secure the network by minting. High % return of POS is just a self-diluting game that puts a downward pressure on the coin's price, hence doesn't offer real return as "interest".

What about this? Is this paragraph also correct in your opinion?

The purpose of POW is to secure the network. POW reward is paid to secure the network by minting. High block reward of POW is just a self-diluting game that puts a downward pressure on the coin's price, hence doesn't offer real return.



yes, this is correct
the problem with bitcoin is 5% inflation right now is a little bit high

it doesn't offer any advantage over 2% inflation security-wise other than giving ASIC miners a higher stake in the game


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Kergekoin on April 16, 2014, 08:46:10 AM
The purpose of POS is to secure the network. POS reward is paid to secure the network by minting. High % return of POS is just a self-diluting game that puts a downward pressure on the coin's price, hence doesn't offer real return as "interest".

What about this? Is this paragraph also correct in your opinion?

The purpose of POW is to secure the network. POW reward is paid to secure the network by minting. High block reward of POW is just a self-diluting game that puts a downward pressure on the coin's price, hence doesn't offer real return.



yes, this is correct
the problem with bitcoin is 5% inflation right now is a little bit high

it doesn't offer any advantage over 2% inflation security-wise other than giving ASIC miners a higher stake in the game

If you want to use fancy words like "inflation", then better make sure that you know what it means.
Heres wiki for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: upekha on April 16, 2014, 10:30:20 AM
NEMs gonna be POI, holymoly!


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: griffinriz on April 16, 2014, 11:17:42 AM
NHZ ,Distribution still going on.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: mhps on April 17, 2014, 01:19:14 AM
The purpose of POS is to secure the network. POS reward is paid to secure the network by minting. High % return of POS is just a self-diluting game that puts a downward pressure on the coin's price, hence doesn't offer real return as "interest".

What about this? Is this paragraph also correct in your opinion?

The purpose of POW is to secure the network. POW reward is paid to secure the network by minting. High block reward of POW is just a self-diluting game that puts a downward pressure on the coin's price, hence doesn't offer real return.

That is fine, but irrelevant to this thread which is about POS coins.

POS is a way to secure the network without spending a huge amount of energy hashing. POS reward marging, after sufficient adjustment by the market, will be extremely thin because it really doesn't take a lot to secure a POS network. Any extra reward will used to lower the price of the coin, canceling out the gain. So using POS reward to get rich is not going to work.

Using POS coins to store value is highly likely to work -- POS is very efficient at keep its coin network running.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: solarion on April 17, 2014, 01:34:44 AM
The purpose of POS is to secure the network. POS reward is paid to secure the network by minting. High % return of POS is just a self-diluting game that puts a downward pressure on the coin's price, hence doesn't offer real return as "interest".

What about this? Is this paragraph also correct in your opinion?

The purpose of POW is to secure the network. POW reward is paid to secure the network by minting. High block reward of POW is just a self-diluting game that puts a downward pressure on the coin's price, hence doesn't offer real return.

That is fine, but irrelevant to this thread which is about POS coins.

POS is a way to secure the network without spending a huge amount of energy hashing. POS reward marging, after sufficient adjustment by the market, will be extremely thin because it really doesn't take a lot to secure a POS network. Any extra reward will used to lower the price of the coin, canceling out the gain. So using POS reward to get rich is not going to work.

Using POS coins to store value is highly likely to work -- POS is very efficient at keep its coin network running.

I don't know if you've noticed but all mining margins have contracted significantly recently.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: RavenWing71 on April 27, 2014, 09:42:19 AM
Another Proof-Of-Stake Coin -- AsiaCoin -- http://theasiacoin.com/

Claims first year 100%

From source code at https://github.com/AsiaCoin/AsiaCoin/blob/master/src/util.h
Code:
static const int64 COIN = 1000000;

From source code at https://github.com/AsiaCoin/AsiaCoin/blob/master/src/main.h
Code:
static const int64 MAX_MONEY = 360000000 * COIN;	// 36 mil
static const int64 MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE = 0.10 * COIN; // 10% annual interest

From source code at https://github.com/AsiaCoin/AsiaCoin/blob/master/src/main.cpp
Code:
unsigned int nStakeMinAge = 60 * 60 * 24 * 14;	// minimum age for coin age: 14d
unsigned int nStakeMaxAge = 60 * 60 * 24 * 365 * 10; // stake age of full weight: 10y
unsigned int nStakeTargetSpacing = 60; // 60 sec block spacing
Code:
const int YEARLY_BLOCKCOUNT = 525600;	// 365 * 1440
int64 GetProofOfStakeReward(int64 nCoinAge, unsigned int nBits, unsigned int nTime, int nHeight)
{
    int64 nRewardCoinYear;
nRewardCoinYear = MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE;

if(nHeight < YEARLY_BLOCKCOUNT)
{
nRewardCoinYear = 7.15 * MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE; //due to the compounded interest
}
else
{
nRewardCoinYear = MAX_MINT_PROOF_OF_STAKE / 5;
}

    int64 nSubsidy = nCoinAge * nRewardCoinYear / 365;
if (fDebug && GetBoolArg("-printcreation"))
        printf("GetProofOfStakeReward(): create=%s nCoinAge=%"PRI64d" nBits=%d\n", FormatMoney(nSubsidy).c_str(), nCoinAge, nBits);

    return nSubsidy;
}


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: jubalix on April 27, 2014, 10:11:36 AM
you need to include coin destruction as well eg peercoin destroys coins per transaction. This effects overall inflation and coin dynamics


