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Title: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: jamesc760 on February 15, 2014, 02:44:58 PM for posterity and service to the members, I am copying and pasteing the back and forth with AvalonShenzhen about my attempt at getting refund from him:
Quote from: AvalonShenzhen on Today at 07:21:59 AM Quote from: jamesc760 on Today at 07:20:06 AM AvalonShenzhen, I want my refund now. I know you are online quite often because you've been deleting my post about order cancellation and refund request as soon as I post them. I will keep posting until you fully refund me. James Hello Jamesc760, We are not online 24/24 so sorry. Don't spam the forum or indeed we will clean it up. Why do you want a refund. Don't buy one unit and after 1 hours ask a refund... I'd like a refund to pay for extra medication my mother needs. She's been in nursing home and took a bad fall. Please honor my request for refund now. Thank you, James Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: jamesc760 on February 15, 2014, 02:45:51 PM Reserved.
Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: jamesc760 on February 15, 2014, 02:46:04 PM Reserved.
Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: jamesc760 on February 15, 2014, 02:58:12 PM I will modify, remove, or delete this thread IF I successfully receive full refund amount of 1.1 btc.
I placed an order for 1 Avalon Gen2 215Ghs unit, groubuy batch #4, from AvalonShenzhen yesterday (Friday, February 14th,2014) morning. By the end of day, I got a bad news from my mother, she literally fell and broke her wrist. I will be taking care of her and now need extra money, so I asked for refund via pm from AvalonShenzhen right away. Having heard nothing from him, I email him that evening. No response at all. So, I post him a message on his groupbuy thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=424621.new#new The thread is moderated, meaning AvalonShenzhen can delete any posts he doesn't like. He deletes my message requesting order cancellation and refund. How odd. So, I send him another pm and email. Nothing. I post a new message on the thread, and that's the response I got in the post #1. Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: jamesc760 on February 15, 2014, 03:03:45 PM I just noticed that he's been busy deleting ALL my posts on the thread:
Bitcoin Forum Guest Deleted Post « Sent to: jamesc760 on: Today at 07:53:26 AM » Reply with quoteReply with quote Remove this messageDelete A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote Does anyone know a good setup guide for these machines? Thanks in prior, James Report To Admin Bitcoin Forum Guest Deleted Post « Sent to: jamesc760 on: Today at 07:54:06 AM » Reply with quoteReply with quote Remove this messageDelete A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote Sent you an email. Thank you! James Report To Admin Bitcoin Forum Guest Deleted Post « Sent to: jamesc760 on: Today at 07:54:15 AM » Reply with quoteReply with quote Remove this messageDelete A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote AvalonShenzhen, I want my refund now. I know you are online quite often because you've been deleting my post about order cancellation and refund request as soon as I post them. I will keep posting until you fully refund me. James Report To Admin Bitcoin Forum Guest Deleted Post « Sent to: jamesc760 on: Today at 07:54:20 AM » Reply with quoteReply with quote Remove this messageDelete A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote Quote from: AvalonShenzhen on Today at 07:21:59 AM Quote from: jamesc760 on Today at 07:20:06 AM AvalonShenzhen, I want my refund now. I know you are online quite often because you've been deleting my post about order cancellation and refund request as soon as I post them. I will keep posting until you fully refund me. James Hello Jamesc760, We are not online 24/24 so sorry. Don't spam the forum or indeed we will clean it up. Why do you want a refund. Don't buy one unit and after 1 hours ask a refund... I'd like a refund to pay for extra medication my mother needs. She's been in nursing home and took a bad fall. Please honor my request for refund now. Thank you, James Report To Admin Bitcoin Forum Guest Deleted Post « Sent to: jamesc760 on: Today at 07:56:14 AM » Reply with quoteReply with quote Remove this messageDelete A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote Payment sent for 1 unit: tx id 0f04772fbe9aa35e082aa226c533ffd2898b46640f5fb8543e0fbc3d49480cd0 Thanks! James Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: aurel57 on February 15, 2014, 03:04:56 PM James I don't even see the GB listed anymore? I think he has deleted all the posts? Good luck
Edit: thread is still there but it's on the second page now since he has deleted today's post I guess? Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: Kapz786 on February 15, 2014, 03:06:00 PM As long as he delivers the goods he has fulfilled his promise Looks like he is a scammer Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: jamesc760 on February 15, 2014, 03:12:18 PM He's trying to erase me from his history!
