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We will be having another vote. This is just a heads up so we don't have late arrivals.

Check: https://www.coinpayments.net/coinreq (https://www.coinpayments.net/coinreq) for full list of requested coins that will be on this vote.

Check: https://www.coinpayments.net/supported-coins (https://www.coinpayments.net/supported-coins) for full list of coins used on our system.

Please don't request a coin that is already supported by our system, or that is already on the request list.

Vote will unlock Wednesday. More info will be posted then.

Welcome to another CoinPayments (http://coinpayments.net/) vote… This time it will be a little bit different. We’ve had issues in the past with paid voting and rigging and what not. This distracts the purpose of the vote, so we have implemented a new off-forum voting system using CoinPayments (http://coinpayments.net/) to vote. Each vote will require a donation of 0.001 BTC (or LTC/DOGE equivalent) 100% of the donations are going to be donated to The Water Project (http://thewaterproject.org/). So even if the vote does go rogue, it will be for a good cause. To vote, you do not need to register, only need a wallet with funds. Depending on how many votes each coin receives will depend on how many coins we will add.

So here’s the down side… There are a few coins which we support, and have received 0 transactions since being added. So we will be replacing a few with the winners from this vote. (depending the outcome of the vote, will determine how many are replaced) Hopefully they will have more luck in use. This does not mean we are completely removing and disregarding the coins, we are keeping everything on the system, but just disabling to save resources until we expand the server to support all the coins. We don’t want to pick and choose coins, but if nobody is using them to pay merchants for products, we want to give another coin community a chance. If you have coins on our online wallet of a coin which we will be replacing, we will send you the balance to an address. (please check your account and email us to send out your funds)

Along with the new coins, we have instated a few guideline rules we will go by. When a new coin is added, it will be put on a so called “trial” and under watch for the first 2 or 3 months of it being on CoinPayments (http://coinpayments.net/)… If it receives 0 transactions, we we will have to consider it on a list to be deactivated and let another coin have a chance in the next vote. Again we do not want to stress the idea that we are not picking and choosing any coins over each other, this is strictly a decision based on the facts from our system.

I'm ready to vote :)

Me too want to vote for TEA!

Looking forward to vote.

Happy to see iXcoin too. Please vote for IXC.

Looking forward to vote.

I would love to see IXCoin on it.

iXcoin please.

I'm sure this would be beneficial to you too, as there's a lot of stores I can convince to implement it.

UTC !

UTC Ultracoin  8)

UTC seems OK for me

Ixcoin please

Info Updated. Please Read 2nd Post.

The difference is who is getting paid. Before vote manipulators were paying people to vote for their coin, this time it will be a charity being paid and it will cost any vote manipulators a lot more per vote to offset the donation.

Just look at previous votes, it got way out of hand...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=397540.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=360706.0

Voted. Come on, Maxcoin.

Any place we can monitor vote totals, or is it hush-hush until it's over?

Once you vote, it will give you a link.

You can also view the results at https://www.coinpayments.net/vote-results
The first votes are coming in now.


After you vote reply to your payment confirmation email with an address and we'll send you a refund of the extra.

You can also use LTC and DOGE. If you have that.

Icoiners are voting and not sending btc. This doesn't seem very fair.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=407866.1400

There is no way to enter a vote without the donation, if the vote count went up after he clicked through the form it's because someone else's vote was counted in the meantime.

Good to know.

We are talking about the same 0.001BTC, as in 60 cents (USD), right? lol

When will this vote end?

Wednesday, February 26 at 11:59:59PM EST (GMT -0500).

One more day left for voting!

Thanks to all who participated!

20 minutes to go. :)

It's actually 11:59:59PM (or 23:59:59 for people using the 24 hour clock), so ~12 hours left.

And.... times up  ;)

A few votes are already in progress so a few more will trickle in but no new votes will be accepted. Now begins the big task of going through the votes and removing fraudulent votes, (of which there are a lot, as seems to be usual now).

Once the last votes have completed or timed out we'll post the final totals of BTC, LTC, and DOGE in this thread and convert the LTC and DOGE to BTC. Originally we were only going to convert the Dogecoin but The Water Project asked us to convert the LTC too.)

The final vote results will be posted by 12:00pm EST (GMT -0500).