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: vrm86 on April 27, 2014, 12:20:29 PM
POS is the reason im into BC


Seriously? BC price has been changing by 50-100% in one week intervals, so does 1% annual PoS interest really matters?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Burninj on April 28, 2014, 03:45:45 PM
You should add badgercoin seems to be first X11 with pos...


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: David Latapie on May 09, 2014, 12:15:19 AM
Could you explain the difference between yearly and NVCS?
Yearly, I understand, it is like a bank account, right? But NVCS? I know it is related to Novacoin, but apart from this, I don't understand. I think it means this is a maximum, whilst yearly are an exact number.

Thank you


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Kergekoin on May 09, 2014, 07:24:42 AM
There has been massive amount of PoW/PoS coins launched lately. Majority of them have rapid PoW phase for few days or weeks and then continuing as pure PoS. Just like MINT and BC did first.
I guess MINT and BC huge price jumps did nice job of pulling new clones out.
There is at least one which shows some creativity.

Digit  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=597634.msg6570943#msg6570943) looks rather interesting.

0.2% monthly PoS base interest.
0.4% on the second month
0.6% on third month
and climbing by 0.2% until PoW mining ends after 3 years from launch.
That makes month nr36 monthly interest of 7.2%.
Interest rate will fall back down after mining is ended.
Interest min payout time is 1 day. No maximum limit.

PoW block reward is dependent on its falling multiplier and difficulty multiplier.
time multiplier starts at 3.34 and falls to 0.1 by the month nr36.

https://github.com/DigitSF/Digit

Code:
unsigned int nStakeMinAge = 24 * 60 * 60; // 1 day
unsigned int nStakeMaxAge = -1; // unlimited

Code:
static const int64_t MAX_MONEY = 90000000000 * COIN;
static const int64_t MAX_PROOF_OF_STAKE = 0.2 * CENT; // 0.2%

Code:
const int MONTHLY_BLOCKCOUNT = 60000; 
int64_t GetProofOfStakeReward(int64_t nCoinAge, int64_t nFees, int nHeight)
{
    unsigned int MONTHLY_MULTIPLIER = 1;

    for (int MONTH = 1; MONTH < 71; MONTH++)
{
        if(nHeight < MONTH * MONTHLY_BLOCKCOUNT)
{
MONTHLY_MULTIPLIER = ((MONTH<36) ? MONTH : 36 - MONTH%36);
        }
    }
if (MONTHLY_MULTIPLIER < 1)
{
MONTHLY_MULTIPLIER = 1;
}

    int64_t nSubsidy = nCoinAge * MAX_PROOF_OF_STAKE * MONTHLY_MULTIPLIER  / 30;


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: David Latapie on May 12, 2014, 10:37:46 AM
There has been massive amount of PoW/PoS coins launched lately. Majority of them have rapid PoW phase for few days or weeks and then continuing as pure PoS. Just like MINT and BC did first.
I guess MINT and BC huge price jumps did nice job of pulling new clones out.
There is at least one which shows some creativity.

Digit  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=597634.msg6570943#msg6570943) looks rather interesting.

0.2% monthly PoS base interest.
0.4% on the second month
0.6% on third month
and climbing by 0.2% until PoW mining ends after 3 years from launch.
That makes month nr36 monthly interest of 7.2%.
It would be interesting if the interest was higher. As tokyoghetto stated it in his HBN investment journal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=406112), "20% is not enough when the price can drop 50% overnight".
Too bad because the growing PoS idea is interesting.
5% per month would be much more interesting. 60% at the end of the first year is on par with Philosopher's Stone (less rewarding, since you would break even with PHS only at 10th month, but starting from year 2 it would be interesting).
+5% every month for first year => 60%
+2.5% every month for second year => 90 %
+1.25% every month for third year. => 105%. Considering TEK is at 480% an year (6300% with compounding) and performs very well (too well, I'd say), it may not be too much. PHS is at +50% but not NVCS like TEK/HBN and NVC, which means the interest is constant and doesn't depend on do not decrease with the network difficulty.
Ending it brutally, though, would kill the coin so something would have to be considered.