Sorry dude, I have them all saved and posted. I know I've been had and will never see my 1.1 btc. It's not a huge amount, sure it would be a lot easier if I had it. If I can stop others from giving him any more bitcoins, I will try to bump this thread. AvalonShenzhen is a SCAMMER! Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: aurel57 on February 15, 2014, 03:18:36 PM James he is deleting all post as we speak!
Edit: I reported to a mod asking to put a halt to the deleting of the thread as it's a scammer Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: jamesc760 on February 15, 2014, 03:20:09 PM I understand this is not kmart. What's so difficult about instantly refunding customers? I have provided tx id, amount, my wallet address, all confirmed. You mean, nothing happens in your life and it's smooth sailing all the way? Sorry but I have a life, family and obligations. I'd like to get new machine and thought I had enough in extra. Well, accidents happen. How do you account for that?
Like I stated previously, I can afford to lose 1.1 btc at this point in my life. Maybe I should just shut my mouth and disappear? AvalonShenzhen acts like a scammer to me. Until he can prove he's not, I will be posting here. Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: philipma1957 on February 15, 2014, 03:20:42 PM He's trying to erase me from his history! Sorry dude, I have them all saved and posted. I know I've been had and will never see my 1.1 btc. It's not a huge amount, sure it would be a lot easier if I had it. If I can stop others from giving him any more bitcoins, I will try to bump this thread. AvalonShenzhen is a SCAMMER! go back onto his thread and tell him you were wrong. tell him you don't need a refund you will take delivery of the gear. call yourself a stupid westerner that did not understand his culture and ask forgiveness. In a world that you paid in btc your rights are so hard to in-force your best bet it to politely ask for forgiveness. And a tracking number (lol) Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: philipma1957 on February 15, 2014, 03:21:36 PM I understand this is not kmart. What's so difficult about instantly refunding customers? I have provided tx id, amount, my wallet address, all confirmed. You mean, nothing happens in your life and it's smooth sailing all the way? Sorry but I have a life, family and obligations. I'd like to get new machine and thought I had enough in extra. Well, accidents happen. How do you account for that? Like I stated previously, I can afford to lose 1.1 btc at this point in my life. Maybe I should just shut my mouth and disappear? AvalonShenzhen acts like a scammer to me. Until he can prove he's not, I will be posting here. Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: studio1one on February 15, 2014, 03:22:22 PM can't go on his thread because it seems he deleted it.
Oh dear. Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: jamesc760 on February 15, 2014, 03:22:32 PM James he is deleting all post as we speak! He's definitely trying to delete all his tracks, like all thieves try to do. Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: jamesc760 on February 15, 2014, 03:23:44 PM I can still see the very first post he made:
Author Topic: [IN STOCK][NEW PRICE] BATCH4 - 25 Avalon 215GH/s BTC1.10 - SHIPPING FEB 17TH (Read 7854 times) This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. AvalonShenzhen Newbie * Activity: 28 View Profile Personal Message (Offline) Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0) Ignore [IN STOCK][NEW PRICE] BATCH4 - 25 Avalon 215GH/s BTC1.10 - SHIPPING FEB 17TH January 20, 2014, 11:29:56 AM #1 BATCH4 OF AROUND 25 MINERS - SHIPPING SCHEDULED MONDAY 17th FEB OPEN ORDERS - SELLING FAST - BTC PAYMENT - 5% DISCOUNT IF VALUE OF ORDER > 5 BTC. AVALON SHENZEN MINER AVALON 2nd Gen 55NM CHIPS Hash rate at 1400 Mhz : 215GH/S +-10% Power consummation : +-920W Hash rate at 1500 Mhz (OC) : 230GH/S +-10% Power consummation : +-1000W CASE SIZE: 47*35.5*16cm Standalone machine - FIRMWARE 20131229 with cgminer 3.9.0 ETHERNET/WIFI card included POWER: ! SOLD WITHOUT PSU ! You need to buy at least 2 X 600 Watts. 