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Always complaining about the price of a token for example after the ICO
Why not to create a community behind the scene of almost every holder in it and then set one price after the ICO?

Simply don't invest to ICOs or don't invest to cryptocurrency. There's no cure for people who keep on complaining with something that they mistakenly came in and are now regretting their actions.

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You're already in a community.

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Crypto's aren't that way.

There is a lot of great ICOs but token purchasers don't have good knowledge of what is making the price on the market

I think panic investors only fearly asking this question. But right investors are know the potential of project so worthy project only successfully won the crypto platform. This year many tokens are reach the good position in crypto market and few projects are reach the worst position.

This is bullshit my friend. This is not working like this. You have to be strong enough to admit your mistakes. Better analyze, adhere to your gameplan. Who's interested in ICO did you read this article - https://medium.com/@kelvinchain/the-post-quantum-era-of-blockchain-todays-solutions-for-the-world-of-tomorrow-16bdd970f49a (https://medium.com/@kelvinchain/the-post-quantum-era-of-blockchain-todays-solutions-for-the-world-of-tomorrow-16bdd970f49a) ?? ???

Hoping that) I am holding some underestimated tokens now
but with a good potential

interesting :o

Set one price after the ICO? Then its not basically can be called a healthy market after all and besides you cant force up a certain trader or investor on which price he would like sell out his tokens. We do always be concern or vary on profitability therefore we wont need a community to have the same aims. Its an impossible thing to have that kind of movement.
We would see prices sets on random therefore as a trader you should know how to utilize it.

You're right

I know one project with potentially big and strong community
Cryptoindex - the new crypto Dow Jones
I think it will change a little the habits of crypto trading
Don't you think?

The market will definitely change soon!

That's not the traditional model, but I think Havven is doing a great job so far

Not sure it's quite possible to avoid volatility, but there should be some ways to decrease it. I guess we'll see such a projects in the nearest future

So why not just say "how to be a strong pumping community"? Because manipulation of the price by a group for its benefits could be defined as a pumping group.

Dont mix things up please. Dont pump the price, let the ICO be great by itself. Market manipulation shall not be defined as a good thing.

Buying from ICO became an ill investment nowadays. Prices go below ICO prices very fast when listing in exchange. Buying the dip is more profitable.

what do you think about Tether?

That is actually a price manipulation, if your project is really good let that technology be discovered by an investors. It's normal for a price to dump especially if it's just a shicoin, a group like this can become a pumping group which is really bad especially when you left behind so better to invest on a great ICO.

Let's say that you are correct with that but not all of them are great, they are great in the first place because they are in pre-sale phase.

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But see to it some of them after the crowd sale / ICO, others aren't delivering the promise that they have given to the investors. And what they all do is to make the investors profit from their investments and doesn't really think of what they proposed. I almost forgot that the developers first gets benefit.

Yes, I think that with time people will change a little their attitude
Projects like the one I have mentioned-cryptoindex, will definitely play its role

I hope so, cryptoindex and many new projects have a hard time because of the downtrend of BTC, but they will success

I think this only happens because of the developers' fault, because if everyone fought to list in a decent exchange but not they do not want to spend the revenue to list the token there everyone is apprehensive without having where to sell and has no value after the oic serious tokens sempe list in decent exchanges

The idea is not bad, but there will always be one who has own opinion and sight at things. These are the laws of living nature. In a stable system there must be balance!

They complained because the price after listing was lower than the price they bought ICO. So they continue to complain because that's their fault. There is no way to prevent such an investment in ICO

i m sure if that can be possible because you may have some people who may go against the community so hardly bide with other members.

Even if you create a community, there will always be a person who won't look at the endless growth. In the end, he will sell and earn. If you have invested $ 500 dollars, you can wait for 10x growth. If you have $ 1 million invested, you will be enough for a few percent

All projects can not grow right after the ICO. Just now there are a huge number of scam projects. By entering projects, you can always lose your investment.

You got the idea, yes of course, building the community is utmost important in order to support the strong value of a certain token or coin, this means the market movements and trading volumes will be higher., and the demands will follow in it. Lets take an example of bitcoin, it was years to count that many recognized in it, and now it is widely accepted, same with ICO, there is no instant success, all we need it to be educated, and dont be too rush.

how are you going to control it? If you set a stable price for ico - this will not be a typical market. Such markets do not attract traders and investors, as they don't have the volatility.

i know some people built a community or a group and member pay their ETH or BTC to let leader of group to manipulate. Some unknown coins with smaller volume can be manipulated easily.

yes, coins are dying not because of BTC. The main reason is project sucks and investors don’t buy it.

Pushing the price up? I can imagine how much million dollars you will burn for just pushing the price $50 above the current rate, that's what it needed when the market capitalization is just
too big for a community to manipulate the price, the easiest way is to spread a good news, pumping just really require big resources.

If the project develops well, why shouldn't people use the product? And why shouldn't this lead to a rise in price? It is better to have a good project/product that dictates value rather than pumping the token/coin.

