CoinPayments Coin Vote

[panzerjager]

After looking at the way the vote counts were going it was pretty clear Klondike and Pandacoin used a bot over the last 24 hours, we were worried about diamond coin being taken out by them.

PND did not use a bot. It was all legitimate on our end. Having a following on two popular websites helps greatly in the acquisition of votes. Proof will be inbound once i gather the threads

[robzordoge]

I really hope you guys check the subreddits out to see who actually has a community.
PND definitely has a community, I can't say the same for diamond, klondike
Not only that, PND is extremely active on 4chan.
Please consider the follwoing:

PND (428 subscribed very active): http://www.reddit.com/r/therealpandacoin
Klondike (77 subscribed, barely any activity): http://www.reddit.com/r/klondikecoin  
I0coin: none
iXcoin 17 subscriers: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ixcoin
Diamondcoin: None

Now tell me, honestly
Who has the most legitimate votes?

[MrData]

I don't really understand this whole bot detection thing between you and Mintpal.

Couldn't I just bot the top 10 coins to get them disqualified so my coin gets in? Everyone is probably botting eachother.  

Botting only disqualifies the bot votes, it won't disqualify the coin itself. We thought of that attack vector too.

[Juxtapose913]

While I'm not sure how many duplicate votes may have been entered, I can assure you that no bots were used for PND.

[panzerjager]

Sorry for the wait, here is the bundle of threads.

https://mega.co.nz/#!F9AEjY7Q!UGSBB1xP9Wa9qnePoMXa9oOMv7Qx2vdPF8z6eiFRck4

[MrData]

Ok, we have our donation totals:

BTC: 0.59900000
LTC: 21.75029500
DOGE: 129059.65920300

DOGE sold at Cryptsy @ 0.00000205 = 0.26457025 BTC.
LTC sold at Cryptsy @ 0.02506002 = 0.54496603 BTC.

Grand total: 1.40853628 BTC! It is in address https://blockchain.info/address/1E2KLoBR3cXv1d9WdAwDeTxGM2fJN4MsXM until we send it to the Water Project later today or tomorrow (to work out details with them to verify the donation for everyone.)

For the permanent public record I have posted this information at pastebin too as guest so it can't be deleted/edited: http://pastebin.com/uFySeAs8

[alexskc]

As a member of the PND community... We're not scammers or bots. We just really aggressively push our coin. ;^)

[Juxtapose913]

Ok, we have our donation totals:

BTC: 0.59900000
LTC: 21.75029500
DOGE: 129059.65920300

DOGE sold at Cryptsy @ 0.00000205 = 0.26457025 BTC.
LTC sold at Cryptsy @ 0.02506002 = 0.54496603 BTC.

Grand total: 1.40853628 BTC! It is in address https://blockchain.info/address/1E2KLoBR3cXv1d9WdAwDeTxGM2fJN4MsXM until we send it to the Water Project later today or tomorrow (to work out details with them to verify the donation for everyone.)

For the permanent public record I have posted this information at pastebin too as guest so it can't be deleted/edited: http://pastebin.com/uFySeAs8

That's awesome! Such a shame that it's at about 75% of it's normal value.

[panzerjager]

Ok, we have our donation totals:

BTC: 0.59900000
LTC: 21.75029500
DOGE: 129059.65920300

DOGE sold at Cryptsy @ 0.00000205 = 0.26457025 BTC.
LTC sold at Cryptsy @ 0.02506002 = 0.54496603 BTC.

Grand total: 1.40853628 BTC! It is in address https://blockchain.info/address/1E2KLoBR3cXv1d9WdAwDeTxGM2fJN4MsXM until we send it to the Water Project later today or tomorrow (to work out details with them to verify the donation for everyone.)

For the permanent public record I have posted this information at pastebin too as guest so it can't be deleted/edited: http://pastebin.com/uFySeAs8

It is a nice haul. 790 USD.

Another thing, the PND/BTC market on Swisscex (https://www.swisscex.com/market) holds first place for the largest volume of trades.

[pr0d1gy]

Well just to be clear, the coins that we will be adding will be added to a trial basis, due to previous coins having 0 transactions...
If whatever coin gets added and nobody purchases anything with it for a few months... Kinda pointless for them to even vote. lol

Also a note: A coin being added to our system most likely will not effect the price of the coin on a market, we are not an exchange.