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Please notice that we don't work with escrow but we can arrange a local pickup in Shenzen. HOW TO PURCHASE 1) Calculate the amount of your order with the prices displayed on this post. Apply 5% discount if your order > 5BTC Send your payment to the following address : 1Mzyo7PYfsxNLyNWhnznUYfiX1Kf6LFqkh 2) Send an email to AvalonShenzhen@safe-mail.net with : - The bitcoin address used for your payment - The transaction ID of your payment - Your order - How many unit of each - Your email for tracking number - Your name and full address + phone number for DHL - The value that you want on the invoice (custom's declaration) 3) Please make a post in this topic with your transaction ID to confirm your order. Like this we have also your nickname on Bitcointalk if we need to contact you and we will use this nickname to add you in our order list. 4) We'll send you the price and the BTC address/paypal address (each order will have a different BTC address for easier tracking) 5) You have to send the payment to the BTC address provided/paypal address to confirm your order 6) We'll update this topic 1 or 2 times per day with the confirmed orders - check it to know the status of your unit. 7) Tracking numbers will be sent by email. Cool Please post your feedback (positive or negative) in this topic when you have your unit! 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They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here. southerngentuk Sr. Member **** Activity: 280 View Profile Personal Message (Offline) Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0) Ignore Re: [NOT YET OPEN]Avalon Miner 200GH/s BTC 1.5/1.6 January 20, 2014, 04:47:18 PM #2 Escrow ? ? ? Report to moderator File your FTC Complaint against BFL today >>>>>>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=319522.msg3419162#msg3419162 mvalley Member ** Activity: 62 View Profile Personal Message (Offline) Trust: 0: -0 / +1(1) Ignore Re: [NOT YET OPEN]Avalon Miner 200GH/s BTC 1.5/1.6 January 20, 2014, 07:23:36 PM #3 I will be one of the first to order if you allow paypal. Report to moderator BuildTheFuture Member ** Activity: 77 View Profile Personal Message (Offline) Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0) Ignore Re: [NOT YET OPEN]Avalon Miner 200GH/s BTC 1.5/1.6 January 22, 2014, 05:11:42 PM #4 So these are sold without PSU - how many PSUs, and what wattage and connector types are required? Report to moderator r7970 Jr. Member * Activity: 41 View Profile Personal Message (Offline) Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0) Ignore Re: [HOT][GROUP BUY WORLDWIDE] Avalon Miner 215GH/s BTC1.35 QUICK SHIPPING February 08, 2014, 10:27:49 AM #5 TXID: c56557cda72915c695190501940ddf35f878a362a505b418c454c252e0b366ce Thanks. Report to moderator AvalonShenzhen Newbie * Activity: 28 View Profile Personal Message (Offline) Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0) Ignore Re: [HOT][WORLDWIDE] BATCH3 - 35X Avalon Miner 215GH/s BTC1.35 SHIPPING FEB 14TH February 09, 2014, 12:01:36 PM #6 Quote from: serpiente12 on February 09, 2014, 11:46:20 AM So i really want to order and get it shipped now in 12th February is this stil possible? i have required the bitcoins needed but im not so used to all this so i just need a confirmation....i am buying a mining rig of 200GH/S + ? And all i need for it to work is PSU and then its plug n play? Hello Serpiente12, Thank you for your interest. First of all, it will be shipped friday 14Th feb and not 12th, just to be sure you know it. It as a mining rig of at least 215GH/S but look on the post of earlier customers, most of the time it is around 220GH/S. The full miner is a stand alone miner. So yes, you need to install 2PSU (check first post to have tech. specifications) in the miner and connect it to internet. After that, you just have to enter the info about your pool to start mining. If you have any difficulties, we can give you support via teamviewer but it is very simple. Regards, Report to moderator blackheart13 Jr. Member * Online Online Activity: 37 View Profile Personal Message (Online) Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0) Ignore Re: [HOT][WORLDWIDE] BATCH3 - 35X Avalon Miner 215GH/s BTC1.35 SHIPPING FEB 14TH February 09, 2014, 02:16:45 PM #7 Payment has been sent for 1. Email sent providing the shipping address & email for tracking info. It includes my bitcointalk id: blackheart13 Thanks - looking forward to receiving this unit & making additional purchases. Will