I feel like starting from April, high-stake coin got less interesting to buy because people started to take notice of this coin. Maybe MINT is the one that raised awareness of PoS to a greater audience.
Now, will new get-rich-quick schemes will divert money from high-PoS (=> price drop, you can buy) or will we have to resort to newly-created high-PoS coin? Unfortunately, all of them (LGD, GWT) seem to be premined :/

Edit: as usual, the linux binaries don't work (/home/david/Tιlιchargements/Digit-qt Linux 64bit/Digit-qt: error while loading shared libraries: libminiupnpc.so.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Kergekoin on May 12, 2014, 11:06:11 AM
It would be interesting if the interest was higher. As tokyoghetto stated it in his HBN investment journal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=406112), "20% is not enough when the price can drop 50% overnight".
Too bad because the growing PoS idea is interesting.
5% per month would be much more interesting. 60% at the end of the first year is on par with Philosopher's Stone (less rewarding, since you would break even with PHS only at 10th month, but starting from year 2 it would be interesting).
+5% every month for first year => 60%
+2.5% every month for second year => 90 %
+1.25% every month for third year. => 105%. Considering TEK is at 480% an year (6300% with compounding) and performs very well (too well, I'd say), it may not be too much. PHS is at +50% but not NVCS like TEK/HBN and NVC, which means the interest is constant and doesn't depend on do not decrease with the network difficulty.
Ending it brutally, though, would kill the coin so something would have to be considered.

I feel like starting from April, high-stake coin got less interesting to buy because people started to take notice of this coin. Maybe MINT is the one that raised awareness of PoS to a greater audience.
Now, will new get-rich-quick schemes will divert money from high-PoS (=> price drop, you can buy) or will we have to resort to newly-created high-PoS coin? Unfortunately, all of them (LGD, GWT) seem to be premined :/

Heres some additional info how Digit PoS is built.
It starts from 0.2%  first month. Then 0.4% 2nd, 0.5% 3rd and continues until it reaches 7.2% in month 36.
Adding this together and here is what we get:

1st year = 15.6%  (Average monthy interest in year 1 is 1.3%)
2nd year = 44.4% (Average monthy interest in year 2 is 3.7%)
3rd year = 73,2% (Average monthy interest in year 3 is 6.1%)

From here, interest rate will start dropping.

4th year = 70.8% (Average monthy interest in year 4 is 5.9%)
5th year = 42% (Average monthy interest in year 5 is 3.5%)
6th year = 13.4% (Average monthy interest in year 6 is 1.12%)
7th and all years after that = 2.4% (Average monthy interest in year 7 is 0.2%)

Since their PoW is difficulty dependant, it will should sort itsself out just beautifully. If mining profitability goes down due high supply, then block reward will go down and new supply will decrease.
Vice versa if the opposite situation occurs.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: David Latapie on May 12, 2014, 12:47:07 PM
It would be interesting if the interest was higher. As tokyoghetto stated it in his HBN investment journal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=406112), "20% is not enough when the price can drop 50% overnight".
Too bad because the growing PoS idea is interesting.
5% per month would be much more interesting. 60% at the end of the first year is on par with Philosopher's Stone (less rewarding, since you would break even with PHS only at 10th month, but starting from year 2 it would be interesting).
+5% every month for first year => 60%
+2.5% every month for second year => 90 %
+1.25% every month for third year. => 105%. Considering TEK is at 480% an year (6300% with compounding) and performs very well (too well, I'd say), it may not be too much. PHS is at +50% but not NVCS like TEK/HBN and NVC, which means the interest is constant and doesn't depend on do not decrease with the network difficulty.
Ending it brutally, though, would kill the coin so something would have to be considered.

I feel like starting from April, high-stake coin got less interesting to buy because people started to take notice of this coin. Maybe MINT is the one that raised awareness of PoS to a greater audience.
Now, will new get-rich-quick schemes will divert money from high-PoS (=> price drop, you can buy) or will we have to resort to newly-created high-PoS coin? Unfortunately, all of them (LGD, GWT) seem to be premined :/

Heres some additional info how Digit PoS is built.
It starts from 0.2%  first month. Then 0.4% 2nd, 0.5% 3rd and continues until it reaches 7.2% in month 36.
Adding this together and here is what we get:

1st year = 15.6%  (Average monthy interest in year 1 is 1.3%)
2nd year = 44.4% (Average monthy interest in year 2 is 3.7%)
3rd year = 73,2% (Average monthy interest in year 3 is 6.1%)

From here, interest rate will start dropping.

