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Title: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: miragecash on February 13, 2014, 05:11:48 PM
OK I want to accept bitcoins for my business plus buy and sell a huge number of bitcoins, but I cannot because;

1. Coinbase - cannot get verified. Their auto verifier doesn't work and they won't answer my emails. They have an auto email answering where based on key words in your request, it emails you back. I keep getting the exact same email back. Zero phone number, zero customer service.

2. Campbx - 24 hours and nobody answered my email. No phone number. No one online for live chat during normal business hours. Fail.

3. Localbitcoins - Guys get arrested in Florida for some BS law that says you cannot buy more than $300 in bitcoins per year anonymously with cash. WTF?!

4. Bitpay - a merchant service that lets you clear your bitcoins into USD, but cannot buy and sell bitcoins for speculation.

5. Bitsimple - no email reply in 24 hours, plus here's the real kicker, their phone number has been "disconnected or busy". Paying money to a company with a disconnected phone number? Yeah, right.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
 :)


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: Sonny on February 13, 2014, 05:20:35 PM
What about bitstamp? Have you tried it?


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: camosoul on February 13, 2014, 05:22:35 PM
Bitstamp is the exchange that coinbase uses, is it not? Why not go straight to the source?

Coinbase's autoverifier doesn't work with everything, and this is well known and they even tell you so. You can do the slow-ish deposit/withdraw method just like most other bank account linking services do. I've done it both ways...

I use bitpay's plugin on my own website. I don't convert it to USD, just send the BTC to my wallet...

It looks like you need to do more research, really... This information isn't hard to find. I get the feeling you're not really trying...

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Localbitcoins - Guys get arrested in Florida for some BS law that says you cannot buy more than $300 in bitcoins per year anonymously with cash. WTF?!

I'd like to know more about this... I'm in Florida.


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: debuni on February 13, 2014, 05:25:59 PM
Or you could just integrate /hire some one to / blockchain API into your shopping card.

If you need to display USD <> BTC value before that, there are a lot of tickers about that.


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: Sonny on February 13, 2014, 05:30:41 PM
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Localbitcoins - Guys get arrested in Florida for some BS law that says you cannot buy more than $300 in bitcoins per year anonymously with cash. WTF?!

I'd like to know more about this... I'm in Florida.

Just did a google search for you, and found the following:
http://www.coindesk.com/localbitcoins-users-criminal-charges-florida/
http://www.businessinsider.com/localbitcoinscom-targeted-by-feds-2014-2
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=455979.0


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: miragecash on February 14, 2014, 06:53:13 AM
Bitstamp and Mt Gox are not allowing withdrawals. Possible liquidity problems? Not very confidence inspiring.

Sheesh, is it THAT HARD to buy bitcoins? No wonder 80% of bitcoins are held by a few early miners! They can't sell their dadgum bitcoins and I can't buy them!

Ugh.... ???

Any other ideas? How can I buy and sell bitcoins without being GOXed in the Bithole by exchanges that don't care about their customers enough to answer the phone nor reply to emails after 48 HOURS?

Thanks,
 :)


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: Sonny on February 14, 2014, 07:18:16 AM
Bitstamp and Mt Gox are not allowing withdrawals.

Please refer to the following two blog entries by Gavin for details.
https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=418 and https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=422



Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: miragecash on February 14, 2014, 07:58:17 AM
Finally, a bitcoin exchange answered my questions. Vinny K at Camp Bx picked up and answered my questions. I will use CampBx and not use Coinbase even though I registered with Coinbase because they don't care enough about their customers to answer the phone. Coinbase never answered my emails after 48 hours and they don't have a phone nor live chat. Coinbase's auto verification process also doesn't work.

CampBx also has reasonable fees, too.

Thanks for all your suggestions, guys.

 :D


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: Sonny on February 15, 2014, 06:45:47 AM
Finally, a bitcoin exchange answered my questions. Vinny K at Camp Bx picked up and answered my questions. I will use CampBx and not use Coinbase even though I registered with Coinbase because they don't care enough about their customers to answer the phone. Coinbase never answered my emails after 48 hours and they don't have a phone nor live chat. Coinbase's auto verification process also doesn't work.