keep this post updated on receipt of tracking information and also about the unit after it arrives. Report to moderator Niggle Newbie * Activity: 9 View Profile Personal Message (Offline) Trust: 0: -0 / +0(0) Ignore Re: [IN STOCK][NEW PRICE] BATCH3 - 31X Avalon 215GH/s BTC1.10 - SHIPPING FEB 14TH February 12, 2014, 12:58:20 AM #8 Sorry. I should've read it more closely. It says in the description that each unit requires 2 power supplies. Can I use 1 large/powerful power supply? Can the PSU or PSU's be mounted inside the case like the old avalon units? Report to moderator Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: philipma1957 on February 15, 2014, 03:26:47 PM looks like you are correct. I will delete my posts in this thread
Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: jamesc760 on February 15, 2014, 03:27:46 PM hey, phil, would you be able to confirm that you, or someone you know, have received a unit from him? if so, I am willing to delete my posts and do as you suggest. Thanks!
James Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: aurel57 on February 15, 2014, 03:29:36 PM hey, phil, would you be able to confirm that you, or someone you know, have received a unit from him? if so, I am willing to delete my posts and do as you suggest. Thanks! James this GB stunk from day one and I have PM from him and his fake buyers from 1st batch. This was a scam from the start. Sorry for yours and the others loss.James Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: miaviator on February 15, 2014, 03:31:23 PM No offense he doesn't really have to refund you this isn't Kmart you can't change your mind and expect an instant refund. As long as he delivers the goods he has fulfilled his promise https://i.imgur.com/8iDpoAB.png I doubt there will be a delivery.. Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: jamesc760 on February 15, 2014, 03:31:46 PM Well, it didn't take long.
AvalonShenzhen has deleted all posts and disappeared. Good riddance. Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: zebtw on February 15, 2014, 03:45:01 PM Yeah and all emails bounce email address was also deleted.
Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: drof69 on February 15, 2014, 04:07:07 PM Yeah, fuck. This is a large scam. Did he not have confirmed previous sales? Let me see if I can contact some friends to track him down and get some legal action against him.
Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: tarmi on February 15, 2014, 04:08:18 PM he did.
some senior members confirmed that they recieved their orders in batch #1 Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: Xer0 on February 15, 2014, 05:05:56 PM he did. he sure just drop-shipeed, but maybe left some traces theresome senior members confirmed that they recieved their orders in batch #1 Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: tarmi on February 15, 2014, 05:14:40 PM checking all nicknames from batch #1 that supposedly received their miners.
so far not looking good. they are all newbies, with 0 post. AlfonsoD joehash ... Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: aurel57 on February 15, 2014, 05:15:23 PM he did. the only ones that confirmed they received anything was 3 newbies that all had join dates on the forum of January 22 and 23. Every time someone posted questioning the GB the post got deleted.some senior members confirmed that they recieved their orders in batch #1 Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: aurel57 on February 15, 2014, 05:17:20 PM checking all nicknames from batch #1 that supposedly received their miners. Yes their only post was on this GB. I did PM both trying get as much information from them and the OP as this thing smelled of a scam from the start.so far not looking good. they are all newbies, with 0 post. AlfonsoD joehash ... Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: mine2slow on February 15, 2014, 05:18:06 PM the BTC is still at the deposit address
https://blockchain.info/address/1Mzyo7PYfsxNLyNWhnznUYfiX1Kf6LFqkh Summary Address 1Mzyo7PYfsxNLyNWhnznUYfiX1Kf6LFqkh Hash 160 e659a2b53fec5c8864213fe9af39b7aad6c0b825 Transactions No. Transactions 45 Total Received 84.8954 BTC Final Balance 83.7954 BTC Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: tarmi on February 15, 2014, 05:21:29 PM OK, so question arises.