4th year = 70.8% (Average monthy interest in year 4 is 5.9%)
5th year = 42% (Average monthy interest in year 5 is 3.5%)
6th year = 13.4% (Average monthy interest in year 6 is 1.12%)
7th and all years after that = 2.4% (Average monthy interest in year 7 is 0.2%)

Since their PoW is difficulty dependant, it will should sort itsself out just beautifully. If mining profitability goes down due high supply, then block reward will go down and new supply will decrease.
Vice versa if the opposite situation occurs.
Even considering compounding interest (which takes CPU ressources, by the way since you let your wallet on), this is still too low (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=406112.msg5517157#msg5517157) in a world where price can drop 50% in one day. It's fortunate min's price is very stable, but no evidence this will be the same for this one.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Kergekoin on May 12, 2014, 01:46:27 PM
Even considering compounding interest (which takes CPU ressources, by the way since you let your wallet on), this is still too low (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=406112.msg5517157#msg5517157) in a world where price can drop 50% in one day. It's fortunate min's price is very stable, but no evidence this will be the same for this one.

Its rather obvious that coins in babyshoes will have large movements. It the matter of market dept - or the absent of it. Even bitcoin is still a small child.

I have no doubt that HBN is one of the gems in the pot of cryptocoins.  Im curious how HBN staking formula will do in long term period (i mean in 3-5 years time). It attracts to keep more coins in your wallet, but creates a lot of excessive supply when there is no demand for coins and difficulty is low. Seems controversial strategy to me.
Digit PoW being driven by demand/difficulty and PoS smoothly pressuring PoW towards the end looks like a good idea to me.
Both have interesting formula for PoW/PoS.  HBN is already proved to be solid. Lets see how the Digit does.

PS. I guess this topic is not right for this kind of discussion. Perhaps we could continue interesting coins discussion somewhere else?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: David Latapie on May 12, 2014, 04:10:03 PM
PS. I guess this topic is not right for this kind of discussion. Perhaps we could continue interesting coins discussion somewhere else?
Like How PoS works (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=606342.msg6690404#msg6690404)?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: David Latapie on May 21, 2014, 02:01:08 AM
Could you had Legendary coin (LGD) ?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=530175
50% annual, premined


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: GraniteCoin on May 21, 2014, 02:54:34 AM
Nice collection of PoS list


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: David Latapie on May 21, 2014, 02:58:01 AM
I created a spreadsheet mostly based on your data. Please everyone, improve on it
Proof-of-stake List (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ikUfhQXaWMe8BrfS8QpiO3X86xynoK0U6eLlWpE4wDk/edit)


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Enthef420 on June 08, 2014, 12:52:44 AM
I created a spreadsheet mostly based on your data. Please everyone, improve on it
Proof-of-stake List (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ikUfhQXaWMe8BrfS8QpiO3X86xynoK0U6eLlWpE4wDk/edit)

Added Mastiff coin X11 5.5% stake annual


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: MastiffCoin on June 08, 2014, 03:18:20 AM
MastiffCoin has 15% stake - updated the spreadsheet :)


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: ecoinspro on June 08, 2014, 08:12:08 AM
Coin2 is POS


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: psybits on June 15, 2014, 07:04:52 PM
I'm currently involved with 5% PoS monthly (paid daily) coin HYPER. They have already set up a Counterstrike server where people can get FREE HYPER for fragging bots and earning achievements in the game. Beyond this, the team is also setting up Minecraft servers and plugins, an online HYPER arcade that will feature many indie game developers and where people can earn small amounts of HYPER for playing, an old cult space MMO that should be live soon, as well as the main HYPER MMO project that is constantly being worked on.

Unlike with most coins, the HYPER premine is being used to set up all of the above projects and more. The team is very active and working day and night on delivering results. The vast majority of the PoS coins on this forum have very limited ecosystems and are for speculation only. HYPER is unique in that the coin will be embedded in a complex and growing ecosystem of gamers, traders and stakers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624651.0

DISCLOSURE: I am currently on the HYPER team as the manager and escrow for the core HYPER MMO Development fund. Being a Devcoin admin and the manager of the advertising revenue from Devcoin's open source wiki Devtome, I am both qualified for this role, and I can see the benefit in having some funds set aside to fund the first MMO in history to be built by a cryptocurrency!


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: wmcorless on June 27, 2014, 06:42:39 PM
Don't forget Paccoin (PAC) PoS Sha256d coin.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Kergekoin on June 27, 2014, 06:47:42 PM
I'm currently involved with 5% PoS monthly (paid daily) coin HYPER. They have already set up a Counterstrike server where people can get FREE HYPER for fragging bots and earning achievements in the game. Beyond this, the team is also setting up Minecraft servers and plugins, an online HYPER arcade that will feature many indie game developers and where people can earn small amounts of HYPER for playing, an old cult space MMO that should be live soon, as well as the main HYPER MMO project that is constantly being worked on.