After looking at the way the vote counts were going it was pretty clear Klondike and Pandacoin used a bot over the last 24 hours, we were worried about diamond coin being taken out by them. It's also clear iOcoin and iXcoin probably have the same dev team, there votes would jump over 20 in a heartbeat and at the same times. I initially thought iCoin was part of the iOcoin and iXcoin but it looks like they were using the ANN,twitter and facebook to advertise this, so they also might have a lot of REAL votes.  Maxcoin who knows, I am sure smartcoin had REAL votes too.

The problem you guys will face is that if you remove the bot votes from iOcoin, iXCoin,Panda and Klondike there won't be much for charity.

The donations for the disqualified votes will still be going to the The Water Project, even if they don't count towards the coins.

In retrospect, don't you think you kind of limited the amount that could have been donated for this cause by limiting everyone to one vote each?

While it is good for the charity we also need accurate numbers. Whoever has the biggest wallet to spend on votes doesn't tell us anything about how many people would actually like to shop at stores using X coin :)

True enough I guess, how will you all be determining which votes were fraudulent?  IP addresses?

My guess for the true winning list.

1. Diamond
2. iCoin
3. Maxcoin
4. Smartcoin
5. Vertcoin

Getting out popcorn.

Checking for duplicate IP addresses, obviously fake/bounced emails, checking against the StopForumSpam and HTTP:BL lists (automatic disqualify if on those lists since they are mostly botnets and spambots), if it's a Tor node (they won't be disqualified just for being on Tor but will bring extra scrutiny to see if they are part of a larger pattern), and good old fashioned human looking for patterns in the times and emails. One of the most popular during this vote was reallookingname[somerandomcharacters]@outlook.com using Tor IPs, 85+ of those.

There was a huge push from the pandacoin community on reddit and IRC in the last 24 hours. I think you'll find those votes are legitimate.

PND did not use a bot. It was all legitimate on our end. Having a following on two popular websites helps greatly in the acquisition of votes. Proof will be inbound once i gather the threads

I really hope you guys check the subreddits out to see who actually has a community.
PND definitely has a community, I can't say the same for diamond, klondike
Not only that, PND is extremely active on 4chan.
Please consider the follwoing:

PND (428 subscribed very active): http://www.reddit.com/r/therealpandacoin
Klondike (77 subscribed, barely any activity): http://www.reddit.com/r/klondikecoin  
I0coin: none
iXcoin 17 subscriers: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ixcoin
Diamondcoin: None

Now tell me, honestly
Who has the most legitimate votes?

Botting only disqualifies the bot votes, it won't disqualify the coin itself. We thought of that attack vector too.

While I'm not sure how many duplicate votes may have been entered, I can assure you that no bots were used for PND.

Sorry for the wait, here is the bundle of threads.

https://mega.co.nz/#!F9AEjY7Q!UGSBB1xP9Wa9qnePoMXa9oOMv7Qx2vdPF8z6eiFRck4

Ok, we have our donation totals:

BTC: 0.59900000
LTC: 21.75029500
DOGE: 129059.65920300

DOGE sold at Cryptsy @ 0.00000205 = 0.26457025 BTC.
LTC sold at Cryptsy @ 0.02506002 = 0.54496603 BTC.

Grand total: 1.40853628 BTC! It is in address https://blockchain.info/address/1E2KLoBR3cXv1d9WdAwDeTxGM2fJN4MsXM until we send it to the Water Project later today or tomorrow (to work out details with them to verify the donation for everyone.)

For the permanent public record I have posted this information at pastebin too as guest so it can't be deleted/edited: http://pastebin.com/uFySeAs8

As a member of the PND community... We're not scammers or bots. We just really aggressively push our coin. ;^)

That's awesome! Such a shame that it's at about 75% of it's normal value.

It is a nice haul. 790 USD.

Another thing, the PND/BTC market on Swisscex (https://www.swisscex.com/market) holds first place for the largest volume of trades.

Well just to be clear, the coins that we will be adding will be added to a trial basis, due to previous coins having 0 transactions...
If whatever coin gets added and nobody purchases anything with it for a few months... Kinda pointless for them to even vote. lol

Also a note: A coin being added to our system most likely will not effect the price of the coin on a market, we are not an exchange.

But yea, way to go with raising the 1.40 btc!

Sounds great!
I can assure you PND will be booming with transactions. 

Hi All,

Since the voting has been completed, the iCoin team will be donating 13 000 iCoin towards the charity as a goodwill gesture, even if some of our users voted more then
once which can be understandable with the passionate community we have. Like Pandacoin we were really behind the coinpayments vote as this is really important for us,
not because of the merchants that already exist on coinpayments but for new merchants that want to accept iCoin.