Why the fuck did mods allow this scam to last so long? 3 weeks on bitcointalk and no scam thread or anything? they left AvalonShenzen with self-moderated thread. they left him with a self moderated group buy thread for 3 weeks. he managed to scam 80 btc, that is a lot of money. Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: aurel57 on February 15, 2014, 05:26:21 PM Bitcoin Forum
Guest Deleted Post « Sent to: aurel57 on: February 12, 2014, 06:42:07 AM » Reply with quote Delete A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote Quote from: robbcarpdm on February 12, 2014, 12:59:11 AM Would someone besides a newbie post pictures of the insides of their boxes? Sorry but no pictures besides vendor....very odd for such a thread Thank you More than that... Batch 1 Had 5 buyers.. Which 3 are newbies all with join dates of the 22nd or 23rd and other 2 I can not find. Then batch 2 search their names... Can not find any of them and there is no post by any of them. Batch one buyer act like they got their miner in hand within 3 days and batch two just got tracking numbers emailed to them but not one of them posted a thing? Batch 3 are the suckers that will loose their BTC. I say this is more than just "very odd" Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: tarmi on February 15, 2014, 05:30:32 PM More than that... Batch 1 Had 5 buyers.. Which 3 are newbies all with join dates of the 22nd or 23rd and other 2 I can not find. Then batch 2 search their names... Can not find any of them and there is no post by any of them. Batch one buyer act like they got their miner in hand within 3 days and batch two just got tracking numbers emailed to them but not one of them posted a thing? Batch 3 are the suckers that will loose their BTC. I say this is more than just "very odd" yes, 2 members from batch #1 : Bitdreamer & Jicoli dont even exist. how is that possible? I guess he just made up those list to make an impression that others are ordering... Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: aurel57 on February 15, 2014, 05:33:54 PM I tried asking and my post was deleted as was another one. I started PM some members and it seemed as thou a lot of the buyers were newbies and was afraid to PM to many of them as I thought he may have been doing some of that himself with more fake ID's trying to make the GB look legit.
Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: drof69 on February 15, 2014, 06:13:02 PM I tried asking and my post was deleted as was another one. I started PM some members and it seemed as thou a lot of the buyers were newbies and was afraid to PM to many of them as I thought he may have been doing some of that himself with more fake ID's trying to make the GB look legit. He almost got me. I was looking at the prices of these on ebay and got the old "if it's too good to be true, it's probably is" feeling. 300% profit that he was losing selling on here than ebay. Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: Maxximus007 on February 15, 2014, 06:17:40 PM Damn... Luckily I waited with the second order on a tracking number.. But still hate lo loose my 1.1 BTC!!!
Why was this so long here, although there were many newbie orders.. (including me now, I know...) Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: Airwhale on February 15, 2014, 06:32:13 PM I got scammed also. Sigh. =( 1.1 BTC.
Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: falseflag on February 15, 2014, 06:48:04 PM hello guys,
i was the first of batch 4 list..... i send him 1.1 btc too ........fuck off if he ripped me/us off. my adress: 183fFyZcnNcgMncadVW3GKXbp7XVaY8SZk transaction id blockchain: c732696f4d008afb228f2532db39efd348a0f8dd67ba28f8247a4b2751299b7a it would be ineresting for all if ANY ONE received a functional miner from avalonshenzen with picture ......?(i dont think so , but there are still wonders outside ) regards falseflag Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen - SCAM Post by: Maxximus007 on February 15, 2014, 07:18:30 PM I'm afraid not.. This was a pretty well set up scam! Not for us of course... I personally thought, well, third/fourth bach, quick response, this is a sound deal..