Unlike with most coins, the HYPER premine is being used to set up all of the above projects and more. The team is very active and working day and night on delivering results. The vast majority of the PoS coins on this forum have very limited ecosystems and are for speculation only. HYPER is unique in that the coin will be embedded in a complex and growing ecosystem of gamers, traders and stakers.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624651.0

DISCLOSURE: I am currently on the HYPER team as the manager and escrow for the core HYPER MMO Development fund. Being a Devcoin admin and the manager of the advertising revenue from Devcoin's open source wiki Devtome, I am both qualified for this role, and I can see the benefit in having some funds set aside to fund the first MMO in history to be built by a cryptocurrency!

GL with your job.
BTW, do you also have a decent coder in team now? Im asking because the person who launched the HYPER is a complete n00b in cryptocurrencies. He made false statements and argued against clear facts in the beginning of the Hyper announcement thread.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: omahapoker on June 27, 2014, 07:57:59 PM
jackpotcoin gives 44% first year



word


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Instamatic on June 27, 2014, 08:02:31 PM
PoS makes sense if these were investments. How does it help these become currencies? If it simply benefits those who hold coins, it would create artificially scarce environments where the price would go up.

not every investment vehicle is a currency. You dont buy eggs and  milk with MSFT or GOOG or APPL. Nothing wrong with giving a dividend to coin holders, its the reward for taking on risk, and securing their respective network.

I keep hearing this "store of value" statement about various coins but would have to disagree.  The reason GOOG or APPL have value is that they represent a portion percentage of an actual corporation that earns revenue.  Gold/Silver/Metals have practical manufacturing uses which drive their value.  A cryptocoin that simply has no function other than a "store of value" doesn't seem very valuable to me, just more hype and justification for the lack of marketing/development to make it a useful commodity.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Instamatic on June 27, 2014, 08:09:42 PM
Why would anyone buy a nxt clone, if you could buy original? What dies it offer over first Gen?

You could insert any clone coin in this question really.  The way I see it, as most all of them are open source it has led to many talented individuals (and some scammers) to clone a coin and promise a new innovation on top of the original that would make it better in some way (and for the promise of making loads of money after the coin exchange rate increases dramatically).  In some instances, it's a clone with the new flavor of the month tech aspect. 

I personally think the crypto community would be better served by having these talented individuals with innovations team with the developer of an established coin and add on to the existing structure rather than create a MyNewCoin v2.1.  The proliferation just dillutes the arena, deprives established coins of needed talent to grow, and causes a perceptive hurdle for outside investors/newcomers.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: bc_wwang on June 28, 2014, 03:40:17 AM
NXT series: nas,nhz,nfd,n2coin,nem,nxtl,nbc and so on.
Too many to pay attention to.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: BlueCoiner on June 28, 2014, 03:41:34 AM
BlueCoin x11 algorithm.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: ShibecoinSucks on June 28, 2014, 04:21:49 AM
I was just logging onto this site to look for a list of POS coins and i found this thread close to the top of the Alternate Cryptocurrencies Forum. So that was easy! Thanks everyone who contributed!


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: kingscrown on June 28, 2014, 04:24:39 AM
SIS Siamese Coin x11
LGD Legendary COin Scrypt


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: DrGil on July 05, 2014, 07:23:45 AM
You've got TrustPlus out there now. 
         
 *PoS is 18% APR
 *Interest starts after 8 Hours
 *Interest stops after 30 Days

Also, wasn't sure if you considered GuerrillaCoin POS -- as they tout themselves to be Proof-of-Strength. 


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: austin_outland on July 24, 2014, 10:31:18 PM
Is Reddcoin (RDD) going to be add?
Used Proof of Stake Velocity (PoSV).
Paper Here: http://www.reddcoin.com/papers/PoSV.pdf (http://www.reddcoin.com/papers/PoSV.pdf)
FAQ Here: http://www.reddcoin.com/papers/PoSV_FAQ.pdf (http://www.reddcoin.com/papers/PoSV_FAQ.pdf)


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: pikabit on July 24, 2014, 11:01:57 PM
Best POS prolly NXT


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: clout on July 24, 2014, 11:05:48 PM
BitSharesX (BTSX)


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: NewMoneyEra on July 25, 2014, 02:52:37 AM
Best POS prolly NXT

Buy NXT if you want marketing, pretty logos, pretty girls and lots of enthusiastic people who are really quite clueless as to the technical realities of cryptos.

Buy Peercoin if you want fundamentally good engineering, design and development.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Blue Neck on August 03, 2014, 01:57:12 AM
Bank Note (BN) should be added to this list.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: digitalindustry on August 03, 2014, 04:31:11 AM
NXT series: nas,nhz,nfd,n2coin,nem,nxtl,nbc and so on.
Too many to pay attention to.

just a correction there those are not PoS they are Po$

big difference.

