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Bitcoin => Hardware => Topic started by: Xer0 on February 18, 2014, 03:59:01 PM



Title: silence before the storm?
Post by: Xer0 on February 18, 2014, 03:59:01 PM
whats up with the miner sales?

Bitmain sold out, next shipping 28th, but old price and not opened orders
Avalon Clones not beeing sold anymore, except by Scammers

only the 5-chip Gridseeds are instock or near delivery now


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: dogie on February 18, 2014, 04:06:59 PM
whats up with the miner sales?

Bitmain sold out, next shipping 28th, but old price and not opened orders
Avalon Clones not beeing sold anymore, except by Scammers

only the 5-chip Gridseeds are instock or near delivery now
You're mistaken. Antminers are ONLY sold as in hand hardware, and are made in batches. They are the premier hardware at the moment so demand has been astronomical.
The last batch of Avalon2 chips were sold, so the only clones are the current ones in the pipeline.

Plenty of other companies are delivering/about to.


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: Xer0 on February 18, 2014, 04:15:41 PM
Plenty of other companies are delivering/about to.
yes but those were preorders

just 1-2 weeks ago you could always buy near-instock Ants or Avalons


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: dogie on February 18, 2014, 04:19:59 PM
Plenty of other companies are delivering/about to.
yes but those were preorders

just 1-2 weeks ago you could always buy near-instock Ants or Avalons
Go back 3 months ago and you couldn't.
Go back 9 months ago and the ONLY way to buy hardware was from another member.

Consider yourself spoilt that you only have to wait <2 weeks for huge amounts of hash rate.


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: Biffa on February 18, 2014, 04:26:27 PM
Bitmain sold out, next shipping 28th, but old price and not opened orders

I think that actually they already sold out the 28th batch.


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: Xer0 on February 18, 2014, 04:46:53 PM
Bitmain sold out, next shipping 28th, but old price and not opened orders
I think that actually they already sold out the 28th batch.
they reopened sales on 14th with shipping for 18th and sold out quick
found no info that 28th batch was ever opened. price for +2 weeks is ridicolous tough


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: Biffa on February 18, 2014, 04:59:21 PM
Bitmain sold out, next shipping 28th, but old price and not opened orders
I think that actually they already sold out the 28th batch.
they reopened sales on 14th with shipping for 18th and sold out quick
found no info that 28th batch was ever opened. price for +2 weeks is ridicolous tough

There was a sale on the 14th - Sold out in 1 second (about 15 - 20 machines)
Then one on the 15th - Sold out in about 5 seconds (about 15-20 machines)
Then one on the 16th (Shipping on the 28th) - Sold out in 12 hours. (500+ machines)


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: Xer0 on February 18, 2014, 05:14:16 PM
Then one on the 16th (Shipping on the 28th) - Sold out in 12 hours. (500+ machines)
are these confirmed numbers or an estimate?
500+ units sounds like they cleared out old stock + hosted units and plan something new

but 200GH at 1,45BTC received in march is a crazy game, cant believe anyone bought this


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: dropt on February 18, 2014, 05:15:48 PM
Then one on the 16th (Shipping on the 28th) - Sold out in 12 hours. (500+ machines)
are these confirmed numbers or an estimate?
500+ units sounds like they cleared out old stock + hosted units and plan something new

but 200GH at 1,45BTC received in march is a crazy game, cant believe anyone bought this

AFAIK "hosted" units are owned by customers, so it wouldn't make sense that they were re-sold to other people.

I agree with your sentiments regarding the 1.45BTC for current stock though.


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: ClessMeister on February 18, 2014, 05:21:03 PM
Then one on the 16th (Shipping on the 28th) - Sold out in 12 hours. (500+ machines)
are these confirmed numbers or an estimate?
500+ units sounds like they cleared out old stock + hosted units and plan something new

but 200GH at 1,45BTC received in march is a crazy game, cant believe anyone bought this

Why is that so? It makes only a lousy 0,00725BTC / GHs so it's not that expensive. And mining might not be the only purpose to buy these babies. ^^

Cheers. 8)


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: Xer0 on February 18, 2014, 06:52:39 PM
AFAIK "hosted" units are owned by customers, so it wouldn't make sense that they were re-sold to other people.
the hosting plans were all "xy BTC for 3 months" as i remember.
so i think of miners whose users dont extending their contracts

Why is that so? It makes only a lousy 0,00725BTC
because, even at eBay you wont get more than 1200€ for them. NOW
and you usualy get >30% profit by selling there otherwise its a bad deal
these units make their 1.5 BTC back if started today, but less than 1 delivered if in march


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: ineedit on February 18, 2014, 06:57:06 PM
Hey, just think about the Difficulty Xer0, no new miners means no big Difficulty rise  :)


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: Xer0 on February 18, 2014, 07:00:50 PM
Hey, just think about the Difficulty Xer0, no new miners means no big Difficulty rise  :)
you cant order new big miners now, but the preordered ones will flood the network soon :|

Hashfast, Cointerra, Bitmine, Black Arrow, AMT all targeted Feb-Mar ... boom!