But yea, way to go with raising the 1.40 btc!

[robzordoge]

Well just to be clear, the coins that we will be adding will be added to a trial basis, due to previous coins having 0 transactions...
If whatever coin gets added and nobody purchases anything with it for a few months... Kinda pointless for them to even vote. lol

Also a note: A coin being added to our system most likely will not effect the price of the coin on a market, we are not an exchange.

But yea, way to go with raising the 1.40 btc!

Sounds great!
I can assure you PND will be booming with transactions. 

[TeamICoiN]

Hi All,

Since the voting has been completed, the iCoin team will be donating 13 000 iCoin towards the charity as a goodwill gesture, even if some of our users voted more then
once which can be understandable with the passionate community we have. Like Pandacoin we were really behind the coinpayments vote as this is really important for us,
not because of the merchants that already exist on coinpayments but for new merchants that want to accept iCoin.

So even before the final winners are announced we are giving the iCoin regardless if we make it this round or not.

It's really good to see Coinpayments is backed by a honest and legitimate team.

[flipstyle]

I really hope you guys check the subreddits out to see who actually has a community.
PND definitely has a community, I can't say the same for diamond, klondike
Not only that, PND is extremely active on 4chan.
Please consider the follwoing:

PND (428 subscribed very active): http://www.reddit.com/r/therealpandacoin
Klondike (77 subscribed, barely any activity): http://www.reddit.com/r/klondikecoin  
I0coin: none
iXcoin 17 subscriers: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ixcoin
Diamondcoin: None

Now tell me, honestly
Who has the most legitimate votes?

This.  The proof shall set us free.


Great work raising money for a great cause, everyone!

[popshot]

To be frank I'm a bit surprised you are now saying what you regard as fair and what cheating and not before the actual voting. Maybe I've never taken part in such voting before, but in my view such things as rules should be clearly outlined (in detail) before voting commence.

Someone above had said Diamond Coin has no community.. it's laughable,  on the contrary I've never heard about PandaCoin (apart from people complaining it to be a scam) or the other coins who got hundreds of votes.

As per my conversation with 'Prodigy' we aggregated some of our votes. Those members of the community who did not have any bitcoins but fully supported the idea were subsidised by more wealthy community donors. We saw this as legitimate behaviour with no ill intentions. It would be a shame to learn that you've changed your mind or that we were not fully aware of all the rules.

In any case (for the future), please be more specific on what exactly is not permitted, because what's not permitted is usually allowed.

It's been exciting to follow the stats for the last few days; congratulations to anyone who won the race

[n0la]

To be frank I'm a bit surprised you are now saying what you regard as fair and what cheating and not before the actual voting. Maybe I've never taken part in such voting before, but in my view such things as rules should be clearly outlined (in detail) before voting commence.

Someone above had said Diamond Coin has no community.. it's laughable,  on the contrary I've never heard about PandaCoin (apart from people complaining it to be a scam) or the other coins who got hundreds of votes.

As per my conversation with 'Prodigy' we aggregated some of our votes. Those members of the community who did not have any bitcoins but fully supported the idea were subsidised by more wealthy community donors. We saw this as legitimate behaviour with no ill intentions. It would be a shame to learn that you've changed your mind or that we were not fully aware of all the rules.

In any case (for the future), please be more specific on what exactly is not permitted, because what's not permitted is usually allowed.

It's been exciting to follow the stats for the last few days; congratulations to anyone who won the race

The panda coin scam you are speaking about is PANDA coin.. ours is PND. That is a common misconception.

I voted.. sent my 500 doge. I'm unsure why people are saying we used bots. We used Twitter and FB to advertise to thousands of people.. our twitter has over 8000 followers and FB has hundreds of likes. Regardless I hope the money goes to charity as that's really what this is all about.

[MysticDOGE]

Many talking trash about Klondike and that we have no community. So much jalousy

Big lol.  Im sure there are a few folks who voted more then once. But as far as I know we did not use bots. We did use Twitter, IRC and in our forum to ask ppl to vote for us.

KDC members have started price contests to motivate people to vote for KDC. The Dev team did not ask these members to set such thing up, but ofc we encourage all (legal) initiatives that come from the community.