Proof of Stake (PoS)

and

Proof of Scam (Po$)

are two completely different systems.

both have their advantages and disadvantages - but we should categorized them correctly

: http://kolinevans.wordpress.com/2014/07/02/on-po-proof-of-scam-defining-the-rational-crypto-currency-exclusive-socioeconomic-dynamic/ 



Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: boogi on August 15, 2014, 12:12:59 AM
Nautiluscoin is about to become PoS.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: brian_nguyen on August 24, 2014, 06:14:54 PM
WeAreSatoshi - WSX is a hybrid POW/POS coin. www.wsx.co.in

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=724727.0


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: wmcorless on September 16, 2014, 04:42:07 AM
Is this site not updating?
Paccoin is a PoS Sha256


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Enthef420 on September 22, 2014, 09:22:33 PM
HYPERstake offers over 750% annual return on stake with interest control. Coin is doing well on the major exchanges atm. http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/HyperStake_Wiki


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Bombadil on October 03, 2014, 09:00:16 AM
Is this site not updating?
Paccoin is a PoS Sha256

Even if it's not updating, I still want to say that Blackcoin has switched from Scrypt PoS to SHA256 PoS. It had a Scrypt PoW though.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on October 03, 2014, 10:09:03 AM
NXT series: nas,nhz,nfd,n2coin,nem,nxtl,nbc and so on.
Too many to pay attention to.

just a correction there those are not PoS they are Po$

big difference.

Proof of Stake (PoS)

and

Proof of Scam (Po$)

are two completely different systems.

both have their advantages and disadvantages - but we should categorized them correctly

: http://kolinevans.wordpress.com/2014/07/02/on-po-proof-of-scam-defining-the-rational-crypto-currency-exclusive-socioeconomic-dynamic/  



Stop pumping that blog, it was labelled as RETARDED many times before.

And, pls, go back to pump your quarkcoins.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: HCLivess on December 03, 2014, 12:17:12 PM
Bumping for inquiry about future updates


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: vegasguy on December 04, 2014, 02:04:14 PM
Bumping for inquiry about future updates

If you looking for daily info that easy to read there is a forum dedicated specifically to high stake pos coins. It even has them in order from highest to lowest percent with links to wallets and pools (if still in pow). They start at a minimum of 100% interest and go all the way up to 10,000% interest. Enjoy. http://bitcoinlasvegas.net/category/highest-percent-proof-of-stake-coins/ (http://bitcoinlasvegas.net/category/highest-percent-proof-of-stake-coins/)



Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: HCLivess on December 16, 2014, 12:51:03 PM
Bumping for inquiry about future updates

If you looking for daily info that easy to read there is a forum dedicated specifically to high stake pos coins. It even has them in order from highest to lowest percent with links to wallets and pools (if still in pow). They start at a minimum of 100% interest and go all the way up to 10,000% interest. Enjoy. http://bitcoinlasvegas.net/category/highest-percent-proof-of-stake-coins/ (http://bitcoinlasvegas.net/category/highest-percent-proof-of-stake-coins/)



Thanks, but that's not really very synoptic


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Videlicet on December 16, 2014, 03:49:33 PM
Coinshield has 3 Block Production Channels: CPU, GPU, and POS. Uses SK-1024 Hashing [New Algorithm].

Thank You,
Viz.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: alphaBar on December 16, 2014, 05:37:51 PM
BitShares PTS just performed the first ever hard fork switch from PoW to proof of stake (DPoS). Announcement can be found HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878059.0). The new PTS is the first PoS token with (1) sharedrops in all future Bitshares DACs, (2) a deflationary DPoS protocol, and (3) 100% PoW distribution with no premine. Here are the specs:

* 10 second block confirmation (!)
* Supply scaled to 1,000,000,000 (1 Billion) PTS
* Absolutely no premine, inflation, or dilution of the supply

Coinmarketcap will be updated shortly. Poloniex has resumed trading on the new chain and Bter will transition and resume trading soon. Please add to your list!


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Pastafarian on December 16, 2014, 06:53:56 PM
If you are looking for a quality pos coin, then please join us at Sativacoin (STV). We have taken over as a community and have a new thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=874071 With only 10 million coins and an annual interest of 5% we plan to become the most trusted and valuable mj coin. We are reaching out to many merchants and services and have received a very positive response.

Please do not hesitate to contact me with any questions.

Thanks for your consideration,

Arnel
Pastafarian


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: nanocoind on December 16, 2014, 07:16:24 PM
Nanocoin is a full proof of stake: http://nanocoin.io


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: jawitech on December 17, 2014, 04:17:39 AM
Another one is Magi (XMG). It's a PoW/PoS hybrid coin.

http://www.coinssource.com/coin-magi-a-cpu-miners-dream-proof-of-mining-pos-ii/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735170.0


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: cyberpinoy on December 28, 2014, 06:32:40 AM
Is this list still currently updated? I was looking to get into a LOT more POS coins, preferably ones available to mine on a few of the pools I use like coinking and Eobot. My main question is how many coins can you mint on one computer at the same time?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: psybits on December 28, 2014, 02:06:50 PM
Is this list still currently updated? I was looking to get into a LOT more POS coins, preferably ones available to mine on a few of the pools I use like coinking and Eobot. My main question is how many coins can you mint on one computer at the same time?