This scenario strong community is whales and  government because all the altcoins are depends on Bitcoin but major role of push the market is Legalization of Cryptocurrency and investors. Many scam projects are stuck the price up so both positive and negative thoughts are spread in the world. We could invest on long term investment we are safe in future journey.

I absolutely agree with you!
I see so many people whinging about low price, but they don't even bother to show their support to the project after bounty campaign ends. No one votes for listings if it doesn't give any tokens, no one likes and reposts in social media... Then what are you all waiting for? Community is the main part of every project. Stop being a bounty-whore, supporting every single project until it pays you for your support. It won't make you rich.
Supporting only those projects you really believe in (even if it's free) is the right thing to do.

I think this community can be very strong to make ico and make the price go up, by making the residents in this community forum unite and buy the coin is definitely its price will be very expensive quickly. in cryptocurrency no one can not, all possibilities can happen.

Exactly, even if you have a strong community investors will still find its way to get out on that project. If the ICO is really good, even the hunters dump their holdings for sure it will still pump. Don't make a strong community, instead focus on your business, focus on the technology and for sure more investors will come if they see that project working well.

It's not only about using the product, but just about showing your support to the team and promoting the project among the whole cryptocommunity, I mean telling your friends about it or at leasts creating posts here (but no shilling!).
For example, many projects offer corporate solutions and I can't use them even if I find their product interesting, it's not created for a simple user.

A significant amount of the people that invest in cryptocurrencies invest in it not only for the money but because of their personal political stance and most of them believe in the free markets and hate price controls, which is what you are suggesting.

There are market makers or those who hold big amounts of coins so that the volume is still there and they can attract more people to trade the coin but regarding setting one price, it is not possible because there are always people who would buy and sell that's why the price moves so what you want is not possible. For those who are complaining about the price, they should know ahead of time about that possibility and if they wanted the price to be higher then they should buy more so that price would go up.

So you wanted a community that will manipulate the price? That's not how it works unless you have a lot of money then you can predict what will happen. Yes, you are already in a community and investing in ICO actually have high risk especially for those with underdevelopment project or started in scratch. All you have to do is to make sure that you choose a project that you think will soar in a long run.

If you want the price to be set then how could you possibly earn with your invested capital? Every ICO has now a telegram and the center communication of every community then It is natural for the investors to complain if the ICOs become cheap after token unlock because everyone expects to earn but in reality their investments is a loss. Try to invest in a losing ICO and see if you will be disappoint or not.

This is not something that can be controlled unless you are a VERY BIG GROUP OF PEOPLE. Yes, VERY BIG. Whales can do such thing because, even if they are few of them. They got TONS of VOLUME worth Thousands of HOLDERS. This is a great idea but a good team, project development and customer service is always the answer to token price. AND ALSO, how the market economy goes :)

People want to invest in a market that is extremely volatile and earn money but they do not want to have any possibility of losing money, and as we know that does not make sense, you either accept the risks or grab your money and go home because this market is never going to behave like that.

Hey SMFUS,

In my mind, the single best way to promote strong communities within the cryptosphere and to increase of the value of a project is to just use the product as it is intended to be used. Instead of a community of people who hold onto coins and hope they increase in value, a community who uses the coin for its intended purpose is more likely to see its value rise.

Best,
CafeCoin
https://cafe-coin.com/

A community with tye aim to help each other is a great plan. Specially with if all understands the goal that needs to be set. However such idea is difficult to do with a nonprofit organization. It is not as simple as hey buy now and sell later. You have to fet a good number of investor with at least 40 percent sharing the same goals.

we cannot unite the same thoughts to increase prices even though through large communities, because alt coins cannot be set with little funds.

is all about the money that a community can push back price goes up or not, if you have less money than the whales, community function just for spread out news like social media campaign

I agree with you,
because almost all ICOs after being registered in the market experienced a very large decline so it seems that investors' confidence began to decrease to invest in the ICO.

How can we affect the price of the tokens, even if this is an over-the-top project. We need to influence the overall situation on the market, so that the price of the tokens was also high, like the price of other coins.

I'm sure there is a group of wealthy people who, through their investments, carry out certain manipulations with the most popular cryptocurrency in order to get even more profits. But the whole community can not get big profits, so it's impossible.

IMHO great projects with real usage hold their price even on the bear market. The problem that most of ICO, in reality, have no real usage and suitable only for flipping.

Not really.. If you go look at coinmarketcap, you'll see almost every coin going down when we're in a bear market. As for the original topic, the best way as a community to make the price go up is to just hold. Simply don't sell your coins and the price won't go down. It will go up since there is demand but no one is selling. It's that or try and get Bitcoin all over the news again for different things. Whenever the mainstream news covers it, it usually makes the price jump up quite a bit. But, that usually only happens when we hit all time highs.

I don't think that's either possible or desirable. The key I think is to take great care over choosing an ICO. The sad fact is that most of them drop after hitting the markets. But if you can find a really great project, and it sells out quickly at ICO, then there is a good chance that demand will outstrip supply - which in turn should lead to natural price increases once it hits the markets. Natural is I think far better than forced, and much more sustainable in the longer term.

Some ICO's counteract this by incentivizing holders with monthly or quarterly rewards or a buy back scheme that helps stabilize the price