CampBx also has reasonable fees, too.

Thanks for all your suggestions, guys.

 :D

Just a friendly reminder, don't forget to enable 2FA for better security. :)


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: AndrewGucci on February 15, 2014, 08:37:57 AM
Bitstamp has enabled withdrawals, so everything ok with them, mtgox is just stealing money, do not use that site.


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: Sonny on February 15, 2014, 10:53:54 AM
mtgox is just stealing money, do not use that site.

Exactly.
Stay away from mtgox, at all cost :)


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: barefoot on February 15, 2014, 11:43:24 AM
they haven't stole MY money yet...
why do you think MtGox is stealing money?


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: Sonny on February 15, 2014, 01:29:50 PM
they haven't stole MY money yet...
why do you think MtGox is stealing money?

People have been waiting for months for their USD withdrawals...
And now, mtgox even stopped btc withdrawals....


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: aswritt on February 15, 2014, 01:46:54 PM
mtgox is just stealing money, do not use that site.

Exactly.
Stay away from mtgox, at all cost :)



Exactly.
Stay away from mtgox, at all cost :)
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I was just going to register there... looked to complicated...   but is it still the best or biggest site?

Is it really stealing??


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: Sonny on February 15, 2014, 03:56:53 PM
I was just going to register there... looked to complicated...   but is it still the best or biggest site?

Is it really stealing??

If you wander around this forum, you can see thousands of posts (if not more) complaining mtgox, and telling people to stay away from it...

mtgox maybe was the biggest exchange 2 years ago (no longer now), but it has never been the best exchange lol.


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: bluemist on February 15, 2014, 05:46:47 PM
Mtgox used to be usable, but it's totally fallen apart recently. It's a huge risk to buy there as you may never be able to withdraw anything... that's why their prices are so low at the moment. Bitstamp and localbitcoins have always worked well for me.


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on February 15, 2014, 05:51:49 PM
5. Bitsimple - no email reply in 24 hours, plus here's the real kicker, their phone number has been "disconnected or busy". Paying money to a company with a disconnected phone number? Yeah, right.

Can't help you if you dial the wrong phone number.   The phone number on the website has never been disconnected or busy.  The site offers secure (SSL protected) chat for customers so if you have specific questions the fastest response is to create an account and click on help at the bottom of any page.


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: Pordik on February 15, 2014, 07:41:30 PM
Try with Bitstamp, is good for You


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: guybrushthreepwood on February 15, 2014, 08:06:05 PM
mtgox is just stealing money, do not use that site.

Exactly.
Stay away from mtgox, at all cost :)



Exactly.
Stay away from mtgox, at all cost :)

I was just going to register there... looked to complicated...   but is it still the best or biggest site?

Is it really stealing??

[/quote]

It's one of the worst exchanges. I don't think it's stealing but people get their money stuck or tied up there. It also seems possible that they might've lost some peoples coins but this is unconfirmed and is just speculation at this point.


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: hilariousandco on February 15, 2014, 08:08:09 PM
I was just going to register there... looked to complicated...   but is it still the best or biggest site?

Is it really stealing??


They just run an all-round shoddy service. Have a look around this forum. You wont see one positive thing said about it.


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: MakeBelieve on February 15, 2014, 08:10:47 PM
There is no postitive news about mt gox especially recently but I use bitstamp as its very easy  to use.


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: fatguyyyyy on February 16, 2014, 12:13:02 AM
Im not sure, but the best bet is localbitcoins despite the arrest.


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: whitelightningmining on February 16, 2014, 09:26:34 AM
Try Virwox


Title: Re: Cannot buy and sell Bitcoin. How to do this?
Post by: Sonny on February 16, 2014, 05:00:57 PM
Try Virwox

I seldom see someone suggesting Virwox :P
IMHO, the fee there is pretty bad.
The only good thing about Virwox is that, you can buy bitcoin with paypal (with terrible fee)...