You can mine HYPER on Coinking with the multipool. 5% monthly proof of stake interest paid daily, and a very strong community with over 20 developers on various projects. Over 6 months old and unlike most coins value has been steadily growing for months. You can have as many PoS wallets open on your computer minting from different coins at the same time as you like.

HYPER Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624651.0
HYPER Bittrex exchange: https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-HYPER
Wiki: http://hypercrypto.com/wiki
Forum: http://hypercrypto.com/forum
Twitter: http://twitter.com/hypercrypto


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: kamronk on March 07, 2015, 10:03:37 PM
I'm the tech manager for a new crypto building on POS, ours is a variable proof of stake (VPOS) with a daily cap to force big holders to spread amongst multiple wallets and strengthen the network and blockchain.

I am doing some market research on other POS altcoins and came across this thread

Check us out: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=921241.0

Would appreciate any/all criticism, harsh or not Wink

Happy staking guys! Cheers


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: worth on June 08, 2015, 11:06:17 AM
Another example of a proof of stake currency is Bitseeds:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1195172.new#new


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: hcf27 on July 11, 2015, 03:30:47 PM
LiteDoge is fun to stake and cheap at the moment..


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: bit1 on July 11, 2015, 04:35:15 PM
Watch OkCash                                          https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1028368.0


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Krypt0Fr3ak on November 07, 2015, 05:00:41 PM
I dont know if you are aware however a great little alt which gives great returns is called SPROUTS coin (SPRTS)

Sprouts can be trades on the following exchanges :-

Cryptsy    - https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/SPRTS_BTC
Cointopia - https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange?market=SPRTS_BTC

Sprouts PoS Rates.
Code:
10% PoS payable on 5th day. 
2% PoS each day thereafter until stake has minted.
Example
5th day = 10%
6th day = 12%
7th day = 14%

Sprouts BitcoinTalk OP page:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1103868.0

Sprouts website:-
http://sproutcoin.org


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: opmac on March 05, 2016, 06:34:54 PM
Thanks have been looking for something like this. Good place to start. Thanks for the hard work


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: erok on April 16, 2016, 10:44:31 PM
Shadowcash, influxcoin


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: BitcoinNational on April 17, 2016, 10:56:28 AM
the old 'historic' POS coin list
nanocoin? coinshield? i am so behind on defunct POS from 2014

TALK thread has one that is more upto date ;)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864994


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: alenevaa on April 18, 2016, 10:54:44 AM
http://yacoin.org/dist/img/splash.png (https://yacoin.org/)

YACoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=206577.0) - Proof of Stake: 0.05 YAC rewarded per coin*year after 30 days


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: alenevaa on April 18, 2016, 10:55:28 AM
http://ultracointalk.org/rapture333/Ultracoin_logo_tagline.png (http://ultracoin.net)

Ultracoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=727023.0) 5.2% per annum staking reward in future release.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: silversurfer1958 on July 10, 2016, 10:21:43 AM
PoS makes sense if these were investments. How does it help these become currencies? If it simply benefits those who hold coins, it would create artificially scarce environments where the price would go up.

Supposing you've been holding onto your PoS coins for 5 yrs, suddenly you wake up they're worth millions, you might hold on to a few but you're probably going to go on a spending spree and buy that Lamboughini you've always fancied.  Pof stake will encourage spending and saving.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: silversurfer1958 on July 10, 2016, 11:00:34 AM
Here's a proof of stake online wallet for various POS Cryptos I found yesterday, not looked in to it, I set up 2 Factor on it yesterday but today I logged on without having to go through 2FA :-/   
Pretty good idea though to have a site dedicated to storing PoS coins together as an investment.
Obviously. security and future hacks are a concern, but a possibility.

Was thinking would be better though if you could download such a wallet and store it yourself locally, maybe an android wallet on a spare phone you keep permanently logged on via wifi so you can stake.
A project way above my abilities though.

https://poswallet.com/index.php





Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: vella85 on July 13, 2016, 01:23:34 AM
Here's a proof of stake online wallet for various POS Cryptos I found yesterday, not looked in to it, I set up 2 Factor on it yesterday but today I logged on without having to go through 2FA :-/   
Pretty good idea though to have a site dedicated to storing PoS coins together as an investment.
Obviously. security and future hacks are a concern, but a possibility.