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: ineedit on February 18, 2014, 07:02:58 PM
Hey, just think about the Difficulty Xer0, no new miners means no big Difficulty rise  :)
you cant order new big miners now, but the preordered ones will flood the network soon :|

Hashfast, Cointerra, Bitmine, Black Arrow, AMT all targeted Feb-Mar ... boom!

Now you are just trying to ruin my day aren't you  ;D


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: Xer0 on February 18, 2014, 09:42:20 PM
Hey, just think about the Difficulty Xer0, no new miners means no big Difficulty rise  :)
you cant order new big miners now, but the preordered ones will flood the network soon :|

Hashfast, Cointerra, Bitmine, Black Arrow, AMT all targeted Feb-Mar ... boom!

Now you are just trying to ruin my day aren't you  ;D
dont take it too serious, im known for beeing pessimistic ;D


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: Unacceptable on February 18, 2014, 09:43:58 PM
Hey, just think about the Difficulty Xer0, no new miners means no big Difficulty rise  :)
you cant order new big miners now, but the preordered ones will flood the network soon :|

Hashfast, Cointerra, Bitmine, Black Arrow, AMT all targeted Feb-Mar ... boom!

No BlackArrow till May,one down....next!!!!!!!!!!!   :D


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: bitterdog on February 18, 2014, 09:50:29 PM
Cointerra is about to ship a ASSLOAD of 1-2TH miners and KABOOM goes difficulty


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: frankenmint on February 18, 2014, 11:30:08 PM
Hey, just think about the Difficulty Xer0, no new miners means no big Difficulty rise  :)
you cant order new big miners now, but the preordered ones will flood the network soon :|

Hashfast, Cointerra, Bitmine, Black Arrow, AMT all targeted Feb-Mar ... boom!

This style of quote will remain to be repeated ad infinitum nauseum :P 

Remember October and how it was totally stupid to be preordering a KNC jupiter lol.


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: rograz on February 18, 2014, 11:40:43 PM
Cointerra is about to ship a ASSLOAD of 1-2TH miners and KABOOM goes difficulty

Selling =/= Delivering


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: aztecminer on February 19, 2014, 12:45:59 AM
whats up with the miner sales?

Bitmain sold out, next shipping 28th, but old price and not opened orders
Avalon Clones not beeing sold anymore, except by Scammers

only the 5-chip Gridseeds are instock or near delivery now
You're mistaken. Antminers are ONLY sold as in hand hardware, and are made in batches. They are the premier hardware at the moment so demand has been astronomical.
The last batch of Avalon2 chips were sold, so the only clones are the current ones in the pipeline.

Plenty of other companies are delivering/about to.



i think i saving my money for antminer version 2 antdrone .


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: joeventura on February 19, 2014, 12:51:47 AM
Silence before the storm is what the wife calls it when I have Mexican food for dinner


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: bitterdog on February 19, 2014, 04:28:25 AM
Cointerra is about to ship a ASSLOAD of 1-2TH miners and KABOOM goes difficulty

Selling =/= Delivering


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: bclcjunkie on February 19, 2014, 04:58:15 AM
simple economics.. price of one antminer dropped to usd 900 due to lower btc prices. add electricity+manpower+raw materials+shipping and you're staring at thin margins. hence imho they're trying to compensate that by mining first and then selling.. when bitmain was selling them agressively about a month ago one antminer was about 1000+ usd so there was still a room for better margin...


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: rograz on February 19, 2014, 07:22:53 AM
Cointerra is about to ship a ASSLOAD of 1-2TH miners and KABOOM goes difficulty

Selling =/= Delivering

When they have delivered their entire backlog and start selling from stock they can have a real impact on the network, whatever they are shipping now was already anticipated and counted into future estimates. 


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: hostmaster on February 19, 2014, 07:23:55 AM
Silence before the storm is what the wife calls it when I have Mexican food for dinner
LOL  ;D


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: Unacceptable on February 19, 2014, 08:39:27 AM
Silence before the storm is what the wife calls it when I have Mexican food for dinner
LOL  ;D

Get some of this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   :D ;D :D

http://videosift.com/video/South-Park-Chipotle-Away


Title: Re: silence before the storm?
Post by: S4VV4S on February 19, 2014, 12:01:31 PM
Cointerra is about to ship a ASSLOAD of 1-2TH miners and KABOOM goes difficulty

Selling =/= Delivering

var selling:Boolean = true;
var delivering:UknownVariable;

if(selling){
print("Business is GOOD!");
};
if(delivering){
print("Don't worry you will get your shit!");
};
if((selling) && (!delivering)){
print("YOU ARE FUCKED ONCE AGAIN!");

};