And I dont think the amount of ppl on reddit says anything about a community. Im very active for KDC here, but I do not have a reddit account. Lol.

P.s. The KDC dev team DID NOT encourage ANYONE to abuse the voting system. In fact, we told ppl to just vote ONCE. Please bare this in mind.

[placebo]

My guess for the true winning list.

1. Diamond
2. iCoin
3. Maxcoin
4. Smartcoin
5. Vertcoin

Getting out popcorn.

Diamand, iCoin were cheating!!! As most likely for ALL coins they were people that broke the rule, but you cannot judge a coin, a full community because there were maybe a few cheaters. I'm sure that coinpayment are professional enough and they will find all the cheater votes and remove them as it should be, but still i believe that the Top 5 will be the same.

Maxcoin also had a huge pump, 10 votes in less then 10 mins, so... as i said, all coins has cheated, i'm sure, as there are ALWAYS people that don't follow the rules. Look at Grumpy on mintpal, but those votes were corrected by the mintpal people, and coinpayment will do the same.

[KlondikeCoin]

I really hope you guys check the subreddits out to see who actually has a community.
PND definitely has a community, I can't say the same for diamond, klondike
Not only that, PND is extremely active on 4chan.
Please consider the follwoing:

PND (428 subscribed very active): http://www.reddit.com/r/therealpandacoin
Klondike (77 subscribed, barely any activity): http://www.reddit.com/r/klondikecoin  
I0coin: none
iXcoin 17 subscriers: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ixcoin
Diamondcoin: None

Now tell me, honestly
Who has the most legitimate votes?

Reddit is not a great way of working out the popularity of a coin, or at least KDC, we haven't yet pushed our subreddit or are active in it. Take a look at our forum thread, we have one of the biggest threads in this subforum. We certainly have not botted the vote, the community have taken it upon themselves to organise the promotion of voting, us devs have had little to no involvement.

[MysticDOGE]

My guess for the true winning list.

1. Diamond
2. iCoin
3. Maxcoin
4. Smartcoin
5. Vertcoin

Getting out popcorn.

Diamand, iCoin were cheating!!! As most likely for ALL coins they were people that broke the rule, but you cannot judge a coin, a full community because there were maybe a few cheaters. I'm sure that coinpayment are professional enough and they will find all the cheater votes and remove them as it should be, but still i believe that the Top 5 will be the same.

Maxcoin also had a huge pump, 10 votes in less then 10 mins, so... as i said, all coins has cheated, i'm sure, as there are ALWAYS people that don't follow the rules. Look at Grumpy on mintpal, but those votes were corrected by the mintpal people, and coinpayment will do the same.

Im sure CoinPayments.net will do a good audit of all the votes. And that KDC has gotten enough legimate votes to make it (at least, I hope so)

We understand (and noticed in our forum) that some KDC lovers did vote more then once, because of their enthousiasm for KDC. We realize this could be harmfull for us. On the other hand, I have faith that KDC has gotten enough "legal'" votes to show there IS an active community who would like to see KDC added to CoinPayments.net.

[placebo]

I really hope you guys check the subreddits out to see who actually has a community.
PND definitely has a community, I can't say the same for diamond, klondike
Not only that, PND is extremely active on 4chan.
Please consider the follwoing:

PND (428 subscribed very active): http://www.reddit.com/r/therealpandacoin
Klondike (77 subscribed, barely any activity): http://www.reddit.com/r/klondikecoin  
I0coin: none
iXcoin 17 subscriers: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ixcoin
Diamondcoin: None

Now tell me, honestly
Who has the most legitimate votes?

Reddit is not a great way of working out the popularity of a coin, or at least KDC, we haven't yet pushed our subreddit or are active in it. Take a look at our forum thread, we have one of the biggest threads in this subforum. We certainly have not botted the vote, the community have taken it upon themselves to organise the promotion of voting, us devs have had little to no involvement.

Reddit.com is crap!!!! If you need to compare the popularity of a coin based on Reddit then you need to stop taking drugs and stop drinking. The number of miners for a coin can be used as how to define how big your community is, how many post on the forum (by different users ofcourse), how many time a coin is said on twitter, but please don't talk about shit Reddit.com