Was thinking would be better though if you could download such a wallet and store it yourself locally, maybe an android wallet on a spare phone you keep permanently logged on via wifi so you can stake.
A project way above my abilities though.

https://poswallet.com/index.php





I just came across this POSwallet as well and the cool think I like about this wallet is the faucets. So I claim from the faucets and have the coins sent to the wallet address for staking  ;D I am also now sending all my RDD coins I get from faucets to this wallet for staking. It's all free coins so if something happens like a hacking I'm risk free as I got my coins for free from faucets.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: silversurfer1958 on July 14, 2016, 10:03:26 AM
I like the idea of an online POS wallet, saves people having to keep their various wallets on line, he could even charge a 1% management fee
to pay for the site and improve security.
Problem is, the Private keys are all on his server, so yes, I would tread with caution.
Be nice to see a service like this though, probably half the coins will be dead within a year or two, but might get lucky on a few others.

Isn't there a saying, there's no such thing as a free lunch.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: silversurfer1958 on July 23, 2016, 10:47:06 PM
PoS is supposed to encourage hoarding, but imagine someone who holds POS coins and makes a lot of money, very likely he's going
to cash in some of those coins and buy that Ferrari he's always fancied.
I don't think any Pos Coin encourages hoarding anymore than an ordinary fiat bank savings account does.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: silversurfer1958 on July 24, 2016, 02:14:13 AM
Poswallet details, not very secure at the moment, maybe he'll tighten security up a bit.

http://servicehostnet.com/domain/poswallet.com (http://servicehostnet.com/domain/poswallet.com)


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Digitalbitcoin on August 29, 2016, 03:23:10 AM
Well will glad to know about PoS.

If I have balance in wallet and getting reward everyday for staking coins in wallet. But Now its showing balance zero, In spendable amount and showing stake total amount I have in account.

I want to know how to release staked amount to use it for transactions?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: by rallier on September 04, 2016, 08:02:27 PM
Is list still updated?


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: avariahb on September 05, 2016, 08:19:17 AM
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKlzuavw.png&t=568&c=xzjZveWEqLQJQg
A very good project pos with quintessence

POSP more secured as POS and relates more gains
New generation ecosystem of blockchains "Multi blockchains"
Dapps
Api's

Website URL : http://cryptotokensico.com/ (http://cryptotokensico.com/)
Bitcointalk : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1600250.msg16074174#msg16074174 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1600250.msg16074174#msg16074174)
White paper  : http://cryptotokensico.com/QuintessenceWP.pdf (http://cryptotokensico.com/QuintessenceWP.pdf)


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: pginvest on September 05, 2016, 11:51:28 AM
Is list still updated?
guess not


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: manasd on May 19, 2017, 03:18:18 AM
Admin are you here?
http://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/pos-coins-list/
please add some coins to OP


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: TheCookie on July 13, 2017, 04:21:32 PM
ASAFE2 should be on that list too, or did I get something wrong?
https://allsafetoken.com/


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: Bitsurfer333 on August 24, 2017, 08:40:00 AM
Hello guys, i'm new here and i have a question about a coin that works like NEO with earing GAS if i have enough of it. Are such coins called proof of stake or what ? Please help me i want to buy such coins to earn/collect coins for holding it on my wallet.
Thanks for everyone who can help me.


Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: fanydell on November 05, 2018, 12:13:24 PM
Boys, starting with November 3, 2018, we have a younger, but much more potential currency on the POS list - RainbowCurrency / TWNKL (YEM).

Here are some details:

•   Proof of Stake (PoS) opens, Saturday, November 3, 2018
•   Minimum deposit 100,000 YEM
•   No maximum deposit
•   All deposits before Nov 15, 12pm, U.S. Pacific are qualified for Dec 15 PoS share.
•   First time on Dec 15, the PoS Pool will be shared
•   You can enter Proof of Stake (PoS) any time, but the cut-off is always day 15 of each month for the next month’s share.
•   And only deposits older than 30 days participate
•   You can withdraw anytime, but there are no partial withdrawals
•   You can only deposit one time and withdraw your full deposit (that means if you choose this month to deposit just the minimum 100,000 YEM and a couple days later you decide to add more to it, you would have to withdraw that full 100,000 first, then do a new deposit with a new amount).

PoS Pool Distribution
 Example:
(Remember this is just an easy example to demonstrate the formula used and some potential results, real results will depend on real world usage.)
•   Fees collected til Dec 15: 10 Million YEM
•   PoS deposits total: 100 Million YEM
•   PoS share per YEM deposited: 0.1 YEM
•   In this example a 100,000 YEM deposit would receive 10,000 YEM PoS share.

For more details, those interested can leave me a private message.

 :) :) I wish you a very successful week with maximum profits !!! :) :)


 



Title: Re: Proof of Stake Coin List
Post by: vella85 on November 12, 2018, 10:09:27 PM
I recently came across this new project, GlacierPlatform which is a masternode/PoS project. I have been staking this coin for a few days now and so far its been doing very good with an average of 10+ stakes daily with just a couple thousand coins. The only thing is that its not listed on an exchange yet and can only be bought in presale on their discord. Feel free to check it out and like always be sure to DYOR.

Discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/u4h9jUA

ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5061879.0