Have to get more careful in the future, waiting for some more evidence that vendors actually exist.. Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: falseflag on February 15, 2014, 07:27:54 PM hello,
IF- al lot of people know it was a scam-so my simple question ,why the hell was this thread 2 or 3 weeks open and he was be able to ripp of so many people? why he was be able to moderate his thread and delete what he want - to prevent that some call him a scam in this thread? i dont cry because of the 1.1 btc.... its bad and hard and i learned from it -but no one stops him and his thread instead of knowing ,that it is a scam? Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: KWH on February 15, 2014, 07:29:20 PM hello, IF- al lot of people know it was a scam-so my simple question ,why the hell was this thread 2 or 3 weeks open and he was be able to ripp of so many people? why he was be able to moderate his thread and delete what he want - to prevent that some call him a scam in this thread? i dont cry because of the 1.1 btc.... its bad and hard and i learned from it -but no one stops him and his thread instead of knowing ,that it is a scam? Quote Warning: Moderators do not remove likely scams. You must use your own brain: caveat emptor. Watch out for Ponzi schemes. Do not invest more than you can afford to lose. Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: iglasses on February 15, 2014, 11:16:14 PM I got taken in this one too...same reason....I see previous buys that look like they went well...see senior members involved....NO threads saying hey this guy is a thief...
Fuck my fucking life. another 1.1 btc gone forever. and I'm getting tired of hearing 'use your own brain'...its quite obvious that this entire website is little more than a front for these thieves. This place is a haven for crooks who get protection FROM the site. What is the IP Address(s) of this POS? bitcointalk won't tell us! The very idea of these 'self moderated' threads are conducive to these scams. The fucking site is AT BEST allowing these people to rip us off...at worst they are involved and profiting from it. I'm fucking sick of this shit. And then the site MOVES the topic into scam accusations because as we all know what's REALLY IMPORTANT is to not have off topic shit in the Groupbuy section How about NOT moving ANOTHER fucking thread about ANOTHER fucking thief that YOU are protecting assholes.... I wonder how long it will take before this gets deleted??? Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: blackheart13 on February 15, 2014, 11:32:03 PM It is difficult. Being new to the forum I didn't realized that the OP could delete and edit within the post. Surprised that it doesn't stay in group buy longer when a number of people were scammed. Unfortunately I ordered 10.
Obviously posting on the trust rating a negative as soon as you are in doubt of a buy being legit is a must to save others. Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: ahmed_bodi on February 16, 2014, 12:51:59 AM I posted in this section and neg trusted him before. but my accusation fell to deaf ears. it saddens me to say i told you so. but thats how it is. :/
Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: Rawted on February 16, 2014, 12:58:26 AM I got taken in this one too...same reason....I see previous buys that look like they went well...see senior members involved....NO threads saying hey this guy is a thief... There were no senior members involved. You may have thought there were, but you didn't do your due diligence (read above- they were made up names). I appreciate the fact you are upset, every normal person would be, but this is not the way to react. You're yelling at the people who tried to help out by painting his trust red and getting the mods involved.Fuck my fucking life. another 1.1 btc gone forever. and I'm getting tired of hearing 'use your own brain'...its quite obvious that this entire website is little more than a front for these thieves. This place is a haven for crooks who get protection FROM the site. What is the IP Address(s) of this POS? bitcointalk won't tell us! The very idea of these 'self moderated' threads are conducive to these scams. The fucking site is AT BEST allowing these people to rip us off...at worst they are involved and profiting from it. I'm fucking sick of this shit. And then the site MOVES the topic into scam accusations because as we all know what's REALLY IMPORTANT is to not have off topic shit in the Groupbuy section How about NOT moving ANOTHER fucking thread about ANOTHER fucking thief that YOU are protecting assholes.... I wonder how long it will take before this gets deleted??? Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: ahmed_bodi on February 16, 2014, 01:05:05 AM the best that anyone can do is to neg trust him
Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: KWH on February 16, 2014, 01:06:46 AM I got taken in this one too...same reason....I see previous buys that look like they went well...see senior members involved....NO threads saying hey this guy is a thief... There were no senior members involved. You may have thought there were, but you didn't do your due diligence (read above- they were made up names). I appreciate the fact you are upset, every normal person would be, but this is not the way to react. You're yelling at the people who tried to help out by painting his trust red and getting the mods involved.Fuck my fucking life. another 1.1 btc gone forever. and I'm getting tired of hearing 'use your own brain'...its quite obvious that this entire website is little more than a front for these thieves. This place is a haven for crooks who get protection FROM the site. What is the IP Address(s) of this POS? bitcointalk won't tell us! The very idea of these 'self moderated' threads are conducive to these scams. The fucking site is AT BEST allowing these people to rip us off...at worst they are involved and profiting from it. I'm fucking sick of this shit. And then the site MOVES the topic into scam accusations because as we all know what's REALLY IMPORTANT is to not have off topic shit in the Groupbuy section How about NOT moving ANOTHER fucking thread about ANOTHER fucking thief that YOU are protecting assholes.... I wonder how long it will take before this gets deleted??? Funny thing: He got taken in another GB, now he has a small refund with promises of more and he's now "giving the benefit of a doubt". Curious. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=457802.20 Quote Quote from: iglasses on February 10, 2014, 10:22:41 PM I posted this in my thread but mrugala asked me to post in here as well. I have been sent back .2BTC and he wants to know how much more he owes me. I think as of right now we have to take this man at his word. I see a few other posts in this thread that look similar to mine. I posted this in my thread but mrugala asked me to post in here as well. I have been sent back .2BTC and he wants to know how much more he owes me. I think as of right now we have to take this man at his word. I see a few other posts in this thread that look similar to mine. Sickness or not, where are the funds from the group buy? If they are sitting safe, what not a full refund ASAP? If these funds were used for any other purpose, no matter the circumstances, that is FRAUD. What we are being told is that he met someone in person and he was beaten and robbed and as a result the BTC from the groupbuy was taken (that's why he is going the refund route instead of just sending the cards). He will now payback those who are entitled but he has to do it out of his own pocket and that will take several months. I agree it is a rather fantastic tale and I can't verify it or dismiss it out of hand. I did receive a small amount back and am being told the rest will follow. Right now that is all that I know. Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: Rawted on February 16, 2014, 01:22:30 AM The plot thickens!
Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: iglasses on February 16, 2014, 01:32:39 AM The plot thickens! There's no plot...I was unlucky enough to get taken twice. In the first one I got back a tiny amount of what I lost and I still have no idea why if the guy got away with it he would refund anything. I was trying to remain civil with the guy in an attempt to recover my lost money. There's nothing more to it than that. Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: Rawted on February 16, 2014, 01:48:16 AM The plot thickens! There's no plot...I was unlucky enough to get taken twice. In the first one I got back a tiny amount of what I lost and I still have no idea why if the guy got away with it he would refund anything. I was trying to remain civil with the guy in an attempt to recover my lost money. There's nothing more to it than that. Best of luck in the future, iglasses. Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: zebtw on February 16, 2014, 06:45:35 AM Doubtful, but will the mods give out his access logs and reveal his ip information?
Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: iglasses on February 16, 2014, 07:43:14 AM They can't...they are too busy with more important forum business like moving off topic threads and deleting all traces of scammers from the site.
Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: mine2slow on February 16, 2014, 03:51:35 PM If you are from the US contact the FBI with all the details of the theft $50K theft is enough to get there attention.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/cyber Other US cyber crime LE https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/ http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/ http://www.ice.gov/cyber-crimes/ http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx Feel free to add details for you're region. Follow the money here > https://blockchain.info/address/e659a2b53fec5c8864213fe9af39b7aad6c0b825 return my stolen BTC 14rBip93ePwJMp3kiFgz2WJ424p3iUSpEG Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: jamesc760 on February 16, 2014, 07:54:23 PM "They can't...they are too busy with more important forum business like moving off topic threads and deleting all traces of scammers from the site."
Another reason why they can't: They are too busy blaming regular members, "Grow and use your brains, read the TC guide, blah blah blah. Title: Re: I am having problems trying to get refund from AvalonShenzhen Post by: mine2slow on February 16, 2014, 08:02:06 PM "They can't...they are too busy with more important forum business like moving off topic threads and deleting all traces of scammers from the site." Another reason why they can't: They are too busy blaming regular members, "Grow and use your brains, read the TC guide, blah blah blah. Let the FED'S/RCMP/Whatever, do the dirty work. Members from other countries should post links to the LEO'S for that region. Waiting for a website post in Scam Accusations prolly won't cut it. TAKE ACTION! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469680.0 |