So even before the final winners are announced we are giving the iCoin regardless if we make it this round or not.

It's really good to see Coinpayments is backed by a honest and legitimate team.

This.  The proof shall set us free.


Great work raising money for a great cause, everyone!

To be frank I'm a bit surprised you are now saying what you regard as fair and what cheating and not before the actual voting. Maybe I've never taken part in such voting before, but in my view such things as rules should be clearly outlined (in detail) before voting commence.

Someone above had said Diamond Coin has no community.. it's laughable,  on the contrary I've never heard about PandaCoin (apart from people complaining it to be a scam) or the other coins who got hundreds of votes.

As per my conversation with 'Prodigy' we aggregated some of our votes. Those members of the community who did not have any bitcoins but fully supported the idea were subsidised by more wealthy community donors. We saw this as legitimate behaviour with no ill intentions. It would be a shame to learn that you've changed your mind or that we were not fully aware of all the rules.

In any case (for the future), please be more specific on what exactly is not permitted, because what's not permitted is usually allowed.

It's been exciting to follow the stats for the last few days; congratulations to anyone who won the race :)

The panda coin scam you are speaking about is PANDA coin.. ours is PND. That is a common misconception.

I voted.. sent my 500 doge. I'm unsure why people are saying we used bots. We used Twitter and FB to advertise to thousands of people.. our twitter has over 8000 followers and FB has hundreds of likes. Regardless I hope the money goes to charity as that's really what this is all about.

Many talking trash about Klondike and that we have no community. So much jalousy

Big lol.  Im sure there are a few folks who voted more then once. But as far as I know we did not use bots. We did use Twitter, IRC and in our forum to ask ppl to vote for us.

KDC members have started price contests to motivate people to vote for KDC. The Dev team did not ask these members to set such thing up, but ofc we encourage all (legal) initiatives that come from the community.

And I dont think the amount of ppl on reddit says anything about a community. Im very active for KDC here, but I do not have a reddit account. Lol.

P.s. The KDC dev team DID NOT encourage ANYONE to abuse the voting system. In fact, we told ppl to just vote ONCE. Please bare this in mind.

Diamand, iCoin were cheating!!! As most likely for ALL coins they were people that broke the rule, but you cannot judge a coin, a full community because there were maybe a few cheaters. I'm sure that coinpayment are professional enough and they will find all the cheater votes and remove them as it should be, but still i believe that the Top 5 will be the same.

Maxcoin also had a huge pump, 10 votes in less then 10 mins, so... as i said, all coins has cheated, i'm sure, as there are ALWAYS people that don't follow the rules. Look at Grumpy on mintpal, but those votes were corrected by the mintpal people, and coinpayment will do the same.

Reddit is not a great way of working out the popularity of a coin, or at least KDC, we haven't yet pushed our subreddit or are active in it. Take a look at our forum thread, we have one of the biggest threads in this subforum. We certainly have not botted the vote, the community have taken it upon themselves to organise the promotion of voting, us devs have had little to no involvement.

Im sure CoinPayments.net will do a good audit of all the votes. And that KDC has gotten enough legimate votes to make it (at least, I hope so)

We understand (and noticed in our forum) that some KDC lovers did vote more then once, because of their enthousiasm for KDC. We realize this could be harmfull for us. On the other hand, I have faith that KDC has gotten enough "legal'" votes to show there IS an active community who would like to see KDC added to CoinPayments.net.

Reddit.com is crap!!!! If you need to compare the popularity of a coin based on Reddit then you need to stop taking drugs and stop drinking. The number of miners for a coin can be used as how to define how big your community is, how many post on the forum (by different users ofcourse), how many time a coin is said on twitter, but please don't talk about shit Reddit.com :D

Because Reddit has nothing to do with Dogecoin' success.

Keep telling yourself that.

I can also say this is true as member of PND community, just look at tweets, IRC, Reddit, this blog as we have really actively rallied our coin community for votes.

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popshot, you are right that we didn't post enough on the rules; we were building on our previous votes and the things we said then but not everyone was there for those. Basically we are working on the rule of this: 1 vote per person and they did the donation themselves; nobody else paid for them and they are not rewarded/reimbursed for their vote. Or in other words if someone has to try to justify how something wasn't cheating, it's probably cheating.

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You're a little late for the vote UTC supporters, maybe next time :)

Ok, we have our winners:

PandaCoin 79 votes
KlondikeCoin 64
iCoin 46
Maxcoin 39
Diamond 19

And a wildcard pick from us:

MintCoin

You can see the full adjusted results at https://www.coinpayments.net/vote

We'll try to have all the new coins online within 24-48 hours barring any issues. We may add a couple of the runner ups in the next week or two, but no promises on that.

This is awesome news! I had no idea it was going to be that high, fantastic. Also, I've just confirmed that if we obtain partnership with coinpayments, we also already have a current merchant on coinpayments that would like to accept iCoin upon us joining, in addition to 2 other merchants that would be getting a new account through coinpayments. All good news!

Fair enough, just wanted to leave my feedback.

However, after seeing the results I'm pretty sure you got carried away in your assessment on what was good and what was bad. A lot of our members will be upset, that's for sure.
It's a hard lesson for us. Next time, we won't be assuming what is allowed, but at the same time I urge you to refine your rules to avoid disappointment in the future.

Regards

Yes, next time we'll post a rule list and make it more clear.

Edit: We have 11.5k more iCoins for sale at CoinRush if anyone is interested in buying. Depending on how long it takes we may have to send the iCoin BTC to The Water Project at a later date, I don't want to delay the vote donation.

Awesome. I'd vote for Mintcoin  :)

Awesome news. Can't wait to spend my PND on some electronics.
I guess that Reddit "shit" did help a little bit in the end, didn't it?

 ;)

Congrats to all the coins that got in, I know for iCoin it's going to open a lot of doors :)

This is great news, Thank you.

when will next vote be?

Usually around once a month, but TBD.

The BTC has been sent to The Water Project and they will shortly be tweeting a confirmation. Here is the Bitcoin transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx/eb72db7099524eb7d6c1801e99a3f723dba2a999c29d0bceb264cddb916be88b

It will also apply towards the BitGive Project's campaign at https://thewaterproject.org/community/profile/bitgive-foundation

Once the iCoin has been exchanged we will send it along as well (big thanks to the iCoin team for that!)

The 13,000 ICN has been exchanged for Bitcoin now raising an extra 0.46297029 BTC for the The Water Project :)

It has been sent to them with Bitcoin transaction ID 8d07b2dc21d5768225efb83ea9449b926813e89bbd7d3c0fd148269061a2d0a5 https://blockchain.info/tx/8d07b2dc21d5768225efb83ea9449b926813e89bbd7d3c0fd148269061a2d0a5

Tweet from The Water Project: https://twitter.com/TheWaterProject/status/439210951418839041
And you can see both the CoinPayments and iCoin donations on this page https://thewaterproject.org/community/profile/bitgive-foundation

What ranking did iXcoin get?  It's not on the results chart.

IXC was 7th with 11 votes (and that was being generous, several of those were definitely botted as well).

Edit: Here are the stats for IXC: 245 votes removed due to duplicate IPs (leaving one vote per IP intact unless they were part of an obvious bot pattern, mostly Tor here), 8 fake/bounced emails, and 24 using Tor that matched the pattern the duplicate IPs were using.

With the recent airdrop of Auroracoin, I think it's IMPERATIVE to implement that one first.

Signed.

We need DOPECOIN (http://www.dopecoin.com)!!! why isn't it up there!!  ???

Old vote. lol

Lol when is the new vote : p

ONCE AGAIN, and OUTSIDE OF ANY VOTE
Auroracoin is one of the MOST TRADED coins out there.
Let your merchants make use of that!

Well trading, and spending it two different things. I believe the trading part is due to the air drop. People cashing in their coins for a few Iceland bucks. lol. Just my opinion.

Well, trading without an outlet for the actual coin is outright detrimental to a coins' economy. If you cannot SPEND your AUR, you will only sell it for BTC, another coin wasted.
As a merchant, I want to give my customers the ability to pay how they want, provided I have the tools for that.

Understandable. We will be having a vote next few days anyways, so watch out for that. We'll keep links posted. :-)

I dunno how much trouble it is to incorporate a new coin, but it should also be in YOUR best interest to be on top of things and see to it that, say, the top 10 traded coins (not to mention market cap) measured in volume by BTC should be readily available for your / our customers - totally outside of any votes and such.

Understandable, again. But we've had issues with coins being added, and absolutely no transactions happen, ever. You wanting to accept a coin is cool, but having the people to actually spend it, another thing... Any who... New vote: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563787.new

Good luck to everyone. (locking this tread to avoid vote thread confusing)